Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - FIEND Hog-Ties Victim With Christmas Lights, Sex Assaults Her After Tricking Daughter to 'Crack Window'

Episode Date: October 21, 2022

Alisa Mathewson and her estranged husband Trevor Summers had been going through a bitter divorce. The couple had five children. There were allegations that Summers was obsessed and possessive, and a r...estraining order against him backed those allegations. Then one night Summers tricked his then-14-year-old daughter into leaving a window unlocked for him. He told he want to talk to Mathewson. Summers broke into the house and attacked Mathewson in her bedroom, holding her there for hours after sending the children to his home. Summers tied up his estranged wife with Christmas lights and then a vacuum cleaner cord. After hours of being bounded and gagged, Mathewson says she was raped twice. Summers then hogtied her and tried to smother her to death with a pillow. He then made Mathewson leave with him. Summers drove to a Walgreens, where Mathewson, with her hands tied behind her back, tried to get away. An employee saw it all and called the police.  Summers was charged with two counts of attempted murder in the first degree, sexual battery, and kidnapping. Joining Nancy Grace Today: Kathleen Murphy - Family Attorney (North Carolina); Twitter: @RalDivorceLaw Caryn Stark - NYC Psychologist; Twitter: @carynpsych; Facebook: "Caryn Stark" Greg Smith - Special Deputy Sheriff, Johnson County Sheriff's Office (Kansas); Executive Director of the Kelsey Smith Foundation Rachel D. Fischer - Registered Nurse; Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner (SANE); Expert Witness; Private Investigator; Author: "Taking Back the Pen;" Forensic Nursing Consulting and Education LLC Gloria Gomez - Court Reporter, FOX 13 Tampa Bay; Twitter: @GGome13 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Imagine someone taking your mother hostage, assaulting her, beating her, raping her the whole time you fear for her life and the whole time you blame yourself.
Starting point is 00:00:35 I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM 111. Listen to this. There are waterings and fish hawk and some dude or some chick Fox Nation and Sirius XM 111. Listen to this. I don't know the address. It's a blue SUV. Looks like an on-goode. Can't be sure, though.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Don't look like it. Trying to get the license plate. Looks like GLH M32. It's a dark, dark blue SUV. If an attacker would grab a woman at Walgreens and fight with her in public, the whole time her hands are tied and she's screaming for help, what will he do when he gets her alone behind closed doors? Listen. At about 9.05 last night, over on Fish Hog near the Walgreens,
Starting point is 00:01:54 witnesses saw what appeared to be a female with her hands tied behind her back. She was screaming for help. They then saw her being forced back into a vehicle by a male. The male put the seatbelt across her her and then they took off. When the witnesses reported it, they had a good tag number. There was surveillance at the Walgreens. Okay, I just heard something very interesting. So he's kidnapping the woman at this Walgreens, brazen, arrogant. People are seeing what's happening. He's not even doing it secretly. She's screaming her head off. Her hands are tied or handcuffed or zip tied.
Starting point is 00:02:33 He's really not making a secret about it. Throws her into the car. But then he puts the seatbelt over her. Does anybody see the dichotomy between those actions and then the putting the seat belt across her chest with me an all-star panel to make sense of what we know right now but first i want to go to gloria gomez court reporter with fox 13 in tampa bay gloria gomez thank you for being with us where is walgreens and fishhawk where is that? That's in the Tampa Bay area. And it's a little suburb of Tampa and very, very populated. And a lot of people in that community.
Starting point is 00:03:15 It's a growing family community. Family community. Okay, that's what I was wondering. Is this inner city? Is it a rural area where you drive? Like I had to do growing up. We have 25 minutes just to get to a McDonald's. Or was it a suburb, but you're saying a family suburban type setting?
Starting point is 00:03:33 It's a growing suburb community. Outside of Tampa. How far from Tampa? I would say about 25 minutes from Tampa. So a lot of people probably work in Tampa and they live there. Exactly. So that's very unusual. Just off the cuff to Greg Smith joining us, Special Deputy Sheriff Johnson County Sheriff's Office, the Executive Director of Kelsey Smith Foundation. You can find them at kelseysarmy.com. Greg, thanks for being with us. The reason I'm asking is because we expect kidnappings, armed kidnappings, people zip tied and thrown into cars in big cities like, you know, Detroit, L.A., Atlanta, inner-city Atlanta, Chicago. But really? A bedroom community outside of Tampa, Tampa Bay?
