Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - DEATH BY INSULIN PRICK? Did hospital nurse murder healthy hubby with one Jab?

Episode Date: November 8, 2019

An Alabama nurse steals insulin from work, then poisons her private investigator husband. Police find his body in their home. Did Marjorie Cappello kill her husband because he found out about her secret drug use? Did he plan to divorce her and take their child?Joining Nancy Grace to discuss the case: Kenya Johnson- Atlanta Prosecutor   Karen Smith- Forensics Expert of Bare Bones Consulting   Dr. Caryn Stark- Psychologist    Steven Lampley- Former Detective and Author of "I Was the Girl"    Rachel Hammers- Freelance Broadcast Journalist of Huntsville, Alabama Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. A local private eye, very well known in his community, found dead in his own home. A four year old little girl left behind. Shocking details now surfacing in the case of a Huntsville PI, private investigator, found dead. Jim Capello Jr., just 37 years old. He died of seemingly natural causes. Just 37 years old, he's a healthy young man. He was panicky, real panicky, anxious. He couldn't get his words together.

I tried calling him twice that day on two separate occasions, and he didn't answer. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Jim Capello Sr. and Jim's sister Jamie were driving to Huntsville from out of state to lead a search team to find Jim. Jim's wife posted on Facebook that she had last spoken to him Thursday morning. She asked for help looking for him Friday. Jim's sister spoke to him late Wednesday night.

11 o'clock, I had my way to the car, answered to the car answered and he was panicky real panicky anxious he couldn't get his words together. I text Nikki and asked her how his night was. She said at one point he woke up freezing and she warmed him up but after that he slept well and he's doing well this morning. I tried calling him twice that day on two separate occasions and he didn't answer. Jamie is a nurse and she knew that her baby brother was suddenly and mysteriously very ill and he needed to get to the hospital. It was unusual, unexpected and his symptoms were extreme. What happened? What symptoms? Why are they called extreme? I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. You are hearing our friends at WAF48. That was Liz Hurley. Joining me right now, an all-star panel, Atlanta veteran prosecutor Kenya Johnson,

Karen Smith, forensics expert, founder of Bare Bones Consulting, renowned psychologist out of Manhattan, Dr. Karen Stark, Steve Lampley, detective and author of How to Catch a Liar. And joining me right now, journalist out of Huntsville, Alabama, Rachel Hammers, and renowned medical examiner out of Bay County, Michigan, author of American Narcan on Amazon, Dr. William Maroney. I need you now more than ever, Maroney. Rachel Hammers with me from Huntsville, Alabama, journalist. Rachel, what exactly were Jim Capella Jr.'s symptoms? Just 37 years old, he's a healthy young man. Well, and according to family, the only issue that he had medically was high cholesterol.

So when his sister spoke to him the night before he passed away, she said he was shivering cold. He could not make sense. He was very, he couldn't get his words together. And from everything I've read, and I'm sure your doctor will weigh in on this, but everything I've read that, you know, it was pretty classic symptoms of somebody who was suffering from an insulin overdose and his sister being a nurse,

herself had phoned the next morning, tried to get in touch with him a couple of times and could not. She ended up texting her sister-in-law, Nikki Capello, to see how he was doing. And as that clip stated, that he had had a bit of a rough night, but she'd warmed him up and he was doing much better the next morning. Well, wait a minute. I don't understand. Was he diabetic? By all indications, no. Okay. So I don't understand this. Dr. William Maroney, deputy medical examiner, Bay County, Michigan, author of America Narcan on Amazon. Why would he have the symptoms of insulin overdose? Let's just describe what were his symptoms, Dr. Maroney, and how do you analyze them?

