Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - BOMBSHELL: STATE V. D4VD AKA DAVID ANTHONY BURKE
Episode Date: February 16, 2026D4vd's family is fighting grand jury subpoenas related to the death of teen Celest Rivas Hernandez, whose body was found in his, David Anthony Burke's abandoned Tesla. D4vd's mother, father, and broth...er were subpoenaed, and now they claim their rights are being violated. The case is being investigated in California. The Burke family lives in Texas. The matter will be taken up during another hearing on Febuary 24. Joining Nancy Grace today: Jo-Anna Nieves - Criminal Defense Attorney and Founder of The Nieves Law Firm; Instagram, Facebook and X: nieveslawfirm, YouTube and TikTok: thenieveslawfirm Steve Fischer - Missing Persons Private Investigator, Search & Rescue Specialist, & Owner of Search Investigations; (hired by the owner of the Hollywood Hills property where D4vd had been staying to look into this case); Facebook: SearchInvestigations, X: @SF_Investigates Dave Mack - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories' See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Breaking news, bombshell, State versus D4VD,
aka David Anthony Burke,
as it relates to the death of a little teen girl,
Celeste Rivas, found in the trunk of D4VD,
David Anthony Burke's Tesla.
What's taking so long?
long. But now we have seen a court document that says state versus David Anthony Burke. You know about
that secret grand jury proceeding that was just an investigative tool looking into the death
of Celeste Rivas? No, David Anthony Burke is named as the official defendant. Good evening.
I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
an all-star panel to make sense of what we are learning right now, but I've got it in front of me.
Dave Mack, explain what we found. Well, when you look at this, at the documentation from the state of
California, Nancy, it flat out says something that we've long thought was the case. But it actually,
the bombshell, the people of the state of California versus David Anthony Burke. See, we thought,
know, it was just an investigation because that's what they said, an investigation into the death
of Celeste Rivas Hernandez. However, this document proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, legal paperwork
that says the state of California versus David Anthony Burke.
Now, what's interesting in this particular court document and what it is is an appeal to
the Court of Appeals there in Texas, the reason it's in Texas is because his
family. Burke's family is in Texas and they are appealing a subpoena to come to the grand jury.
Now, the title of that document is in the Court of Appeals for the First District of Texas,
in Ray Dawood Burke. Okay, what does that mean in the matter of Dawood Burke?
But in a footnote, in a footnote in this document, you see, the people of
the state of California versus David Burke.
Okay.
I'm going to get back to everything else we are learning, but I'm going to go straight out
to a veteran trial lawyer.
Joanna Nievis is joining us from California, criminal defense attorney and founder of the
Nievese law firm.
Joanna, thank you for being with us.
So this is what's happening to my understanding and you jump in.
Joanna, the family of the 4VD, David Anthony.
Burke, pronounced as David, has been subpoenaed the whole family to testify in a grand jury proceeding
regarding the death of Celeste Rivas, the little girl found in Burke's trunk. Let's see that,
Tesla. It was parked in spot to spot to spot on a post street there in California until it was
finally towed at the behest of one of the homeowners. Days sitting at the tow lot and it started a stench.
Why? Because Celeste Rivas was decomposing in the trunk. We were told there is an investigative
grand jury. Nevis, I believe you will agree with me that grand juries have two tools, one,
a charging tool to indict people and one an investigation tool. For instance, in the John Bonnet
Ramsey case, in the Ramsey case, the grand jury met and they met and they met and they met
investigating John Bonnet's death. They ultimately
did issue an indictment, but that case was not prosecuted. So a grand jury can meet to investigate.
They have subpoena power. They can bring in witnesses. Or they can charge. We were told this
was an investigation into Celeste's death. Now we have an official court document filed by the
parents contesting them having to come from Texas to California to testify in state v. David
Anthony Burke. So a case against him.
a case investigating him does exist.
Explain what's happening, Joanna.
Right, Nancy.
