Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Finding Chase Massner ep 4: Mom confronts last man to see son

Episode Date: April 3, 2017

Stephanie Cadena never met the last known person to see her son Chase Massner because detectives asked her not to contact Brad Clements. But as Massner's disappearance is handed off to the cold case u...nit, Nancy Grace arranges for the mother to surprise the key witness in an effort to get answers. This 4th episode takes you inside the motel room the morning it happened. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. This is a special episode of Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Finding Chase Masner, Episode 4. This week marks three years since her son, Chase Masner, vanished in Cobb County. Living the last three years with the not knowing and without him here is pure hell. Chas Massner is an Iraq War veteran, a husband, a father. His wife told us she dropped him off at a quick trip in Cobb County where he works. His family says he was last seen at a friend's house in Kennesaw three years ago on March 27th.
Starting point is 00:00:41 It's like he vanished from that home not to be seen or heard from again. If he was able to reach out to any one of us, he would, he would. Despite some intense searching, few clues have been found. She tells me that as a mother, in her heart, she feels her son Chase is dead. We have absolutely no answers at all.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Not even the slightest clue in three years. We're back at square one, Stephanie, because we have to talk to Brad. That's the missing link here. Now, we know he has refused to polygraph and then stated again he will take a polygraph. I'm going looking for him. Okay? Okay. Armed with nothing but my iPhone. And I am going looking for him okay armed with nothing but my iPhone
Starting point is 00:01:25 and I am going to find him and I'm going to ask him what happened I'm going to see what story he's going to tell me and we'll take it from there will you take a polygraph with me do you want me to take a polygraph yes not sitting right here
Starting point is 00:01:40 I'll set one up and just put the whole thing to rest I mean I can if that's what it takes but it's just that's probably it's it's not a big deal there's a hard at all I mean cuz now I know where you live kind of so we done then that means on the way all the? On the way here? To Dina. Yeah. Right now? Yeah. Dude, no, man. My apartment's destroyed. No, this is, this is.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I didn't know that. I want to take a shower. I was trying to give you an interview. I don't want to tell you. Imagine not knowing whether your child is dead or alive. Imagine wondering every night when you put your head to the pillow, where is he tonight? Does he need me? Is he hurting? Is he disoriented? Is he far from home? Is he dead? This is Crime Stories. I'm Nancy Grace. I am talking
Starting point is 00:02:34 about missing young man, a husband and father of two little girls, an Iraqi war vet, a son, Chase Masner. For so long, his mother, Stephanie Kadena, has wanted to speak to the last person to see him alive. That person I called the wild card, Brad Clement, the last person to see Chase alive. And now, Stephanie is going to join us to put those questions to Brad Clements that she's wanted to ask for so long. SimpliSafe, our sponsor today, thank you for making this podcast possible, for making it possible for us to bring together Stephanie Kadena, who is looking for her son, along with us, Chase Masner, introducing Stephanie to the last person to see Chase alive. That we know of. SimpliSafe makes home security available and affordable for everybody.
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Starting point is 00:04:19 Brad, the last person that, as of right now now we know saw Chase alive. And I know you've got a lot of questions. Hit it. What was the last thing Chase said to you? When was the last time you talked to him? Last time I talked to him, I mean, we were just talking about him and Amanda pretty much. And, you know, it was the exact words I can't remember because, I mean, we were pretty much just having a good time. Like that was, you know, he'd come over and we were just, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:58 again, I pretty much reiterated the fact that he was a lucky guy to have, you know, a wife and two little girls that loved him. And, I mean, that's all I would ever really tell him about that. Like, we never got really into depth of, you know, how they were fighting or what they were fighting over. I think he mainly just wanted to kind of, you know, a break from her. And, you know, that was... What do you think they were fighting about?
