Crime Junkie - MURDERED: Najah // Angie

Episode Date: April 13, 2020

Two Indianapolis women have been murdered. Though the cases aren't connected they both have eerie parallels and both remain unsolved. Are you the person out there who can help IMPD and Avon Police s...olve these murders?For current Fan Club membership options and policies, please visit https://crimejunkieapp.com/library/. Sources for this episode cannot be listed here due to character limitations. For a full list of sources, please visit https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/murdered-najah-angie/ 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, crime junkies. I'm your host Ashley Flowers, and I'm Brit. So Brit the story that I have today hits a little close to home for me Partly because like physically both cases that I'm going to talk about are here in Indianapolis But also because in one of the cases I've actually been in direct contact with the family of the victim You see I recently got this email from a woman named Jelisa out in Vegas And she told me that her sister has gone missing from my own backyard here in Indy and her case was going cold really fast And it was getting almost no attention. So I started looking into it and she was right There's almost nothing out there, but it's a very bizarre case that needs more eyeballs on it And this case made me think of another story that's faded from the Indianapolis headlines. That's
Starting point is 00:00:49 Incredibly similar. So today I decided to tell you two stories two stories that are local to me Two stories of women who it seems people have been willing to write off But these cases are far from cold and they just need enough people to care to help push the cases forward So please listen close everyone to these stories share them with everyone, you know because in both of these cases Someone very specific out there holds the key to solving them and these two women deserve justice These are the stories of Naja Farrell and Angie Barlow The First story I want to tell you is the one that started this all for me the story of Naja Farrell
Starting point is 00:02:06 It was her stepsister Jelisa who wrote into us and Jelisa has actually been a crime junkie her whole life She says she's always been obsessed not only with these cases But with the podcast specifically and her world has been turned upside down now that she's living one of our episodes So when I started looking into her sister's case, I couldn't even believe what I was reading Admittedly, I don't consume a lot of traditional media like watching the news or listening to the radio Isn't something that I get to do much anymore Everything's on my phone and not just because I'm busy, but that's just a lot of people our age aren't getting their traditional news The traditional ways anymore, right?
Starting point is 00:02:42 And I mean, it's why I think podcasting is so important to get information out But anyways, let me tell you what I learned from Jelisa. So Naja is originally from Northwest Indiana like up by Gary She moved down to Indy in 2006 and around 2016 She moved to a suburb on the west side of Indianapolis called Avon and for those of you who don't have any like reference point for this area It's really close like I have friends who live in Avon that I see all the time Jelisa told me that Naja loved the schools and the community over there because you see she was a bio mom to two of her own kids And she was also fostering three other kids from an organization called seeds of life here in Indianapolis Wow, like as a foster and adoptive mom like that's a lot on her plate
Starting point is 00:03:27 Yeah, I mean absolutely and I I asked Jelisa what made Naja want to foster and she said really like she was just the most Giving person in the world who had this special soft spot for children And she wanted to love and care for kids who didn't have someone to love and care for them All in all Naja had built a pretty solid life for herself and her kids She'd been dating the same guy for the past ten years He was the father of her youngest bio kid and in 2016 He presented her with a ring and the two became engaged to be married though. No date was ever officially set But in early 2019 things had begun to change for Naja not all at once
Starting point is 00:04:05 But little by little for starters She had been a stay-at-home mom for a while after spending like five years working as a surgical tech at a local hospital She had taken a break to focus on her kids, but now that they're all in school She was looking for something to you know, keep her busy So she finds a job at Panera bread working the early morning shift and she told Jelisa that she loved it because it gave her something to do A little extra money in the pocket and she was often time to pick her kids up from school And I imagine the extra money was nice because in addition to this new job things were also changing at home for Naja Whatever feelings once were there between her and her fiance had begun to fade and the relationship ended in early March
Starting point is 00:04:48 Naja asked him to move out But anyone who's lived with a partner knows that this is a little more complicated than that It can be hard to just like pack your bags and go So the couple was still in this limbo period trying to figure out their new living arrangements And they probably would have come to some resolution Except on March 15th Everything changed that morning Naja had to get up super early for the new job that she just started at Panera And when I say she just started I mean just like March 15th was only her third day of orientation
