Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - EPSTEIN BRAGGED: I BLACKMAILED POWERFUL MEN, CLIENT LIST MYSTERY

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

Virginia Giuffre's posthumous memoir, "Nobody’s Girl", details how Jeffrey Epstein regularly boasted he could blackmail powerful men using videos of them abusing young women. The threat always there that he could destroy their careers and livelihood.  The book also describes in excruciating detail how Ghislaine Maxwell recruited her into Epstein’s sex-trafficking ring. She discusses being ‘lent out’ to ‘scores of wealthy, powerful people’ including a foreign dignitary,  who made her think she would ‘die a sex slave.’     Joining Nancy Grace today, Spencer Kuvin - Chief Legal Officer of GOLDLAW, Represented 9 victims of Epstein  Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker,”  featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock,  www.drbethanymarshall.com , Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, Twitter: @DrBethanyLive   Lynn Shaw  -  Founder and Executive Director of Lynn's Warriors - an organization committed to ending human trafficking and sexual exploitation,  Host of Lynn's Warriors on YouTube, website: lynnswarrior.org,  X: @lynns_warriors, YouTube: @LynnsWarriors Rob Shuter - Host: Naughty But Nice Podcast, Author of upcoming novel “It Started With A Whisper”, robshuter.substack.com, Former publicist of Sean Combs, IG: @naughtygossip Barry Levine- Author  “The Spider: Inside the Tangled Web of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell,” and Veteran Investigative and Editor in Print and Television.   Elina Shirazi - Senior Political Reporter, DailyMail.com, website: DailyMail.com, Instagram and TikTok: elinashiazi Sydney Sumner- Investigative Reporter, ‘Crime Stories’  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Jeffrey Epstein bragged, I blackmailed powerful men. And we can't come up with a client list. I guess that's one way to put it, a client list. Powerful and wealthy clients that abuse little. girls like Virginia Jaffray. This, as we also learn, that between Virginia Jafray and Jeffrey Epstein, they have brought down the royal family. I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime stories.

I want to thank you for being with us. Thousands and thousands and thousands of pages of files. They couldn't call it a suicide because it looked too much like a homicide. This is a cover up of epic proportions. They're trying to make it look like a suicide. He was never making it out alive. All of you naysayers, all of you doubters who don't believe Virginia Jafre's story is real, guess what? Word on the street, Prince Andrew is going to be summoned to the U.S. to testify, to testify regarding Epstein's so-called client-list. Now, look at this picture. He said he has never met Virginia Jafrey.

That he's never been in Jolene Maxwell's home. That was a fake hand. He's got wrapped around that teen girl. And it goes on and on and on. In the last days, as we go to air tonight, bombshell out of the blue. Wow, what timing. Virginia Jafre's book drops posthumously. Yes, she committed suicide.

side. There's nobody's girl. And coincidentally, the night before ish, the book drops. Andrew gets stripped of all of his titles. Timing, timing, timing. You know what? I've got so much to cover, but right there, I've got to go straight out to PR guru joining us, Rob Sheeter. He is a guru to the celebs and he's from Great Britain. What about that? Your Prince Andrew is getting, let's see, I really don't know how to say it, but he, they're going to try to summon him to the U.S. You know, royalty doesn't like to be summoned anywhere. All around the timing of this book dropping. Rob Sheeter, host of Noddy But Nice, he is the author of a brand new novel.

It started with a whisper and is climbing up the charts for a good reason. He's at Robsheater.substack.com. Rob, pandemonium in Buckingham Palace because of Virginia Jafray, who was abused by Epstein. Yeah, yeah, this is a bombshell. This book has literally blown the roof of a story that we knew about for some time. However, having it in her own words, there's the book in her own words. It's absolutely shocking. I've got hold of a book.

I've been pouring through it. over the last 24 hours. And let me be honest here, there are not many new accusations about Prince Andrew in the book, however, to have them all together in one place told through her voice, she's no longer with us.

It's almost like she's talking to us, Nancy, from the grave. To have all that together in one book, it's devastating. He's already lost his titles, he's still a prince, he's no longer the Duke of York, and he's no longer his royal highness. Excuse me, you know, He's lost all his titles. He's living rent-free in the Royal Lodge of his mother's dime.

