Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - FLORIDA WOMAN FILMS HERSELF LAUGHING, LEAVES LOVER TO DIE IN SUITCASE: GUILTY

Episode Date: November 16, 2024

A jury has convicted Sarah Boone in the suitcase death of her boyfriend. Boone called 911, telling the operator that she and her boyfriend had been playing around, and she fell asleep. When she woke up the next morning, Jorge Torres, Jr. was dead inside a suitcase, but that isn't exactly true. Although it's unclear how Boone convinced her 42-year-old boyfriend to get into the suitcase, we do know she zipped him inside and refused to let him out, no matter how much he begged. We know this because Boone recorded the incident on her phone, taunting Torres as he said he couldn't breathe and pleaded to be released. Boone claims the couple had been drinking a bottle of wine and decided to play hide-and-seek. Court records show Torres had been in the suitcase for about three hours when Boone says she fell asleep, waking up late the next day. She says she then remembered Torres was still in the suitcase, pulled him out, found his body was purple, and attempted CPR. However, she also called her ex-husband before dialing 911. Boone, 46,  convicted of second-degree murder in Jorge Torres's death.  Joining Nancy Grace today:  Phillip Dubé  – Court-Appointed Counsel, Los Angeles County Public Defenders: Criminal & Constitutional Law, Forensics & Mental Health Advocacy Dr. Bethany Marshall – Psychoanalyst (Beverly Hills); X: @DrBethanyLive/ Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall; Appearing in “Paris in Love” on Peacock; BOOK: “Deal Breaker: When to work on a relationship and when to walk away” Robin Dreeke – Behavior Expert & Retired FBI Special Agent / Chief of the FBI Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program; Author: “Sizing People Up: A Veteran FBI Agents Manual for Behavior Prediction;” X: @rdreekeke Dr. Kendall Crowns – Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth) and Lecturer: University of Texas Austin and Texas Christian University Medical School Stephanie Buffamonte - News Reporter FOX 35 Orlando FB: https://www.facebook.com/StephanieBuffamonteFOX35  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. In the last hours, the so-called suitcase killer, Sarah Boone, shows no emotion in court as a jury hands down a verdict. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. In the last days,

Sarah Boone, the so-called suitcase killer, found guilty of second-degree murder after her boyfriend was found, quote, stiff and purple, zipped inside of a suitcase. What happened? All we had was a bottle of wine.

Literally, just a bottle of wine okay then we decided to play hide and seek that's all that happened girl a bottle of wine is not a defense but i want to warn you, this is very disturbing. I told you she filmed herself as she watched her boyfriend die in a suitcase during an alleged game of hide and seek while she throws back a couple of glasses of wine you know we got the video for everything you've done to me for everything you've done to me so you Sarah Sarah stupid Sarah

that's my name don't worry about it Sarah I can't breathe babe seriously yeah that's when you do when you choke me Sarah Sarah I can't breathe babe that Sarah. Sarah, I can't breathe, babe.

That's on you. Sarah, I can't breathe. It's on you. Sarah. Reel around some. I want to get video for it. Extra. Because I got this.

Sarah. Reel around some. Sarah, I can't. I can't breathe, babe. Oh. That's what I feel like when you drink on me. Sarah! F*** me, Sarah!

Yeah. You should probably shut the f*** up. I had to watch that myself to make sure I knew what really happened. Did she actually film herself? Guys, I want you to hear, first of all, the 911 call. Listen. 911, what is the location of the emergency? 4748 France Court, apartment 3.

Is this a police or medical? My boyfriend is dead. Okay, send a line for the fire department. Do not hang up. Tell me exactly what happened there. My boyfriend and I were playing last night, and I put him in a suitcase when we were playing. Okay. It was kind of a hide-and-seek kind of thing. So I fell asleep, and I woke up, and he was dead in the suitcase.

So I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. You don't know what happened. You just told us what happened. You put your boyfriend in a suitcase. He didn't crawl in there. It was not his idea. You zip it up and now he's dead.

We were playing. Wow. That's just what the Long Island serial killer said about all of his victims. They were playing. Then they were tortured, mutilated, and murdered. Let's analyze what we just heard. Joining me, Stephanie Buffamonte, investigative reporter, Fox 35 Orlando. But first, to defense attorney, Philip Dubay, who has a very interesting numerology defense in this case. Dubay, no stranger to a courtroom with the L.A. County Public Defender's Office. Philip Dubay, did you hear? She was

completely deadpan. My boyfriend is dead. Just like that. How would you battle that in court what try to suppress the 911 call oh no first of all you got to remember she just came off a bender you know she was probably still hung over from the night before because i think they guzzled down an entire bottle of wine but you got to remember too she was probably don't drag him into her wine bottle okay yeah we don't know he was in the bottle. We know she was because I can hear her between sentences going. Okay. So go ahead.