Starting point is 00:05:20 Now according to reporting from Katie Cox at our TV 6 Naja wakes up at 3 o'clock in the morning to make sure that she's ready for her 5 a.m. Shift and generally this is what all of the news outlets report. She gets herself ready She asks her fiance to get the kids up and get them ready later in the morning She says goodbye to him and she walks out the door Now Jelisa tells me that Naja's car was seen on video leaving her apartment complex around 3 20 in the morning And the rest of the day is pretty uneventful for the people surrounding Naja the kids go to school I assume her fiance goes about his day even Naja's own mom Paula who lives in India as well goes on to work not Realizing that she is about to get a call that will change everything
Starting point is 00:06:05 so later that afternoon her phone rings and It's a social worker The social worker tells Paula that Naja's kids are all overdue for being picked up and they've tried reaching her twice But she's just not answering or calling them back now right away. This is incredibly concerning to Paula Naja is one of the most Accountable people she knows like Jelisa told me Naja was the person everyone went to when they needed something like they used to call her The resource queen because she was so dependable. She had all of these connections She was just someone that you could depend on so if she said she was gonna be there
Starting point is 00:06:41 She would have been there. She would have never left her kids stranded So Paula leaves work and she goes and picks up the kids and she also tries calling Naja on her cell phone It would just ring and ring and ring, but no answer when they get back to Paula's house there was actually some family members staying in from out of town they were there for like a wedding or something and Paula tells them about why she's home early why she has the kids with her and how she's worried something is wrong and They all kind of go back and forth together and they have this interaction that I think is so important to emphasize The family staying in town told Paula like we need to call police right now But Paula says, you know, I think we have to wait a certain amount of time before we can call police and
Starting point is 00:07:24 The cousin who's there is like listen, I don't think so But let me call my friend who's a police officer in another state and sure enough that officer tells them Absolutely not if she's gone and this is out of the norm tell police right away So right away they contact the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department to report her missing IMPD takes the report and then calls Panera where Naja worked that day to get some information Like when was she last seen what time did she leave was she acting normal all of that? But everyone's concern grows when the manager at Panera tells them. Oh Well, Naja never came in today. What she was a no-call-no show wait
Starting point is 00:08:04 So she hasn't been seen all day. Did Panera like try reaching out to anybody else? So as far as I can tell no, I mean, this is the food industry. Unfortunately, no call no shows are probably pretty frequent Assumptions clearly got made. Maybe she slept in maybe after two days of orientation She wasn't up for the job either way from everything I can tell no one at her work notified anyone Which like I get not calling police, but I've had food service jobs before really any job You have to put down an emergency contact and I don't understand why that person wasn't notified at 5 a.m So we didn't lose like what 12 hours? But whatever the reason no one knew so over 12 hours past where Naja was missing and no one had any idea
Starting point is 00:08:49 Now that they do know though, there's this little jurisdictional snag Naja was reported missing to IMPD because that's where her work was located But since she never actually made it into work. She was technically last seen in Avon So the case gets transferred over to Avon police, which is a much smaller department now One of the biggest issues in the case to me is Jaleesa tells me that because Naja goes missing on Friday and no one really knows until the end of the day then the case gets transferred Avon doesn't put a detective on her case until Monday We already lost an entire day and then they basically gave away a whole weekend
Starting point is 00:09:31 I know and listen, I fully get that detectives are real humans with families and lives and they need some kind of normalcy But I don't understand why not just case wasn't actively worked right away. It just doesn't make any sense to me But by Monday a detective is assigned to the case and everyone is in agreement You know, I mean now it's been days with no sign of her The fact that she didn't show up for work and that she never picked up her kids meant that she is in trouble and police Treated this case with the consideration that they were probably looking at foul play Now concern continues to grow for her safety when day after day after day the searches for her are coming up with I mean Absolutely nothing. They're doing aerial searches. They're doing ground searches all over Indy's north and southwest side
