Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - 2 GORGEOUS GIRLS MISSING: Where are Allahnia and Kiely?

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

Two women are missing, one from Atlanta, Georgia, and one from Truckee, California. Allahnia Lenoir was last seen on July 30th. Her mother says she went to an apartment on Peachtree Street to visit friends and hasn't been seen since. Kiely Rodni was last seen on August 6th after going to a party with about 100 other young adults in California’s Tahoe National Forest near the Prosser Family Campground in Truckee.  Joining Nancy Grace Today: Janette Jackson - Mother of Allahnia Lenoir, Instagram: @finding__fruity John W. Dill, Esquire - Personal Injury Lawyer, Winter Park, Florida, Author: "The Method: Proven Techniques for Winning Jury Trials", www.JohnWDill.com, Twitter/IG @JohnWDillESQ, Represented Michelle Parker's Family Dr. Shari Schwartz - Forensic Psychologist (specializing in Capital Mitigation and Victim Advocacy), PantherMitigation.com, Twitter: @TrialDoc, Author: "Criminal Behavior" and "Where Law and Psychology Intersect: Issues in Legal Psychology" Chris Byers - Former Police Chief Johns Creek Georgia,  25 years as Police Officer, Private Investigator and Polygraph Examiner www.chrisbyersinvestigationsandpolygraph.com Sydney Sumner - Investigative Reporter, CrimeOnline ALLAHNIA LENOIR TIPLINE: Atlanta Police Department Homicide/Adult Missing Person Unit [phone] or BAMFI (Black and Missing Foundation, Inc.) (877) 97-BAMFI  KIELY RODNI TIPLINE: Placer County Sheriff [phone], Option 7 or [e-mail] findkiely.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. On two sides of the country, two devastating disappearances. All the way in Truckee, California and Atlanta, Georgia. We are on the search for two beautiful young girls. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM 111. Does the name Alani Lenore ring a bell? If not before, it will now. Take a listen now to WXIA 11.

The parents of Alani Lenore, or Fruity as she was called by friends, gathered Sunday morning to send a message at the spot where she was last seen. She would not leave, you know, for no reason. There's no reason, so that's why we know she had to have been taken. Alania has been missing since July 30th. According to the Atlanta Police Department, she was last seen in front of this apartment complex on Peachtree Street Northwest. Her mother, Jeanette, says the 24-year-old left her home and went to the complex with a friend. That was the last time, she says, she heard from her daughter. Can you imagine what Alani's mother has been living through in a desperate search for her daughter,

her beautiful young daughter just seemingly vanishing into thin air? Joining me right now, an all-star panel to make sense of what we know. But before I introduce them all, I want to go to Alani's mother, Jeanette Jackson. You can find her on Instagram at finding underscore fruity, her nickname. Ms. Jackson, thank you for being with us. Thank you for having me. And thank you for continually saying my daughter's name. You know, Ms. Jackson, I have a daughter and a son, and I cannot imagine the hell you're going

through right now. I will say her name as long as you want me to. We all will to help you get some kind of answer. When did you realize something was wrong that you had no idea where Alani was? Sunday, July, I believe that was July 30th. I'm sorry, everything is starting to mix, you know, for so many days. But Sunday, I got a call, you know, was she home? So I didn't really think nothing of it because I knew she had plans and we communicate very well. But Monday, I knew then it was a problem because she's, you know, we communicate a lot.

And that's when Monday, I just really started paving the pavement and trying to get police to do something. I'm trying to understand that where you live versus where Alani lived. Alani is just 24 years old at the time she disappeared. And that's been a few weeks now. Tell me where you live in relation to Alani. Okay.

So that's an error that I'm glad glad you asked so my daughter lives i live in douglasville and that's where she she lives with me so that's why i know she's missing she went to this location to visit you know these friends so she lives with you she lives with me okay i was i was trying to figure out you were saying that y'all are always in communication. Now I know why. You live together. Yeah, we live together. Okay, so when you're apart, do you stay in touch by texting and calling? Yeah, we text, we Twitter, we TikTok.

