Crime Junkie - MURDERED: Helen Betty Osborne

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

The discovery of 19-year-old Helen Betty Osborne’s body should have outraged the residents of The Pas, Manitoba. Yet, the truth of what happened to her, and who killed her, would remain an open secr...et for years. But, like all secrets, what happened that night eventually came to light – and upended over a decade of sinister silence.There is a memorial fund in Betty’s name through the National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation. The goal of the scholarship is to provide financial support to full-time post-secondary Indigenous students living in Manitoba. These students are recognized for their commitment to dismantling “the barriers of racism, sexism, violence, and indifference in society including those impacted by the Missing and Murdered Indigenous People genocide and/or Survivors of gender-based violence.”If you would like to join audiochuck in making a donation to the fund, please click here, and direct your donation to the National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation.If you have any questions, please contact The Winnipeg Foundation at 204-944-8474, email them at hbomfscholarship@wpgfdn.org.  Source materials for this episode cannot be listed here due to character limitations. For a full list of sources, please visit: crimejunkiepodcast.com/murdered-helen-betty-osborne/Did you know you can listen to this episode ad-free? Join the Fan Club! Visit crimejunkie.app/library/ to view the current membership options and policies. Don’t miss out on all things Crime Junkie!Instagram: @crimejunkiepodcast | @audiochuckTwitter: @CrimeJunkiePod | @audiochuckTikTok: @crimejunkiepodcastFacebook: /CrimeJunkiePodcast | /audiochuckllcCrime Junkie is hosted by Ashley Flowers and Brit Prawat. Instagram: @ashleyflowers | @britprawatTwitter: @Ash_Flowers | @britprawatTikTok: @ashleyflowerscrimejunkieFacebook: /AshleyFlowers.AF Text Ashley at 317-733-7485 to talk all things true crime, get behind the scenes updates, and more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, crime junkies. I'm your host, Ashley Flowers. And I'm Brett. And the story I have for you today is about how a young woman's senseless and violent murder shone a light in all the darkest parts of one small northern Manitoba community. And it put a whole town on trial. It's a story that is just as important to hear today as it was over 50 years ago when it happened. And it feels all too familiar, even in 2025. This is the story of Helen Betty Osborne. It's a cold, gray morning in November 1971, and a 14-year-old named Kenneth is fishing
Starting point is 00:01:11 with his father on Clearwater Lake in northern Manitoba. And of course, by fishing, when you're a kid, I mean he's like sitting there and sitting there. He's not moving, he's not talking, and it's for hours. He's like just hoping they might get a fish. So you can imagine, Kenneth gets kind of antsy. So he tells his dad that he's just gonna go for a walk, see if he can find any rabbit tracks in the snow
Starting point is 00:01:32 or something like that. Now, it's about 1130 in the morning, and Kenneth is next to this pump house on his way back down to the lake, when according to coverage in the Winnipeg Sun, some strange tracks in the snow catch his eye. And he's a curious kid, so he follows the tracks into the thick bush.
Starting point is 00:01:51 The snow is crunching beneath him, and that's when he comes upon the body of a woman. She's naked with only boots on her feet, and she's all bloody and badly beaten. So Kenneth immediately runs back to get his dad and the two of them jump in the car. They drive to the closest place, which is I think this airport to call police.
Starting point is 00:02:12 But as luck would have it, there's actually an RCMP officer, which we know, Royal Canadian Mounted Police. He's on site when they get there. According to Lisa Priest's 1989 book, Conspiracy of Silence, this officer doesn't have experience necessarily as a criminal investigator.
Starting point is 00:02:28 He's actually the pilot who's in charge of the RCMP's air division or whatever. Okay, so he's just at the airport because that's where he is. But he still heads down towards the lake with them. He'll take a first look at all of this. And he's also keeping in mind, I need to be careful not to do anything that would disturb a potential crime scene. Preserve things. Right. And when he gets there, it like very clearly is a crime scene.
Starting point is 00:02:49 So he has to call in backup. Now, it takes some time to get investigators all the way out to where they are. But by 1 45 in the afternoon, they have a team on site who is processing everything, gathering evidence. The victim looks to be in her late teens. She's small with kind of short, shaggy, dark hair that's kind of matted in clumps. Her skin is swollen and purple, and she is covered. I mean, chest, head, neck, face, in dozens of these tiny stab wounds. So it is clear that she suffered a vicious and brutal attack, one that went on long after she stopped fighting. And this might get kind of graphic, so content advisory,
Starting point is 00:03:30 but investigators describe kind of this halo of blood that was around her head, almost like someone had stomped on her face and, like, made it so the blood was, like, going out of the tiny stab wounds that were made. I mean, it was that bad. The word that came up so many times over and over again in Lisa's book was the word frenzy. Like this was a frenzied attack.
Starting point is 00:03:55 It looked like whoever did this was angry and frantic, vicious even. And what's interesting is they did take time to hide her clothing because several items of hers were hidden under some rocks down closer by the lake. And the person who stabbed and stomped her and the person who's hiding her clothing might not be the same person because there are two sets of footprints, one on each side of the victim's body and there's even drag marks showing that they pulled her by her arm. So there's even drag marks showing that they pulled her by her arm.