Starting point is 00:10:19 But every time nothing like she just vanished into thin air Then less than two weeks out from her disappearance construction workers find something on the side of the road Random items and some of them belong to nausea Now police have been pretty cagey about what exactly they found and exactly where the most they have said is that what they found Was somewhere near I-465 and Lafayette Road and I mapped this area out It's about 20 minutes northeast of her home and like 16 minutes south of where she worked But literally this intersection is right on the route that she would have taken from home to work All of the official news outlets from back in 2019 reported that the specifics about the items found were never released by the police
Starting point is 00:11:06 But I got some information from Jalisa She told me that they at least have nausea's ID Credit card and debit card and it seems like they were thrown on to the highway now She also said something else interesting in a follow-up email. She said that along with nausea's ID Police also found IDs from some people out of state though She doesn't know exactly who's or where they were in relation to nausea stuff So I can't make any kind of definitive conclusions about whether or not they're related at all Yeah, but I mean if her family knows about it personally, I would assume that they heard it from the police and
Starting point is 00:11:43 There's no reason the police would tell the family about these IDs if they thought they had nothing to do with the case Yeah, I mean, I honestly don't know okay, but either way did finding that stuff help narrow the search at all Well, I couldn't find any sources that explicitly said they targeted their search based on where the items were found But I have to believe it helped because just a few days later. They get a big break on March 26 police locate Naja's car Which was a black Nissan Altima in the parking lot of a studio movie grill Now what's crazy about this is that the parking lot was super close to the Panera where she worked I read an article written by Justin Mac in Indy star that said it was just two and a half miles away
Starting point is 00:12:30 So again, I decided to map it. I'm at least somewhat familiar with this area So I thought it would give me I don't know like a better sense of the case and this is when things start Just to not make sense to me. First of all when I map the Panera to studio movie grill. It's just 0.8 miles 0.8 So immediately I'm thinking one thing it was placed there later bingo They did a decent amount of searching in those early days So to not find a car 0.8 miles away from the place that she was supposed to be heading to Seemed absurd to me and Jelisa told me that it wasn't their day one. She's confident of that
Starting point is 00:13:07 She said the car was found sometime after police had put out the info on her car to all of the news outlets for people It's like be on the lookout. So I'm thinking having that car got too dangerous for someone It was too hot So they had to dump it and they tried to dump it near where she worked possibly to play into the narrative that she left it there But honestly, that wasn't my biggest hang up Because then what I did is I input the cross streets near not just home to map her route from home to work and This is when everything I thought I knew about the case started to fall apart When you map not just home to her work, it takes just 30 minutes to get there. Okay, so
Starting point is 00:13:56 So her car left her apartment complex at 320. There's no traffic at that time So that puts her getting to work at around 350 What on earth is she doing for an hour in 10 minutes before her shift starts because remember her shift doesn't start till 5 a.m So I asked her sister about this like would there be anyone she was meeting anywhere She stopped before work was this normal for her and she insisted no She would have never left that early It doesn't make sense and almost offhandedly Jelisa said something that sent a shipper down my spine She said plus she left her work shoes and her coat at home
Starting point is 00:14:38 So like she wasn't even heading to work. I mean or she wasn't heading to work with her work stuff So Jelisa makes the point of telling me when the car is seen on the camera at 320 It's too dark and grainy to actually make out who's driving. So really it may not have been Naja at all Now obviously this seems mad fishy, but police have never opened up about this stuff None of the news outlets have reported on it at all All I know is that the next thing police do is try to pull any and all surveillance video They can get from the areas around her home in Avon and around that Panera and studio movie grill where her car was found In a press conference police held in April of 2019
Starting point is 00:15:23 They said that it would take a long time to collect and catalog everything I mean basically they have to go door to door collect each video Analyze each video. I mean it's a grueling task But while they're doing this legwork, they get another huge break in the case on Monday April 8th This is now three weeks since Naja has been missing the Avon police get a call from authorities in Crown Point, Indiana Which is up by Gary. This is pretty much like two hours northwest of where she worked and where her car was found anyways police get this call and authorities up there say hey
