Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - CLOSING IN: REPORTS D4VD FINALLY VIEWED AS SUSPECT, TEEN CELESTE'S BODY IN TRUNK, HAD "HELP" DISMEMBERING

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

Shocking information uncovered by the LAPD has the investigation spotlight finally pointing on D4vd Anthony Burke. Investigators have developed new information leading to believe Celeste likely died in the spring of this year and the death is being tentatively treated as a possible homicide, but officials are waiting on an official cause of death from the Medical Examiner. The LAPD has been working on a timeline of activity for Celeste Rivas Hernandez and Burke, and an insider with the police investigation says they have been able to determine in the spring of this year, Burke took a secret trip in the middle of the night to a remote area of Santa Barbara County. Burke remains in the area for several hours. As Burke becomes a suspect in the possible homicide of a child, police say it is likely Burke had help in dismembering and disposing of Celeste’s body. Burke still has not made a public announcement about Celeste being found in his car and after initially saying Burke was cooperating with the investigation, the singer has not been cooperative during the last two months. Joining Nancy Grace today: Jo-Anna Nieves-Criminal defense attorney and Founder of The Nieves Law Firm, website: thenieveslawfirm.com, Instagram, Facebook and X: nieveslawfirm, YouTube and TikTok: thenieveslawfirm Dr. Geri-Lynn Utter- Clinical Psychologist specializing in psychological evaluations and risk assessments for individuals involved in the criminal justice system, Author of “Mainlining Philly: Survival, Hope and Resisting Drug Addition,” and “Aftershock: How Past Event Shake Up Your Life Today”, and Producer of “Utter Nonsense,” a documentary of exploration of addition and severe mental illness, available to stream on Apple TV and Prime Video website:drgerilynnutter.com, Instagram & Facebook: DrGeriLynnUtterMoses Castillo (Orange County, CA) Private Investigator for the Dordulian  Law Group, Former Supervisor Detective from The Los Angeles Police Department, website: MosesCastilloInvestigations.com Joseph Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet", Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan", Instagram @JoScottForensic Dave Mack - Investigative Reporter, ‘Crime Stories’  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Closing in, reports are surfacing that the musician, D4VD, known as David, David, Anthony Burke, is finally being viewed as a suspect in Teen Girl Celeste's murder. Her body found in his Tesla trunk amiss, amiss, amissed more report. The killer had help dismembering the little girl. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.

I want to thank you for being with us. Oh, yo. Wait, wait. Oh, look it. Answer that one. That's so mean if you don't answer. Which one? What one?

We don't even know really when Celeste was last seen alive. We don't know how long she was dead for. We don't know how Celeste died. We know that she was dismembered. But how did she die? It's obviously a homicide. Reports emerging from sources within the LAPD that musician David Anthony Burke,

aka D4VD, David, is finally being viewed as a suspect in the murder of teen girl Celeste's death. As we all recall, her body found largely decomposed in his trunk. That vehicle moved and moved. and move from one spot to the next within a ritzy neighborhood. Why? Because we know the owners of those mega mansions would report the filthy car as being parked outside their home. So someone was moving and moving and moving D4VD's Tesla inside Celeste's decomposing body.

What has changed? What has happened? Why is D4VD David now reportedly being viewed as a suspect? Will this result in murder charges? How can this be without a toxicology report as of yet? But to Dave Matt, crime stories investigative reporter, what I consider to be really validating what many court viewers knew that D4VD is being considered as a suspect,

although it has not been officially announced, is the change in the timeline. Now we are learning that police sources believe Celeste was killed back in the spring. And bombshell tonight, police also looking at a road trip taken into a remote area by D4VD in the spring, where he stayed in that remote area for hours before returning back. I can only assume this information is coming from his nav system or is there a rat within Burke's camp because tonight I definitely smell a rat. Let's start at the beginning, Dave Mack. What do you know? Well, Nancy, we know that D4VD took a trip to Santa Barbara County, which is about 100 miles from the house

that he was renting and taking about two hours to drive, okay? So he takes this drive. in the middle of the night, in the spring of this year, and he stays there for a couple of hours. Now, they say remote area of Santa Barbara. You've ever been to Santa Barbara, remote area can include probably 80% of the surrounding area, big area, and you can actually be there and not be seen for a long time.