You know, we're constantly, you know, communicating. And if she's not going to come home, she lets me know where. And we also share location so that's why i knew her last location oh you share location i love that yes location whenever i get worried about the twins i can do life 360 or share location and i know everything is okay very comforting so on that day uh july 30 just a couple of weeks ago, were you when you didn't hear from her? Did you check her location? I did. So that was the last known location where she disappeared from is the last location I got. I understand that. Guys, take a listen to our friend Jeff Hollinger, WXIA. 24-year-old Alana Lanier was last seen along the

1600 block of Peachtree Street in northeast Atlanta on July 30th. That's right across from where Peachtree intersects with Buford Highway. She stands five feet, four inches tall. She has brown hair, brown eyes, last seen wearing a blue shirt, blue shorts, cream-colored shoes. If you think you can help, call 911 or atlanta police now family and friends believe that she was abducted from her apartment at that location they plan to hold a vigil tomorrow morning at 10 a.m in front of the apartment building also at 1600 peachtree street northeast let me understand something back to you this is alani's mom jeanette jackson joining us. He said Peachtree and Beaufort Highway. I thought it was Peachtree and about 17th.

Correct. It's 1660. Peachtree is the actual place where she was at. Is that around Peachtree and 17th? Yeah, it's pretty close, yeah. Because the location is very, very important. Where she was last seen, who she was last with. Are there surveillance cameras? Is it a business?

Is it a gas station? Is it a convenience store? Is it the High Museum a couple of blocks south of there? I mean, all of this matters in finding out what happened to this beautiful young girl. I mean, think about it. Every morning, this is mom's morning star, her little girl, her baby, her joy, her pride. And now out of nowhere, she's gone and there are no answers. Can you imagine that moment? Mom is looking at Life360 360 find my iPhone sharing locations

can't find let me ask you Ms. Jeanette Jackson did her when you call her phone did it go straight to voicemail? Yes ma'am.

Oh I hate that. I hate that so much. With me CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter Sydney Sumner. Sydney thank you for being with us.

We don't know a lot but just give me the bare bones of what we know right now about Alani's disappearance. And guys Sydney Sumner. Sydney, thank you for being with us. We don't know a lot, but just give you the bare bones of what we know right now about Alani's disappearance. And guys, the tip line is 404-546-4235. Repeat, 404-545-4235. Go ahead, Sydney. Well, we know that Alani was with a friend on the night of July 30th, and we believe that they were going to this apartment complex. What? You mean a friend man, a boyfriend or friend boy what?

A girlfriend. She was with her girlfriend, and they were meeting some friends at this apartment complex, and that's where Alani was last seen in the complex or outside on the street in the parking lot in her car do we know that Sidney Sumner I don't think we know that hey maybe mom knows Jeanette Jackson what do you know I do know tell me she went inside this building the uh building has lots of cameras and video which I have not been allowed to see. And the only thing that I can say is that they have been able to confirm that my daughter went inside this specific apartment with these three other people who have three different stories.

No, N-O. With me, high profile lawyer. I'm sure you've heard his name before, out of Winter Park, Florida, John Deal, author of The Method, Proven Techniques for Winning Jury Trials. You can find him at johnwdeal.com. John, thank you for being with us. Glad to be here. You know what I love? I love it when three people are together and they all have a different story of what happened in like, let's just say 30 minute time span.

Now, okay, I accept that witnesses, different witnesses stories are never going to be the same. For instance, if I were to tell you what has happened today in the studio, it would be a very different story than Jackie's, what she's doing to man the boards and technically make everything work beautifully like she does. We have two very different stories. However, upon questioning, at some point, those stories should jive, should they not, John Deal?

Correct. I mean, the biggest problem, I think, is when you have a circumstance like this, this is mysterious, you know, three different stories. Obviously, there's the truth in there somewhere. And the very fact that the stories vary, if I'm an investigator, I'm wanting to get them each separate, have them not communicating, trying to figure out exactly everybody's stories, and how does that match up with the physical evidence. Thankfully, there's video cameras and that type of thing. But, yeah, that's a major red flag. Well put, because then once you, and I don't mean coach the witnesses.