Starting point is 00:15:59 two guys were fishing a couple of days ago and they pulled something out of the water it was a foot and We think it might belong to your missing person based on a tattoo that's visible They said that the tattoo just said Naja and that's when they knew Now it took almost a month before Shakira Harris reported for RTB 6 that police confirmed It was not just foot with DNA, but that was just a formality police knew her family knew this was her And you know when I was talking to Delisa She kind of laughed because a memory was brought up for her and as horrible and traumatizing as this all is for her
Starting point is 00:16:41 She said I can't help but think of when Naja got that tattoo She said all of her sisters gave her so much crap because they're like who in the world gets their own name tattooed on their foot It was kind of this running joke with them But now so many years later It was that tattoo that told Naja's family where she was but there was one problem It was just the foot they never searched the pond or the lake or wherever the foot was found Oh, no, they searched in it, but nothing was ever found Whoever put Naja's foot in the water only put her foot in the water
Starting point is 00:17:18 I mean, it's now over a year later and since the finding of her foot Nothing else has been discovered. You're kidding me. Nope Did they get anything from all the security videos they were pulling like a year ago? So I don't really know after that press conference a year ago There hasn't been much else reported on Naja Now Delisa tells me that police did pinpoint footage of her car being dropped off at the studio movie grill And it actually doesn't come from the studio movie grill like they didn't have a camera if they did it didn't capture anything It actually comes from another business located in the same complex
Starting point is 00:17:55 But it shows Naja's car being parked and then a single what looks like possibly a man getting out of the car Getting into another car and leaving. So there has to be at least one other person who knows what happened besides her killer, right? Exactly. Do we know why they haven't released this video footage like a year has gone by nothing's happened There has to be some information that like can be released to spark the public attention again or get people looking Maybe these people could be recognized. Listen, I'm with you like I I don't know I understand police silence, but It's also a year later The family feels like everything is kind of at a standstill and the newspapers haven't even really picked up the case or done much since last year
Starting point is 00:18:40 I mean, they were literally like a couple of anniversary posts in March after the Avon police made this tweet in here But I'll show you the actual tweet that they sent out. Yeah, the tweet just says please retweet Naja Farrell case March 15th 2020 marks the one-year mark since Naja Farrell was reported missing by her family Our team continues to work with the Indiana State Police and the Federal Bureau of Investigation on this investigation And then there's a picture of her Yeah, so they sent that out Unfortunately, this is something that I didn't even think about
Starting point is 00:19:14 The anniversary of her case is also falling at the same time as all of this coronavirus outbreak so Getting any kind of like renewed exposure for her on the anniversary is really hard Mm-hmm and honestly even Jalisa was like defensive of the police and media saying listen there They're honestly just isn't even anything new to report I understand that there's a lot going on in the press right now. I understand that there isn't even a lot of new information out there to Re-report on but I'm just baffled at how her case has just kind of disappeared and so many people don't even know about it Especially when I mean if you look at the facts of this case
Starting point is 00:19:52 Something terrible happened to this woman and we should all be outraged that her family hasn't gotten the answers yet I mean, can you even imagine your your daughter your sister going missing? Finding their foot only their foot and still having no answers a full year later The police have to know more. I mean absolutely. I think that's always the case police know more than they release But why has there been no movement? Jalisa says that they're running down some digital records So it's not completely stalled, but she's worried that it will be if people don't keep talking about this case You know one of the things I can't really get past is you said earlier that she had moved from Gary to Indy back in the day, right?
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah, yeah, like 2006 or something right? I'm really familiar with northern Indiana because that's where I live and crown point isn't that far away from Gary. Oh Yeah, so they're super close. Is there any like connection between her old life and Gary and her foot being found in crown point? I don't know question mark Maybe some so her hometown was Gary and according to Katie Cox's piece from our TV six. She said this quote police say Farrell does have connections to the crown point area in northern Indiana But they could not confirm the details of those connections or how recent they may have been end quote and I asked Jalisa about these connections because I it was so vague. I didn't know what that meant and she said