He was there for hours. Now, they're also saying they believe, I'm talking about the police investigation is saying to, to this source. They believe Celeste died sometime in the spring of 2025. So we have Burke driving in the middle of the night to Santa Barbara County in the spring of 2025. And we have them saying Celeste died in the spring 2025. That's for starters, Nancy. This is a bombshell. That is major, Dave Mack. I know that the headlines all across the world are,

D4VD, David Anthony Burke, is finally being viewed as a suspect, although LAPD is not confirming that. To me, the real bombshell tonight is that we believe she was killed back in the spring. What efforts were being taken by those within D4VD's camp to conceal her death? Pretending she was still alive, that's what we're looking at tonight. This is a major change in the investigation, Dave Mack. Straight out to Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My Feet, on Amazon and star of a hit new series, Body Bags with Joe Scott Morgan, Joseph Scott Morgan, joining us, death investigator who has investigated literally thousands of deaths, not just homicides, suicide, natural causes, accident, unexplained, and, of course, homicide. This is very confusing to us on the outside looking in Joe Scott, but the reality is, I'm sure the medical examiner,

when she saw the remains, could very likely state, oh, no, this child has been dead since the spring. You know, we were working off a timeline, putting her alive as late as September. So what would be the difference, Joe Scott? I know this is a tough question. There's a lot of variables in Celeste decomposing body. And guys, I'm sorry that we are talking so analytically and clinically about a little girl, Celeste. But this is what the trial will boil down to if there ever is a trial.

Her decomposed remains. Joe Scott, if her body had been decomposing since September, as opposed to the spring months before, what would be different when the medical examiner opened those bags? I'll tell you precisely, and this is one of the reasons we still don't have a cause of death, is the fact that put this in as delicate terms as possible, the tissue remaining on her body would have the consistency perhaps of jello all right it will have broken down to a point where some of her remains will have been liquefied to that point if in fact this new timeline is in effect and that's going to impact

a variety of different areas like say for instance nancy we're looking for soft tissue trauma like contusions uh or even to a certain degree things like sharp-edged weapons or even bullet defects, that's going to compromise your ability to visualize those things. So you have to be reliant, and I can almost tell you. Slow down, Joe Scott. Yeah. Can I put it in regular people talk? Yeah, sure. I don't see it so much as jello is more like, um, did your children ever make slime? Oh, yeah. Slime is that gooey junk children made. It's a little thicker than jello. Yeah. But when you pick it up, it's, it's, you know, it's, Goot. Thicker than jello.

I think what you're saying is that if her body had been in that trunk since the spring, she would be gelatinous like goo. And therefore, if she had decomposed to that point, you listed several things. I'd like you to go back over it again if you don't mind. If that is a state of her remains, how in the world can we find a knife mark, a bullet wound, a soft tissue marking? such as a bruise or subcutaneous hemorrhage, it's all gone. Yeah, we retreat back to this idea of doing x-rays. And what you're going to be looking at, potentially, Nancy, is insults to the underlying skeletal structure. Okay, so if you think about, like, if we talk about a knife wound, for instance,

it's going to be, you know, knife wounds just like projectiles fired from a weapon, actually have a wound track where you follow. kind of the hemorrhage line that goes. What you're hoping for in a case like this is to see if there's any kind of indwelling trauma on the surface of the bony structures. And that can easily be documented. Nancy, when they would have removed these bags and everybody needs to really grab hold of this, they would have x-rayed the contents of these bags ever before they actually removed the remains from the bags. To this point, we don't really Let me see him. Hold on. So, okay, here's another thing. Everybody on the panel hear this. Joe Scott, stay with me. According to a source within the LAPD, it was obvious when they saw the bags that she had been dismembered. Now, we are left to interpret that. So, dismembered, she was according to the source. So Joe Scott, you're telling me that when we get to,

Get the body to the morgue. And remember, they likely take the body out of the Tesla, loaded on to the morgue vehicle. So it's getting jostled. Gets to the morgue, you're saying before her remains are removed from the bag and or bags. Yep. They're x-rayed inside the bag.