Starting point is 00:05:24 I mean, I think it was about him working and then her not working. And, you know, basically, you know, her, you know, wanting more money or something. And then, you know, he was mad at her because she wasn't working. And, you know, he was working his butt off, like, a quick trip all the time. And I think she was about to get a job. She had just gotten a job right and um you know that's really I mean the the extent of like kind of what we talked about with him I mean it it seemed that you know that wasn't that that really wasn't like why he wanted to come hang out with me I think it was more or less just to get away from her,
Starting point is 00:06:07 just to kind of have a break from her. But whatever he said about going to sleep in the woods and stuff like that, I never really believed him. Did he actually say that to you? Yeah, he actually said that, but it was more like he told her that, rather than telling me that I'm going to go sleep in the woods. He me that, you know, I'm going to go sleep in the woods. He's like, I told her I was going to go sleep in the woods, you know, as, you know, just to kind of. Had he ever actually done that before? Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And I mean, that I think he was just telling her that just to kind of get her to, you know. Shut up? To scare her, you know, or, you know, try to get her to listen more. And, you know, know I never all the PTSD stuff or the bipolarness I never saw that in him like he was always really happy around me and you know really cheerful guy like he was fun to be around like I mean he was a nice guy like that's why I was you know all about helping him out the best I could like I mean he never never seemed like the suicidal type or anything like that
Starting point is 00:07:05 like I never saw that part of him at all and I mean yeah I mean he seemed like and now I mean I just remember like his ringtone from being over my house that day was the Pharrell song where it's like I'm happy you know his ringtone and everything and like you know he would like you know dance to it and yeah he was a really happy guy like I always funny yeah and like I never saw this you know bipolar you know crazy mean that Amanda would kind of paint to me about it you know from the couple times I talked to her like the 20 years before that I raised him before joining the army I never saw it either. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I mean, and like I said, I didn't really know him that long, but I never, never saw that, you know, that dark side of him that people say or, you know, just bothered me about this whole thing was that it was, you know, I never saw any of the stuff that, you know, of him, you know, being, you know, crazy to Amanda or whatnot or the stuff that she says, you know, about them fighting. What does she say that he did? I mean, it was just, I mean, what does she say? Just, you know, about screaming in front of the kids and stuff like that. And that's pretty much, you know, what she said. Didn't she say she'd put him out of the car?
Starting point is 00:08:33 Yeah, but they would start arguing about something, and then he would start screaming in front of the kids, and then she would make him get out of the car to stop yelling in front of the girls pretty much. And, I mean, I's that night she dropped him off at that quick trip that um they were screaming and yelling in front of the kids but when i picked him up he was inside the quick trip you know already kind of you know being chase funny guy like you know the picture that it looks like he's like really messed up on drugs that you see on facebook like he was just what were the two drinks he was holding?
Starting point is 00:09:05 Energy drinks. Yeah, and he was just messing around, like, just being a funny guy. You know, that was Chase. You know, he was, you know, if anything, just, you know, laid-back guy that was, you know, a smoker. You know, just chill. And that's, I was kind of just some of the, you know, I enjoyed being around him. I thought he was a cool guy, you know. What happened that day?
Starting point is 00:09:28 So you pick him up that night at Quick Trip because you got a call to come get him. And where did you guys go? Just my house. And that wasn't very far away. I mean, you could walk there from the Quick Trip. And when you got home to your place, that was like a four-bedroom, something, something home. And you stood up all night putting a computer together. And what was he doing?
Starting point is 00:09:50 Just, you know, talking. Like he loved, I mean, he was sitting there talking to me about stuff. And like we were just, you know, he wanted to, he asked me about getting some of those pain pills, the things or whatnot. And I guess him and Amanda had, had been, you know, getting gotten from Alan before the, um, what are they? The, um, the Roxy contents. Yeah. That's what I was telling you earlier. But, you know, I told him, you know, from my experience with that stuff that, you know, stuff's the devil. Like I was in a motorcycle wreck and I was prescribed those for like a long time. And mean it's just like if you're not taking those you don't need to take them don't take them because that's the devil to get off of and uh so he stayed up all night with you talking about Amanda and him I mean we didn't really talk about
Starting point is 00:10:40 Amanda and him that long you know there's been one theory floating around that Chase had been mad at his mom that night, but he never mentioned that to you? No. In fact, did he mention that he had been arguing with Amanda? Yeah, there was nothing about his mom that he said in any kind of negative way. I mean, there was, I mean, that, that was, you know, if anything, you know, I mean, I know he loved you and little girls. Like, because he was even saying that, you know, how he would stay, you know, with you. And, you know, like, nothing negative, though. Like, there was nothing that he was mad at you about anything at all. Like, I wouldn't say that, you know, that he was mad at you about anything. Like, there's nothing came up that he said you know oh well my mom you know
Starting point is 00:11:25 did you know whatever it was only him and amanda like i mean that's the only person that he had it out after you know with i mean for sure i mean and that's you know it's been you know three years but i guarantee you that if he would have said something about you, I would have remembered it. So the day that he goes missing, you get up that morning around 8 a.m. to go deliver the computer to Ricky. You come back. He's there. You want to work in your bedroom where he is, so you move him to a guest bedroom.