Starting point is 00:04:22 That kind of defies statistics, right? Well, yes and no. of Tampa, Tampa Bay, that kind of defies statistics, right? Well, yes and no. I mean, my daughter's kidnapping happened in Overland Park, Kansas, a suburb of Kansas City, Missouri. And that was the only abduction that took place in the county that year. So they can happen anywhere. Are they statistically more likely to happen in big cities? Yeah, sure. You know, Greg Smith, you just stated so perfectly one of my messages I try to get out all the time.
Starting point is 00:04:51 You think crime is not going to enter your world. It can, and it will. It doesn't matter what color you are, your origins, where you're from, whether you've got a Ph.D PhD or you dropped out of school in third grade, it doesn't matter because crime can find you no matter where you are, even in this suburban community outside beautiful Tampa Bay. So let me go back to Gloria Gomez, court reporter, Fox 13, Tampa Bay, Gloria, describe what we know about the kidnap itself. You were hearing someone, a call made by Randall Crosby calling 911 when he saw what was happening. What exactly did Crosby see?
Starting point is 00:05:39 He saw a woman getting out of a car with her hands tied, struggling to get out, yelling for help. And suddenly she sees a man coming out of the store, grabs her, throws her in the back seat of the car, gets her in the car and takes off with her. That's what he saw as he was working at the Walgreens that day. And immediately he called 911. Ah, got it. So he was working there. So he was looking through the glass and what time of the day or night was this? I believe it was in
Starting point is 00:06:10 the early morning hours. When you say early morning hours, do you mean like 7 a.m. when people are getting ready to go to work and they're just hitting the road with their coffee or are you talking about 1 or 2 a.m. in the middle of the night? I believe it was in the middle of the night. Okay, you know what? How many times, Kathleen Murphy, have I told a jury nothing good happens after midnight? And now my twins say, thank goodness, I hope I brainwashed them. With me, Kathleen Murphy, family lawyer out of North Carolina. And let me tell you something, we say family law, it's all nice and cozy like a Hallmark card. It ain't. Okay. Some of the most bitter cases I've ever seen start stem with family law. Kathleen Murphy at ncdomesticlaw.com. Kathleen, you're a trial lawyer. Why does so much go down after midnight? Well, not only am I a trial lawyer,
Starting point is 00:07:02 but I'm a mother and my husband's a rally fireman. And we hear after midnight all of the horrible things. And it is they preach to my children, don't go out after midnight. So when this guy sees this woman come out of the car and it's late night, early morning, you have to have your spidey senses up at that point. He was smart. Another thing that's so brazen about this, Karen Stark, not just the fact that we're getting on 3, 4, 5, 6 a.m. in the morning. People are starting to get up and get about. Is that he's in public.
Starting point is 00:07:40 If he'll do this in a Walgreens parking lot, what will he do if and when he gets this woman alone in a structure like a house or in the car he forced her into? With me, Karen Stark, renowned New York psychologist joining us. She's at KarenStark.com. That's Karen with a C. Karen, I mean, if he'll do, what does that tell you about the mindset of the perp? He's in public doing this. Yes, he has grandiosity.
Starting point is 00:08:09 This man has no feeling that anything bad is going to happen, that he can do whatever he wants, wherever he wants, and there will be no consequences. He's not even thinking about, well, what if somebody saw? What if someone will see? He'll put her back in the car, but it doesn't stop him or make him wonder, gee, will somebody call the police? Because he's thinking only about himself. He's narcissistic. He can't begin to imagine that anything but his little world that he's creating exists.