Starting point is 00:21:17 I'm not familiar with her knowing anyone specifically in crown point and she's like if she was if she has connections She's like I as the family member was never informed of that fact. So if they are looking at something I don't know what that would be Someone has to know something what that is what the police keep saying But the more and more Jalisa and I talk the more I'm convinced of a couple of things First whoever is responsible for Najah's death knew her well All of her sisters used to share their locations with each other all the time I mean, I told you they were legit crime junkies
Starting point is 00:21:51 Jalisa said that she has one sister who will literally check every single day and be like why are you here? What are you doing? And she's like girl like let me breathe. Well, here's the thing on that Friday that Najah went missing Her location services were turned off But her phone was still on which to me means someone knew that her family would try and track her that way And the other thing that I'm pretty confident about is whatever happened to Najah Happened to her closer to home than to her work It didn't make sense for her to leave that early her coat and her work shoes were still at the house And I'm sure that whatever happened to her more than one person knows about it
Starting point is 00:22:35 Because there was one person driving her car and at least one more driving another car close behind for that person to get Away in now secrets are easy to keep when no one knows about them But someone out there knows a killer's secret and I have to believe it's weighing on them You know, there are three foster kids Najah had that had to go into new homes Her two bio kids are living with family But her oldest son Thomas lost his father six months before Najah went missing So I can't even begin to imagine what he's going through the trauma of losing two parents in less than a year It is something that I can't even wrap my head around
Starting point is 00:23:13 Najah's case isn't classified as a homicide because police can't do that without a cause of death and They can't get that from just a foot But Jalisa says that it's being worked like a murder and her entire family is sure someone malicious took her life But where the rest of her is or who that person is is all still a mystery I actually reached out to Deputy Chief Nugent for a comment and he said, you know He can't give any specifics on an ongoing case but he did say that he's been in contact with crime stoppers to explore new ways to get information out on Najah's case and Unfortunately, the stay-at-home orders that are enacted due to COVID-19 are kind of making it difficult to get exposure for the case
Starting point is 00:23:56 However, in an email he did say that while some of the circumstances surrounding the case have been difficult and frustrating They are never going to give up on Najah or her case Because this is a local case, you can call Crime Stoppers of Central Indiana if you know anything The number is 317-262 Tips and I cannot emphasize enough. I'm still on the board of directors there So I know how it works. There is literally no way for Crime Stoppers people to even know who you are before they pass along the tip to Police, I mean they remove any identifying information and if calling makes you nervous You can also download the app called P3. It lets you do the exact same thing
Starting point is 00:24:37 Anonymously, there's no tracking IP addresses. Nothing. I swear So if you're that person that person that they know is out there who knows something Please please call Crime Stoppers at 317-262 tips The other local story I have for you is eerily similar like there's these weird Kind of parallels. I mean so many of the same elements an abandoned car, grainy surveillance footage and a family still Desperate for justice years later This is the story of Angie Barlow
Starting point is 00:25:14 Now in late 2016 Angie Barlow was this spunky little 19-year-old who was making it on her own in Indianapolis After leaving her small hometown of Muncie, Indiana Angie didn't come from money or have a ton of means and even if she did she was pretty proud She wanted to make her own way in the world and she didn't like taking handouts Part of the way she made her own money was by dancing at a local club here in Indy called Club Rio She met a lot of people their clients acquaintances some good good friends I mean one of her closest friends was a girl named Mona who was also her roommate and Good closest friend isn't even the right term for her. They were basically like you and me but I mean inseparable. They were sisters
Starting point is 00:25:55 so one day Like I said, this is you know late 2016 Angie comes to Mona and she's like look at this I'm getting these weird text messages from a number. I don't know asking if I do private dances So Mona looks at the text exchange and it's from someone who hasn't given a name But who says that she's trying to surprise her husband or her boyfriend for their anniversary and husband or boyfriend It's different depending on what source material you read But this person wanted to surprise her significant other with his private dance now right away Mona sketched out She's like don't do it. It feels off. You don't know them. You don't normally do dance. We don't know and Angie agrees