Well, the most severe symptoms are going to be severe disorientation and coma, seizures, nervousness, slurred speech, and just not thinking right. Mild symptoms will be dizziness, drowsiness, fatigue, and some depression. The thing that's really important is if you're not diabetic. Wait, wait, wait, Maroney maroney maroney we're not medical professionals okay but did you just say dizziness fatigue and depression because i had that this morning when i was cleaning out the guinea pig cage i was very depressed looking at all that poop i thought i was going to fall over and um i felt fatigue because i had to travel back and forth to new york yesterday for work. Why does that mean insulin overdose?

Because I get that every morning when I have to clean the guinea pig cage. Well, guinea pig poop has nothing to do with it. But when you alter, when you change the level of sugar in the body, you'll lead to confusion, fatigue, and drowsiness. And that's because sugar is a fuel. Sugar is a fuel to the human body and you take sugar out of the system when you have too much insulin and then the body has no fuel the brain has no fuel okay your mouth has no stop stop stop dr maroney i'm drinking out of the fire hydrant here hold on hold on. I'm just a JD.

Okay. You're the MD. First, let's just break. What is insulin? I know diabetics need it to live. I know if you're diabetic or you're borderline diabetic, you have to watch every bit of sugar that you consume. I remember my dad was borderline diabetic. And I discussed this with you shortly before he went to heaven. He would watch every gram of sugar. Like I had

to buy him a certain kind of yogurt that only had four grams of sugar. And I would scour the grocery store to try to find the yogurt for him that had the smallest amount of sugar in it. But what is insulin exactly? Insulin is a protein and it's symbolically like a key. It unlocks all the cells in the body to absorb and metabolize sugar. And it's a balance. Your body's function is a balance of just the right amount of fuel, sugar, too much or too little, and you have problems. Or a false amounts of high insulin, it will make sugar drop, drop like a rock, drop like out of a plane at 60,000 feet. And without the sugar, the body begins to slow down. The brain begins to slow down.

And even my mouth would begin to slow down. And that's why you become drowsy. That's why you become sleepy. And that's why you could end up in a coma. So those are the things. Oh, and on the 18th, I go from deputy medical examiner to chief medical examiner. Just wanted to put that in there. And I take full, I take full credit for that. So thank you for bringing it up. Take a listen to this, guys.

Huntsville police continue to piece together what appears to be a murder mystery. Tonight, a husband, father, and business owner is dead. The victim is private investigator Jim Capello. And today, his sister and his father sat down with me to tell me all about Jim's life and Jim's death. It doesn't make any sense. No, it's just, you can't make sense of it. It's horrific. It's disgusting. Jim Capello Sr. and Jim's sister Jamie

were driving to Huntsville from out of state to lead a search team to find Jim. Now they're planning his funeral. Jim's wife posted on Facebook that she had last spoken to him Thursday morning. She asked for help looking for him Friday. Jim was found dead in their family home in South Huntsville Saturday. Both Jamie and Jim Sr. say Jim had no medical conditions other than high cholesterol, so his death is an utter shock. You're hearing our friends at WAFF48. That's reporter Liz Hurley. Back to Rachel Hammers joining me, journalist out of Huntsville, Alabama.

I've got a problem. What did the wife travel? Because she's posting on Thursday that she had not seen him, but then his dead body is found by other members of his family on Friday morning. Or maybe he was gone and he came back and died. Where was she on Friday morning? That's my first question. Well, it's not quite clear where she was, but what I find really interesting is that, like I said, the sister talked to him about 11 o'clock the night before uh then this whatever transpired throughout the night um you know in Alabama in in September we're still rather warm here and when he did not show up for work

co-workers got suspicious you know I just said that the family found him. Actually, they were going to look for him, the dad and the sister, when they were notified that he was dead. Rachel Hammers, who found Jim Capello Jr., just 37 years old, dead? Who found his body? The police did. Ah, so the police, what, go to his home for a welfare check? The police went to his home when they received a phone call of concern from a friend of Nikki Capello's. Okay, that concerns me right there that she had not called police because I'm telling you, if David, my husband, who comes home, at least I think he does. I better check that tracker I've got on his truck. But if he

didn't come home on time or generally like within a two or three hour period of when he's supposed to get home, I would absolutely call 911. I'd call his office. I'd go to his office. I'd travel the track between home and his office and where he may go, the grocery store, the laundry, the this, the that. And then I would call police immediately. So that's my first problem right there. But I don't know if she's a nurse. She may be a traveling nurse. Maybe she had an overnight shift at the hospital. I don't know the answer to that. But I would have a problem with David being four or five hours late coming home. Kenya Johnson, Atlanta prosecutor, joining me.