Starting point is 00:08:43 You know, Kathleen Murphy Murphy I've had it happen to me at trial so many times. I still believe in eyewitnesses and earwitnesses for that matter but they're always attacked. In fact it's in the statutory code that eyewitnesses can be questioned on xyz. Is your vision impaired? Do you have a clear line of vision of what you're you're talking about what was the lighting at any point was your vision obstructed these are points in the law that any lawyer worth their salt knows to go bam bam bam bam so we've got this guy who is a clerk at walgreens it's still dark outside in the early morning hours how good is his eyewitness account going to be if he's trying to describe the perp
Starting point is 00:09:33 he kind of got a little bit of a tag number there which i was pretty impressed with glh m32 a dark blue suv that's pretty good he knew enough to get that you don't normally get that well when i heard that he got the tag number it felt like he was following the perp. So maybe he was pulling into work. He saw it while he was still in his vehicle. I'm not sure, but it sounded like he was following the vehicle or that they were still in the parking lot together. I don't think he was in the store. So who attacks a woman at Walgreens in plain view? Why did she have her hands already tied together? Who? Listen.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Early Saturday morning, we believe that the suspect in this case, Mr. Trevor Summers, had been communicating with a 14-year-old daughter and had asked her to leave a window open so he could come into the house. She did that. He had led the 14-year-old to believe that he just wanted to come over and speak to the mother. Probably around in the very early morning hours of Saturday morning, he arrived and he came in the house. Tricking a 14-year-old little girl into leaving a bedroom window open. Take a listen to more from the Hillsborough County Sheriff. Shortly after he came into the house we have been told at this time that he told the 14 year old to take his car and to wait in the area she took a couple of the children out of the house at that time and waited in the area for several hours he was communicating with her by cell phone and i'm
Starting point is 00:11:20 talking about the 14 year old daughter and Mr. Summers. Probably around 530 in the morning he told her to come and pick the other children up which they drove back just a few blocks from the house, picked the other children up and then he allowed her to drive his car to his address. So this adult male tricks the 14-year-old girl into leaving a window open so he can get in and talk to mommy and take the other siblings away. Who advises a 14-year-old little girl to drive a car full of younger children off and wait while you, quote, talk to mommy? Nothing good is happening from that. Listen. So we have a 14-year-old who has all the children, and they drive to the Riverview address where they wait throughout the day.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And supposedly he is going to speak to the mother during the day, and they're going to try to work things out. That is what he told the 14-year-old. It wasn't until that night, Saturday night, we had not been notified of any of this, but that night we get the call at Walgreens where a female exits the car, appears to have her hands tied and a male puts her back into the car. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. So from Friday until Saturday night, when cops get a call about an unknown female screaming for help with her hands tied in a Walgreens parking lot, nobody, the rest of the family, the cops, nobody knows what's happening. It's Saturday, so nobody's missing from work. What happened between Friday and Saturday night?
Starting point is 00:13:38 Listen to our friends at Fox 13. I used the Christmas lights to tie me to the bed rails. At one point being hogtied, the pain was so incredible of shooting pain and spasms through my back from being in that position that I was crying out to him, begging him to please just roll me onto my side. Elisa broke down as she recounted how Summers sexually assaulted her twice and then tried to smother her to death with a pillow. She passed out and then woke up in a panic. This woman hogtied with Christmas lights tied to bed rails, begging as her perp raped her repeatedly. Rachel D. Fisher, special guest joining us, registered nurse and sex assault nurse examiner,
Starting point is 00:14:42 expert witness and author of Taking Back the Pen, private investigator. You can find her at Forensic Nursing Consulting. Rachel, when you see a rape victim come into the hospital, what is your immediate action? What do you do first? Our first priority is to make sure that they're safe and calm. We get a history from them of what happened. We get them to a safe room,
Starting point is 00:15:14 make sure the perpetrator isn't nearby, get them safe, and take a history of what happened. Then what? And then we do an assessment. We do a rape kit if it was a sexual assault where we go through all the areas and we fix flops into all of the areas that they've been hurt. We photograph the injuries. You know what, Rachel Fisher, I always admire that you are so compassionate in how you treat the victims that come before you. However, this is a time when I want facts. When you say you swab areas, that means you take a really long Q-tip looking thing.