May she rest in peace. I don't want to hear about any of his suffering. Virginia Jafrey, you know what? Straight out to Lynn Shaw joining me. She is the founder and director of Lynn's warriors dedicated to ending sex, abuse, and exploitation of girls and women. Prince Andrew, he should be out making a living like everybody else. and quit living off the Royal Dime, the taxpayers.

After this, he should actually be in jail. That's where he should be. And he's whining, he's getting stripped of his titles. Virginia Jafray and others lived a lifetime of torment, of suffering because of Jeffrey Epstein and his clients. Finally, Nancy, I have spent the day on Capitol Hill. We are getting ready for a lot that is going to drop. because the survivors and victims, not only Jeffrey Epstein, all around our country, were waiting for some sort of closure on all of this, accountability.

And you know what? They were fatigued. They were angry. But you know what? With this book, there's new interests on, let's see, those in charge, those of wealth and power. So we are in Washington. We are demanding transparency. We are demanding that Prince, well, whatever his title is now, Andrew, be brought before

everybody to give us a clear picture. We know Virginia Joufrey was never lying. She was made out to be crazy. She was made out to be depressed. She was made out to be just cast aside. And you know what? People knew about all of this for years, for decades. But finally, that picture of her with Prince Andrew, with his hand around her midriff, her bear midrith, and Galane in the picture, that came forward during that Me Too movement, and it just sparked a movement. But now what we're waiting for, we're waiting for names. And I'll tell you why. we're waiting for names because there are a lot behind the scenes there is a list we know the list we've seen the list we can't prove it but we want those names brought forward in front of congress

and demand accountability for all survivors and victims again not only of Jeffrey Epstein and galane maxwell all the other complicit people involved this is a good day you know what speaking of all the other complicit people involved joining us is barry lavaine he is the author of the spider inside the tangled web of Jeffrey Epstein and Jelaine Maxwell. He's a veteran investigative reporter and editor in print and TV. Barry, you know what? That picture completely skeaves me out, and I think a jury would feel the same way.

Because can I see the picture of Andrew with his hand wrapped around a teen girl, Virginia, then a teen girl, Virginia, Jafrey. Because what is so off-putting, look how everybody's smiling. Like, it's all okay. Look at Gilles Maxwell smiling. It's wrong. It's as if it's okay. It's accepted.

It's not. And why is it? It takes a book like this and the victims marching on Washington to get the client list. I don't get it, Levine. Listen, Nancy, the book was so difficult to go through. because even though I had gone through thousands of pages of deposition documents, court papers, and other confidential information about Virginia's story, hearing her, in her own words, was so revolting. As a father, it just absolutely disgusted me. And what disgusted me even more, Nancy, was her disclosure in the book that the FBI sat down with her.

in 2011. And they showed her photos of all the men that she had referenced. I had counted 11 men that she referenced in her book. What happened after that FBI interview in Sydney, Australia? What actions were taken by the FBI to corroborate her stories and to interview these men? We don't know that. That information, that confidential information, is likely saying. sitting in the FBI files that the government is still refusing to release after saying that there was no blackmail, that there was no clientless. It is ludicrous. We need to find out what action was taken by the FBI to corroborate her stories. I named the men in my book. I went through each of them. Many of them I named under legal threat, legal letters

that I received and my publisher received. But the fact of the matter is, these men, three of them are dead, but the remaining men need to be subpoenaed by the government, by the Oversight Committee. They need to be brought forward and answer questions as to what their relationship was. Well, what is so disturbing?

And I'm going to throw this to Alina Shirazi, joining us, senior political reporter with Daily Mail.com, who's been on this from the very beginning. Elena Shirazi, thank you for being with us. You know, I was just hearing Barry Levine. talking about getting these legal threat letters from the people he named in the book. Lawsuit, fat chance, not happening. Why? Because Levine could go to court and call them,

unlike in a criminal case when you cannot call a criminal defendant. You can call the target in a civil case. Levine could walk into court if they sued him. And the first thing he could do is call the alleged person on the client list and put them on the stand. And, and cross-examine them as a hostile witness. You think they're going to sign up for that? That's not happening. Alina Shirazi, what's happening? Has Virginia Jeffreys' book,

nobody's girl, moved the dial at all? What do I have to do? Light a stick of dynamite under Bondi's rear end to get this client list because there is a client list. Yeah, I mean, and Amy Wallace, the ghost writing, She calls it a catalog of horrors. And I mean, as for the people involved, she did mention, right, in the book, a former prime minister. And if you look at the document dumps, it actually does mention former Israeli prime minister, Ehud Barak.