Why? Yeah, inside to you. Because you don't want to lose anything, Nancy. That bag is essentially all you have. that's holding everything together at that point. And I've had cases like this where the bags have actually ruptured. That's a total nightmare for you. And can I point out one more thing, Nancy,

because I was just talking about Sharpforce here, and I don't know that that's involved. I do know that if we're talking about dismemberment, that Sharp Force post-demeanorment. In the post-mortem-mortem state, that means after death. Sharp Force is involved in that. So this even further complicates, you know, how do you delineate between what happened prior to death and what we call the anti-mortem state

and what happened after death in the post-mortem state? This just kind of doubles the problem here for L.A. County coroner. And they've got a great staff. I've got to make a note of that, and I'm going to come back to Joanne Nieves on how I believe they're going to determine if it's post-mortemortemment or an injury while she's still alive. I told you I smell a rat, somebody is going to be singing, if not tonight, in the near future. Because we know, according to the leak, he, the killer, did not do this alone. He had to have help dismembering the body, according to the report.

In a state of her remains, Joe Scott, if she is, in fact, dead since the spring, which coincides with that late night trip out to the remote area, near Santa Barbara, you're going to have to have a witness. You're going to have to have somebody rat. Now, that would be the nature of her remains if she was killed back in the spring. Correct. Now, how would it differ if she was killed in September, which is what we were led to believe? And I want to tell you one of the reasons we were led to believe that.

Listen. From the time he was moved to that last spot, which is on Bluebird, so on July 29th when I saw it, like 11 in the morning. Later that evening, they begin the tour, and they actually leave that evening for San Francisco for the first show. So there you go. To Moses Castillo joining us, private investigator for the Dordulian Law Group, former supervising detective from LAPD. I bet they are spinning like a top over this leak tonight. That's a whole other candleworms. That's their problem. I'm concerned with the timeline. We were misled, not on purpose, but because of when the car, the Tesla, was first parked on that street, that was a different date. It was not

back in the spring. It was much more recent. And many people naturally assumed that is when the death occurred. But we're wrong. We're wrong. And now we're learning that authorities believe this child was killed all the way back in the spring. That changes everything, Moses. Yes, absolutely Nancy. I think the police are going way back to the very first time she was reported missing and trying to establish a timeline. Who saw her during that time period? Who saw her shortly thereafter? And they're following every GPS data on that Tesla. And that's how they found that area about Senator Barber County. What do you think about the leak, Moses Castillo?

This is your department. You were years with the LAPD. Why is this leaking now? Well, they want to steer the pot. They want to get the attention out there because maybe they reached the point in their investigation where they need help from the public. Like you said earlier, there's a wreck.

Somebody out there has information that could help the detectives solve this case and bring justice. to Celeste and her family. And that, I think, is a strategy that is in play here. Listen. Shocking new information from Fisher, Celeste was in contact with a family member in early July, weeks before the Tesla was parked on the street.

P.I. Fisher is baffled that Burke has not made any public comment about Celeste's body being found in his car and hasn't offered condolences of any kind. Burke's tour continued after the car was towed and body found and was only canceled when the remains were identified, as Celeste. So far, the police have no suspect or person of interest. Dave Mack, joining us, Crime Stories Investigative Reporter. That report was based on information, we believe, came from members within D4VD's camp,

that Celeste had been in touch with her family. That has not been verified with the family, which leads me to wonder, has there been. in a gigantic ruse to suggest Celeste was still alive when in fact she was dead, much like the Gabby Petito ruse affected by Brian Laundry. And remember when he was coming across the country in Gabby Petito's van, texting her family as if he's Gabby Petito. And this contact that was allegedly made by Celeste to her family, we don't know if it was a message, a text, an email. It could have been anything or nothing. So are we looking at the possibility? This child was killed in the spring and then a cover-up ensued making people believe she was

still alive. That's evil, Dave Mack. Nancy, I think they went so far as to use, remember the concert in Silver Springs, Maryland on August 24th, where there was a Celeste Revis look-alike that was in the backstage area, up on the balcony, looking down on the concert, dressed in the same clothing that has been described as was on the dismembered remains found in that Tesla. I think this is part of that story. See, they're trying to put it out. They're saying, see, she's there. She was at that concert. But in reality, we don't have confirmation that she taught. You know what else, Dave Mack? All along, there were people online saying, that's not Celeste. But she was wearing Celeste's tube top and Celeste ripped jeans.