You know, when lawyers try to coach witnesses, it always comes out on cross. Correct. Have you been coached? Did you talk to other witnesses? Did somebody tell you what to say? Don't ever coach a witness. Let them say what they remember. But once you can piece together their stories from their different vantage points

and their personal POV point of view, then you have to reconcile it with something that's not going to change. That's a hard evidence like DNA, like video surveillance. Hey, quick question to Ms. Jeanette Jackson joining us. This is Alani's mom. Is there a lobby in that apartment building? I assume it's a high-rise? It is. It's like student. It appears to be student housing of some sort. Student housing.

That would have to either be Georgia Tech or SCAD. They're right next to SCAD. They are literally. Yes, you are. A lot of students are,AD they are a lot of students are you know a lot of young women in that building is there a lobby or do you just walk straight in and get on the elevator you can walk in is there a doorman no did you say you were able to what just walk straight I was able to walk in and go through each floor and not and go even into places in that building That's bad. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. crime stories with nancy grace empty like you could just go in there chris byers joining me former police chief john's creek

25 years on the force now pi and polygrapher at chris byers investigations and polygraph BuyersInvestigationsAndPolygraph.com. Chris, that's bad. In the sense of trying to determine what happened to Alani, where is she? If you can just walk in and there's not a key card, the front door is unsecured, you just walk in and get on the elevator and go wherever you please, some nut off the street could do that. Yeah, absolutely. That's just asking for trouble, especially in an area like that. And like you said, it's directly across the street.

I'm looking at the map now from SCAD. Tons of students. I think she said besides SCAD. Yeah, yeah, it is. It's right. Looks like it's right next to it. Yeah, I mean, that's just, like I said, asking for trouble when there's no control, there's no lobby that you come into so that everybody is seen on a camera. Or for Pete's sake,

just a key card. Yeah, absolutely. Just some form of protection. And you know, another thing, Chris Byers, you're the former police chief. Why in the H-A-Y, why the hay aren't they allowing Ms. Jackson to see that video surveillance? Yeah, I don't agree with that. I was always told my investigators be very open and transparent with the families. There's no reason that she should not be allowed to see that video evidence. Absolutely not. No reason at all. I want to go to Dr. Sherry Schwartz joining us, renowned psychologist, a forensic psychologist, author of Criminal Behavior and Where Law and

Psychology Intersect. Dr. Sherry, you know, we think that there is safety in numbers. That's not always true. You've got Alani with her friend, but somehow she goes missing. That reminds me of Natalie Holloway. She was with her friends down there in Aruba, and suddenly, boom, they get separated, and then she goes missing. She's never been found. There's, I mean, yes, it's better to go in a group, but once you separate, all hell can break loose. That is so true, Nancy. And the thing is,

and I teach this to my college students too, based a lot on your work in victim advocacy, is that we really are no match for a predatory individual or group of individuals. Because when you are going about your daily life, being a law-abiding good person, who's just looking to hang out with your friends, and you're not looking to doabiding good person who's just looking to hang out with your friends, and you're not looking to do someone else harm, it's really hard to fathom that there are people out there who are hunting you to possibly do you harm. It's really hard to take that, and I try to explain that to my twins. They're 14, but they're too young to really grasp that.

And I think most of us as adults, we don't like to think that there can be a predator behind every tree for Pete's sake, but absolutely. The reality is there are predators out there and we as trusting humans don't always identify them. Okay. So I've got three people with different stories, But let me first start with who is Alani? Who is Alani Lenore? Take a listen to our friend Madeline Montgomery at CBS 46. Friends and family tell CBS 46 that Atlanta police are investigating the disappearance as suspicious. This is not her behavior.