Starting point is 00:04:26 So it's not like it was her footprints and someone else's. This is someone else there, a third person. Now she didn't look like she'd been out there very long, less than a day, which is a lucky break. Because unlike in the warmer months, when folks spend time at the cabin surrounding the lake, this area is pretty much deserted in November. Like if not for Kenneth getting antsy,
Starting point is 00:04:46 if not for his dad making them wait it out in silence, if not for the fish that day refusing to bite, she may not have been found until the next spring, if at all. Which is probably what the killers were counting on. Maybe, and if so, that means that the killers knew the area. But the question is, did they know the victim? Well, in order to find that out,
Starting point is 00:05:07 they need to know who she is, which is a difficult task, given the injuries to her face and her head. Over the next several hours, police will end up bringing in a total of 31 people to try and identify their Jane Doe. But no one can of these 31 people, like friends and family of potentially missing people.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Now, in this time when they're bringing in person after person, there is a missing persons report that comes in from the Paw. The Paw is the nearest town about 25, 30 minutes away from this lake where they found the Jane Doe. Now, this missing persons report is for a 19-year-old named Helen Betty Osborne, who goes by Betty according to the woman who files the report, and that woman is Patricia Benson. She is who Betty was living with, and I'll touch on that in just a moment, like the dynamic
Starting point is 00:05:54 there. Now, according to what Patricia tells police, Betty hadn't come home after being out the night of November 12th. And when was the Jane Doe found? She is found on the 13th, so this is like really soon. Patricia's husband, William, is one of the 31 people actually who they brought in to potentially identify the Jane Doe. But even when they bring him in, he can't.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I mean, that's how bad this is. But they're so bad, he also can't say that it's not her either. So they end up sending an officer to the Benson's house to lift fingerprints from Betty's school books to compare to the victim and that is when she's finally identified. Now when her full autopsy is completed, everyone is truly shocked to learn what this young woman endured. I mean it was almost unspeakably brutal. She had been stabbed a total of 56 times. 11 of those were in the heart, and the rest were to her face and the back of her head. And according to Bill McDonald reporting for the Winnipeg Sun, he said that these stab
Starting point is 00:06:56 wounds, I told you they were kind of like small, they were like a little strained, but he reported that they were most likely from a screwdriver. Now one injury to the lower back of her head stands out from the others because it is over two inches deep, and the weapon went through her skull and over an inch and a half into her brain. This is how severe this is. Her skull, her cheekbones, the roof of her mouth, all broken.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Her lungs were damaged. A kidney was torn, she has bruises all over her body, which may have been caused by someone beating her with their hands or their feet or some kind of blunt weapon. And her injuries are so severe that it's impossible to tell exactly which one of these led to her death and when during the attack she might have died. But this is, without a doubt, a homicide. So the next day, the investigators go back out to the area where she was found with a police dog.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And about three quarters of a mile from the crime scene, they find gloves, they find a couple pieces of a white cotton bra, they find a paper bag. All of this stuff is covered in blood. And about a half mile from the airport, in a ditch, They find a paper bag. All of this stuff is covered in blood. And about a half mile from the airport in a ditch, they find a flathead screwdriver also covered in blood. Oh.
Starting point is 00:08:15 So this, they're thinking, has got to be their murder weapon, or at least one of them. Because it turns out that another screwdriver had also been found by a civilian. I guess his airport employee. He'd been like driving in the area on the afternoon of the 13th, and he'd found like a whole different screwdriver
Starting point is 00:08:34 on the road, which he had just like tossed in his trunk, thought nothing of it, until he heard about the murder. So he brought that one to police. He feels like, you know, this could be really promising lead. There's actually a name engraved on the screwdriver, Hanson or Ransom, something like that that And I assume that one wasn't covered in blood I don't think so or I I would hope that he'd like a red flag Yeah, I would hope he didn't just like throw it in his car be like oh now that I know about a murder this screwdriver
Starting point is 00:08:58 With blood but I don't know that for sure But either way covered in blood not covered in blood They obviously like see the potential in this and they collect this as evidence. Is this a second murder weapon? We don't know. Now, another lead that comes to police is in the form of this taxi driver named Philip, who tells police that he was driving along that same highway where the screwdriver was found sometime after 4 a.m. the morning of the 13th after he had just dropped off two customers. And he said as he's driving, he ends up behind a car that was like all over the road,
Starting point is 00:09:32 just like zigzagging around. He said the driver was very obviously drunk, like the car almost went into a ditch at one point. And he says the vehicle was a white or a light blue car. And oh, by the way, this doesn't happen in most cases, he got a peek at the license plate, which included the numbers four and two. How close does that get them to somebody?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Like, how much does it narrow it down? It helps. So they go from, like, you know, every car, every light-colored car, to a list of 5,000 cars. 5,000-plus people with a whiter, light blue car and the numbers two and four somewhere, yeah, in the license plate. But while one option is to go down the list one by one
Starting point is 00:10:14 and maybe you'll get there in a few years, like, you know, hopefully it's the first one, but you know, you never know. The other option is to do some investigative work and use this list more as like a cross reference, right? Which that's the route they decide to go in. And they start by retracing Betty's steps on the night of her murder.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Now, quick backstory. Betty is indigenous and she wasn't living with her family at the time. She was living with the Bensons. I told you I'd mentioned Patricia Benson. She was living with them while she went to high school because she was born on a reserve where the schooling only went up to eighth grade.