Starting point is 00:15:55 That's, I would say, 7 to 9, 5 to 9 inches long. And you probe the woman's vagina and her anus to determine if there is sperm. You have to do a pelvic exam where you use a speculum to enlarge the vaginal opening so you can look around for trauma. Then you have to take a special comb and comb the pubic hair to find out if there are any other pubic hairs or fibers then you basically repeat the process with the woman's anus okay right is that what goes down yeah it's very basically taking the history of what happened to them and then in a medical sense
Starting point is 00:16:41 we're essentially redoing it to them you You're exposing them to being penetrated again and to be probed and stuck with medical devices. And it's very re-traumatizing for the patient. It can be. It really is. You know, women go every day, millions of women every day for a pelvic exam. No big deal. Hop on the table, leave, bam, over. But in this sense, after you've already been raped
Starting point is 00:17:07 repeatedly, and a lot of times rape victims are raped vaginally and they're also raped annually, and they don't want to state for some reason that they've been sodomized. I don't know why, because I'd want that perp to get his extra 20 to life, but that's just me. I remember one case, Rachel Fisher, turned out to be a murder, but it started with the guy was a serial rapist, and there was one woman, an Asian victim, and she did not want her community or her family or her husband to know she had been raped. It was so taboo.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And what she would say on the stand is that the perp kidnapped her, hogtied her, tied her up, threw her in a trunk, and beat her. She would never, ever admit to the rape so when you get the rape victims and you're to analyze them typically what state emotional state are they in so it depends a lot of times they're just completely in shock and they have a flat affect can't even say anything it's hard for them to even talk about it because what they went through was so traumatic so to retell us everything is traumatic in of itself and then to have us do this whole examination on them sometimes they're erratic sometimes they laugh they have different reactions to trauma but it is traumatizing to go through that and then to have to come to a complete stranger in a cold room and take off your clothes and expose yourself all over again. So that's why as an examiner, we look at everything,
Starting point is 00:18:49 even, you know, if they don't say that there was an anal assault, we still examine that, we still take swabs because you could get DNA, you could see injury, but they don't always remember the events, especially when asphyxiation is involved or strangulation or they pass out, they don't remember everything that happened. So it's important that while they're there with us, that we look at all the places they don't even tell us about. You know, I'm just going to ask if anybody on the panel disagrees, tell me. Is there something, or anybody here in the studio, Sid, Jack, everybody,
Starting point is 00:19:22 is there something that is so painful that happened to you or that you witnessed that you have never talked about it? I don't care what it is. I'm not going to ask you what it is. Of course there is. I mean, so I imagine that there are a lot of rape victims out there that never come forward. They never want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:19:44 It's like reliving it. Karen Stark, not only a renowned New York psychologist, but a friend, longtime colleague. Karen, what is that? Why are there things that hurt so much at the time that you have never once talked about them? Usually the reason is that people feel shame, humiliation, guilt. It's very hard when you think about it. And these are victims, but they wind up feeling like there's something I should have done or I should have prevented it. And it's embarrassing to have to admit that you've been through a situation like this, that someone has violated you. It's really awful that people can't talk about it because as a psychologist, the more that you talk about it, the better it actually is.
Starting point is 00:20:42 You get it out of you. You find out you're not alone. But until you're in a situation where you're willing to do that, people keep it to themselves. That's why if you ask that question that you asked, almost everybody has something that they've never shared and they feel humiliated and shameful about it. Or another thing, Karen Stark, is it feels like it's happening all over again. It feels like you're reliving it. You know how many years I went
Starting point is 00:21:10 without talking about Keith's murder? My fiance's murder? I hated talking about it. I wouldn't even tell people in the DA's office that I worked with for 10 straight years. I never mention it because it feels like it's happening all over again.