Starting point is 00:26:33 But this mystery texture is persistent Over weeks and months they keep checking in keep offering and in October of 2016 The offer suddenly seems way more appealing to Angie According to an episode of still missing on investigation discovery Angie had just taken a trip with her friends to Miami And she was hard up for cash So this idea of a private dance to line her pockets and help make rent seemed like an easy way to give herself a little financial Breathing room so she engages with this texture and tells them she's in According to true crime daily the texture asked her if she has any black or red outfits because she wants
Starting point is 00:27:11 Angie's brawn panties to match hers Angie says she does and the woman provides her the address and the gate code to the complex where she's supposed to go So the night of this dance of this party one of the most ominous things I have ever heard about in any story happens Angie does something that so many of us crime junkies have done before literally I've done it before partly as a joke Partly because there's this gut feeling deep down telling us that something is wrong She takes a screenshot of her conversation with this mystery person and Britt. I'm gonna have you read it exactly Mystery person address is redacted gate code is redacted
Starting point is 00:27:51 Angie yes, I have a couple black and red outfits exclamation point Okay, we gone get together you get my address Yes, I did. I will see you tomorrow at 10. I'll call so and then the message gets cut off Yeah, just because the way she did the screenshot not for anything like crazy So the night of this private dance she sends that screenshot to Mona with this message Doing a private party at this address just in case I go missing Lol, and then she adds three laughing emojis. No now This isn't the last time anyone hears from Angie because around 1145 she posts to her snapchat a selfie of her in
Starting point is 00:28:32 what looks like a bathroom and she's all done up and And that is the last time Angie ever makes contact with anyone Now Mona kind of thought she would see Angie at Club Rio later that night She said it'd be normal for Angie to like come meet up with them But she never shows by the next morning when Angie wasn't home and she wasn't responding to any messages from Mona Mona starts to worry. She calls Angie's mom Christina who tells Mona She hasn't even heard from her either and now Christina is worried too So she and her husband get in her car and start making the drive from Muncie to Indy now during this time when Mona can't find Angie
Starting point is 00:29:08 She's like, you know what? I am actually right by the address that she said she was gonna be out I'm just gonna go over there So she told true crime daily that when she got to the complex she tried the gatecode that was in that screenshot But it wouldn't let her in and no one would answer So like a true friend she says f this and she just climbs over the gate and goes to the apartment that she knew Angie was at last night She knocks No answer. She knocks harder. No answer and when she peeps in the window
Starting point is 00:29:38 Chills run down her spine. The place has been Cleaned out. There's nothing and no one inside and this is all wrong. Mona knows that they have to go to police Now it's interesting because two sources from the same outlet kind of conflict The still missing series on ID says that Angie's friends report her missing while an article written by Mike McFadden on ID's crime feed Says that her mom came down from Muncie and she's the one to report her missing But true crime daily says that they both did so I'm just gonna go with that to me That's the most logical explanation. They both report her missing so whatever is correct Angie gets reported missing and because of the disturbing last communications with Mona police are quick to look into this
Starting point is 00:30:22 But even police is quick is sometimes a little too slow for family. So Christina calls the number Angie was texting When she calls and asks the person on the other end if they've seen Angie this female voice says no But Christina doesn't give up. She pushes. She tells her listen. Sometimes she goes by diamond. Have you seen diamond? And then the woman's story begins to change. Oh, yeah Her I know her she was here the other night But she left with some dude around like three o'clock in the morning. This just doesn't feel Right and Christina's instincts are spot-on because what police have learned in the early days of their investigation Will flip this case upside down and make everyone close to Angie sure that something terrible happened to her
Starting point is 00:31:08 Police learn that the apartment Angie went to that night and the phone number that was used to text her both Lead back to two people a woman named Raven owned the phone number And she lived at the apartment Angie was supposed to go to with her boyfriend slash husband Baron Now this is important because Angie knew both Baron and Raven Why do you call him her boyfriend slash husband? Well, because according to reporting done by Fox 59 for their episode 2 of Indie Justice They pulled a marriage certificate for Baron and Raven and it showed that they were married just four Days before the text started coming to Angie's phone for the private dance
Starting point is 00:31:56 so They were husband and wife, but I don't think Angie would have known that even though she knew the couple So how did she know them? so she knew Raven and Baron from Club Rio and the still missing episode purported that Angie and Baron might have had a Thing casual sexual otherwise the Indie Justice actually reports that there's this theory that maybe