She had her hair done like Celeste from the get-go. And we're showing you the video there. And in the circle, there is either Celeste or Celeste look-alike. But it seems so far-fetched that it would not be Celeste. Look at this. We were warned. There were red flags ringing, bells of alarm, people saying that's not Celeste.

You know, to Dr. Gerilyn Utter joining us, clinical psychologists specializing in cases just like this. She is the author of Maintaining Philly, Survival Hope and Resisting Drug Addiction, and so much more. Doctor, thank you for being with us. That would be quite an elaborate cover-up. Would it not? Absolutely.

Absolutely. It would be a very elaborate cover-up. But when you look at this situation with David or D4VD, however you want to reference him, there's a lot of image protection. This is a young person that he was involved in that was a child that was a minor. He's an adult. And he's also trying to make way of this big music career. So it's elaborate in the sense that he's trying to protect himself and his image and the people around him are also trying to do that. Another thing that I just want to mention, Nancy, is the Tesla, the abandoned Tesla is a huge red flag. Think about it. If he had any type of relationship with Celeste at all, any innocent person or person that had any type of empathy or remorse would at least, at the very least, offer condolences to the family. There's a lot of emotional flatness. There's a lot of what we call emotional compartmentalization where this is classic avoidant behavior because he's trying to protect himself in his image. she doesn't really care potentially about, you know, what's happened to this poor girl. So when you look at it from a psychological perspective, you see secrecy, you see emotional

flatness, you see emotional compartmentalization with the main goal as to protect image. Well, also to you, Dave Mack, joining us, Crime Stories Investigative Reporter. Speaking of a cover-up, did you see the photos were just showing? There was a lengthy track record of covering up. because in most of the photos in which Celeste was featured, she's covering her face. She, what other girl, 13, 14, 15, do you know that typically covers their face in photos that are going to be posted, time after time after time, a pocketbook, a hand, an iPhone, you name it.

That was intentional. So the covering up has gone on for a long time. That right there is taken from a video, which was then deleted. from what we have found in looking into this investigation. There's no clear shot of Celeste Revis with Burke at all. She's always got a hand up. There's always something blocking our view so we can't identify her. And I'm telling you, this is so heavy-handed when you actually break it down.

You're going, why didn't we see this earlier? Because they knew. I mean, Burke's 20 years old. We've got a girl here that turned 15 after her body was found in that Tesla. So back it up. And you're looking at there are some people. who believe that the relationship between Burke and Celeste began when she was 12, Nancy, and they have been practiced at preventing her from being photographed clearly with Burke ever since.

A lot happening tonight. The timeline change is a massive, massive difference than what was thought before, and it changes all of the evidence. But Joanna Nevis, here's the thing. Isn't it true? When you've got a crime, bad enough to defend, it's hard enough. But when you have an elaborate cover up, trying to make it look as if Celeste was still alive, a lot of people probably knew about that. that's not easy to cover your tracks for that many months.

If that is in fact true, that could be the killers undoing the cover-up. Absolutely, Nancy. I think the thing is it would definitely be a major conspiracy for people to be participating and taking acts to cover up a crime in that fashion if there is evidence to support that. Right now, what we have is a tight-lipped lawn. enforcement agency that isn't releasing a whole lot of information and the reports that are going around are the suspicions and the hunches and what could possibly have happened. But the prosecution can't convict on the hunch. And we're just wanting to see, we need to see a bit more evidence