Starting point is 00:10:52 So she was taking part in this government sponsored program where indigenous students could like board with a local family to finish high school, which I can't even imagine. Like that has to be so hard. Like disruptive. You're already in this very like awkward time of your life. Which I can't even imagine, like that has to be so hard. Like disruptive. You're already in this very like awkward time of your life.
Starting point is 00:11:09 But Betty was super ambitious. She wanted to eventually go to college to be a teacher or a nurse or a lawyer. Like she had big dreams and she was working really hard to achieve them. So her last night at the Benson's home, the 12th, she ate dinner with the family at around six. Then she went out to visit a friend at the Bensons' home, the 12th, she ate dinner with the family at around six. Then she went out to visit a friend at the hospital.
Starting point is 00:11:28 While she was there, she ran into an old friend of hers, this guy named George, and then the two of them decided to just grab a few beers together, head to the Bensons to kinda just catch up. Reminder, we're in 1971 Canada, my US friends, like beers at 19, A-okay. Right. But by 10, 1030, Mrs. Benson said,
Starting point is 00:11:44 like listen, it's time to wrap it up. But Betty and George weren't ready to call it a night. So they head downtown where they meet up with a few more friends. Now around 11, the crew was walking past a hotel and Betty saw her boyfriend with some other friends of his in the lobby of this hotel. Her boyfriend's name is Cornelius Biggity
Starting point is 00:12:02 and author Lisa Preece actually interviewed him when she was writing her book. and she described him as kind of, you wouldn't guess it with this name, but like this Casanova playboy type, as evidenced by the fact that it wasn't just friends he was with that night. Cornelius was actually with another girl that night, and Betty wasn't happy about it. The two of them had gotten into a big fight over this and it ended in Betty and her friends leaving. After that, they went back to the Bensons.
Starting point is 00:12:35 They had a couple more drinks in a shed out back because, again, Mrs. Benson's, like, too late. Yeah. And then around midnight, the other friends left and Betty and George went back downtown again. But by 1230, George was over it. It's cold. It was dark.
Starting point is 00:12:49 It wasn't exactly a great time of night to be walking around in the Pah, especially if you're indigenous and both Betty and George are. So George went home, but Betty didn't want to. So Betty's alone at this point. Yes, she was. And police can put her outside the hotel again at around 12.45, she's just like walking by. Then we know she's seen at a Legion dance at around two in the morning.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And they actually find a witness who saw her walking down the street after she left the dance. This was around like 2.15. Then after 2.15, she's like off the grid. I have to imagine that Playboy boyfriend is one of the first people they look into. Initially he's like the main suspect. They bring him into the police station, they question him, and they don't go easy.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I mean at one point they even show him a picture of Betty's body. Like that's actually how he finds out that his girlfriend is dead, like he hadn't known yet when they did that. But ultimately they end up ruling him out after he passes a polygraph, which we see all the time in the 70s. So they quickly move on, and by the end of November, they have talked to everyone in Betty's circle. All the cottage owners around Clearwater Lake,
Starting point is 00:13:57 where she was found. I mean, half the town pretty much has been talked to, and they still haven't got a clue who she was with after 21 215 or how she ended up all the way out at the lake. Because by the way someone would have had to have driven her out there like she might have been able to walk from the Benson's to downtown and back like that was super easy. But this is so far off the beaten path it yeah you would need a car. It's like a 30 minute drive so like it's not like she's making this walk. It's not even walkable.
Starting point is 00:14:27 It really may be, but certainly not in the dead of winter. Right. Right. So with the good old gum shoeing, not getting them very far, they decide, okay, listen, we tried working it this way. We should maybe go back to our list of over 5,000 cars. Maybe we actually just need to go down that one by one, because we don't have anyone to cross reference, or everyone we are cross referencing
Starting point is 00:14:48 is getting ruled out. But still, they can't start at 5,000. They gotta find a way to narrow it down a little bit. So what they decide to do, another fun 70s thing, they decide to bring Philip, the taxi driver, back in, and this time put him under hypnosis, to see if maybe he can remember a few more of the license plate letters.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Okay. And this time he gives them four numbers, this time in sequence, 5-342, which narrows that list of 5,000 plus possible cars down to just 28. And even better, only one of them is registered to an owner in the P.A.W. The owner is a guy by the name of Bud Colgan. And seeing his name is completely puzzling to police because they know Bud. Like, good know him or bad know him? Bud's a good guy. Bud's got a wife and kids. He's like definitely not your murder a teenager kind of guy
Starting point is 00:15:47 Might be time to rethink everything you know about but no they say no they're like no What a weird thing that he just ended up on our list like I actually don't believe that they question bud at all Now part of the reason might be because I know that his car had been stopped sometime around the time of the murder as a, like, part of a routine traffic stop. And at the time, it wasn't Bud driving, it was his son Lee who was driving. And when I say around the time of Betty's murder, I can't find an exact date. So I don't know if this was like a routine traffic stop. Like I don't think they were setting up roadblocks or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I don't even know if we're talking days or weeks or how they even like made the connection that someone saw his car, but basically they were like, oh, we saw his car around that time too. And there was like nothing fishy in the car. So can't be like, I know it doesn't make sense, but like it doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Like I think they use that as part of the reason to like write him off or write off the car. Okay, so just to be clear, Bud has a son who is around like Betty's age driving the car. I know, I know. I feel like, I honestly- Like you can't pin down the time. Especially like, like now like knowing he has a son, again, they're like, oh, Bud's a good guy. Okay, what about the son?