Starting point is 00:12:04 He's asleep on the bed because he's been up all night talking and then you go to Publix and Lowe's you get back around two and what happens I started cooking started cooking for you know because I thought I was under the impression that Amanda was going to come over and you know he was going to come over and I was going to be able to kind of talk to him on neutral ground why did you think she was coming because I talked to her earlier, and I was going to be able to kind of talk to him on neutral ground. Why did you think she was coming? Because I had talked to her earlier. You talked to her? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I talked to her on the phone. Yeah. I talked to her on text messaging from his phone. See, I thought you told him to call her. No. No. I did tell him to call her, and I thought he did. But that was after I gave him his phone back.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Okay. So you called her, and did she say she had to be at a hearing or something all day no I see I she didn't say anything like that to me um did she say she was going to come over she never really said that she was going to be there for sure but that's kind of why I told Chase to call her and just you know because I wanted to kind of squash this and just you know just kind of get them out together yeah and just because they seem like you know it was just something actually talked to her and texted with her that day from chase's phone okay yeah and uh yeah i mean that's i was just trying to help like and that's all i was ever trying to do was just trying to help you know i thought i thought i was helping at that point because, did you want to say something?
Starting point is 00:13:29 Did you get the feeling that Chase did not want her to come over? Yes, I did. And that's kind of, you know, what, you know, was, you know, but I wanted her to come over so that they, you know, I could stop that. Why do you say that? Why do you say you got that feeling? Because when I asked him to call her and woke him up, he was just like, oh, man, he did that really? Why did you do that, Brad?
Starting point is 00:13:54 And I was just like, this needs to be done so we can get past this. You can leave. Well, I just thought I was helping at this point. Like, I really thought that, you know, I was actually doing some good because the first time, you know, they, you know, both of them were like, thanks for talking, you know, to Chase, yada, yada, yada. And so I'm under this impression that I'm actually, you know, helping out, you know, this couple that's got these two little girls and stuff and doing actually, you know, a good deed and uh you know if if i would have known it was going to end up like this i i would have just you know been like hey guys i'm sorry you know but i you know i don't know what else i can do but just tell you guys that you need to work it out i do want to know stuff did you want to know about that friday when brad went back over to... Well we actually started talking about that earlier. What? Friday is the day that I reported Chase missing. Yeah. And then I
Starting point is 00:14:53 just did it out of a motherly instinct and then I called Amanda and said, the sheriff's on his way because I'm recording him missing. That was around noon on Friday. And we did the report, and I wanted her to stay with me because I was panicked. And is that the night that she called you and had you come to her house? But it was probably 8 o'clock before I got over there. She didn't leave until around 6 or 7, but she had to go. I mean, it was dark outside, and I know, because I had my husky with me.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I brought him over there to play with the little girls, because I'd always take him to, like, the Ronald McDonald House and the Shepherd Center and stuff like that. Sorry, I'm not sure what you said. So you took your dog to the Ronald McDonald House? Yeah, I've taken him there before. Wow. Okay, and Shepherd's final? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Nice. Yeah. So why did she call you after Chase goes missing? I mean, I thought she just, you know, she was like, can you bring me some pot? Like, I thought she just kind of wanted to talk and smoke. And, you know, I kind of wanted to kind of go see what was going on with all this, if he was really missing and just, you know, like because at this point,
Starting point is 00:16:18 I had no clue what was going on, like, you know. And so I just went over there and talked to her. And, you know, she seemed kind of like not so frantic that he was missing, though. Like, that she, you know, that wasn't really what she was worried about, it seemed. Like, that she was more worried about getting in trouble for something. Like, the pot that they had growing or something. Like, it just seemed like her, I guess her morals were off on it i mean just that did she even mention where is he what happened i mean she she asked like do you know you know
Starting point is 00:16:54 if he was really suicidal or you know it's like why would she ask me this when she knew him better than i did like and she knew what he was like is. Is that the first time anybody's hit suicide was her? Yeah, I think so. I mean, she asked me, you know, what kind of mood was he in, and I was like, man, he was happy. He seemed like he was his good old self. He didn't seem like the guy that would run off and hide in the woods or something like that. I was never under any kind of impression that he you know, that he was going to do that.