to support any of those type of allegations, whether it's a huge cover of or even a fact of murder committee. Yes, because we still don't even know like you were talking about with the anti-mortem and post-mortem injuries, we don't know whether or not there were injuries to that body that would support that a crime of murder was actually committed. If all of these are post-mortem wounds, if anything like that is found, we can still argue mutilation, transport, concealment of the body, but are we really going to get to the crime of murder and whether or not D4VD is actually the person who committed that or does he, his, the nature of the involvement in the crime maybe it was limited limited to a

potential cover up and an involvement maybe knowledge but who committed the act if he's actually named a suspect and investigated for that crime the LAPD has been working on a timeline of activity for Celeste and Burke and an insider with the police investigation says they've been able to determine that in the spring of this year Burke took a secret trip in the middle of the night to a remote area of Santa Barbara County, Burke remained in the area for several hours. Bloody remains are found in a vehicle registered to you, yet you continue on this world tour like nothing was found in your car.

How could somebody put a then 13-year-old little girl in a trunk and leave the car there for weeks on end? As Burke becomes a suspect in the possible homicide of a child, police say it is likely Burke had help in dismembering and disposing of Celeste's body. Burke still has not made a public announcement about Celeste being found in his car. And after initially saying Burke was cooperating with the investigation, the singer has not been cooperative during the last two months. Bombshell tonight, according to sources within the LAPD, says KNBC, D-Forfid, aka David Anthony Burke, is being investigated as a suspect.

in the death of teen girl Celeste Rivas. We are also learning, contrary to prior reports, that he has not been cooperative throughout the investigation. And I'm just curious, does it have anything to do with this? Not at all. My dad is a litigator for a law firm. My mother was a teacher. She doesn't do it anymore, but she does notary now.

That is from, and the writer is on YouTube. So, I mean, think about it. To Moses Castillo joining me, former LAPD, you got a trial lawyer for a dad, according to Burke himself, and a notary as a mom. I guess they did tell him to shut his pie hole. He hasn't said a word. Now, what can be used at trial are all actions, behavior, patterns, before, during, and after, a crime. Under the law, of course, a defendant has a right to remain silent. But if she really went missing all the way back in the spring and he never said a word, that's damning. Do you agree?

Absolutely. I agree. Not only him not say anything, but his actions of transferring, there's some reports. He's transferring his properties to his mom under his mom's name. What does that tell you that he's afraid of potential civil litigation of a wrongful death lawsuit. So all that points to a consciousness of guilt in my mind. And Nancy, every day there's justice delayed, is justice denied, and we need to fight for transparency, and we need this done so that we could get quivered responsible, accountable. Well, I appreciate that sermon. I do.

but what I'd like to point out Moses Castillo is that every day that goes by we lose evidence. We lose witnesses. Evidence is cleaned away from the home. I heard that it's been professionally cleaned now. All that evidence is gone too. Joe Scott Morgan joining us,

death investigator. Joe Scott, the dismemberment of a body is no easy thing. And I wonder where the body is, the body was dismembered. We know LAPD combed the 4VD's mansion. We've had cases and you and I have investigated them and covered them where you actually see on camera on surveillance video someone taking a body out of the home. We've watched that, including the body of a teen

girl. This is video of a little girl Miranda Corset out of Florida. You see her walking in into the murder of defendant's home and being carried out in a blanket. Does surveillance video around the home, the mansion of David Anthony Burke, show the last time Celeste Revis left his home? Like Miranda, did she walk in and get carried out? And if so, when? And this is not just about Burke's video. What about neighbor's surveillance video. Don't forget, his Tesla has 360-degree cameras. Who loaded her in the trunk? Or has the info stick been removed from the car and destroyed? Was the body dismembered in that mansion, or was it taken out to, for instance, a remote area outside Santa Barbara

and dismembered. To Joe Scott Morgan, don't you think there would be evidence inside the mansion if the body was dismembered there? Yeah, and we still don't know, you know, what they have found. And so here's what you're looking at. With dismemberment, Nancy, one of the things that's always left behind

is going to be obviously blood deposition. Now, that can either be with velocity. Say, I've worked cases involving like power tools, and it distributes much like a firearm would. Okay. Also, you're going to have things, elements like bone dust that people don't think about, just like sawdust that's created with bone. One thing that you do need, though, is you need privacy. You need generally an electrical source unless you're using hand tools. And you do not need to be bothered in any way while you're doing this. The individuals that would have been

involved in this process would have also be covered in tissue. themselves so it's a big big mess it's even bigger say for instance in cases we've covered where it's a bludgeoning or just a straight-up stabbing because now you're going even further I think one of the questions that I have was there a place that she could have been taken either in the post-mortem state or the anti-mortem state to facilitate this and also if they had panicked for instance after they started this process, if she was stowed in another location and then brought back and the Tesla happened to be the spot that they landed on.