Starting point is 00:17:03 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Follow-up questions, at the very least. Podcasters have them. These police did not. Like, still, they are very much like nothing to see here, folks. And just like that, this lead, their only lead at this point just fades away. And by doing that, they're basically just discounting taxi driver, Philip Siding.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Like, this whole list, everything that they're counting on, they're main lead right now. Well, yeah, yeah. They're like, oh, this one that actually makes sense. We have one registered in this area where it happened. Like, oh well. Yeah. Either they're discounting a sighting
Starting point is 00:17:35 or they're like, oh, him seeing the car means nothing. Maybe the car wasn't. That's discounting the sighting. Well, I mean, they could think that the sighting happened. Do you know what I'm saying? Am I making sense? Or am I not understanding you? Yeah, but they're one person that it could be. Dude, stop.
Starting point is 00:17:51 We'll get there. So after this, Betty's case goes cold. No one comes forward with new information. And since we're in 1971, we are a far cry away from DNA. Was there anything that they could collect to potentially use later? I mean I know that they took blood samples, they took photos of the footprints, some nearby tire tracks like closer to her body, I know they took her clothes. Spoiler alert though, like none of it ends up being useful later on. It's not, well there might be forensic evidence on it but it's not what we're gonna end up relying on. Cool. Now, her cooling case doesn't go entirely cold because the following year in May, police
Starting point is 00:18:28 get an anonymous letter postmarked in Marquette, Michigan, April 28th, 1972. Now, I found the letter in the report of the Aboriginal Justice Inquiry of Manitoba. What a mouthful. Yeah. But it's like one of the most important letters we get in this case. So Britt, I'm gonna have you read it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:48 It says, SIRS, the following information was related to persons in the fall of 1971 concerning the murdering of a young lady later found on a beach near the Pah, Manitoba. The story was related by Lee Colgan being in a state of intoxication and near tears that he had been driving his car accompanied by Jim Houghton and Norman Manger.
Starting point is 00:19:12 There were two or three mentioned, but their names are forgotten. They had forced the girl into this car where it was then driven to the murder site, the girl being raped by all. She had threatened police action. She was then murdered using a screwdriver, punch, or similar instrument. Gordy Buck had seemingly witnessed the car returning from the beach in the early a.m. and Lee Colgan lives in constant fear of information possible being forwarded to the local authorities. It is hoped that investigation by the officers can
Starting point is 00:19:43 produce results. The informants do not wish to identify as reprisals were threatened by Lee Colgan against the friends and families concerned. These men are all of the local area of the Paw, Manitoba. So I feel like all roads are leading back to Lee, right? Yeah. It might be worth, I don't know, talking to the kids since they have not yet, but not so fast. First, they don't just put it away, but they try and do some digging to validate
Starting point is 00:20:15 what is in this letter. They confirm that the three guys named in the letter, so Lee, Jim, and Norm, who were 18, 23, and 25 when Betty was murdered, all three are known to hang around together. They're also able to place all three of these guys at the Legion Dance on November 12th, which is-
Starting point is 00:20:33 Where Betty was. Betty was, that's one of the last places she was seen. Did she know them? So no, not like well. The only one in the group who might have known her or at least known of her was Lee, because he'd been in one class with Betty at high school. Sometimes he'd play volleyball and basketball
Starting point is 00:20:49 with her boyfriend, Cornelius, and she would be like, you know, watching her boyfriend play or whatever, but like, they for sure weren't friends. Just in this area might have like, known each other's names, right? JADEA ANGLE-CHADOWSKY Yeah. Anyway, police track down Lee and Norm first. They both live in the Paw, and they both flat out deny having anything to do with Betty's
Starting point is 00:21:09 murder. Surprise, surprise. Jim is a little harder to track down. The Justice Inquiry report says RCMP speak with his parents in an attempt to locate him because I guess Jim has since moved away from the PAW, but it doesn't say if they actually ever questioned him. It's really strange. And I mean, like, it's hard to like go full speed at somebody, especially after they leave,
Starting point is 00:21:31 because the only thing they have right now is circumstantial, like, evidence. It's just a letter. Yeah, witness statements, yeah. So detectives go back to that thread that they never pulled on, the Colgan's car. And when they actually do go look at it, like meaningfully look at it,
Starting point is 00:21:50 guess what they find freaking right there? Blood stains and hair that looks like Betty's. Oh, and a bra strap, the same kind, or it looks like it belongs to the same bra as the one that they found in pieces at the crime scene And this is what like six months later seven? I know and was this car still being like Driven around like the family had to have known I'm assuming it's still being driven and we're not talking
Starting point is 00:22:18 So here's the thing. We're not talking like huge blood stains or chunks of hair. It's more like a few strands I think maybe a couple small blood stains when they're really trying to process this car. I think one, if I remember correctly, the blood stain was like on a strap underneath the back seat. So it's not something that I think they would have like, they're like, oh, look at all this evidence
Starting point is 00:22:38 just like laying around. I think it kind of went hidden unless you were really looking for it. And even though it's not a lot, it is still not a good look. But when they go back to Lee Colgan with this evidence and they're like, hey, how do you explain this? He's basically like, so what?