Starting point is 00:21:25 So you were just hearing this woman, as she described, being tied up with Christmas lights, hogtied and repeatedly raped. I'm just trying to take in everything that has happened to this mother. And what the daughter, the 14-year-old girl who probably feels like it's her fault for letting him through the window I mean Gloria Gomez joining me Fox 13 Tampa incredible investigative reporter how did he convince the 14 year old girl to leave the window open for him to get in. Actually, I interviewed Arden Summers, and she's 19 now. And she says that she believed her dad. Why wouldn't she? It's her dad. She thought that it was going to be a situation where she was going to be helpful in working things out
Starting point is 00:22:20 between her parents. I mean, what kid doesn't want their parents to stay together? That's what she wanted. She was 14 years old. She's listening to her dad convince her, basically lie to her that he was going to try to work things out with his, you know, her mom. And so she believed it. She was a kid.
Starting point is 00:22:40 She followed her instructions from her dad, leave the window unlocked so I can come in and talk to your mom, work things out. She did that. And now she feels guilty about it. She told me that recently. Greg Smith, Special Deputy Sheriff, joining us at Kelsey's Army. I guess it wouldn't dawn on a child, why would dad come through the window? Why doesn't he just come through the door?
Starting point is 00:22:58 No, I mean, a kid's going to trust their parents, your parents or your parents, no matter what's going on, what's happened. And if there's unrest in the house, the parents aren't getting along, the kids always want to try to get some kind of resolution between the parents so that there's some kind of normalcy in the family. You know, Kathleen Murphy, you've seen it all. Kathleen Murphy, joining me out of North Carolina at ncdomesticlaw.com. It's really the children who suffer so much in every kind of domestic situation. Doing this for as long as I've done this, 33 years,
Starting point is 00:23:33 it pains me to this day to see these children and what they have to put up with through the court system, whether it's a criminal court system or a family court system or a juvenile court system. It's always system or a juvenile court system, it's always the children. And I just have to shout out to this young lady because she takes it on and she needs to know very clearly that she's manipulated by a narcissist, by a manipulator. Well, you know what? If you think it can't get worse than being hogtied and with Christmas lights and repeatedly raped, it can. Listen. You came in and you put the pillow over my face with full force. Okay. In your statement here in this courtroom, you said that the look on my face was of death or of...
Starting point is 00:24:30 Evil and hatred. I believe your statement was that you knew I was going to kill you when you saw my face. Correct? Yes. How did you know what was in my face? Correct? Yes. How did you know what was in my heart? How did you know what was in my mind? All I saw was an expression of evil and hatred. And at that time, my thought is,
Starting point is 00:25:03 he's here to kill me. I'm going to die. What an idiot. He is actually questioning his victim. How did you know I was going to kill you? Well, that didn't help anything. Listen to our friends at Fox 13. Elisa cried as she recounted how Summers tried to smother her to death
Starting point is 00:25:21 and later raped her twice. Summers tried to suggest it was consensual during an awkward cross-examination. That only triggered a fiery response. Did I hold you down? You did push me. You did hold me down. You did tie me up. You did attack me and you did break into my home when I was sleeping.
Starting point is 00:25:43 You raped me. Gloria Gomez, what in the hay is this idiot doing questioning his own rape victim? And how dare he suggest it was consensual that he tie her up with Christmas lights and hog tie her and rape her over and over. Nancy, you got to understand, Trevor Summers thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. He thinks he can manipulate the entire situation, that the jury was going to believe him, that he was just trying to work things out with Elisa. But every question he asked just made it worse. And that jury, I was watching them.
Starting point is 00:26:26 They were literally piercing at him during this cross-examination, knowing that he's once again re-victimizing her. And there she is on the stand having to relive the entire thing. Listen. Described as obsessed and controlling when it came to his estranged wife, Elisa. She believed that the defendant, Trevor Summers, was going to kill her. They say on March 11th of 2017, he tricked his daughter, Arden, who was 14 at the time, to let him into the house despite having a restraining order against him. Once inside, he attacked Elisa and held her against her will before kidnapping her. She is hog tied at points. She is tied with Christmas tree lights tied down to her bed. And then more. Take a listen to our friend Gloria
Starting point is 00:27:21 Gomez, Fox 13. Summer stopped at a Walgreens and that's when Elisa, with her arms tied behind her back, tried to get away. Don't, don't, don't call the police. Randall Crosby was working at Walgreens at the time and witnessed all of it. I'd seen and heard a woman running and screaming in the parking lot. He says a man he identified as Summers forced the woman back into the car and took off. A blanket that was draped over her was left in the parking lot. As police closed in, Summers wrote goodbye letters to his five children and tried to kill Elisa twice by choking her and nearly smothering her to death. Kathleen Murphy, family lawyer joining us out of North Carolina, trial veteran.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Kathleen, the single most dangerous time, and I'm guessing Rachel Fisher is going to agree, as well as Karen Stark, for a woman is when she is trying to leave and she will not reconcile reconcile with the male that is correct but in this particular situation they were not together immediately prior to this crime occurring which is interesting i think he was trying to reconcile remember they were meeting up you're right to quote talk about the divorce or at least gloria gomez fox 13 he wanted to talk about the upcoming divorce and stop it. I don't think she felt the same way. Well, a lot of it was rooted also that she started seeing someone and he found out about it.