So I do believe that it does outline what the target of this investigation is.
It's not just trying to uncover who it may be and get more information.
Obviously, they're trying to focus their energies on identifying, incriminating information
against this particular person that's named in the footnote there in the charging document,
assuming that that was cited properly.
I would guess that they took that from the grand jury subpoena that was received.
The filing itself, I think, is kind of more procedural, right?
They're in Texas.
This is happening in California.
And it's their attempt to say, you know what, I don't really feel like California can drag me over there based on this subpoena.
And I want a court to say that, yes, absolutely, you have to, you have the authority to make me come and testify.
So I think it's kind of like one of those procedural things where you're,
contesting the validity of a confidential informant or you're contesting the validity of a warrant
or the validity of a search. They're really just saying, hey, just make sure that you really do
have the arms reach to make me come from Texas to California here. Specifically, what they are
arguing is DeWood Burke, the father, D. Forfeity's mother, Colleen, and his brother Caleb all
summoned to testify at a California grand jury. Now, they are
contesting that claiming their rights have been violated. Why do they claim their rights were
violated? They claim that they were given redacted versions of affidavits that were used in the court
order summoning them to be witnesses. Okay. Really? Celeste, a little girl, a teen girl,
decomposing and their sons Tesla and they're claiming their rights were violated.
Silent tear.
Because the affidavit supporting that warrant, that subpoena for them, had a name redacted.
That's the leg they're standing on.
Good luck.
I think we see this pretty often, though, like, hey, there are rules that you have to follow.
there is information that we need.
Give me proper notice.
That's the basis of so many arguments.
Even when I just mentioned like a confidential informant,
oftentimes that kind of objection to the information
is based on not being able to see what was in the affidavit
that was drafted by the police officer.
Or even when contesting a search warrant,
we see this pretty often.
So I don't think that they are making absurd arguments.
I do think they're just trying to protect their interests
and of course the interests of their son at this point.
because he's still innocent until proving guilty.
I was waiting for you to say that, but this is not an adjudication of guilt or innocence.
This is telling a witness you must come to the grand jury.
And yes, notice must be proper.
In other words, they have to be served with a subpoena properly.
There has to be a date, a location, the name of the matter to which they will testify.
but the fact that names have been redacted in the affidavit, they don't even have to see an affidavit,
all right?
But they do have an affidavit to support the subpoena.
The fact that they got noticed correctly, there is the name of the matter to which they will end up
testifying to.
That's what they need.
It was registered.
It was certified.
They don't need to know the state's case, and they don't need to know sensitive information
such as names that are in the affidavit.
That is not required under the law.
Yes, you're right they have to have notice.
Yes, you're right.
They have to know what the matter is on which they will testify.
But that's it.
So they don't have a leg to stand on.
But I'm very curious.
talk about privilege, such as attorney-client privilege. I'm sure that your clients speak very
openly with you. They may even confess. They may prejudice themselves in front of you because
you're their trusted lawyer and your duty is or you will be disbarred if you violate the
attorney-client privilege, right? The rest of your life, you may not speak of it. That's the duty
of a lawyer. I have the same duty. So you've got the attorney-client privilege. You've got priest,
parishioner privilege, such as what you tell to your preacher, your priest, your count, your
religious counselor, your rabbi. That cannot be forced in court. The rabbi, the priest,
cannot be forced to divulge what the defendant said. You've got husband-wife privilege. There are several
privileges. But he's my daddy. Ain't one of them, Nevis. No, for sure. But, you know, I do think
there's word that David's dad does have some type of affiliation with the church. And I do wonder
whether or not he may take some time to stand that his son has... What did you just say?
...him from that perspective. I thought you were going to hit me with the fact that his father's a lawyer.
so he could try to use attorney-client privilege.
His dad is a lawyer.
But you're going, he has an affiliation with the church.
What affiliation would that be?
He drives by it on Sunday mornings?
You know, and here, all of this is all reported, right?
It's reported that he's some type of reverend with the church.