Starting point is 00:22:55 Like you found a bra strap and some blood, that doesn't prove anything. But what does it prove, Lee? Like where'd the blood come from? He doesn't say. No, he doesn't say. He denies any involvement. And unfortunately, even with what they have and this, like, anonymous letter, like, it's not enough to actually do anything with. But, I mean, you gotta think, if the letter writer is correct, it wasn't just Lee. Norm and Jim are in the car that night,. And apparently there's someone else that they should be looking for.
Starting point is 00:23:26 And on June 23rd, another anonymous tipster comes forward with another name. This new tipster gives police the name Dwayne Johnston. This is a local from the Paw who was 18 when Betty was killed. Now this name, Dwayne was not mentioned in the letter. And he doesn't really chum around with these other guys either. But police do know who he is, mostly because he is associated
Starting point is 00:23:55 with this group known as the PAW Bikers, who tend to get themselves in trouble with police, like, barely often. And what does he have to say? Dwayne refuses to cooperate. Like, he has a lawyer, and this same lawyer like, barely often. And what does he have to say? Dwayne refuses to cooperate. Like he has a lawyer, and this same lawyer also ends up getting hired by Lee, Jim, and Norm. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Now all of them refuse to talk. But I mean, the town's talking, though. Rumors are flying left and right. Stories of Lee getting drunk and telling whoever he's with that he was there that night. He knows what happened to Betty. But again, like we just have rumors and rumors don't get you a rest warrant. True, but what does blood stains in your car get you? Not a whole lot in 1971.
Starting point is 00:24:37 So it stays this way for 10 years. It's not until the summer of 1983 when a new investigator, Robert Urbanovsky, cracks open Betty's case again. And in 1983, there's a little, not a lot, but a little more they can do with forensic evidence. So he tracks down all the evidence and resubmits it for testing. He interviews every officer who worked on the file over the last 12 years. He talks to
Starting point is 00:25:05 police informants. He locates all four suspects who are by now kind of just scattered around Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba. And it turns out when he's going around talking to these people and people around them, they're still just out there talking about the murder of Betty Osborne. So Urbanovsky knows this case is solvable. So he asked to investigate it full time and RCMP is like, listen, knock yourself out. So there are a few things he does to get the ball rolling again. Though this is a little further down the line in 1985.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Now, one of the things he does is this whole wire tapping operation that to make a long story short, doesn't result in much of anything he can actually use. So in the summer of 1985, he puts an article in the local paper asking for the public's help solving Betty's case. He says he believes she was lured into a car,
Starting point is 00:25:59 taken to the lake where she was killed. And he even in this like post addresses the fear of retaliation that has kind of permeated a lot of the rumors surrounding these four guys. But he assures the public, listen, any tipster who comes forward, you will remain anonymous. And this works like the floodgates open with tips. And the first person to come forward
Starting point is 00:26:21 is a woman named Andrea, who according to Bill McDonald's reporting for the Winnipeg Sun, tells detectives that she heard Dwayne Johnston brag about the murder at a party one night back in 1972, back when she was 14. She says that at one point during this party, Dwayne stood up, he made stabbing motions with his hand and admitted to stabbing her over and over. And he was laughing about it and later said that it felt great to kill someone.
Starting point is 00:26:50 There's a second woman that comes forward and says that she too heard that Dwayne had killed Betty, but one of his friends threatened to kill her if she ever told anyone. Then, the third witness that comes forward is a local sheriff named Gerald. And Gerald tells Urbanowski that he'd been drinking at the Legion one night with his buddy Lee when the bartender brought over a vodka and orange juice and set it in front of Lee. And he's like, this is courtesy of the RCMP. That drink is called a screwdriver.
Starting point is 00:27:24 That's a screwdriver. Apparently, the local cops used to do this to Lee like all the time for years because like they always felt like he was not only the person but in the group of people who are the persons like he was potentially the weak link or like in their chain of silence. He was the one that maybe they could break like if they could wear him down enough, maybe he would talk one day. So Gerald's sitting down with him. He gets this screwdriver.