Right there, that's a big problem that nobody seemed to notice he hadn't come home. Well, when the police begin an investigation, they look at the people closest to the person of the injured party or whomever they're looking for. And so automatically you want to see who in his family has reported him missing. Has anybody said anything suspicious? They'll begin their investigation with those closest to him and how those closest to him, how they act will definitely be under the scrutiny of police as they begin to develop a chain of events surrounding the person's disappearance. Take a listen to our friend Liz Hurley, WAFF 48. You know, nobody wants to lose your children first, especially to something like this. It feels like nothing else matters. The world has just come crashing down on you. Answers are few right now, but an autopsy will clear up how he died.

For today, though, they want to remember how Jim lived. He loved his job. He loved his cars. He loved Riley. Riley is Jim and Nikki's four-year-old daughter. He worshipped Riley, and right now we're unsure exactly what she's been told about her apparent situation. Jim's dad and Jim's sister are working with medical professionals to find the right words. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Here's another wrinkle to this scenario. This guy, Jim Capello Jr., just 37 years old, is a well-known private investigator.

And you know what that means? That means he's all up in other people's business. Karen Smith. What about it, Karen Smith? When you are in this line of business and you're investigating other people's affairs and their drug use and why they got fired and telling them bad things can happen to you. You got that right. It means that a lot of people have a lot of motives. It means that there's a whole wide net of people who may have had a problem with Jim Capello. People who, you know, if he found out you had an affair and you're the one that busted this person, well, that gives that person a motive to want you not around anymore. So you're dealing with people, money, sex, power, the trifecta of motives here with a whole wide net of people that

he's been working with. So police may have had to cast their net a little bit wider than the spouse. Joining me right now, detective and author of How to Catch a Liar, Stephen Lampley. Stephen, I'm sure you've told your fair share of cheating husbands and wives. One of my very dear friends is a defense lawyer, believe it or not, and she has told me countless times, I'd rather try a dope lord than handle a divorce because those people will shoot you. They will shoot you. And she's right, Stephen Lampley. This guy's a private eye, Jim Capella Jr.

And he's investigating and telling all sorts of people in his community, people he knows. They don't like that, Stephen Lampley. Explain. No, Nancy, they don't. Nobody likes to be caught doing bad. Nobody does. And police are very much aware of that as

our private investigators. After I retired from the police department at the insistence of my best friend, who's an attorney, I also started doing PI work. And I emphasized child custody and domestic infidelity. People don't like to be caught. And will you're right especially in domestic instances as a police officer or even as a PI they will turn on you in a heartbeat but back to you Dr. William Maroney guys a longtime friend and colleague soon to be chief medical examiner I take full credit for that in Bay County Michigan author of American Narcan which which is awesome on Amazon. Dr. Maroney, though, as much as we're talking about that people don't like to be caught in their affairs and their dirty dealings and their blackmails and their embezzlement, he died of seemingly natural causes.