Okay.
You know what?
There's a reason you win so many cases.
See, she's smart.
She's articulate.
it. And she says things like that. And you almost believe it. He has some affiliation with a church.
You just said that. Okay. So you're going from the angle that it is a priest, parishioner privilege.
Is that correct? It's an angle. I don't know that they're really actually going to go with it.
But maybe some of the conversations that have happened, if there really is this sort of affiliation, could fall.
under those protections. No, he doesn't have a father's son privilege. And maybe he has consulted
his father in an attorney-client way. But we do know that he is-
I shouldn't have given you that idea. I gave her a bunch of running with it. Okay. Well, you know
what? You're not half wrong, Joanna, as much grief as I'm giving you. Remember when Rosie Greer,
the football player, went and counseled O.J. Simpson behind bars. And according to the sheriff,
Simpson confessed, that was kept away from the jury under the same theory you're using right now.
Greer was some kind of a counselor or pastor, some affiliation with the church, and it worked.
The jury never heard that O.J. Simpson confession. So, you know what? Maybe he has a leg to stand on
with the dad, but what about the mom, Colleen, and the brother? Okay, I can't wait to hear this.
Did they drive by the church on Sunday morning too? Well, you know, here's the thing with that.
we really don't know how much they know.
They're living in another state.
David is living in California.
I mean, what do they know that he's hanging out with Celeste?
Do they really have any details about whether or not there was a relationship?
I'm still waiting to hear proof or some sort of evidence that he was in a relationship
that was inappropriate besides contributing to the delinquency of a minor and, you know,
maybe doing drugs and drinking alcohol, which we can kind of gather from these photos.
So there may have been an inappropriate relation to the extent that he was doing things that he should not have been doing, like engaging in abuses of substances, giving her alcohol.
But whether or not there was a sexual relationship, we don't know that.
I have heard no recordings besides suspicions that there's any proof regarding that.
Steve Fisher joining me right now, the man of the hour.
He is a missing person's private investigator search and rescue specialist, and he was hired
by the owner of the mansion where a D4VD was living to basically find out what the
hay happened.
Could you refresh Joanna Nievesse's recollection regarding the relationship that you have
cobbled together?
through photos. I know you were not in the room when any alleged sex activity occurred,
which would be statutory rape because she's a child. But you've seen a lot of photos. You even
recovered a photo stick that the LAPD left behind in their wisdom. Tell me what relationship
based on the photos that you have seen and what you have learned, what was the relationship
between D4VD and this little girl, Celeste Rivas.
Well, I'm certain that one thing that's become very apparent is he was aware when cameras around
and he made her aware of not to be in front of the camera.
It's very, very apparent because, you know, she's captured in so few, you know, photos,
although we know we have other evidence that they link her there.
But is there direct evidence?
I mean, I think this is one thing that's worried me about this case is that,
because it's at the very highest level of the, of the, the, um, um, D.A's office.
These are the DAs that prosecute, you know, homicides and stuff.
Will they, if they can't meet that threshold, will they go after the sex crime?
I don't know. I don't know if they will.
And, um, that, that worries me when he, when David said, I can tell you right now, they won't.
Yeah, right.
I can tell you right now.
that sex assault will likely not be part of the claims against D4VD, aka David Anthony Burke,
and this is why. Celeste is dead. David Anthony Burke will likely never take the stand.
And without any DNA from her body or her eyewitness testimony as a victim,
it won't be a, you can't prove it. If there is a witness that walked in on them in any,
sex act, maybe they've got a leg to stand on. Okay? And there were so many people in and out of
that house, as you know, that may very well have happened. If anyone ever saw him kiss her on
the mouth, if there are any texts that surface, romantic, or sexual texts between them,
we may be able to get a charge on indecent exposure, a lewd act.
But the state doesn't want to include a count that is weak because it will then dilute a murder charge or a homicide charge if it's not murder one.
I would not put that in my indictment if I were indicting this case.