Starting point is 00:27:47 After the drink arrives, Lee gets really upset, and he just starts telling Gerald. Again, not like he's not doing this all around. People have been hearing these rumors for so long. Right. He starts telling Gerald about how he was there, how police won't leave him alone ever since. And at that point, Gerald like, hustled
Starting point is 00:28:05 Lee out of the bar into his camper where they had another drink. He's like, kind of like, I think trying to open the floodgates even more. And he gets him to just start talking. Lee tells him the whole story of Betty's murder. I'm sorry, when is this happening? This was the drinks and stuff like that at the Legion. This is happening in like 1977 or 78. And Lee is telling all of this to a sheriff? A sheriff. Not like the sheriff in charge of the investigation but... But still a law enforcement officer. Why are we talking about it so many years later then? I don't know. I imagine he feels like he's getting the same,
Starting point is 00:28:43 right? Like this isn't the first time he's opened up. I imagine he feels like he's getting the same right like this isn't the first time he's opened up I imagine he feels like he's getting the same story that all these people around town have been getting surely Police must know about it like we see that all the time like surely someone reported this and looked into it It's not important for me to come forward right right, but now that they're like again this Request for information opens up, this guy calls in and be like, just to make sure you know that this happened. And they're like, no, we didn't know. This is this is helpful.
Starting point is 00:29:11 So after Urbanowski submits everything he's learned to the attorney general's department, and despite not having much new in the way of physical evidence, charges are approved. I don't know what changed because again, they don't have more now. Like I don't know if the sources seem more credible. I don't know if the number of stories they have or people coming forward is just- But the witness statements are enough.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Yeah. So Lee is arrested in October of 1986, followed by Dwayne Johnston's arrest a few weeks later. And what about the other two guys? So they're not arrested. There are a couple reasons for that. First of all, the people who come forward with information, none of them had anything to say about Norm and Jim.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Like, all the stories were about Lee and Duane. And I don't know, they might be thinking that Lee, I mean, again, Lee is the one that seems like the weak link to them. They might be thinking that if they can get a confession out of him, then they can, if there was other people involved, things will fall into place. Exactly. But initially, Lee and Dwayne hold out. They refused to tell investigators what happened that night, which is a far cry from how Lee in particular has been acting for the last 15 years. Again, I think they thought they were going to put
Starting point is 00:30:20 pressure on him and fold right away. Yeah,, they're gonna get the whole story. But he clammed up, refusing to implicate himself or his friends until right before his preliminary hearing in 1987. That's when he says, I'll give you everything. And I'll give you what you need to arrest Jim Houghton. But in exchange, I want full immunity. Full immunity. Full immunity. Full immunity.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And as painful as it is without Lee's testimony, frankly, even with his testimony, the Crown prosecutor knows that the defense is gonna run a freight train through the holes in their case. There is no slam dunk physical evidence. Like we are just starting to like think about maybe someday using DNA. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:07 It would be another year before DNA shows up in the Canadian courtroom. So it literally is not a thing at this point. So what might be physical evidence today was just circumstantial back in the 80s. You have four possible suspects, each of whom could have been the one to kill Betty. Like they need Lee's testimony if they're going to secure a conviction, any convictions, even if it means he walks away. So with his immunity secured, Lee spills his guts. He says that on Friday night, November 12th, 1971, he borrowed his father's car,
Starting point is 00:31:40 and he, Norm Manger, and Jim Houghton went into town to drink and just like cruise around. They went to the Legion and just drove around some and then they met up with Dwayne Johnston. As the Friday night crowd was starting to thin out, they decided that they wanted to find an indigenous girl to party with, as in have sex with. And they were going to do this whether this woman that they found consented or not. Which just shows you what their intentions, I think, were from the beginning. According to Shari Narine's reporting for the Thompson Citizen, this whole driving around looking for a girl to party with,
Starting point is 00:32:17 again, this is like an indigenous girl specifically, this was common practice around this time. And the girl they found on that night was Betty. But Betty had no interest in even talking to these guys, let alone sleeping with any of them. But like I said, they're not gonna take a simple no for an answer, so they pulled over the car. Dwayne got out to try at first to convince her
Starting point is 00:32:40 to come with them, but when that didn't work, he forced her into the backseat and the car took off. At this point in the night, Lee says that Jim was behind the wheel with Norm in the front passenger seat and Betty was in the back seat between Lee and Duane. They decided to go to Jim's family cottage near Clearwater Lake. The guys are all still drinking at this point and they were trying to get Betty to drink more too, but she was refusing. She was telling them that she didn't want to, she was begging them to let her go, and that's when things turned violent.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Dwayne began ripping off Betty's shirt and bra and started to sexually assault her. Now, Lee says he wasn't just like sitting back there watching, he was engaged in it too. He was groping her at this point. But Betty was not going down without a fight. She was clawing at them to the point where Lee says that he thought she was gonna gouge
Starting point is 00:33:33 Dwayne's eyes out or something. So instead of stopping, he held her arms down so Dwayne could continue assaulting her. Now when they got to the cottage, they all got out of the car, and Lee says that he, Jim, and Norm all stood around drinking while Dwayne kept going, kept assaulting Betty. And literally, the others are just standing around
Starting point is 00:33:57 watching it happen? Well, at first, that's how he positions it. Like, I mean, again, we know he, like, holds her down in the car, but he basically, like, at first, he says, yeah, like, it's all Dwayne, we're just kind of sitting there.'s how he positions it. Like, I mean, again, we know he like holds her down in the car, but he basically like, at first he says, yeah, like, it's all Duane, we're just kind of sitting there, we're not stopping it. But in the Aboriginal Justice Inquiry's final report, he does end up admitting that he took part in the beating at this point of the night as well.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Now he says, they weren't at the cottage for very long because Betty wouldn't stop screaming and they started to worry that someone was going to hear her. So they put her back in the car and they drive even farther out of town where they knew it would be deserted. Again, we knew they knew the area. Out to the lake. Mm-hmm. Lee says that when they got there, Duane took Betty out of the car, but that the other three stayed inside and just kept drinking. He says every so often they would hear banging against the side or the back of the car. He was pretty sure that that was the sound of Betty being beaten even further.