Starting point is 00:17:26 What else did she say while you were over there? Did she get high? Yeah. She scraped the grinder that I brought over. And, you know, I pretty much just played with the dog and let him play with the little girls. And the other, I guess they had another dog over there. And, you know, just playing with my dog, really. And, like, I felt bad for the little girl.
Starting point is 00:17:47 So, like, just, you know, because Amanda just didn't really seem like she was focused on much. Kind of just, you know, was just didn't seem like somebody that lost her husband or, like, knew that he was, you know, gone. Did Sydney, the oldest girl, realize anything at that time? I don't think so. So she was smoking in front of her kids? Yeah, I mean, the kids were, like, inside. I mean, she wasn't, like, sitting there, like, you know, we were on the back porch, and then, I mean, she was just, you know, because I had, like, a little grinder that my roommate had that had, like, the resin stuff in it that you can, like, scrape out. I mean, that's all I even had because I wasn't even smoking at that point. And, you know, it was, I wasn't over there too long either, you know, really. It's like I brought her to the pot. We talked for 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Do you think she was upset that Stephanie called police? I mean, she didn't really say like, you know, anything about Chase's mom. Like she didn't really say, like, you know, anything about Chase's mom. Like, she didn't really bring anything about that up, like, that I can remember. Why would anybody have thought Chase was suicidal? I never said it. I never said that. Did you think, did you go under the premise that Amanda had come and picked him up from your house while you were at Lowe's? I always thought she picked him up when I was either like right where I was at Publix or right when I got back like because when I went upstairs to go get him I mean I was like I ran up there because I had set the backyard
Starting point is 00:19:18 on fire and I was like man did you you know I just remember I was kind of like really you know I had a lot of energy because I just put I was kind of like really, you know, I had a lot of energy because I just put out this big fire in my backyard. And that's when I realized he wasn't there. And then I, you know, the roofers, because they had just come inside because I had to get them off the roof because it was so smoky. And, you know, I asked them, I was like, did y'all see my buddy leave? And, you know, they were like, you know, who? You know, it didn't, like, nobody was there, like, type deal.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And, you know, the three Hispanic guys didn't really speak English. So, you know, I just kind of, you know. Taught to the one. Yeah, Brandon. Yeah. But, I mean, I was always under the impression that they thought that they saw him leave just because they were up there on the roof. And, you know, I was coming and going. And, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:10 But they didn't. I guess not. I mean, I always thought they did. But there was a voicemail, wasn't there a voicemail where you left Chase a voicemail on his phone? Hey, man, where did you go? Something like that in there? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah, I mean, that's when I was, like, calling him, you know, trying to, you know, figure out, you know, but that's what he always did. He always left, you know, and just wouldn't return my calls, like, for a couple days, and then would be like, yo, man, I'm all right, you know, I'm doing such and such, or I left with Amanda, and because that was the first time I talked to him, that's the same thing he did. Like, they just, he just left, you know, and didn't tell me he was leaving, And, you know, Amanda would just show up all of a sudden. And I think she'd be like, Hey, I'm here. Come on, let's go. And that was that. But in the voicemail, didn't you say, Hey man, the roofers saw you leave. Where'd you go? Something like that.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I mean, I don't know. I was probably just saying that just so he'd come back. Like, I mean, cause I just wondered, um, I bought all this food too. And I was probably just saying that just so he'd come back. Like, I mean, because I just wanted him. I bought all this food, too. And I had, like, you know, just a bunch of it went to waste. And I wanted him to come back just to kind of, you know, eat some food and kind of squash the whole thing with him and Amanda. Like, I really wanted to. Like, I really thought I was helping at this point. So I really wanted to talk to him, like, both, you know, and kind of just.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Like I said, I mean, at this point I thought I was helping out, you know, and kind of just, like I said, I mean, at this point, I thought I was helping out, you know, and, you know, I guess, you know, they had their own agenda or whatnot, I mean. When you went over there to see her that night, after she called you and wanted you to come over, did you ever say, well, didn't you pick him up? Yeah, I mean, that's the whole thing I told her when she called me the first time. She's like, no, I didn't pick him up yeah i mean that's that's the whole thing i told her when she called me the first time she's like no i didn't pick him up like and then that was that like like you know and then we would talk about something else it was just like that's that was the big thing was that she just never seemed that worried like she never seemed like she didn't know where he was. Like it was, you know, she was more wanting to get stoned or just kind of wanting to, you know, I guess just, you