And while Amy Wallace says she can't exactly reveal the names for several reasons, right, because Virginia, she wanted to protect, you know, just her sanity, her children. There's a lot of reasons as to why, you know, when people say, well, why don't she just really? release all of the names. She just wanted it to be okay for a minute. She was obviously struggling. She committed suicide before this book came out. So she was just looking for a little bit of that sanity. But as you just put the pieces together, you can see some of these names start to come to fruition. And a Congress, right? I mean, Prince Andrews, so much information has come out about him. Representative Stephen Lynch told the BBC that the House Oversight Committee is going to be questioning him. They're interested in hearing from him. So we certainly see a lot of this

start to unravel. And I think that it's only a matter of time before all of this comes out. President Trump said he campaigned on this. He said that he would release the Epstein files. He would release the list. So people are still waiting for that to happen. And Maxwell is still sitting pretty in this nice prison, hoping for a pardon from the president. You know what? I want to follow up on what you're saying. For some reason, the client list, the files have not been made public. And I was hoping against hope that the publication of Jeffrey's book would move the needle on that happening to Spencer Coving, joining as Chief Legal Officer Gold Law, who has represented at least nine Epstein victims. Your clients know. No.

the names or the names of some of the people that abuse them. Nine now adult women. And as I've told many, many juries, look at all these people testifying against him. You think they all got together, separated in time and space, and made up an incredibly similar story. The same thing happened every time. They get called to the mansion. They get told they're going to give a massage to Jeffrey Epstein. They meet with Galane Maxwell. Maxwell goes in the room with them. Maxwell strips Epstein's naked. Same story over and over. You know what? If that was my child, I swear I would burn down the courthouse because nothing is being done. What about your clients? Nine of them last count that know the names of their predators. Why have they not been

released? Why aren't you releasing them? well that's a very good question but the more important question is why hasn't the government released them my clients now this dates back to 2007 when i first started representing these young girls we're going on almost 20 years where this investigation began and back then my clients interviewed with the FBI and gave them all of the information now you've got to understand these young girls, 15, 16 years old at the time, were surveilled and harassed ruthlessly by the Epstein team. Epstein hired private investigators to follow them around in vans and trucks, take pictures of them, interview their family members, interview their boyfriends about sexual

positions, things that they had done in their life. These girls are petrified. Even though Epstein is dead, they are so afraid because the system has let them down time and time and time again over these almost 20 years. So as a result, they're relying on the federal government to do their job. And more importantly, as I've always said, the information is contained not just in the list, but more importantly in the videotapes that the government has seized at all three mansions that Epstein had. Well, I see, Kovin. Kovin. Kovin, I'm going to circle back because you didn't answer. You sidestepped it.

Why is it that you and your clients do not release the list of your client's predators? Just give me an answer. What is it? They're scared. They're petrified for their lives. If they release any additional permission. Hold on. There's another way to get this list, Ms.

There's another way to get the list. I don't expect the list to be lying there and go, belief. You have to read the files. You and I have come through enough boxes of documents. Boy, when I was a Fed, I lived coming through boxes of documents. And from those documents, you get names. It could be on an email. It could be on a phone log. It could be on a flight log. It could be communications back and forth. It could be an appointment book where you get names. That's the client list. The names are there. There's no way the name. are not there. Your client's

no names. The women that are marching on Washington, no names, but yet nothing is happening. You know, what's very interesting, back to Barry Levine. Hold on, Dr. Bethany, I'm coming. Barry Levine, right now there is an Arizona

congressperson. She won in September, but they are refusing, Washington is refusing the speaker of the House. You don't like what I'm saying, speaker? Come and get me. The Speaker of the House refuses to swear her in. Why? Because she is going to vote for the files to be released. She hasn't been sworn in. It's almost November. She was elected, duly elected in September. And I don't

care what she is if she's a Republican, a Democrat, a Greenie, don't care. They are keeping her out from being sworn in because she is going to cast that vote for the Epstein files to be produced. That's absolutely correct, Nancy. They're trying to sweep this under the rug, but it just won't go away. And in fact, we know that Representative Thomas Massey, who's a Republican, who's been pushing to get these files released, he said that he knows the names of 19 men. Okay, so Virginia named Virginia cited 11 men in her book. He knows the names of eight additional men. We now have a list, at least he does, of 19 men. Why isn't the FBI all over this?