Explain what his death would have looked like. In many cases, a lot of these deaths begin to look alike. If somebody has no bleeding, no trauma, no bruises from the outside, it looks totally natural. It could have been a stroke. It could have been a heart attack. There's no sharp force injuries. There's no blunt force injuries. There's no gunshot wounds. It looks normal. And if it was related to insulin, insulin kind of looks like drug overdose too. If you see it happening, it's the drowsiness, it's the sleepiness, it's restlessness, it's slurred speech. it all looks the same. But when you look at the body, there's nothing there that gives it away. So you have to do testing and autopsy. And the hard part about this, insulin's a natural substance. It's different. If I inject you with heroin and

fentanyl, they will find heroin and fentanyl in your blood and your blood never has heroin and fentanyl. But insulin is a natural product in the body. So they're looking at something that may have been an insulin overdose. But all of us on this television show, radio show, web show, we all have insulin. So then you have to say, well, is it too much? Is it not enough? So it's very difficult. It looks natural from the outside and the chemical analysis is extremely difficult. Well, let me ask you this, Dr. William Maroney, how many times have you, of course, you've done thousands and thousands of autopsies. How many times have you seen a body there on the slab to autopsy and you look at it and you do a physical examination and you don't see anything?

It happens and it's very bewildering. And that's why we have natural as a cause of death, five, five manners of death that we have to choose from on every death certificate in America. And somebody natural is the number one most cause. So only after you do the chemical analysis and then if they have a subject and if they have a reason, well, then you would suspect possible homicide. But it could have been an accident. Because when you have something that looks natural but insulin's involved, well, did they have enough carbohydrates to balance their insulin?

Did they miss a meal? Did they get a drug by mistake? There's all sorts of things that can happen that way. But if you're not a diabetic, you shouldn't have insulin in you and it's difficult to discover but there's a lot of bodies that go to autopsy that have no outer signs of trauma or foul play to rachel hammers joining me out of huntsville alabama journalist rachel did this guy jim capella jr just 37 years old with a four-year-old little girl that he idolized and a happy marriage, did he have a drug addiction or any other issue that could have led to his death

that you know of? That I know of. Absolutely no indications that he had a problem with drugs. This guy, this happy dad, Jim Capella Jr., had no drug addiction. He was not strangled. He wasn't shot. He wasn't stabbed. What happened? And then this. The state is still waiting to receive the final autopsy report, but the medical examiner told officials it's consistent with being poisoned by insulin. A check at the hospital where Capella's wife worked as a charge nurse showed that insulin was missing. The judge found probable cause for the case to move forward in court, what the victim's family was hoping for. He's shining down on us right now. He's with us every step of the way. You know, he was well known in the Huntsville community. He was my son and I miss him. He didn't deserve this,

but he deserves justice. The couple's daughter, meanwhile, is in the care of loving relatives. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Huntsville police have charged Jim Capello's wife, Marjorie Capello, in his killing. Friends and family reported the 37-year-old private investigator missing Thursday night. Today, police searched their home and found his body. Friends and family gather outside a house lined in caution tape, THURSDAY NIGHT. TODAY, POLICE SEARCHED THEIR HOME AND FOUND HIS BODY. FRIENDS AND FAMILY GATHER OUTSIDE A HOUSE LINED IN CAUTION TAPE, WAITING FOR AN ANSWER TO A QUESTION THEY NEVER WANTED TO ASK. DID THEY FIND JIM? JIM CAPELLO, A 37-YEAR-OLD PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR,

WAS REPORTED MISSING THURSDAY BY FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS. FRIDAY, POLICE MADE AN OFFICIAL VISIT TO THE CAPELLO HOME AS THEY WORKED TO LOCATE HIM. THEY TALKED WITH HIS WIFE, MARJORIE CAPELLO. THROUGH FRIDAY, OUR INVESTIGATORS HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMMUNICATIONS to the Capello home as they worked to locate him. They talked with his wife, Marjorie Capello. Through Friday, we had several, our investigators had several different communications with members of the family of the missing person and of the female that lives at this house. That culminated into where we're at today. Police went back to the house Saturday, this time wanting to search the property. And she would not let us in the house. Mrs. Capello did voluntarily go to the Huntsville Police Department for questioning. Police got a search warrant. When they went