Starting point is 00:22:15 know, get on with her life or something. I don't know. It was just, she never seemed that concerned. How did her place look, Nate, clean? I mean, she had like two other roommates. It was like, um, it was pretty clean. I mean, it didn't seem messy. She had roommates? Mm-hmm. Well, I guess she had like her sisters. Her sisters. Yeah. And, uh... I wonder if police ever talked to them. I don't think so. so because what was it like they said he was at like the walgreens or something or the not
Starting point is 00:22:45 walgreens but at the the bp off wade green or something like the following night yeah we got a report that that he was at um i don't some kind of gas station yeah i don't know who reported it but it was because they were told that chase wanted to go get some beer and he didn't have his license. So he asked you to take him to the BP. Yeah, see, I just would have bought him beer because I knew he was 21 and it was right there on the quick trip. We were talking about that earlier. And, I mean, that was just, yeah, yeah. I mean, they knew he was 21.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Yeah, that makes sense. And, like, it's just, you know, just random stuff like that that, you know, is really kind of throwing stuff up. How do you respond to what everyone's saying about you on Facebook and social media? How do I respond? Just, I just, you know, every time I've said anything, it's, you know, been turned around or, you know, I said this, you know, I'm changing my story. And it's like my story might have changed by like an hour or something just because I can't remember exactly where I was at this point but it's been the same the whole time I mean and you know I just try to stay away from the Facebook yeah just I mean it's
Starting point is 00:23:57 how many times have you talked to detective twigs oh I talked to him a bunch like right after um you know anytime he called me I talked to him and bunch, like, right after. You know, anytime they call me, I talk to them. And I let them come to my house, search my house, you know. When the dogs came out, I let them walk around. Like, I mean, there's been nothing that I've tried to, like, hold back. You know, anything, any way that I could have helped, I've tried. You know, and I've done everything anybody's asked of me, police-wise, legal-wise. Yeah, today, when I showed up at the door, just opened the door and we went in.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I mean. No preparation, no warning, nothing. Brandon Duck said that he tripped over what looked like a grave in your backyard, and you said that it was your dog. Is that true? Yeah. Do you remember that? Yeah, that's a little tiny, tiny, tiny little stone that says bandit on it.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Oh, it's a stone. Yeah. Okay. And that was my ex-girlfriend's dog. So, yeah. But, I forgot about that. That's sad. My dog, that's how I have my husky that I have now, actually.
Starting point is 00:25:01 That's like a whole other story. So, but. And he swears if I hook him up, he'll take a lie detector. actually. But that's like a whole other story. So, but... And he swears if I hook him up, he'll take a lie detector. And I think he will. I mean, I will, but it's... I think he'll pass. I do. I mean... So, I don't really think he was the last person to see Chase. I mean, I wish I could tell you more. I really do. I really wish I could tell you where he was. I really do.
Starting point is 00:25:27 He had one bag. He had one bag, right? So he could have left with that. A backpack. A backpack. He did. He left with it. The only thing we haven't checked is that guy down the street who we think.
Starting point is 00:25:40 If they still live there now. No, he doesn't. I went back there, but I don't know police have tried it because chase i told police about him i told police about that i did tell police that that dude was selling stuff and that chase wanted to go over there right so i mean you even won chase money i did and this is the thing that strikes me um if you gave him 60 dollars he didn't go leave right then to go get whatever, did he? Because he went to sleep.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Yeah. And usually, you know, somebody off the record, somebody that's an addict, especially if you're talking about getting some heroin or something, you don't go to sleep and then go, believe me, I know. Did he talk to you about heroin? I mean, I didn't even know he'd use heroin. I was never under that impression. Do you think he did?
Starting point is 00:26:24 I mean, like. Listen, I've never heard anything about'd use heroin. I was never under that impression. Do you think he did? I mean, like... Listen, I've never heard anything about him using heroin. He said Oxy. He wanted Oxy that night, right? I never heard anything like that at all before. And he... I mean, I was very aware of their pot smoking because he would always say to me, Mom, if you would just try pot and stop drinking wine
Starting point is 00:26:47 you would be so much more healthy so we would have like a mother-son debate back and forth um it's not something he hid but he never ever talked about using hard drugs just tell me did he was he no heroin no i that, that was one thing that, like, you know. Did a man ever mention to you that he was using heroin? No, I was never under that impression at all. Did he ever try to score heroin around you? No, no. Believe me, he would have. There was a rumor that you were Chase's dealer back in high school. I did not even know him then. I mean, like I'd known Chase, gosh, maybe a couple months, like when all this happened, but no, I was never a dealer to people. Did you know Clint Garrison? I don't think so. Was that his friend?