She would not leave, you know, for no reason. There's no reason. So that's why we know she had to have been taken. So her parents are pleading with the people who have her. We ask you to please allow us to see our daughter again. Allow us to know the outcome of her well-being. Jeanette Jackson is with us. And do you know how much it hurts her to go through these facts again with me with a fine tooth comb? It hurts a lot, but she's doing it to try to find her daughter. Won't you help us? You know, I heard you just say that this is not her behavior. She would not leave for no reason. And that's how we know she was taken. Explain to me her behavior.

Like, my son, if I say, you want to go out for, yes. If I say to my daughter, do you want to go, no. She wants to stay home curled up, writing in her journal, watching Gossip Girl, but whatever she's doing, I know their behavior like the back of my hand. Tell me about Alani's behavior. Why is this not like her to just leave and not tell you? Well, the main thing is that we are close. We are super close.

And everybody who's her friend or knows her is also super close with her. So there is no reason for her to leave when she loves us and her life. She doesn't have any reason to get up and go. Tell me about her life. What was she doing? Why was she near SCAD, Savannah College of Art and Design? The reason she went there, she went with a friend there to go meet some friends. The friend girl?

Yeah, the girlfriend, yes. Okay, how does she know this friend? She's actually my granddaughter's mother. Okay, so they're related. Yeah, so we're related. Okay, so you know her. How old is she? She's 21. Is she a student?

Not at this time, no. I don't think she's going to school. I just got that in my head because she's around GSU, Georgia Tech, SCAD. It's all right there. Yeah. Where she goes missing. And this may have actually been at least partially student housing. That's why I had that in my head. And what did Alani want to do for a career? She wanted to do cooking. Eventually, that's what we were going to. We were working on getting her a food truck. Everybody who knows her knows she loves to cook. What was her specialty?

She loved like sushi meals. So she was into that kind of cuisine, like Asian cuisine. Just thinking about Alani and that evening last seen July 30. Now, Miss Jeanette Jackson, you stated that the three people with her, one being

a relative, a female relative, 21 years old, have three different stories. Who are the other two? Who are they? They're the two gentlemen who own the apartment. So her and my daughter went to go see these two gentlemen and have fun for the night. I don't know if their plan was to go out or what. Who are they? What do they do? Are they students? Do they have jobs? What can you tell me about them? Like, I don't know them, but from what I've

now gathered between internet and people who know they're not good people okay a couple of quick questions have they taken polygraphs do you know no i don't think so has their apartment been examined forensically because of the as far as i know a search warrant has finally been issued and they did do a search warrant i don't like that word finally because the longer you delay John Deal would you agree the less likely you're going to get good evidence. Oh absolutely I mean especially when people are aware they may be under the microscope it becomes problematic. What do those two guys say Ms. Jackson about Alani? Well they had conflicting stories but basically the timeline in which they say they came and left and and left her there at

the apartment on her own uh doesn't add up it doesn't add up like if you just met my daughter or you guys were just becoming friends why would you leave somebody in your apartment alone who does that well where's the friend girl where was she during all this? She left her there. Oh, okay. Whoa, wait a minute. So, no offense to you, but your 21-year-old relative left Alani alone in that apartment? Correct. Why? I would love to know why. She won't tell you? It's been a thousand stories of the why.

Give me one. She wanted to stay there. Why would you want to stay in somebody's apartment that you don't know? Exactly. When she was her age. Okay. And what's another story you don't know? Exactly. When she was her right. Okay. And what's another story? Just go along with me.

What's another story? Another story was just I was supposed to come back and get her. That's why I left. I went to go do something. Both of those could be true. Okay. Why does a 21-year-old say she left? Did she go to the grocery store?

Did she go to the liquor store? Did she go fill her car up with gas? Did she go to a club planning to come back? She had her boyfriend pick her up. So she left with her boyfriend to go where? I would love to know. See, I don't like the vagary. You know, Chris Byers with me, former police chief, Johns Creek, 25 years on the force, now PI and polygrapher. I want to know every fact. What time did you leave? Why did you leave her there? I mean, if you wanted to go out to a club and she didn't want to go, fine.