Starting point is 00:32:23 Angie and Baron had gotten together there was an STD that was transferred to Raven and Raven was mad But again, that was reported once and police are just calling it a theory now All of this is happening What whatever happened between them their relationship is happening while Baron is with Raven and Raven Hated Angie because of it. So everyone who knows Angie swears up and down There is no way she would have gone to that party if she would have known who was going to be there Police decide to pull security footage from the apartment complex where Angie did the party to see if it tells them anything I mean remember Raven's telling Christina that Angie left with some guy around three o'clock in the morning
Starting point is 00:33:02 Well, when they look at the tape from those early morning hours sure enough They do see Angie's car on tape leaving at 3 29 a.m. But it's not just Angie's car. They see Following close behind is another car Right behind Angie's car and I mean like right behind is another car And it's too dark to see who's driving either vehicle, but police can pull the license plate and they confirm That the car that followed her out was Raven's So police know it's time to bring Raven and Baron in for questioning when they do Raven has the same story
Starting point is 00:33:46 She told Christina she left at 3 a.m. I never saw her again and the cops say okay And to be clear you didn't go anywhere with her and Raven says nope. I stayed home. She left no idea what happened to her So then they dropped the bomb then why is your car seen on video following Angie out of the complex and That is when Raven shuts down and stops cooperating Baron to police have a hundred more questions for them, but they won't talk and This is where for a moment the case looks like it might stall out with no Angie No car no physical evidence and the only two people who last saw her not talking Police needed a big break and they needed it soon. Oh wait
Starting point is 00:34:30 I have a question you said that Angie would have never gone to the party if she knew who was hosting it, right? Right, that's what everyone says but according to the text She was gonna be there at 10 and then she sent that snapchat at like 1145 at the party That to me the least just doesn't add up Well, so police and Angie's family believe that other people were there that night or at least one other person someone who could have Opened the door or let Angie in maybe get her relaxed off her guard before Raven and Baron showed up now This is concerning because this would mean a very clear set up to lead Angie Into God knows what but this would also mean that other people are involved and know what happened that night
Starting point is 00:35:15 Just like I said in our last story secrets don't stay secrets long the more people that know about them So the family decides to start getting the word out and putting pressure on they pass out flyers They're organizing searches anything they can do to make someone come forward But at first no one does according to Mike McBadden Police don't get their first real break until 12 days later when Angie's car is discovered about 8 miles away from the Apartment where she went to that party at and here's the thing about the discovery of her car as opposed to the last story We talked about with Naja's car when they find Angie's car. It's totally Messed up like the outside has crazy damage dense and scratches the inside is just filled with trash
Starting point is 00:36:02 Literally like every floorboard is completely covered here But I'm gonna show you the pictures just to give you a better sense because I heard someone say it and I still wasn't prepared for what I saw Oh my gosh, I you know me I have quite a messy car, but I was not prepared for this. Yeah, I told you I mean in her family says Angie never left her car in any condition even close to that Yeah, I mean there's like looks like medication bottles on the driver's side like floor and CDs everywhere The trunk is packed, but I mean all this stuff here. I have to assume that's like good news like a lot of potential for evidence So I mean I would think so too, but if anything useful was found from the car police haven't released that
Starting point is 00:36:48 I'm sure the family was just holding their breath after it was found thinking okay any day now We're gonna find Angie or make an arrest, but that's not what happened days past They turned into weeks Angie's family keeps searching and longing for her advocates Even make a Facebook page for Angie to help get the word out about her disappearance But even that didn't do anything to help break the case open Christmas comes and goes New Year's Valentine's Day Easter no Angie no arrest no answers and Any chance of getting answers from those who last saw Angie? We're gonna be hard because shortly after Angie went missing both
Starting point is 00:37:28 Baron and Raven up and moved to Phoenix, Arizona what yeah There would only be one more time that Christina would get to confront either of them in January 2017 Christina tells Russ McQuaid from Indie Justice that she gets a call and it's Raven She hasn't spoken to her since their first encounter when Raven tried to night every been seeing Angie But this time Raven was calling her Christina presses her when she has her on the phone She wants to know what was talked about the last time she saw Angie and according to Christina Raven replies. Oh, you want to know what her last words were? What the?