Okay, we're going to put her in the Tesla after we've had her in this location, the body begins to become foul. They can't keep her in the house any longer or at some other isolated location where she can be found. So there's a lot of movement that's going on here. And it's going to be very, very difficult to track this. The big thing is looking for trace evidence back. in that primary residence and then if they can locate that location out in santa barbara

county somewhere is there anything of value there that may have been left behind you know i've been thinking about the condition of her body uh those mansion photos were from our friend harvey levin over at tm z i would imagine since soft tissue is the first thing to go that there's no way we're going to be able to determine from the patikia in her eyes whether she was asphyxiated. No way. That's gone. Wouldn't you agree? Yeah, to a certain degree. I have seen patikiae in advanced decomposition. Nancy, I got to make a confession here. There's something that's just like eating at me right now that I'm thinking about what I'm really concerned about in this case.

From a forensic standpoint, and that's going to be her talks. how are you going to land on an answer relative to talks? And if you can give me a little latitude here, one of the things that we do in cases of advanced decomposition, you know how we were talking about how the body begins to break down. We talked about this kind of gelaginous state that the body might be in. One of things that's rather robust that you can go to is actually the liver. And to a certain degree, the brain as well, what we do is that what remains, of the liver and the brain, we will take samples of that and literally spin it down

to the point where it liquefies. We can actually draw that up, Nancy, and get what's referred to as a qualitative finding, like were there any drugs in her system, talking meth, coat, you know, the standard panel that we run in the medical legal world. Now, here's the problem. You're not going to be able to get a quantitative. amount, you know, which is what we're looking for if we're thinking about O.D., for instance, you can merely get a qualitative amount. And that says that these drugs were present. And the question

now is, how in the hell is a young girl like this getting access to these substances that is under the direct care of an individual that is an adult in her life? Remember, she's not been with her family. So how is she getting access to these drugs? Okay. Let me boil down what you just said. Harsh reality is even when a body is, for instance, mummified from being out in the desert or in some other difficult terrain and the body literally dries up. Yeah. The internal organs, such as the liver, can be put in a blender with some form of liquid, such as saline maybe. Yeah, centrifuge. And liquefied. Yeah. You basically, you basically, basically making a smoothie out of the internal organs.

And from those organs, talks can be conducted. Toxicology labs can be conducted on that. So even if her remains, or as you said, jello, if she's been dead since the spring, even so that test can still be run. But you're saying you can't get a quantitative amount, which is the possibility of an overdose. You can't tell how much of it is in her system.

is in her system. You can just determine it is in her system. But, you know, I got a problem with what you're saying. Here's the problem. To Dr. Geraldine Utter, we keep hearing discussions of maybe she OD'd. Why are we hearing that? If this was an accidental OD and anyone hoped to save her inside D4VD's mansion, they would have called 911. We don't want to think she was intentionally murdered. So we all come up with, oh, it was likely an overdose and they panicked and got rid of her body. Excuse me, panicked and dismembered her body and left it in a trunk? That's not what people do when you want to save someone's life. When someone has an accident, so reminiscent of little Keely Anthony. When Top Mom Casey Anthony wants us to believe

Kelly died in the pool and then her dad decided, oh, let's just put her in a trash bag and throw in a swamp. That's a great idea. Instead of trying to revive her or have a funeral, that's total BS. So why do we want to believe this was an OD? Because it feels better that way psychologically, Nancy. I mean, this is D4, you know, VD or David, whatever you want to reference him as. He was somebody that was coming up in the ranks. He was beloved. He had a following. It feels better to have to think, oh, this was an accident. I don't want to have to wrap my head around the fact person that I love and I admire and whose art or music I like did something like that.