Starting point is 00:34:54 But again, none of them did anything to stop it. None of them did anything to help her. And Lee tells them that after five or 10 minutes, the banging stopped. And at some point after that, Jim got out of the car. Betty was still alive at that point. Like Lee could see her when the interior light went on. More time passed, and then Dwayne came back to the car, reached under the seat for a screwdriver, and then he left again.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Lee said that he and Norm waited a little bit longer but like it felt endless so he climbed up into the driver's seat and turned the car around and at that point he says he yelled out the window for the guys to just hurry up. No one answers at first so he's like okay we're gonna leave without you and then someone said back just a minute and not long after Jim and Duane were back in the car, and then one of them, he doesn't remember which one, said simply, she's dead. Now Lee says that he remembers the screwdriver
Starting point is 00:35:53 being wiped off and thrown out the window while they were driving back into town. And he says they all parted ways once they got back to the PAW. But before he and Jim split for the night, they made this pact to keep whatever happened quiet between them. It's a pact that they later brought
Starting point is 00:36:10 both Dwayne and Norm into as well. Now, the problem with this is that even with Lee's story, detectives still don't know who actually wielded the weapon that killed Betty Osborn. Now they think the likeliest candidate was probably Dwayne for a couple of reasons. First, he's already associated with the bikers in the pop, which like they're not technically a motorcycle gang
Starting point is 00:36:34 in the organized sense, but they're also not like a polite upstanding law abiding citizens either. Second, he is also well known in town for his racist views and his treatment of indigenous people, men and women alike. citizens either. Second, he is also well known in town for his racist views and his treatment of indigenous people, men and women alike. And more importantly, he had been the guy overheard at a party that time talking about what it felt like to kill someone. So if Dwayne is the one holding the weapon, Jim just was out there with him watching it happen? He helped Dwayne drag Betty?
Starting point is 00:37:06 That's the implication. Either way, it's enough to get an arrest warrant for Jim, which they do in March of 1987. Then later that year in November, Dwayne and Jim stand trial for the first degree murder of Helen Betty Osborne. And this is just over 16 years after her murder actually took place.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Whatever happened with Norm? What happened with him? He never gets charged. And listen, he said he was there, but he was super drunk. It was awful. He said he didn't have anything to do with it. And part of Lee's whole story was that Norm was so disturbed by what was going on that he, like, curled up into a ball underneath the dash just like crying and whimpering. So, I mean, it still puts in there. Like, it still puts you not helping, not stopping, not talking.
Starting point is 00:37:54 But I guess they didn't feel like they had enough to actually take him to trial. So this trial against Dwayne and Jim, the only trial they're gonna have to hold anyone accountable, this gets underway in November of 1987. Truly in front of a jury of the killer's peers, all white, made up primarily of working class men. The Crown argues that Dwayne and Jim,
Starting point is 00:38:20 along with Lee and Norm, saw Betty walking down the streets in the paw, forced her into their car, saw Betty walking down the streets in the Paw, forced her into their car, drove her out to the lake where she was beaten and sexually assaulted. And at the end of the night, they basically realized they'd gone too far, and so they killed her to avoid any kind of accountability. At trial, Lee Colgan was of course the star witness, along with Norm and several people from the Paw who'd been told about the murder over the years.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I don't know, like maybe that freaking sheriff? Yes, so the sheriff is one of the witnesses who testifies at this trial about knowing, at least in broad strokes, the details of the crime and who committed it. And he becomes kind of a lightning rod, actually. So according to Heidi Graham's reporting for the Winnipeg Sun, after he testifies, there are calls for a full public inquiry, not just about this sheriff and his role in keeping this secret, but about the whole system. Yeah, thing. And why it took so long for police to charge someone. So this sheriff ends up getting investigated by the attorney general. And within a couple of months, he's transferred to another job.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Apparently they'd wanted to fire him, but they weren't confident it would hold up with the Employees Union. So anyways, he's one of the witnesses who takes the stand over the course of this seven day trial. Each person telling the same story about the same crime committed by the same men. Information that they had known for well over a decade
Starting point is 00:39:44 without telling police. I mean, they have physical evidence too, right? Like they have the murder weapon or two of them? It is later and I mean they do, but actually the trial is far more about testimony than it is about physical evidence. Like I know they definitely bring forward all that stuff, the screwdriver, the blood, the hair, the backseat of Lee's car. But the physical evidence is very much, like in the whole of this, like second to the testimony. Which makes sense because they weren't able to test any of that, to like definitively,
Starting point is 00:40:11 without a doubt say, this was Betty's blood, this was Betty's hair. Which is part of why I think that it played like second fiddle. All in all, the jury deliberates for a grand total of, I think this is the lowest I've ever seen, 30 minutes. And the verdict, or should I say verdicts, this is the lowest I've ever seen, 30 minutes. And the verdict, or