Well, legally, the wine does not help her under Florida law because voluntary intoxication is no more a defense there. I appreciate what you're saying about voluntary use of drugs or alcohol. It's not a defense in Florida. That's everywhere. But I'm asking you about her saying my boyfriend's dead. It's like she might as well be saying, you know, hey, let me order two Chick-fil-A sandwiches and a Diet Coke. That's what it sounds like. And you're going to you would actually tell a jury it's because she's hung over.

You don't think finding his dead body in a suitcase might just wake her up. She's also numb from years of abuse from him. Don't you remember what she said in the clip? She said, now, you know, you can't breathe. Now you know what it's like all those times you were choking me. So it sounds like that she was exercising dominion and control over him so he wouldn't ever harm her again. Oh, you mean revenge? No, I'm talking about being a battery. It's very clear.

She brought that up, but she's angry because she thinks he cheated on her. It's a hybrid of emotions. on her. So what the revenge is over, whether it's alleged choking or alleged cheating, again, just like voluntary use of drugs or alcohol is not a defense. Revenge is not a defense, not a defense. Accident, 100% a defense, a total defense. Self-defense, 100% a defense. Insanity would be an affirmative defense where you say, I did it, but I was crazy. But revenge is not a defense. Hold on. Let's see what else we can learn from the 911 call. Then we're going to revisit her video. Listen. Yes. Like he has like blood coming out of his mouth. And I don't know if like he had like an Then we're going to revisit her video. Listen. No, I pulled him out of the suitcase. I tried giving him CPR. Okay, so he was in a suitcase?

Yes, and I fell asleep. How old is the boyfriend, ma'am? 42-year-old man. Fell asleep while the boyfriend still zipped up begging in a suitcase. Dr. Kendall Crowns is joining me. Renowned chief medical examiner, Tarrant County. That's Fort Worth. Never a lack of business in Dallas, Fort Worth. Lecturer at the esteemed Burnett School of Medicine at TCU.

Dr. Kendall Crowns, why would a person be purple? Why would they be purple? Well, that could be from post postmortem lividity. That's as their heart stops, the blood pools and it gets kind of this purple coloration. It could also be from the fact that he has a lack of oxygen for a prolonged period of time. So instead of his blood having that red coloration, it has a more purplish kind of hue to it. Hold on. First of all, I've got to understand what you're saying. Levidity. That means, and regular people talk, for instance, you lay down on your bed, on your back, and you die. Not going to discuss why you die, but you die. The blood in your body, since your heart is no longer pumping, the blood settles to the lowest point, which would mean all your blood settles in your back, your rear end, maybe the back of your legs.

Blood goes down to the lowest point. Levidity. I understand that, but his whole body is purple. So I would think that a suitcase is not airtight. So it's not a matter of having no air, even if you don't have enough air, you die. Correct. Over time, you're not getting enough oxygen. So you're not getting enough oxygen to your body's tissues, your organs and things of that nature. He's in a restricted environment. He's probably balled up and kind of a fetus position, making it very difficult to breathe. So he is dying a slow death of asphyxiation

or lack of oxygen getting to him. So that would be positional asphyxiation? Yes. Okay, guys, before we go to Stephanie Buffamonte, listen to more of the 911. All right, listen to me. Okay, I just need to confirm this. I just need to confirm this. Is he awake at all? Is he conscious at all? No, he's purple.

Is he breathing? No. All right. I need you to get him on the floor and flatten his back for me, okay? I did. I did. I tried giving him CPR. All right, is he breathing? No. All right. I need you to get him on the floor and fatten his back for me, okay? I did, I did. I tried giving him CPR. All right.

I tried giving him CPR. Yeah, okay, wait, wait, wait. He's purple now, but nothing happened. He's purple. Well, she's calm as a cucumber. Now joining me, investigative reporter, Fox 35 Orlando, Stephanie Buffamanti. Stephanie, thank you for being with us.