Starting point is 00:28:56 So that triggered that response of I'm going to get her back or no one else is going to have her. And Karen Starkey thinks in his effort to get her back, sneaking in through the window, having the 14-year-old drive away with the other four minor children and what, hide out in the car, and hog-tying her with Christmas lights and raping her over and over, that's somehow going to woo her back? Well, Nancy, you are being very rational.
Starting point is 00:29:22 This is not a guy who's sitting there and thinking, well, what is the rational guy who's sitting there and thinking, well, what is the rational thing for me to do here? Obviously, he feels like my ego has been bruised. She's with somebody else. I don't want this to happen. It's not about,
Starting point is 00:29:37 I want to have a good life. I want to have a good life. I want my children to be okay. It's about him. It's about him. She can't leave me. She can't do this to be okay. It's about him. It's about him. She can't leave me. She can't do this to me. And I'm getting revenge. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. What can you tell me, Gloria Gomez, about the goodbye letters he wrote to their five children?
Starting point is 00:30:12 What did those letters say? It talked about how he wanted a better life for them, that, you know, that mommy and daddy were going to miss them, and that this had to be done. And he basically said that they loved him, that he loved the children, but this was the way it had to be. And that was it. You know, I think that would be my biggest fear is to be separated from my children, Karen Stark. And here is a mother of five who finally gets free of this guy. She's rebuilding her life. She's the one living with the five children and taking care of them. When this a-hole comes
Starting point is 00:30:54 through the window, kidnaps her, rapes her over and over, tries to smother her multiple times, I think the worst part of all of that would be being taken away from your children. Can you imagine five children left without mother? And we know, Nancy, that there are situations where the outcome is not as good as this one, where children are left without their mother. And it's horrific. I think two of the young children were actually in the room when he first entered. And the whole time he was in touch with his daughter, with the 14-year-old.
Starting point is 00:31:34 And she is blaming herself, absolutely blaming herself for having let her dad go in through the window. And they were really just trying to get their family back together again. There was a new man and they were not happy about that. They were so innocent. They were really innocent. And here she is thinking, that's it. I'm going to lose my five children. This is the end. I can only imagine what was going through her mind during all of this. Well, it didn't end there. And we can only thank Crosby from Walgreens for saving this woman's life. Listen. This morning, we had a citizen who alerted us that a car fitting that description was parked right in this area. And it's in the area of the crime scene tape close to me we
Starting point is 00:32:25 converged on this area the car left and traveled about you know within a mile of this area and went into a garage area park board area of a house still on stilts and just parked there theuties, some uniformed and some plainclothes deputies, converged on that address and attempt to rescue the victim. You know, interesting, I mentioned David Crosby as calling police when he sees the victim being forced into a car with their hands tied, but then another citizen, this is very reminiscent of the Gabby Petito case, when the whole country was looking for Gabby Petito. And then a civilian, red, white, and Bethune, remember that was their name, Jackie, their handle online,
Starting point is 00:33:19 was out camping and they saw a van that was similar to Gabby Petito's and called it in. And that's how Gabby was ultimately found. So, Gloria Gomez joining us, Fox 13. You have another citizen who knows the description of the SUV from Walgreens parking lot and sees it parked where? I believe that that's where the safe house was in a remote area of Hillsborough County. So wait a minute, he takes the car, he takes her in the SUV and then hides out so nobody can find him? Right. They go off and apparently Elisa's testimony is that they drove around he was looking for a quote safe house