The other thing when it comes to overdose, to your point, if she had an accidental overdose, you would think that people would rush right away to call the police. Sadly, you know, we don't get as often as we'd like to see it because people panic. And usually what they'll do is they might drive to an emergency room and just kind of drop someone off or they might move her while she's still alive and overdosed and put her on the sidewalk and call. To your point, the fact that we moved to dismemberment really just, you know, it kind of makes she think, hey, maybe there was more failed play, not just simply an overdose. Your earlier question, we believe that people are capable of doing evil, evil, terrible things.

And again, someone who was an artist that was coming up through the ranks. Another thing we want to think of is she is a child, she is a minor. So there's so many layers to self-protection, self-preservation, and protecting his image, potentially, that are involved in a case like this. But to your point, if it wasn't overdose, there were 10 million other things that could have been done to protect, quote, unquote, him and his camp while also trying to get this young child help. Shocking information uncovered by the LAPD has the investigation spotlight finally pointing on Burke. Investigators have developed new information that leads them to believe Celeste, likely died in the spring of this year. And the death is being tentatively treated as a possible homicide. But officials are waiting on an official cause of death from the medical examiner.

All I need is one witness, one witness to crack, one of Burke's insiders to tell the truth about the night Celeste died. We will get answers as to what happened to Celeste Irides. Bombshell tonight, according to sources within the LAPD, D4VD, aka David Anthony Burke, known as David, as a musician, is finally, finally being considered as a suspect in the death of a little girl, teen girl Celeste, found decomposing in his vehicle. The bombshell, not that he's being considered a suspect, reportedly, many people already considered him a suspect, or at least a POI person of interest.

But the timeline, this is a seismic shift. Now we are learning, police believe this little girl died back in the spring, not in the fall, not in September when her body was found, but many, many months before that. I'm going to circle back to Joe Scott Morgan with the possibility she was dismembered in the desert outside, in the terrain outside Santa Barbara. And what that would mean, forensically, if dirt or soil could be found in that Tesla truck from that area, what would that prove? But here's one of the reasons the timeline was off. It's a little weird to see a car that I haven't seen here for a long time, had a big dent on it, had a Texas plate on it, so all a little odd.

One neighbor says the distinct-looking Tesla was parked on the street for some time in front of the house that was searched, and later in two other spots on the street. The vehicle stood out because it has a Texas plate and a big dent. From our friends at W.A.B.C. Back out to Dave Matt, crime stories investigative reporter, this is a seismic shift, the timeline, and it opens up the possibility that there was not just a murder, a cover-up, but a very long cover-up that lasted for months and was quite elaborate, suggesting that Celeste was still alive, thereby hiding the fact that she was dead and dismembered. Dave Mac, regarding the cover-up, regarding the trip out into a remote area, you've studied the map. What area are they referring to? What is the most obvious remote area outside Santa Barbara? The one I'm looking at, Nancy, is Santa Valley, which is a terrain that is, it's

difficult to drive a car in. You're going to do a lot of hiking to get around there. It's underdeveloped and it is an area that really and truly could be a place where you could be left alone for a long long time. Nancy, you mentioned the cover-up, okay? Think about this. When you're looking at that long game that includes the staged Celeste look-alike at the concert in August, think about his new album, Withard, was coming out April the 25th. They're not saying Celeste was dead in early spring. As we look at this whole thing where they're always blocking her face

so you can't see how she looked and identify her, I hate to say this. Did they plan her death so that they could get her out of the way as the new album came out and he goes on his first world tour and they replace her with a look and stage the whole thing.

To Justice Scott Morgan try to erase Dave Max's wacky conspiracy theory although frankly you know what so much is changed in this case maybe it's not that wacky after all Joe Scott Morgan let's talk about that rugged

area if she was dismembered there with help and I'm curious why L.A. law enforcement is saying that the killer had helped dismembering her that's another can of worms but what would you expect to

find on her body on those bags and possibly in the Tesla trunk? Yeah, you had mentioned earlier, you know, you begin to think of there's an area within forensics where we have forensic geology, where we begin to take a look at soil samples, and that's contained within the trace evidence area at the state crime lab. So you actually can compare soil that is, say, for instance, if you're talking, you know, this house is where he was renting, essentially adjacent to Chateau-Mormand. the famous place where Belushi died and all of those things went down all those years ago.