inside the home, they found Jim Capello's body. Soon after, they charged his wife with murder. That's our friend Kelly Smith at WHNT 19 Huntsville and earlier WAFF 48's Lindsay Connell. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. A local private eye, very well known in his community, found dead in his own home. A four-year-old little girl left behind. Shocking details now surfacing in the case of a Huntsville PI, private investigator, found dead. Question, Dr. William Maroney with me me soon to be chief medical examiner bay county michigan author of american narcan dr maroney we know that according to the autopsy he was poisoned with insulin how do you do that can you drink it can you eat it does it have to be shot up

and is it part of the normal drug panel that is performed when you have an autopsy the normal things like you look for cocaine heroin meth do you normally look for insulin how could they have found that it is never a normal panel you have to have suspicion and here's why they would have a suspicion. In the normal testing, it'll tell you how much glucose, sodium, potassium, chloride. It'll tell you like your chemical, well, okay, let's go look at his pancreas where, you know, insulin's made. Is it normal? Is it full of cancer? Is it working? They take samples. They'll look at slices of the pancreas and show that it's normal. They put them on slides. They put them in a microscope and they say, there's nothing wrong with his pancreas. What else would give him a sugar of zero? And the only thing that would do it, he was very specific words, the medical examiner and the police used, they said consistent with insulin poisoning, whereas they may not have direct evidence that he has high levels of insulin, but he has zero glucose, which would

result from that. So it had to be a two-step analysis. It had to be tiered and there had to be absolutely no other cause of death. That autopsy showed absolutely no other cause of death other than an abnormal glucose is zero. Well can you get insulin can it be given to you in a drink or in food or does it have to be shot into you no he was injected he was injected and and here's what you're gonna see in the in the crime um injected in ordinarily insulin is a subcutaneous injection so it's just under the skin, like above the fat level. So it's real, real tiny needle, 31 gauge, tiny, tiny, tiny needle. Now, if he was made drowsy with a high level of insulin, and then they came back and they did an intravenous intra arterial of a much

larger dose that put them down, make sleepy make them drowsy keep giving them injections and then come back insulin is never given IV like that never unless it's an emergency you know I'm just I'm just trying to figure out how this murder was effective or is it is it even a murder according to the Huntsville Police Department major crimes investigator the case began to take shape and it all started on September 21 when the wife Nikki files a missing person's report on her husband Jim the private eye the father of her four-year-old little girl now his co-workers have been contacting her asking about him because he didn't show up for work and he never did that. They went to go check on him and Rachel Hammer's joining me

out of Huntsville, Alabama, journalist. The co-workers go to check on him at the family home there on Lauderdale Road in South Huntsville and is it true she would not let them come inside but his car is parked out front? His car was parked out front and he would not let them come inside but his car is parked out front his car was parked out front and he would not let investigators inside his friends and uh sister and her father who were on their way up here to start a search party looking for him okay right there to dr karen stark psychologist joining me out of manhattan if david was missing and I had looked everywhere and people came to help me, I believe I would let them in the front door, Karen. Well, of course you would, Nancy, which leads us to wonder. This is extremely mysterious. How could she possibly send people away?

I mean, yes, you reported him missing, but here are friends that have come and they want to be a part of trying to figure out where he is. And she sends them away. So something is very suspicious. To Kenya Johnson joining me, Atlanta prosecutor. Now, defense attorneys will tell us that that behavior is not probative. In other words, it doesn't prove anything. But I guarantee you, Kenya, to a jury it does. Juries are made up of people and citizens and they bring to the table their emotions and how they would respond.