Why isn't Bondi directing the FBI, Cash Patel, to go through those 19 names? For God's sakes, bring, we know three of them are dead, and maybe some of the eight that he referenced could be dead also. But the fact is, those that remain alive need to be brought in. They need to be questioned. And they need to have the heat turned up on them as to what their relationship was with Virginia, with Jeffrey Epstein, with Maxwell. You know what I'd also like to find out.

I'd like to find out not only the names of these predators that are rolling in money power, prestige, that have been living their lives like nothing happened. Dr. Bethany Marshall, they're that arrogant. They're that convinced they'll get away with it. And so far they have. And I'd like to know, and I guess it's going to take a Watergate type proceeding to find out what's been said in Washington that has stymied this investigation. You know, Nancy, this whole group psychology is like the family where a little girl's being molested. Mommy looks the other way because she wants to hang on to the love of daddy. In this case, mommy being the government, daddy being all these rich, powerful men, the little girl being Virginia

Jeffries. You know what's so sad? What I read in this book is that she was molested by her own dad. When she worked at Marilago, she was so excited to have this new job. Gailin Maxwell waltzes in looking all fancy, promises her to learn massage. And that very same day, she's molested. Do you know, Nancy, she was so brutalized on the Lolita Express that she feared for her life. This is not just sexual abuse like giving oral sex or being penetrated or fondled. This is older, rich, powerful men and women brutalizing her. I think we really need to cast a spotlight on that. This is sadism. This is cruelty. This is beating her up. We keep saying that they were sex trafficked. Bethany. It was tolerated. It was condemned.

It was encouraged, and can't you imagine, Jiffray and so many other girls like her, teen girls as young as 12, at Lolita Island with Epstein, you couldn't get off the island. You could only get there by a ferry with all of these old guys. Can you imagine? If they're smiling for the camera, that it's all okay, imagine the environment right there. there in that compound you know nancy the word sex trafficking and sex abuse has almost lost its meaning we've used it so many times so let's use another word gang rape gang brutality torture mob violence these are also very salient words you know that word that picture where prince andrew has his his hand around her waist do you know that gillan maxwell told jeffreys uh that

that morning this is going to be a great day this is according to the book get up this is going to be a great day you're going to meet a prince she was so excited because she bought into the fairy tale so she brought her little point and shoot camera and she said to gillen maxwell will you take a picture of us poor little thing she thought she was meeting a prince who would treat her like a princess and gill and maxwell then plays a game that she did with all the perpetrators can you guess how old Virginia Jeffreys is. According to the book, Andrew, Prince Andrew, replies 17. I know because I have girls who are just a little bit younger. So all of this, they didn't know how old the girls were. They did because Gill and Maxwell loved the game of guessing the girls ages before they were raped,

tortured, and penetrated. Virginia writes, she was instructed to have sex with Prince Andrew on three separate occasions. Maxwell told her their first meeting would be just like Cinderella. Though Virginia says Andrew behaved like it was his birthright to have sex with her, though they only spent about 30 minutes together behind closed doors. Virginia repeats the claim Andrew visited her in New York just a month later, and also describes a third orgy on Epstein's Island with the Prince and other young girls. Release the files. Tens of thousands of documents related to Eftain.

are refusing to release. Now we've got the administration telling us, look the other way. We've got orange blobs. We've got a guy who looks like, you know, supposedly killed himself with orange paper towels, please. In the last days, Virginia Jafre's book, Nobody's Girl, has been released. Will it make a difference?