Tell me. I don't care. I'm just trying to understand the facts. I'm not judging. I just want to know. So when somebody won't tell me, Chris Byers, that makes me think that there's some nefarious reason they're not telling me. Yeah, absolutely. As an investigator, that's exactly what I would be thinking as well. If you've got nothing to hide, especially, you

know, it's gone this long. Everybody needs to be telling the truth to get her home. So yeah, I'd be extremely suspicious of everybody involved in this right now. To Ms. Jeanette Jackson, the mother of Alani Lenore, last seen July 30, on video surveillance, going into an apartment building on Peachtree Street, right there in front of God and everybody, but then is never seen again. Are you understanding, Ms. Jackson, that the video surveillance does not show Alani ever leaving that apartment? That's what I'm, yes, correct. Okay, how can that be?

How can that be John Deal, a high-profile lawyer joining us out of Winter Park. It's happened. I remember the one case of Annie Lee. Right. It wasn't Annie's last name. She, brilliant researcher, goes into, it was Ivy League College too, goes into her research job. There's a fire drill unplanned.

Everybody leaves, but she's never seen leaving. She was found in the wall. I mean, there have been cases like that. You know, maybe there's a way out that's not under surveillance. There are innocent reasons too. Correct. But that she has not been spotted leaving, it all goes back to that building. Right. Right. That's again, you know, we have stories and then we have, you know, actual evidence that, you know, somebody somewhere either through, you know, cell phone pings of the two gentlemen or whoever was there, if she didn't go in and then you have to narrow it down, well, if she didn't go in, where could she have gone out?

Who had access to that? Who had access to come in? And especially in an area like this, assuming if the two gentlemen aren't involved, I mean, college areas are ripe for issues of people coming in. And you know that from all the cases that we've had through the years about college towns and college areas. But that's where the focus, I would think, from an investigator would be. And you know what else? And I want Dr. Sherry Schwartz and investigator Chris Byers to weigh in. These aren't some grubby student housing apartments. These are luxe. Take a listen to our cut 17, our friends at CBS 46. Alani Lenore, Fruity, Cece, all names to describe a beloved 24-year-old from Douglasville.

People who are seeing this, don't stop saying my daughter's name. Alani was last seen at a friend's place at the 1660 Luxury Apartments on Peachtree Street in Midtown Atlanta. But that was a week ago. Now try to imagine yourself not hearing from your loved one for that length amount of time. It's a nightmare. You know, I'm curious, Dr. Sherry Schwartz, when you hear luxury apartment building, you think you're safe, but obviously you're not.

Dr. Sherry, that's a misconception. Yes, apparently so. And when I first heard Ms. Jackson say that a lot of students live there, and she said a lot of female students live there, and that there's no security to speak of that's alarming you know a building like that where you know in particular you have a lot of young people who you know not that they're doing anything wrong they're doing

what young people do they're they're gathering they're having parties there might be alcohol you know things like that I would think think that whoever runs that building would take security very, very seriously. Guys, we are talking about the disappearance of a beautiful young girl, Alani Lenore, out of Atlanta, Georgia, and one of the ripsiest areas right down the street from the High Museum. Where is Alani? To her mother, Ms. Jeanette Jackson, what are cops telling you now? Right now, they just reassigned another detective who handles complex cases. I guess that's what they call it.

They weren't very forthcoming until I showed up to somebody from the city who helped me get to a meeting, to a public safety meeting to even get back. When I originally kept going to the police station, I was not getting any help. Very little help and very little communication. They are saying that they are investigating, that they are looking at these three people, that exactly what I told you, the stories aren't exactly the same, the pins match this place,

and that they are looking at lots of video, that that's why they won't let me see what's going on. If you have information the tip line 404-546-4235 404-546-4235 miss jackson you and alani are in our prayers Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. And now we turn and head across the country to another gorgeous young girl missing. Take a listen to our friends at ABC 10. Placer County deputies posted this just hours ago. They're searching for 16-year-old Kylie Rodney.