Starting point is 00:27:39 It was one of his friends. What about Devin? No, I don't know any of those people. Devin, as soon as I called him that night. Dustin. Who was Alan? Alan was my roommate. Right, okay. Oh, yeah, right, right. Yeah, and he's the one that started the whole heroin thing with me because friggin' he was doing the pills with them
Starting point is 00:27:59 and, like, would basically hook them up with the Roxy pills. Who? Alan. Alan would hook who up with Roxy? Amanda and Chase with the Roxy pills. Who? Alan. Alan would hook who up with Roxy? Amanda and Chase with the Roxy pills. And he had like a pain pill, you know, addiction thing going on. And he knew that I had had them from when I was in my motorcycle wreck. And, I mean, he would always try to get me to go back to like the pain clinics and stuff to go get.
Starting point is 00:28:22 To get him so he could have them. Yeah, yeah. And it's like. Because you were one of them at one one time you had gotten off right and uh and i mean that was you know i never like i said wish that upon anybody opiate addiction is one of the worst things in the world i mean that that's about killed me when i had to stop taking them i mean it was you know i was on a lot do you think Chase would have killed himself? No, no.
Starting point is 00:28:46 There's not one part of me at all that thinks he would have done that. Like, I mean, just for his little girl's sake. I mean, I know he loved his little girl. Like, there's not one part of it. No kind of suicidal talk. No. I mean, he wasn't even depressed. He was happy.
Starting point is 00:29:03 The three days he was with me, he was happy. He was loving. He hugged me. He seemed like, if anything, a man that was bringing him down, and he wanted to get away from her that was bringing him down. When she called him and she told him to get ready, he did not want to go. He did not want to go he did not want to go and it the closer she got the more agitated he got and then when she they were screaming at each other on
Starting point is 00:29:33 the phone and he was holding the phone out like this because she was screaming so loud and then she when she got there she he was telling her that maybe it would be best if we wait until tomorrow, something along those lines. And she was in the driveway. She said, I'm in the effing driveway. What do you want me to do? So he just threw his phone down and started getting his stuff together. Is there any reason that makes you think she picked him up that day? Just because of the fact that she never came over to my house to look for him there.
Starting point is 00:30:12 That is a big thing for me. And then the way she called, when I talked to her when she called me, it was almost just like, okay, he's not you know just not really caring you know just didn't seem like it was a that important to her that he was missing and that's kind of you know just you know that's what i was kind of talking about this morning was you know why wouldn't she show up at my house and just be like you look where's chase if he that was the last place that he was seen and she knew he was there, why wouldn't she just come over there and make sure, you know, that he wasn't there? If I would have known you, I would have been at your door.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Yeah. I didn't know who you were. I mean, and she knew there. She knew she'd been in the house a couple times. She knew how to get there. So if she says she doesn't know how to get there, that's BS. Like, she knew how to get to my house. It's not very far from the queer trip and she had been there several times and i mean you know just
Starting point is 00:31:10 for her to call me and tell me to come over to her house you know instead of you know the last place that he was seen missing and you know seriously looking for him not coming to my house like just was kind of a red flag to me. And, you know, that's why I always just thought this was going to just blow over and she would end up, you know, saying, you know, where he was or whatnot. And I mean, I never imagined it would have gone to this extent of him, you know, not being found or shown up. Like, I just, you know, never realized it would, you know, come to this. What a day. I feel like a wet wash rag just limp after hearing and seeing and experiencing what
Starting point is 00:31:58 all Stephanie Kadena has been through, even now, in the search for her son, Chase Masner. Amanda, won't you come forward and talk to us? If not for you, for your daughters, they need to know their dad. They need to know what happened to their dad. For their sake, please help us find Chase. Simply Safe, again, thank you for sponsoring our podcast today. You make home security available for everyone, and it's so easy to install. They've even got a video online for you to see. Go to simplysafe.com slash Nancy for additional percentage off. Simply Safe, I'm proud you're our sponsor, and I thank you for what you are making possible for Chase Masner's family. Thank you, SimpliSafe. Today, the mystery, the investigation of Chase Masner will be handed over
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