We earlier heard a guest describing her suicide. But you know what, to Alina Shirazi joining a senior reporter with Daily Mail.com. There are estimates, I mean, I think I've counted six people that committed suicide connected to Epstein, including Epstein, Jifrey, Epstein supplier out of France, Jean-Luc Brunel. He committed suicide, much like Epstein behind bars. Several of the child trafficking victims, and Dr. Bethany and Lynn Shaw can explain why victims, adult victims, of child sex abuse. go on to commit suicide. But it's quite the coincidence, don't you think, that so many people just before they are to testify commit suicide. I feel like I'm in Russia and someone's going to get

thrown out the window or poisoned just before their testimony. You just heard Spencer Coven, who is a high profile lawyer, Chief Legal Officer Gold Law, who represents going on 12 of the then child victims of Epstein saying they're afraid. They should be afraid. The victims are dropping like flies, Alina. I mean, you always say timing, timing, timing. Right, Nancy? I always hear you say that and you have to think about that. The timing of these suicides certainly is something to be examined for these young girls who have just been through so much. For so many key figures involved We're obviously keeping an eye as well on Galane Maxwell to see what happens to her in that Texas prison, which has a ton, a ton of security. But also the timing of other things like Prince Andrew and when he decided he would relinquish his title, the Duke of York.

He still is a prince, but people are pushing for that further. The timing is just so many things. Hold one moment. The way you said that, I don't like it. I don't like anything you just said. And I'll tell you why. Isn't it true, Rob Sheeter, that Andrew is still insisting that people say, Your Highness, and that he holds on to some type of title?

Absolutely. Behind the scenes, I know a lot of people in the palace who work at the Royal Lodge, they're saying that behind the scenes, he's still, he's still Prince Andrew, his staff at the house, his 30-room mansion, that he's not paying any rent for. A staff? A staff. Andrew has a staff. He does.

to do what, brush his teeth and wipe his teeth? Why does he have a staff? Why are they? You know what? If the Brits want to pay for it, you know, that's on them. So Alina Shirazi, I don't know that he voluntarily relinquished his title. I think he got called in, summoned into a meeting with Charles and William, and he got a spanky, spanky. And they stripped him off his titles.

That's what I think. they want nothing to do with it it's such a big distraction from the buckingham palace and certainly the first time we put a gagging order on virginia he claimed that he was thinking about the queen um i mean the entire royal family wants to separate themselves as far away from this is possible and prince william uh we know as well from our reporting he wants to separate himself from his uncle uh there's been so many events just this past week with the royal family where they even did put out a statement saying we know we want to focus on what we're doing. We don't want to focus on things surrounding that. And obviously,

they meant this. So this is a bad look. This is a horrible look. Elena, Elena, remember just recently there was a big royal funeral, not within the British royal family, but another royal family. And everyone attended. And it was this special moment. And then all of a sudden, here comes Andrew lurking and trying to have a conversation on camera with. William who looked at him and went, oh, it is like a dark cloud over them. And they represent, like it or not, they represent Great Britain. He should not be walking free, popping up at royal events. It's a huge distraction. The situation has festered. They thought that by having him put out a statement in his own way, our reporting shows, saying that he would volunteer

voluntarily relinquish his title of Duke of York, which as we talked about, Nancy, was certainly not the case. It was a sort of PR outreach on that end. But him trying to come out with a statement in that way, they think it's going to all just go away. No, it actually put even more attention on the royal family. So no matter what way you try and spin this, the way. The way you said that, Alina, the more they try to sweep it under the rug. It festers. It boils up. And that's the same thing that's happening here with these Epstein files.

And it's not just Democrats trying to bring down the White House. It's Democrats and Republicans because they know that this is wrong. I mean, you know, a shooter, it'll be a cold day in HEWL that Andrew voluntarily says, here, have all my titles and all the pop and all the circumstances. That did not happen. Didn't happen. And even his statement actually says that. In the statement, he uses the word we, we have decided that I will step away from these titles, not I. So there's more than him involved here. My sources are telling me this is William. William, he is disgusted what happened

at the Duchess of Kent's funeral that you referenced, Nancy. He's disgusted at having Andrew around. And this is the problem they have. The royal family is a family business. They won him out of the business, but he's still a blood member of the family. So they've tried to walk this difficult path of letting him come to family events, funerals, Christmas. Neither decided no more after that display at the Duchess of Face. You know what, Shooter, I've got bigger problems than whether Andrew celebrates Christmas at Sandringham, okay?