Well, that geology in that area, the type of oil there is completely different than, say, this area where he is the alleged to have gone. I got one more for you, Nancy. Remember, what are they saying? They're saying that there's a chance she may have gone missing in the spring. Guess what happens in the spring? You've got new bloom going on. So the flora, that is all of the plant life that is out in that area, there's a high potential that those species are completely different than you're going to find back in more coastal areas around L.A. So in these bags, not only are they going to be looking for soil sample, they're also going to be looking for any kind of pollen that's on the body.

That's another area with forensics that we look at relative to this. So there's a lot of evidence if they have taken their time with each one of these bags, with her body, any clothing that may have been on there, there's a chance that you can harvest information there that might tell you about her path, at least from a geographic standpoint. I want you to see a live stream video of D4VD, David Anthony Burke, and Celeste, which has recently resurfaced. Watch. Hey, way, wait. Oh, look, answer that one. That's so mean if you don't answer that. Which one? Which one?

What's good? They're a big fan of respect me. Oh, thank you. Mitch Ocondria. I got a sound with him if you even. Are we? We need to delete this. Are we?

Maas, can we delete all vives? And then as soon as the stream ends, delete the stream, too. You know what that tells me? That, again, is a live stream video of David Anthony Burke and Celeste, which resurfaced. That D4VD, David Anthony Burke, is very aware of any incriminating evidence. He knows to delete it, get rid of it, don't let it stay on the air. We know that there was a long history of covering Celeste's face whenever they were photographed together.

What else, if anything, would he cover up? And I want to address something Joanna Nevis' veteran trial lawyer said. she said, well, you know, if the body is so decomposed, we may never know COD cause of death and therefore we won't know whether this was a murder. I want you to imagine something, Joanne. Go to the back recesses of your mind and imagine a sinking ship about to go under in a turbulent storm. Imagine rats, rats, rodents running across the deck of the ship, not knowing what to do. A sinking ship with rats running across the debt, you don't think one of those rodents will grab onto anything to save its own skin? Yes, somebody within D4VD's camp knows exactly what happened.

And we have learned from private investigator Steve Fisher, who can no longer comment, I imagine, because he's going to be a witness, that he saw who was driving the Tesla. parking it here, parking it there. Was it D4VD? I guarantee you he had a minion do that, a friend, and that friend knows everything. There were multiple people living in that mansion. Someone is going to try their best to save their own skin like those rats on the ship deck,

and they are going to rat out on David Anthony Burke. Pressure bus pipes, and I agree with that. when your life and your livelihood is on the line, it is not difficult to apply the pressure and get somebody to break. Now, will that confession or, you know, that big reveal actually point to D4BD, that still remains unknown, you know, maybe he is aware, obviously there is something going on that there is a level of awareness and knowledge, but what we don't know is who the actual culprit was of what happened through Celeste.

Investigators have made contact with several people involved in the case, some more involved than others, but all in some capacity that leads detectives to believe they are certain they're going down the right path for a suspect. Even with the new information about the investigation, no one has been arrested, and the investigation is ongoing. We here at crime stories would be remiss. If we don't ask questions about Celeste Rivas, parents. How can she be missing all this time, even possibly dead since the spring and they alerted no one? How much if any blame is attributed to them? Where was mommy? Where was daddy? Tonight, this investigation is ongoing. The police need your help if you know or think you

know anything. Whether you are within D-450s camp, whether you're a neighbor, whether you saw them together, anything, please call LAPD. 213-486-6-890. Repeat. 213-486-6-890.

We remember an American hero, Officer Jeremy Hall, Virginia Department Corrections, killed in the line of duty. He leaves behind a grieving family. American hero, Officer Jeremy Paul. Nancy Grace, signing off. Goodbye, friend.

Thank you.