Starting point is 00:38:11 My thoughts exactly This call does nothing but torment an already grieving family who are still no closer to finding Angie and Then in the summer of 2017 when all hope was feeling lost Something shifts was it a guilty conscience someone who finally felt safe now that Raven and Baron were far away Who knows but someone makes an anonymous tip to police about where to find Angie's body The Facebook page for Angie says that the tip came in on the 20th And it led police to the 53rd hundred block of East 43rd Street, which is on the east side of Indianapolis I mapped it because apparently in these two cases, I think I'm gonna solve everything with Google Maps
Starting point is 00:38:57 But it's about a 23 minute drive southwest of the party that Angie went to It took some time before police would make the official confirmation But eventually they announced that they have found Angie Buried in the backyard of a residential home five feet underground Who owned the home? Well, it was a rental and obviously the guy living there got grilled But he was found not to have anything to do with the case. He actually just recently moved in But what's interesting is at the time Angie disappeared the house was vacant Oh, so like anybody could have put her there. Well in theory, yes
Starting point is 00:39:36 But I mean really think about everything we know about post crime behavior If you're going to dispose of a body most people don't go somewhere that they've never been and you especially Don't go to a residential neighborhood hoping that you pick a backyard where no one is home and dig a five-foot hole You have to know that no one lived there and you might know that if your family once rented that home and According to investigation discoveries still missing that was exactly the situation for Baron No, his family used to live in the house where Angie's body was buried. Yep. I'm sorry How much circumstantial evidence do we need to say hey? These are our people. I don't know it feels like police are waiting for an actual
Starting point is 00:40:25 Smoking gun before they make an arrest now most news outlets say that police won't release a cause of death But again that episode 2 of indie justice says that Angie was shot Oh, so they're literally waiting for a smoking gun It seems like it because after her remains are found the circumstantial evidence keeps piling on Though they can't tell when she was buried at the house They do have some proof according to Russ McQuade's reporting that she was transported in a third vehicle Meaning not hers and not Ravens. How do they know that? I have no idea But it makes me wonder if they know specifically
Starting point is 00:41:06 Like who's this third vehicle is and I have a hunch that they do because even though most of the source material I have for this case says that the tipster who led them to the body was anonymous The still missing episode said that police talked to a tipster Who said that they were hired by baron to bury Angie's body Now to be fair they could be two totally separate tipsters But it's just weird that they both have to do with finding the remains Okay, wait, you kind of set this case up like it was unsolved But we have two people who lured her to a place where she was last seen
Starting point is 00:41:45 One of them following her car out of the complex a tipster who says he was hired to bury her They find her remains in the backyard of a home that used to be rented by the family of one of the first two people Who lured her to the party like this doesn't feel unsolved to me But it technically is because no arrest has ever been made The police say that the tipster isn't a reliable witness so they can't use him in court Which to me kind of actually makes me think that he wasn't the person who led them to Angie's body because to me If you did that if you say hey, they hired me to bury her and then you take them to her that seems pretty reliable That feels pretty reliable
Starting point is 00:42:25 So we could be talking about two different people but honestly, I don't know because there seems like so much Other like hugely important circumstantial evidence that you could use to build a case But they just don't think that they have enough And understandably Angie's family is frustrated This october will be four years since she was murdered Her mom has become an active part of the facebook group to find justice for Angie and her post reflects a still grieving mom Who is searching for justice? I mean some days she's angry at those who took her daughter and she's ready to fight posting things like this
Starting point is 00:43:02 She matters her life mattered She did a little bit of everything and excelled at what she did softball basketball volleyball track and field and cheerleading Angelina Barlow was a natural athlete with an amazing ability She was murdered her life was cut short because of two cowards There's a special place waiting for you both Don't think for one minute you're gonna get away with what you did And other days I think are harder for her and the sadness is almost too much to bear and she posts things like this
Starting point is 00:43:35 I hate that I have nightmares all the time This time it was my daughter Angelina Barlow's funeral again It's hard enough to bury them the first time but to relive it constantly can really take a toll on you God I miss her The two people last known to be with Angie still refused to cooperate with police and because they got married Four days before they started texting Angie They won't have to testify against one another should this case ever actually make it to trial But that won't happen unless people out there come forward
Starting point is 00:44:09 Police say that they need cooperation from the public. They need someone to talk Just like in Naja's case, you can submit information on Angie completely anonymously Through Crime Stoppers of Central Indiana that phone number again is 317-262 Tips they have never given up a tipster and they will keep you completely anonymous And if you don't know anything if you've just been touched by these stories and want to help there are a number of ways We are making a donation to Crime Stoppers of Central Indiana You can make a donation as well or you can make a donation to the Justice for Naja site Or you can participate in events that Angie's family does locally. We're going to link out to all of that on our website
Starting point is 00:44:50 Naja and Angie mattered their lives mattered And we can't let people get away with taking these two beautiful souls far too soon If you want access to those links I talked about or if you want to see pictures or access to our source material for this episode You can find all of that information on our website crimejunkiepodcast.com And be sure to follow us on instagram at crimejunkiepodcast. We'll be back next week with a brand new episode Crimejunkie is an audio chuck production. So what do you think Chuck? Do you approve?

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