And so just as you mentioned, Nancy, how you would act if your loved one wanted to offer assistance, you'd welcome that. And so all of that is going to be taken a look at and see what are the – it will go to the timeline of what's happened how she acted uh and any activities that she did surrounding his enduring his disappearance so it definitely raises some red flags and police are going to look a little deeper after hearing that she's tried to stop the friends and family you know what it reminds me of kenya johnson it reminds me of the recent text mciver case these millionaire married to a millionaire and before his wife was cold in the grave he has a basically a yard sale at a fancy boutique and sold off about half a million three hundred thousand dollars of her designer boots

and pocketbooks and clothing i mean i remember when my fiance was murdered. Within a week or two, there was no way I would be selling off his stuff. I couldn't even think straight, much less organize a consignment sale and a fancy boutique. Do you remember that? No, that doesn't mean he committed murder, but it sure doesn't help, Kenya. It does. I remember when that happened. And not only did he sell her stuff, but he had his assistant wearing her items. Her friend was walking around wearing the deceased items days after she was found dead or she was dead. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Kenya Johnson, are you telling me another woman was wearing his dead wife's clothing, her designer clothing, I might add? Absolutely. And that's what really brought police to suspect that the shooting may have been intentional.

So in this current case, the fact that she's not allowing help, who wouldn't want help from anyone that was offering it? Even strangers. It just doesn't show a sense of urgency or desperation. And that will raise red flags to investigators. You know who else this reminds me of? and I hate to even say his name? Rachel Hammers joining me, Huntsville, Alabama journalist, Drew Peterson. Drew Peterson, who's in jail already for murdering wife number three, Kathleen Savio. Remember when his fourth much younger wife, Stacy Peterson goes missing,

he tried to give her fur coats and bikinis away to another woman. Right. I mean, almost immediately. That's creepy. It certainly is. You know, I'm talking about,

for those of you just joining us, a 37 year old young man. Many people think that he's handsome. Jim Capello Jr. With a four yearold little girl left behind without a dad. So co-workers come and try to help look for him, and the wife will not let them in the front door. And there's his car parked out in the front. They know that's there. But that's not all.

Listen to our friend, WAFF 48 reporter Lindsay Connell. Private investigator Jim Capello was found dead on the floor of his garage at the family's South Huntsville home. His wife had reported him missing in September, but investigators say she called a friend and told her that he wasn't really missing and that she killed him with insulin, seeking help to dispose of the body. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. His wife had reported him missing in September, but investigators say she called a friend and told her that he wasn't really missing and that she killed him with insulin, seeking help to dispose of the body. Her friend then called police, leading to the sad discovery. Jim was investigating his wife because he thought she was abusing drugs. Nikki, meanwhile, was very open to co-workers about the relationship problems they

were having. According to police, she showed no emotion after her husband's body was found. A small grave was also discovered in the backyard. The evidence that came out today is pretty clear and pretty horrendous. Like I said, we're still pursuing a murder charge. Wow, wait a minute. Now it's all starting to fit together to Steve Lampley, a detective author of How to Catch a Liar. Another thing that happened was when police came to the home, she said, sure, search the home, everything but the garage. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And now what idiot, no offense, Marjorie Nicole, Nikki Capello, age 32. But who calls someone and asks, hey, my husband's not really missing.

Don't worry about him. He's dead. How does that even fit in the same sentence? Don't worry about him. He's not missing. He's dead. Can you help me get rid of his body? I mean, that's a surefire way to get caught.

Nancy, this is all the earmarkings of an episode of Oral's Dumbest Criminals. This case has been, I guess, a comedy of errors from the beginning, because it's my understanding that while she was at work, I think she was a registered nurse at a hospital there, and she was telling her co-workers that the only way she was going to be out of the marriage or something along those lines was if he was dead and then she steals a drug that has to be counted, knowing that's going to come up missing, takes it home. She injects the insulin. Then she asks for help from two different people, I understand, to dispose of the body. She digs a grave and then she avoids the police help. It couldn't have been much easier for the police officers, I don't believe. I mean, Karen Smith, forensics expert, founder of Bare Bones Consulting,

what is it with the husbands and the wives? I mean, that's the first person cops look at, and she's asking people to help dispose of the body? Yeah, D-I-V-O-R-C-E, Nancy. I don't understand this either. You know, they always have this thing, it's always the husband. It's always the wife. Well, not always, but a lot of the time it is. And in this case, police smelled the odor of a decomposing body at the front door.