I don't care. What I want is this client list, and I want the predators put, behind bars. Jafray lived her whole life destroyed by what had happened to her just like all the other little girls now women. I just want nobody likes to let their mind

go there, but you have to imagine. Levine, isn't it true, girls as young as 12 years old were being brought to Lolita Island, which is under U.S. jurisdiction there in the U.S. Virgin Islands

brought there fly in from the stands, from Turkey, from France, little girls, some as young as 12, they are flown there, they are taken off the plane, they're put on a ferry, they're taken over to the island, and they are sex abused. What does sex abuse mean? They are raped. They have sex with Epstein and his clients. And if we sit back and let this happen, Jaffray is getting.

dead. Everybody keeps saying suicide. I'm not sold on that or Epstein committing suicide. That said, who's going to fight now? Who is going to stand up to Bondi and others that refuse to seek justice? There has to be evidence, Levine, the ferry workers, the pilots, the people that protested their travel for Pete's sake. There is a trail of mile. And you know what? There's more evidence. There's got to be a hospital record of this. Listen, Levine, if you can stomach it. Nobody's girl touches on a harrowing medical emergency at age 17 when Virginia woke up in a pool of blood with stabbing abdominal pain. She was heavily sedated when Epstein took her to the hospital and afterwards he told her she miscarried. But Virginia later learned she likely suffered a ruptured

ectopic pregnancy. The memoir also claims Epstein and Maxwell broached the idea of Virginia acting as a surrogate for them, aligning with newly released emails between the couple discussing fertility testing. What did I just hear? Wait a minute. That she was even, Virginia Jafray, was even considered carrying as a surrogate the baby of Epstein and Maxwell. We'll talk about Rosemary's baby. you remember Rosemary's baby

with Mia Farah? Remember that, Levine? And Mia Farah had the devil's baby. The devil's baby. They were considering using Virginia Jafri, this little teen girl, to carry their baby as a surrogate. If that baby did not come out with horns and a tail, you know, strike me down lightning. But there has to be evidence of that ectopic pregnancy save where Virginia

Jifrey went to the hospital to bolster her testimony of course she can never testify now she's dead I'm sure they're all happy about that because that's one less witness they've got to deal with Levine listen Nancy there were cover-ups

not only in the U.S. but in the Virgin Islands where his island was in England I mean I know from researching my book Epstein had doctors and nurses on his island to deal with the issues of these girls that were raped as young as 11 and 12 years old. John Luke Brunell brought over, flew over at least 1,000 girls to Epstein under the guise of

they're going to be models. We're going to make them models. And he brought them from all these different countries and they were abused. One girl even tried to, she was so frightened, a young girl, she tried to think about swimming off the island, the shark-infested waters off the island, only to have Jeffrey Epstein's security detail bring her back and chain her up in her bedroom. This is a cover-up of massive proportion. The Attorney General in the Virgin Islands, the former Attorney General, Denise George, after Epstein's death, launched an investigation. She was sickened by what she found.

from information, as you said, from the people who worked at the airport, girls as young as 11 and 12 who were getting off planes, what Epstein would do, what he would have them dress up in college university sweatshers, in an attempt to make them look older as if they were in college. But in fact, these were children that were being on these planes. You know what? You just gave me chills all over because that's kind of detail I look for

when I am trying to assess a witness's credibility, again, to wear out a phrase, it would be a cold day in H.E.L. that I would put a witness on the stand that I did not believe. But what you just said, that it was Epstein's idea to dress the little girl, some 11, 12, is what I heard, you just said 11, in college sweatshirts and T-shirts to make people think that they were college age. and he just make up a fact like that. I believe that. This is information that the Attorney General turned up in her investigation. And, you know, she said that the estate, Epstein's estate, which she finally got to force a compensation fund for the victims,

that it was a criminal conspiracy in terms of what went on over there. You have to remember that after he received that slap on the wrist conviction down in Florida in 2008, He wanted to conduct his sex trafficking away from the eyes of police in Florida and New York. And he primarily moved his operation to the Virgin Islands, where he had all these international fixers, put these young girls on planes. It is a cover-up of massive proportion, and nobody wants to investigate this, except for a very few in the government like Thomas Massey and Senator Roy Wyden, who is going down to find out. financial trail to try to determine who Epstein paid from $1 billion worth of wire transfers that he turned up. So, you know, this is something that still needs investigation. And we need to find these men who are overseas. We need to find the men who put these young girls on