Starting point is 00:34:07 that he knew of and finally ended up in a remote area out in the outskirts of Tampa probably about 25 miles from Tampa again and ended up in this home and that's where the Good Samaritan saw that description of the vehicle called it in and then police surrounded the home. That is amazing, Gloria Gomez. And Greg Smith joining us with the Johnson County Sheriff's Office and Kelsey'sArmy.com. I've got no doubt in my mind, Greg Smith, he took her out to this remote location to kill her. Oh, absolutely. I mean, that's a common thing. One of the things that
Starting point is 00:34:47 we teach at the Kelsey Smith Foundation is if you leave crime scene one, you're not going to survive crime scene two. Crime scene one is usually where the abduction takes place, and then they take you someplace where they feel safe, where they think they're in control, where they can do whatever they want. So by all means, he had a plan. I don't know that he had it planned out, but he had a plan that he was at least making up on the plot. I think, Nancy, his original plan was to charter a boat and go out to sea and then to kill both of them.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And to dump her body. And, you know, how often is it that we see the mastermind kill the other person in the murder-suicide pact and then amazingly they managed to live in any event he was set to kill her leaving five orphans behind but listen to our friends at WKMG some breaking new developments in Hillsborough County where deputies say a woman kidnapped by her estranged husband has just been found. The sheriff's office says the suspect convinced their 14-year-old daughter to leave a window open on Friday night so he could come in and talk to his ex about their marriage. The sheriff said today Trevor Summers told the girl to take his car and drive her four siblings to his house. On Saturday, deputies say a witness saw a man force a woman into an SUV outside of a Walgreens.
Starting point is 00:36:13 They say the woman had her hands tied behind her back and was screaming for help before she was pushed back into that car. Deputies say Trevor Summers was tracked down after a tip this morning. They say he resisted arrest and appeared to have a self-inflicted knife wound? Please stop. He does all this to his wife, then he scratches himself on the neck, and I'm supposed to feel sorry for him? I'm not.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I don't feel sorry for him. To hay with him. And he manages to survive his suicide attempt. But wait a minute. Listen to our cut 17, Jackie. Our friends at WFLA. Summers and her attorney spent nearly five hours in court today for a grueling custody battle between her and her husband. And when they walked out today, they were not happy with the outcome.
Starting point is 00:37:05 It took something like this to occur for the police to even take her seriously. And I can't say what happened today, but I can tell you that we're very disappointed in the outcome today. Attorney Stephen Glaro says his client, Elisa Summers, won't give up fighting for her children. The five kids, ranging in age from 14 to 3 years old, are currently staying with Trevor Summers' parents. He remains
Starting point is 00:37:28 behind bars accused of kidnapping her Saturday. This is going to prevent other people from coming forward when there's domestic violence. Okay, Gloria Gomez, Fox 13, I don't understand. He rapes and kidnaps her, tries to kill her repeatedly, and some judge
Starting point is 00:37:43 didn't give her full custody? Right. It was one of those situations where Elisa was so upset and frustrated, not understanding why the justice system would do this to her. And she fought it and fought it. And then Trevor Summers' parents got involved. And so that complicated matters even more. It was a legal mess. And so now she's dealing with the criminal case,
Starting point is 00:38:09 but she's also dealing with the family matter case. What idiot judge would not give her custody? I don't understand that, Gloria. It happened. It happened. It took a while for things to get sorted out, but it was messy for a while. That judge needs to be thrown off the bench,
Starting point is 00:38:23 but I can now give you the good news. Take a listen to our cut 28 WTSP. Guilty, a man accused of kidnapping and holding his former wife hostage, was found guilty in all charges by a jury today. their 14-year-old daughter into taking his car and leaving with her four younger siblings while Summers went into the house and took their mother, Alyssa Summers. She was later found after someone spotted her trying to escape. By a miracle, she escaped with her life and then has a judge not give her full custody. We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace Crumstory signing off.
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