If the body is in the garage, I don't know many garages that have air conditioning in them, that body is going to decompose even more rapidly because of the heat. There's no doubt in my mind, as soon as she opened that front door, the officer got a whiff of that human decomposition. He went, whoa, we've got a huge problem here. You tape off the house, you lock the doors, you take her downtown for questioning, and you get a search warrant for the house, which is exactly what they did. To Dr. William Maroney, deputy medical examiner, Bay County, Michigan, author of American Narcan.

Dr. Maroney, I know this is elementary for you. Try to break it down for us regular folks. Why would the cops have smelled his body? The body begins to decompose within the first 24 hours. It swells and it gives off gases. Those gases burst. It's the bacteria inside the body. And worse than off putrescine, uh, spermin and, um, other, uh, fatty based organic, nasty smelling things that, that's the reason why we embalm bodies. It prevents all that bad chemistry.

And without it, especially at 90 degrees plus humidity, blow flies, maggots, swelling, gas, it takes about a day. And that all starts at 90 degrees in the summer. Okay, I wanted you to dumb it down for me, but I think you kind of went a little overboard. You just don't have any in between, do you, Dr. Maroney? To Rachel Hammers, Huntsville, Alabama journalist, what was wrong with their marriage? Why not just get a divorce like normal people? That would make sense.

In doing some additional digging, the Niagara Gazette, where he grew up in Longport, had reported that there was, according to his sister, that he was investigating her, he was investigating his wife, I should say, for drug abuse. And the sitter is quoted as saying, I think the problem slowly grew over time. He wanted her to seek help. So it sounds like perhaps he wanted to save the marriage. Wow. We understand that Jim had become suspicious that wife Nikki was using drugs. Don't know what kind. Could have been over-the-counter.

Could have been prescription drugs.. Don't know what kind. Could have been over-the-counter. Could have been prescription drugs. We don't know. So he, the PI, private investigator, starts investigating her and gathering evidence. He, at some point, decided he wanted to leave her and get custody of the four-year-old daughter, Riley. As a matter of fact, at one point, he even finds a bottle of insulin and takes a photo of it and sends it to a friend, but they didn't know what it was at the time. Now, this is what I don't understand. How does this work in a hospital, Dr. William Maroney? How do they not know that insulin is missing? Don't they have to keep that locked up and signed out? They do, but somebody can fraud the use of insulin and say that they

took it out for a patient that was listed on the floor as diabetic and they faked entries into the computer. And with narcotics, with scheduled substances, you're required to have a witness. And if you dispose of it, it's called wasting. And the person verifies that you got rid of the fentanyl, you got rid of the morphine, you got rid of the Dilaudid, you got rid of the injection, and two people assume the responsibility. Because insulin is what you call a generic, organic, daily drug, you're not required to have a witness. You can fake the entry yourself. And that's how they do that in the hospital.

I have a short explanation of why her and her friend talked casually about him dying. It's her drug use, if she is involved in drugs, has hijacked her brain, and this other person may be involved, and that's why they could talk about it openly to try to cover up their drug use. As soon as somebody finds out that she's dependent on substances or addicted, her nursing license is gone. So she's going to try to hide that. You know, another issue that we heard from Stephen Lampley earlier is that Nikki Capello, a young mom, a charge nurse at the hospital, told co-workers that she was miserable in her marriage and that the only way she could ever be free and rid of her husband is if he was dead. Now,

co-workers actually caught it. They were looking through a medication supply, and they found insulin missing, and this is according to WAFF, and that they contacted Nikki Capello, and she said she accidentally brought a bottle of the diabetes drug home with her. So they did catch it, and they called her on it. Rachel Hammers, Huntsville, Alabama journalist. What's next in the case? She was sent to go to trial in early 2020. We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace, Crime Story, signing off. Goodbye, friend. This is an iHeart Podcast.