Tell me what happened. So what we're seeing is that cell phone video shows what happened that night. So there are two videos, one taken at 820 and then one taken just after 11 o'clock. And in one video, you'll see the suitcase is flipped the other way. And when she was asked about this later by investigators, they were saying, hey, did you move the suitcase? And she said she moved it from one side to the other. And then you hear her in this video saying these really horrendous things. This guy is pleading for his life, saying, Sarah, Sarah, I can't breathe. And

she's laughing. She is laughing and telling him to shut up as he can't breathe and is suffocating in this suitcase. Stephanie Buffamonte joining me, investigative reporter, Fox 35 Orlando. Stephanie, you state that she, Sarah Boone, said horrific things while the boyfriend is dying. Like what? What did she say? So she was saying, shut up. This is what it feels like when you choke me. This is what it feels like when you cheat on me. And she sounds, you know, vengeful. I mean, that's what investigators were saying in that interrogation room with her, saying she was sounding malicious, saying that she was laughing at him. And we can hear her laughing at him as he is pleading for his life. But that part where she talks about this is how I feel when you choke me kind of speaks to their previous relation of domestic abuse,

which we know he had been arrested for previously in their relationship. You know what? That may be true. And I don't like that. But the death penalty meted out by her is not the answer under our jurisprudence. He was in the suitcase for three hours before she went to bed. There is a video at 8.20 and a video just after 11 p.m. During that time, she flips over the suitcase. I wonder why. Joining me, an all-star panel in addition to Dr. Kendall Crowns,

Philip Dubé, defense attorney, and Stephanie Buffamanti to Dr. Bethany Marshall, a renowned psychoanalyst joining us out of LA. She's at drbethanymarshall.com and you can see her right now on Peacock. She's the author of Deal Breaker. Dr. Bethany, weigh in. Well, in terms of domestic abuse, one of the reports read that when the officers responded, they weren't sure who was the aggressor and who was the victim. So let's just take that off the table. Whoa, whoa, wait a minute. Dr. Bethany Marshall, slow down. What did you say?

When I was reading the reports, according to the responding officers who responded to the domestic, I'm not sure who placed the phone call, if she did or he did, but according to the report, they were not sure who was the aggressor and who was the victim. So I think we have to look into that further before deciding that as a defense, even though we know it is not a defense at all. I would be interested in looking at her online searches. This is a person who wanted to kill him. Let's be clear. She thought about this for a long, long time. She thought about the most heinous and cruel way to do it. You do not end up in a suitcase because you're playing hide and seek, right? You can't zip the suitcase up yourself. You are lured into the suitcase. Maybe you're given a couple of

glasses of wine. Maybe you're told this is a part of sex play or something funny that the two of you are doing together, or let's just experiment with, with zipping up the suitcase and then I'm going to unzip it and then we'll have sex, you know, something like that. So she lured him. And it's not clear if he really cheated on her or choked her. You know, I had a patient once where she was a very high level professional. He would wake up in the middle of the night with his wife kicking her, kicking him. She would just viciously kick him. And he came to therapy saying, oh, Dr. Marshall, I must have done so many things wrong. And I said to him, you didn't do anything wrong. She just hates you and she's malicious and she wants to kick you. And so I think sometimes, you know, this cool as a cucumber voice, we have

to remember that some people are just cruel, mean, homicidal, and they come up with reasons after the fact. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Sarah Boone from Upskill, Winter Park, Florida, has been on trial for weeks in relation to the death of her boyfriend, Jorge Torres. During the sentencing, she remains completely emotionless as the judge, Judge Krainick, reads out the jury verdict. The verdict, guilty of murder two. But why? and purple. We are black and white. According to the medical examiner, the victim had been in the suitcase for at least 11 hours. We also learn, according to the autopsy report, that the victim had a black eye and other bruises and cuts on his head. His back and hands were covered in abrasions, bruises, and cuts indicating blunt

impacts across the body. Now this is according to the medical examiner. Did she beat him with a blunt object while he's in the suitcase? Now when police arrived the very next day, this is after he's been in the suitcase, at least 11 hours, Sarah Boone's demeanor. Yes, we have a puzzle that we started in there. Okay. We've been doing art, trying to take the stuff off the wall to make new art put up there. Like, having a good time with one another. But we're drinking. We had a bottle of wine last night. Okay. So then it's like, we decided to play hide and seek, right?

Okay. So he gets in the suitcase, okay? Who is this guy? That's my ex-husband. My former husband. How did he, he lives here with you guys? No. I called him over here.

Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. If you don't trust your own eyes, I'm like over here. Okay. Okay. Okay. If you don't trust your own eyes, I'm like, who should I believe her or my lying eyes straight out to Robin and drink. Why? Because he is a behavior expert and former FBI special agent, chief of the FBI counter intelligence behavioral analysis program, author of unbreakable alliances spy recruiters authoritative guide to cultivating powerful and lasting

connections okay I'm more interested in the book sizing people up a veteran FBI agents manual for behavior prediction okay drink thank you for joining us analyze what you just saw. She has a zero ability to have empathy or impact with any human beings emotionally. And we're seeing it in everything that we've seen so far. And also this whole notion that she's being abused. OK, then how did she get him to get in that suitcase if she didn't have a great high level of manipulation as well? OK, wait, explain that reasoning right there. So how do you get a guy that is supposedly abusing you to get

into a suitcase? I mean, it took her to convince him or manipulate him or inspire him to get inside. Then he allowed her to zip him up. And how? Why? You know, it's also interesting, too. I know we've mentioned it briefly, but the alcohol involved here, 40% of homicides involve alcohol. That is a huge number. And I think it's a huge, plays a huge part in this because it lowers inhibition. As we've already said from the other guests, this is something she pre-planned. It's something that was in her mind to do. When you lower that inhibition with the 40% of, you know, homicide perpetrators use alcohol as that lower inhibition tool in their lives.

This is a result. And again, we're seeing this total need to control in her courtroom appearances in that she got rid of all of her other defense attorneys. And what more control do you have when you actually kill someone by putting them into a suitcase? That is the ultimate form of control of death. You know what? Stephanie Buffamonte joining us, investigative reporter, Fox 35 Orlando. When Robin Drake just said she's been through a few attorneys, she's been through eight attorneys at my last count and several of them, according to my notes, state they're leaving because of irreconcilable differences with her. She also pulled several stunts with staples and gym clips, stapling up her clothes.

She gets angry when her cell is searched. But I find it really interesting and possibly even probative, although the jury will never know this, that she has lost eight lawyers. They're like a parade of defense attorneys. And when a defense attorney who represents killers, child molesters, dope dealers says, I can't take this woman. I'm out of here. That tells me something. Yeah. I mean, to go through that many attorneys and all of those attorneys said that she was extremely difficult to work with.

One of them even saying that they don't think anybody could defend her just because she is difficult. She walked out of meetings when they were trying to talk about her case. And if I can come back up on camera, I want to show you something. This is the flyer that she used to get her latest attorney, which is her ninth attorney, who is going to be representing her in her trial starting on October 7th. And she wrote this in her jail cell and then put it out online. And this is what the attorney said is what brought him to her and why he decided to represent her. He saw this on social media. So, um, yeah, she's on. What does it say, Stephanie? I'll read it to you because it's very interesting. I've never seen something like this before. It says inmate seeks attorney,

show the world who you are with your original creativity, extraordinary expertise, confident qualifications must be trustworthy, honest, passion driven, open minded, epic opportunity awaits. I mean, have you ever seen something like this? No, I have not. Philip DeBay joining us, veteran trial lawyer out of L.A. What about it, DeBay? You ever had a flyer and answered an ad, basically a classified ad for an alleged killer? Not a classified ad, but I have seen inmates do similar things. You know, they feel that their case is going to garner enough attention to put counsel in the limelight and generate future business. In the end, it's sort of a marketing ploy. Take my case. I can't pay you, but you'll have a future income stream

based on all the media throng tied to my case. I have seen those. You know, Dr. Bethany Marshall, you were right, right on point, because if you take a close look at the domestic violence claims, they were fighting with each other. She has a battery by strangulation against him. And every time she called the cops on him, she drops charges and bails him out of jail. So they're fighting with each other and she has a strangulation charge against her on him. That's right. And we know that abusers always, abusers always accuse the victims of abusing them. It's a strange reversal. So that might also be what's happening when he's in the suitcase. You know, when she says you cheated on me, I imagine they were at a bar and he smiled at a woman. I mean, with people like this, it's the most innocuous of events that make them feel deflated and then aggressive and want to

have a binge. I think this help wanted ad for an attorney is very telling. What it tells me is she's very grandiose. She thinks she's going to be the next Casey Anthony. And she thinks she's giving this an attorney an opportunity and she's manipulating him. Sarah Boone, a Florida woman charged with cajoling, manipulating her boyfriend into a suitcase during an alleged game of hide and seek and she leaves him there for 11 hours until he dies taunting him the entire time listen for everything you've done to me for everything you've done to me you you

stupid that's my name don't wear it up Sarah. F*** you. Sarah. Stupid. Sarah. That's my name. Don't worry about it. Sarah. I can't f***ing breathe, babe. Seriously.

Yeah, that's when you do when you choke me. Sarah. Sarah. Sarah. Sarah, I can't breathe, babe. That's on you. Sarah, I can't breathe. It's on you. Sarah, I can't breathe. It's on you. Sarah. Wriggle around some.

I want to get video for it, extra. Because I got this. Sarah. Wriggle around some. Sarah, I can't. I can't breathe, babe. Oh. That's what I feel like when you drink on me.