planet. Virginia Jeffre's posthumous memoir, Nobody's Girl, describes an excruciating detail how Galane Maxwell recruited her into Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking ring. Virginia speaks to the reader, urging them to continue despite the frequently stomach-churning content. Virginia explains the content of this book is crucial. It is imperative that the truth is understood and that the issues surrounding this topic are addressed, both for the sake of justice and awareness. They've admitted there's thousands and thousands of pages. We've been told over and over and over that what's in those files is shocking. We're going to get rid of the deep state.

We're going to show you all of the files. Why not release them? Lies, lies, lies. What are they hiding? What are they hiding? Why not release the files? How many people have to die by suicide before anyone pays attention to what happened to these young girls? How are these clients still shrouded in mystery, the indicia of reliability and respectability?

How are they going about their lives like nothing happened? I was speaking to Barry Levine, author of The Spider, inside the tangled web of Jeffrey Epstein and Elaine Maxwell, about hardproof like a hospital visit with Jeffrey's topic pregnancy. But what about this? One email includes a 2,000 item spreadsheet detailing gifts Epstein financed for powerful associates and his victims. Some of the gifts include a $50,000 dollar Steinway piano, a $60,000 diamond necklace and earring set for Maxwell, a $71,000 Lexus for Epstein's lawyer's wife, and a $35,000 watch for one of Clinton's aides. Maxwell also documents gift cards to lingerie shops, flowers, chocolates, laptops, and education and rent payments made to victims. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Sydney Summer joining me, Crime Stories investigative reporter looks like the victims, the little girls, were a lot cheap.

to buy off, lingerie. Who needs another pair of underwear? Flowers, chocolate, a laptop, pay the rent. When a presidential aide got a $35,000 watch, someone else got a Steinway piano, a $71,000 Lexus. That's just the tip of the iceberg, Sidney Sumner, who was paid off, got bribes, got so-called gifts that were enabling child sex trafficking, Sydney? Yes, that spreadsheet is just a staggering document to go through. The records are just, it's horrible looking at how easily these young girls were paid off or appeased in some way to continue performing what they performed for Jeffrey Epstein. They're rent payments, payments for SAT classes, a laptop, and there's other things.

Off-road vehicles to the tune of almost $100,000 for a minor. These gifts, we don't know how many of them were accepted. And Clinton's aide, who was identified in those emails, denies that he ever received that $35,000 watch. But it is just staggering how far Jeffrey Epstein reached. extended and Galane Maxwell facilitated and bought most of these gifts herself. The two of them, the devil and his hitched person, literally make me sick. Listen to this that we've discovered about emails between the two of them. Galane Maxwell insists she was not close with Epstein after 2003, but nearly 650 emails between the financier and socialite begged to

differ. They discuss his initial sexual abuse case, gifts to both powerful contacts and the minors they abused, plans to discredit women raising allegations against Epstein and shared fertility procedures. I mean, right there in emails, gifts were being given to the so-called clients, aka dirty old men, and their victims. Why were these expensive gifts a $50,000 Steinway, a $71,000 Lexus, and more, and more being given to the clients that the little girl, then little girl victims actually name. How can the U.S. attorney turn the other way? It's such a sham. I'm very curious the way that is being portrayed to us as if there are no files. There's nothing to see while a monarchy is under siege.

I'm talking about Fergie. Listen. Prince Andrew's ex-wife, Sarah Ferguson, is exposed in leaked emails, showing that while the Duchess of York publicly apologized for her Epstein association, she privately apologized to him weeks later, calling him a supreme friend. In a 2011 interview, Fergie says it was a gigantic error in judgment to accept money from Epstein as she abhors pedophilia. But weeks later, in a private email to Epstein, she humbly apologizes. Insiders say Epstein threatened a lawsuit, and Fergie sent her email to appease him.