I might believe it.
I might know it to be true.
But unless I have a witness, they can tell me they observe D4VD having full on sex with Celeste Rivas.
I would not put that in the indictment.
If I've got someone or text proving something else, kissing, fondling, sexual text,
anything like that, I would go with delinquency to a minor or child molestation or lewd acts.
I wouldn't do anything that would dilute the most important charge,
and that would be homicide.
In fact, I believe I would have one count of homicide.
if I were prosecuting this case. Maybe account a mutilation to a corpse, which means hiding the
corpse, burying the corpse, tampering with the corpse, because those are going to be provable
according to reports. Now, Steve Fisher, we've got this document proving in a footnote,
you have to read it very carefully, that there is a grand jury investigation state v. David
Anthony Burke. What you're seeing right there is from
the family contesting their subpoenas. We can only imagine what he may have told them what they know
about this case. But they're going to have to testify. Just because you move to a different state
or you are in different state does not mean you don't have to testify in front of a grand jury.
Now, Steve Fisher, bring me up to date with your latest findings.
We had the news of the car being saved from going to auction at the very last minute.
We were hoping to take a look at that and that didn't happen.
These photos you're showing now, we released these photos to kind of show, there's a couple of reasons for this.
We wanted to show some of the people that were around a lot and they appear in this photo.
We believe Celeste is also just off frame here.
And also, you know, we talked about the phone right there that shows that it's on.
connected to the Wi-Fi system of the house.
And we did this because we wanted to let everybody,
I've heard recently that there are a few people
that still are not cooperating and or aren't being fully truthful.
And I think it's important that people realize
that there are things like the Wi-Fi router at the house
that's going to log exactly when they were connected to that router
and what days and what times and things like that.
So we just thought it might be important for those people
to think about.
And maybe it's time to be fully truthful about, you know, who was, who was there.
I'm sorry, hold on. You cut out on me.
You're saying that the LAPD can mine the Wi-Fi connections in the home from the time
they believe Celeste began living there until her death.
And they can determine who was in the home and get those cell numbers, connect those cell numbers
to owners and then get witnesses.
Is that what you just said?
if they did the forensics on the router,
you know, we don't have that type of relationship with LAPD where they're telling us
exactly what they've done.
These are things that we're throwing out there,
hoping that they are being done because we think they're very important,
especially if there's a...
Hey, see, Fisher, you're absolutely right.
But I want to talk to you about a neo,
aka Neo the Asian,
aka hiding under Mommy's bed in another jurisdiction,
refused to come to the grand jury.
Guess what?
He was arrested and brought to the grand jury.
So if D4VD's family doesn't want the same treatment,
they better hop on over to that California grand jury
and start talking.
Tell me what you know about Neo, the Asian,
his words not mine,
brought into the grand jury.
Did he go to grand jury, Steve Fisher?
showed up at that building.
They showed the prosecutor arriving at that building.
He was only in there.
They say 30 to 40 minutes.
The only thing that I can infer from that,
and I don't have any inside information on this,
but I have to believe that he plead the fifth,
because there's not, I can't believe there's a 30 or 40 minute
by the time you would arrive, get sworn in, all that.
He's got a lot more information than 30 or 40 minutes worth,
I would hope.
So I think he pleaded the fifth.
and which is obviously his right to do so.
And but as a non-lawyer, I can look at that and say, well, that says something to me, you know.
And, well, you're right, Steve Fisher.
That timing cannot be denied.
D-4VD's friend.
D-4VD's seemingly best friend, Neo Langston, did appear in front of an LA grand jury
and the investigation into the death of Celeste Rivas.
He was arrested for failure to appear.
He was dragged back.
He did go into the grand jury.
The 23-year-old was at the courthouse this past Wednesday.
A grand jury, as you know, convened since November investigating this.
But he didn't stay long, about 40 minutes, and then left the courthouse refusing to answer questions as he left.