She was last seen at a party near the Prosser family campground in Truckee. Deputies have set up a tip line and are now calling this an abduction. Also missing, Kylie's car, a silver 2013 Honda CRV, California license plate, 8YUR127. Her phone has been out of service since the party. I just, we just want her home. We're so scared and we miss her so much and we love her so much. And Kylie, we love you. And if you see this, please just come home. I want nothing more than to hug you. And if anybody else out there, if you know where she is,

if you know anything about where she might be, if you have any ideas or thoughts thoughts please um please come forward and share them and and we're not looking to like bust anybody else or get anybody in trouble we just want to see our daughter home when she says and you're hearing her mother speaking when she said i want to bust anybody or get anybody in trouble to sy Sydney Sumner joining us, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter, Kylie was at a big party, like a graduation party. There were like 200 or 300 students and friends there. Somebody had to see something.

I don't want to get anybody in any trouble either, but I want to find this girl. Tell me what happened Sydney yeah so the timeline for that night is that Kylie was at this party she spent most of the night with her friend her girlfriend Sammy Smith and Smith actually left before Kylie and that's apparently the last time anyone can confirm that they saw Kylie after Sammy left. So let me understand. She goes to the party with the friend. What's the friend's name?

Sammy? Sammy Smith. And she doesn't leave with Sammy, right? No. Sammy goes home by herself and leaves Kylie there in good spirit. Why? I don't think they were writing together. Okay, so Kylie wanted to stay.

All right. They weren't writing together. That's an important fact. Right. And let me understand. Where is this? Okay, so Kylie wanted to stay. All right, they weren't riding together. That's an important fact. And let me understand, where is this? Where did this happen? Where is Truckee, California?

Yeah, I've actually driven through Truckee a couple of times. It's right on the way if you're trying to get from Reno to Lake Tahoe. So it's basically the city that's right on the border in between California and Nevada. It's really small. I remember seeing a gas station. I think the population is less than 20,000 people. Wow. Okay.

See, that's so important. That's so important because it reduces the potential number of suspects, although it is in that stretch from Reno to Lake Tahoe. So you do get a lot of people going back and forth through there. What kind of party was this, Sydney Sumner? It was at a campground. So it's actually at the Prosser Family Campground a little bit north of the city. The what? The Prosser Family Campground is where this party was. So it was a little bit north of the city, Truckee, right next to Lake Prosser. And yeah, it seems like it was a huge party there were kids coming out from san francisco apparently what kind of party was it sydney sumner apparently it was a senior farewell party so you have juniors seniors college kids at this party okay so apparently everybody did not know

everyone else take a listen now to our cut five our our frenzy, K-O-V-R. Here is a look at Kylie Rodney, 16 years old, 5'7", 118 pounds, blonde hair. And Placer County Sheriff's Office says they're treating this like an abduction because her car also has not been found. But let's show you some video from around this area where volunteers and search and rescue crews have been scouring the entire area around Prosser Campground where she was last seen at about midnight Friday. She was at a senior farewell party. Senior farewell party. You are hearing our friends at KOVR. Now listen to our friends at ABC10. Kylie Rodney was last seen at a party here at the Prosser family campgrounds. About 100 people were there. And I want to show you what this area looks like so you can understand what authorities are up against when it comes to the search this morning. This is a heavily wooded area,

a large body of water is here at the campgrounds, and they're looking up and down throughout this area trying to find her. This 16-year-old girl disappeared from the party. Her silver 2013 Honda CRV is also missing, and her phone has been out of service since the party. According to the sheriff's office, the Honda has a California license plate. California license plate, car missing, cell phone out of service since she left the party. Is that correct, Sydney Sumner? Yes, that is correct. After she sent a text to her mother that she was coming home from the party at about 12.15 a.m. on Saturday, her phone goes silent, and we haven't heard from it since.