Starting point is 00:40:26 should I say verdicts, this is a little surprising. Jim is acquitted and Dwayne is found guilty of second degree murder. Okay, so just to do some math, there are four people known to have been involved in this crime. Like fully there, while it happened, four people. There were three arrests. There were then two people on trial. And out of those two people, we got one conviction. One conviction. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:54 That's not great math. How is this what happened? It has a lot to do with who they are. Like when you look at the makeup of this, like, Duane, the one guy who they get a conviction on, he has always known to be this racist lowlife, like, right up until his arrest. I mean, there were intimate partner violence rumors about Duane, too, rumors that were denied
Starting point is 00:41:18 by the women he'd been with. But it's not unthinkable. I think when they're looking at the people in front of them, it's not unthinkable. I think when they're looking at the people in front of them, it's not unthinkable that this guy might do something like what was done to Betty. But here's the thing, like, Jim, by the time that this trial comes around, again, this is like 16 years later... I'm just saying, it's the by the time that's frustrating.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Exactly. He's got a wife, he's got a good job, the kids, the white picket fence, the whole deal. I mean, Jim is literally like coaching his kids' hockey team and barbecuing with neighbors on the weekend. I think people just like, they're like, but he's a good guy, he's a nice guy. But what I can't get past is there were four people there that night.
Starting point is 00:42:00 It, to me, doesn't really matter. If you're a nice guy now? That you're a nice guy now, or if you were the one holding the weapon or not. Like, it's also frustrating that like, he's a nice guy is the reason it took so long to get her in the first place, right? Like when they're like, oh, it's only this one guy's car, but he's a nice guy. Right. He's a nice guy is everything that's wrong with this case. And again, like, I'm sorry, do nice guys sit by while a woman is being murdered? Right. Like, that's not a nice guy. That's not a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:42:29 And not only like the thing you did, but even keeping it secret all those years, like what you did to Betty's family too. Like you chose every day to put yourself above them. While also like bragging about it on the down-low. Like, almost making a mockery of the lack of justice. Yeah. And speaking of that, a mockery of justice, Dwayne was sentenced to life in prison for Betty's murder, which feels good.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Yeah. But he only serves 10 years, and he was released in 1997. So the only conviction we got... You got 10 years....yielded a sentence of 10 years. Yes. Now what I will say is that I don't think the only cell is a prison. Like it gives me a little bit of solace that even when the system fails sometimes there is something in the universe, even if it's a person's own conscious that tries to set things right. Like with Lee, for example, I don't think it's a coincidence
Starting point is 00:43:33 that despite having every opportunity in life and the unwavering support of his family, even though by all accounts he didn't deserve it, Lee went fully off the rails after the murder. He kind of just spiraled into drug and alcohol use. He couldn't hold a job. He has all these run-ins with police, domestic violence. And I mean, it gets so bad that after he was arrested, they had to hold him in a secure hospital room
Starting point is 00:43:56 so he didn't die detoxing in a cell. So like those 16 years he, I mean, and more he had free, I don't think they were happy years. He's since died and the others have kind of just faded into obscurity. I know I had the team try and find out what they were doing now, but like, couldn't really. But I like, I understand keeping a low profile because their names will forever be tied to this prolific case. A case that should not have taken over a decade to solve, and I think everyone knows it's their fault that it did.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Right. In April 1988, the government of Manitoba established the public inquiry into the administration of justice and aboriginal people to look at the circumstances surrounding the investigation into Betty's murder. And the final report says it better than I ever could. So, Brett, I'm going to have you read it. It is clear that Betty Osborne would not have been killed if she had not been Aboriginal.
Starting point is 00:44:52 The four men who took her to her death from the streets of the Paw that night had gone looking for an Aboriginal girl with whom to party. They found Betty Osborne. When she refused to party, she was driven out of town and murdered. Those who abducted her showed a total lack of regard for her person or her rights as an individual. Those who stood by while the physical assault took place, while sexual advances were made, and while she was being beaten to death, showed their own racism, sexism, and indifference. Those who knew the story and remained silent must share their guilt.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Amen. Yeah. Starting in 2021, a memorial fund was established in Helen Betty Osborne's name through the National Center for Truth and Reconciliation at the University of Manitoba. The goal of the scholarship is to provide financial support to full-time post-secondary indigenous students living in Manitoba. The goal of the scholarship is to provide financial support to full-time post-secondary indigenous students
Starting point is 00:45:47 living in Manitoba. But even more than that, these students are recognized for their dedication and commitment to dismantling, quote, "'the barriers of racism, sexism, violence, and indifference in society, including those impacted by the missing and murdered indigenous people genocide, and or survivors of gender-based violence." Thanks to all of you who listen and who are in the fan club, AudioChuck was able to make
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