Now, we tried to get a comment from the Deputy District Attorney Silverman, who was presenting the case to the grand jury.
No good.
Wouldn't talk.
Agree.
Don't blame her.
But I do believe that Steve Fisher is correct.
Straight back out to our friend Joanna Nievesevis, veteran trial lawyer in this jurisdiction.
You know what?
Fine.
If you don't want to testify, you can be put on as a co-defendant on that indictment.
Real simple.
Or you can be an unnamed co-conspirator.
or I'm very surprised the state didn't do this, Joanna, give him immunity and make him testify.
Because the reason you take the Fifth Amendment right to rain silent is because it could hurt you at your upcoming trial.
But if the state says, okay, you have immunity, like, you know, you're immune from the flu or you get the COVID vaccine, you're immune, you think.
Same thing. You are not going to try you. And if we're not going to try you, then you don't get to take.
the fifth. I'm very surprised. What do you think, Joanna? I agree with you, Nancy. I mean,
as a lawyer, I would have been talking to my client beforehand, talking to the district attorney
and negotiating some type of immunity deals to protect his interest. And so that also leaves
that opening of like, okay, if he really went in there and like the fifth, or why didn't that
occur ahead of time? But maybe they just had some very straightforward cross-examination.
questions, like some very, or I'm sorry, investigative questions where they're getting their
yes and no answers. And this is all I wanted from that witness and leaving the door open to
pursue something later on if they need to. I just, I do find it confounding that they would not
have negotiated something prior to him going in there. How about this, Joanna? Maybe they put him up
and try to get him to testify without an immunity deal in place.
And then when he wouldn't, then they had to go meet, converse, decide whether or not to grant him immunity or to charge him.
Because put Steve Fisher up, please.
Steve Fisher, you went before LAPD did.
You thought of it before they did and you executed it before they did.
You went to all the neighbors and you got their ring cam, their doorbell cam,
and we see how important that is
in the Nancy Guthrie disappearance, right?
How valuable that is.
And you got video
of someone moving
the 4VDs Tesla around, we believe,
was Celeste body in the trunk.
And you're telling me tonight
that it was
or was not Neo Langston.
Oh, I'm not saying neither of those.
you know, I can't do that.
Here's the, you know, the problem with the surveillance in that neighborhood.
The car was there.
I mean, she was in that trunk for months and that overrides.
And so although there's a lot of cameras in that neighborhood and there's a lot of surveillance to get, some of it doesn't go back far enough.
And from other angles, you know.
Let me say, Steve Fisher again.
Steve, I had no idea you could do the backstroke so well.
Isn't it true that you told me, you told me you saw the face at least once of a person moving the Tesla?
Yes.
Okay, that's all. No further questions.
But you're not telling me, and I understand that, but I'm going to keep asking.
Dave Mack, have we missed anything?
Neo Langston appears at the grand jury apparently takes the fifth.
I believe Steve Fisher and Joanna Nevis are exactly correct.
He may be named as an undidated co-conspirator.
He may be not named and given immunity in exchange for his testimony.
The family refusing, the family of D4VD, David Anthony Burke,
refusing to honor a subpoena.
I've got advice for them as a lawyer, not that you need it because Mr. Burke is a lawyer.
either
hightail it over to grand jury
in your own car
or you can ride in the back of a sheriff's deputy.
Those are the choices.
Have we missed anything?
No, you got everything, Nancy.
The one thing that we talked about yesterday
was about what we actually saw
at the very last lines of the documentation yesterday,
and that is the people of the state of California
versus David Anthony Burke.
That's our bottom line.
We actually know that it's not just an investigation into the death of Celeste.
It actually is an investigation of David Anthony Burke.
If you know or think you know anything about the death of this little girl, Celeste Rivas Hernandez,
please dial 213-486-6890.
Thank you to our guests for being with us, but especially to you for joining us in our search for justice for Celeste.
Nancy Grace signing off.
I'll see you tomorrow night.
And until then, good night, friend.