Leaked emails showing a 15-year history of money and friendship with Epstein is costing Sarah Ferguson as at least seven major organizations cut ties with the Duchess. Rob Sheeter joining us, host of Naughty But Nice podcast and author of a new hit book. It started with a whisper. Shooter. I loved Fergie from the get-go. She and Diana are my total favorites. But now we know Fergie has gotten hundreds of thousands of dollars from Epstein. He's been bailing her out of financial woes for years and she's still living the champagne caviar lifestyle. Now, wait a minute. I don't know if they say this in the UK, but here we say it.

When you don't know a horse, look at her track record. We know Fergie, the Duchess of York, Sarah Ferguson, was caught on video in a sting where she was accepting tens of thousands of dollars to introduce somebody to Andrew. So we know she will use her position and get money for it. So I don't know what she was doing with all of Epstein's money, but she gave this public apology. Oh, I had no idea. he was a pedophile and secretly riding him. I'm so sorry I said that you're my supreme friend. What a load of BS.

Yeah, it's grotesque, Nancy. It's absolutely grotesque. And it's another example of rich and powerful people saying one thing publicly and another behind the scene. I think like you, I really liked Fergie. I've met her several times. And now we've realized the person that we thought she is. She simply isn't.

And it's just another example. of these awful people tricking us. Not just their victims, but all of us. This has been a mass cover-up and one that has been really successful until now. And now, thankfully, finally, Nancy. Hey, Shooter. You know, we've got the Ten Commandments, right?

But there's also the Seven Deadly Sins. And one of them is gluttony, gluttony. All the champagne, all the caviar, all the shabier, all the chauffered limos waiting outside for 18, 20 hours until she decides she's not going to go. The mansions, the gifts, the stationary, the clothes. What was she spending millions of dollars on? Herself, Nancy. She made no money as a royal.

She's living rent-free in her ex-husband's house. She doesn't even have her own. apartment. She's staying with her ex-husband. The mistake we make when we think we know royalty is we think they're really, really wealthy. And a lot of them are. But many of them are not, Nancy. They live this fabulous life. But if you're checking their bank accounts, it's not a lot of money. And so Sarah here was using people like Jeffrey Epstein to get cashed. And in exchange, he was getting access to power and access to cover-ups. She and Andrew were perfect for each other. so bad for their daughters, Beatrice and Eugenie.

Dr. Bethany Marshall, you heard Spencer Coven say his clients are afraid? I guess so, because you've got Prince Andrew and the Duchess of York cozying up with Epstein, who's going to believe them over the British royal family for Pete's sake and presidents and wealthy individuals, CEOs of companies? And these little girls are saying he raped me? Yes. These girls feel so disadvantaged. You know, one of the things I read in the book, Virginia Jeffrey's book, is that she would travel around the United States with her ghostwriter trying to find people who would corroborate the fact that she had been on the island because she was so desperate to have some acknowledgement and some justice. And then we see this vast cover-up that you're talking about this vast machine against which she had no power. she had no chance Nancy and that's what makes me so sad about this um you know and a detail that i think is quite interesting because you were talking about evidence is that in her book she writes

that she was called to give a massage to a very wealthy powerful man whose wife was pregnant it was at a hotel fancy hotel she gives the wife a normal massage the wife goes to bed she starts to give the husband a massage and then she realizes it's an abusive massage So she was sex trafficked once again there. That's yet another story that you cannot make up. Who was that wife? What did she know? Why is that person not coming forward?

Is she covering up for her husband? People are covering up for so many reasons. And all those gifts Jeffrey Epstein gave, it's not only to pay people off, but once they accept the gift, then they're complicit. And we saw this with P. Diddy, he would do things to make people complicit in his crimes so that then they would not turn him in, like taping them having sex with minors or whatever, and then he would have that tape as evidence.

So the gifts are a way to get people into the fold, to get gifts back from them, and to buy their silence. A case is being built. There are people that are fighting for these victims. If you know or you think you know anything about this case, Epstein, Maxwell, the clients or the client list, please dial 202, 225, 3465. Repeat, 202, 225, 3265. Yes, it's a Washington, D.C. number, but don't be afraid. 202. 225

3465. We wait and pray as justice unfolds and now we remember an American hero officer Lauren Craven, Lomasa PD, just 25 killed in the line of

duty, leaving behind, as you can imagine, grieving parents Karen and David. American hero officer Lauren Craven Nancy Grace signing off. Goodbye, friend.