Again with me, an all-star panel to try to break down what we know right now. To Chris Byers, former police chief, Johns Creek. What do you think? I think that they are treating this correct and looking at an abduction and not just a missing person, which is huge. So hats off to the sheriff's department for treating this right, not trying to not trying to minimize what's going on. You know, you always start looking where where she was last seen and go outward. But I agree with the sheriff's Department with the car missing as well. I would definitely be looking at this like an abduction. You know, from my understanding to Dr. Sherry Schwartz joining me, forensic psychologist, apparently there weren't just the invitees there.

Word got out. And apparently, friends are saying a lot of older guys showed up and were trying to get the younger girls drunk. I mean, this little girl, Kylie Rodney, is just 16 years old. Yes. And as I was listening, Nancy, I wondered, you know, did this go out on social media, right? Because this is how so many of us communicate nowadays, right? And so even if somebody's at the party posting or, you know, doing a live TikTok or Insta story, and there's people in the area, they come on by. There's people that maybe plan to be there because they saw it on social media.

And hey, there's going to be high school girls there and maybe some college girls there. So it's one of those things that can get out of control fast. And then it makes it even harder. Yeah. And we have a big time gap before she's reported missing.

Take a listen to our friend ZKOVR. We also had the opportunity to talk to her mother of a very difficult time for her mom. It was at 1130. She told me that she was leaving in 45 minutes and going to be on her way home. I'm a terrible mother. I slept. I said, you know, wake me up when you come home. And then I woke up at 8 a.m. and

realized she hadn't woken me up she's so so responsible she always checks in she always texts me when she's out and lets me know even checking in multiple times a night even when she's out with friends so the behavioral evidence is that she always texts mom or friends. But as of that night, everything goes radio silent. So we, John Deal, now have an eight hour gap. Correct. From the time she texts mom at 1215 to eight o'clock that morning, mom wakes up and realizes she's not there. That hurts the case. Yes.

Fortunately, though there there's two things that they're going to be looking at very carefully obviously the cell phone even though it wasn't responded it may still be pinging kind of like in the michelle parker case and then most importantly is the car i mean if this went on a highway anywhere if it went into nevada that can be found at least its location somehow through different cameras it can be tracked down what if the cell phone is underwater well that's another concern found at least its location somehow through different cameras that can be tracked down what if the cell phone is underwater well that's another concern but at least they know

when it last pinged exactly so that would be you know the timing of it as to where it would last pinged or was last operative is a critical piece in the investigation yeah and we don't know that but we do know this there's no amberious. Take a listen to our cut seven, friends at KOVR. The CHP has not issued an Amber Alert in this case because they are saying that this is not a credible abduction at this point. They have no proof, according to their own threshold, that this, in fact, is an abduction. The Placer County Sheriff, they're saying that they are treating this as if she has been abducted because they can't find her vehicle. And as a result of treating it that way and putting this out there in that manner, the FBI is now also involved in the search for Kylie

Rodney right now. Interesting. It takes a lot to get the FBI involved. Take a listen to this. The last person to speak to her by phone was her friend Sammy Smith, who was with her at the party. That somebody else was involved is my main concern, and I think a lot of people of Truckee and Tahoe feel the same way, just that there was somebody else involved because they haven't found a car yet. They've done helicopter searches over Prosser and all of Truckee. Everybody's looking everywhere constantly for her and her car. Well, the Placer County Sheriff's Office released a photo of the type of car that Rodney owned and would have been driving. It's a 2013 Honda CRV. So we now know that she spoke to someone after speaking to her mom.

That someone is Sammy Smith, who is now dedicating herself to the search. Listen. Sammy Smith, one of Kylie's good good friends is organizing crews of community members who are looking for the teen across the tahoe region glenshire these flyers are posted in neighborhoods downtown truckee and at campsites so this is where everybody's hanging out kylie and i were meeting up right here a lot local young people call this open area near the prosser family campground the sanctuary it's a common place for parties. Sammy says she was here with Kylie Friday night, along with tons of other high school and college kids from the Bay Area all the way to Nevada. The search for Kylie Rodney goes on. Tip line 530-581-6320. Goodbye, friend.