Sarah. F*** me, Sarah. Yeah. You should probably shut the f*** up. Sarah. Sarah. You know, I'm not sure that I believe what she's saying. Dr. Bethany Marshall joining us, psychoanalyst out of L.A.,

how could he be in the suitcase and zip it up from the inside? He could not zip up the suitcase from the inside. So this whole hide and seek thing, a three year old knows when you play hide and seek, you do it without the other person knowing. So she's really made up the defense after the fact, hasn't she? She lured him there. And I'm very, hasn't she? She lured him there. And I'm very curious about how she might have lured him there. I'm guessing, as I said earlier, that she's thought about this for a long, long time. She planned this. She didn't want to poison him, didn't want to stab him. That's too obvious. So dressing it up as sex play, you know, you get in the suitcase

and then we're going to have a lot of fun afterwards. That's what she did. She made up sort of a fictitious game that they were playing to put him in that suitcase. And you know, Nancy, do you see that suitcase heaving as she's watching? It's like he's trying to expand his body to get some space to breathe. And also we have to acknowledge the sadism involved in this. I mean, who of us are not claustrophobic in some cases? So putting him in a claustrophobic situation is incredible cruelty. It's no, it's not, you know, putting out your cigarette butts on him. It's not strangling him. It's not pulling out his fingernails, but it is incredibly psychologically cruel. I'm just very curious how he ends up in that suitcase and whether he

zipped himself in. I think that's impossible. She had to zip him in. Stephanie Buffamonte joining us from Fox 35. Stephanie, do we know the size of that suitcase? I don't know the exact size, but you can kind of see in the room where it's placed. It looks like your average suitcase, not super big, but she said it was something that they were using. It was downstairs because they were going to bring clothes to Goodwill. And to Bethany's point, investigators say he was actually trying to be put. It looked like he was pushing himself, trying to push himself out of the suitcase now sarah admits to zipping up the suitcase she said she zipped it up but she said that she thought that there were uh he had two fingers out where he was going to be able to unzip it but you can

see in the video the suitcase is flipped the other way so if you think of it like how you're packing for vacation you open it up you know that that's the thin layer on top but it was flipped the other way. So if you think of it like how you're packing for vacation, you open it up, you know, that that's the thin layer on top, but it was flipped the other way around in that later video. Dr. Bethany Marshall, what is it with murder and suitcases that there has to, I mean, I've got so many suitcase examples, real life cases where people were killed and disposed of in left-in suitcases. There's got to be some psychological or psychiatric connection. Well, I think it's the most convenient way to transport something, right? So if you want to hide a body, put the body in the suitcase. But in this particular case, Sarah Boone, I think she wanted to create a claustrophobic situation for him. I think she wanted to put him in something where she could still hear him. He could breathe a tiny

little bit. So she could taunt and torment and torture him over time. And from this standpoint, the suitcase seems quite convenient. I mean, disposing of a child in a field and putting them in a suitcase just seems like you haven't adequately prepared the dump site. In this case, she thought about this. She prepared this. She may have even said, hey, sweetie, let's go take close to the goodwill so that she could put the suitcase downstairs and then put him in it. Dr. Bethany Marshall, dare I disagree with you on a psychological point, but I think there's more to it. All right.

The act of putting someone in a suitcase, you're packing them away. They're like an object. You zip it up and leave them. They're out of your purview. They're out of your mind. Basically dehumanizing them. You said it's an easy way to transport somebody. Well, it's leaking blood and human bodily fluids.

The act of transporting someone in a suitcase, that's got to mean something. I mean, I'm coming to you for expertise, Dr. Bethany. Not say, oh, yeah, well, you can carry the body really, really easily, you know, in a rollerboard. Not what I was expecting, Bethany. Okay. Two things come to mind. The cases we've covered. Dig deep.

Okay, dig deep. That women and their families who have been put in tunnels secreted away behind a door so that the perpetrator can wants absolute control over the victim and being able to transport them wherever you want is also a form of control. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. After losing many, many defense attorneys, her current defense attorney, James Owens, said outside the courthouse Boone was, quote, in shock at the verdict. Really? I'm not shocked at all. And this is why. Listen to what happened.

He and I were putting a puzzle together. We've been doing some artwork together. You were putting a puzzle together? Yes, we have a puzzle that we started in there. Okay. We've been doing art, trying to take the putting a puzzle together? Yes, we have a puzzle that we started in there. Okay. We've been doing art, trying to take the stuff off the wall to make new art put up there. Like having a good time with one another. But we're drinking. We had a bottle of wine last night.

Okay. So then it's like, we decided to play hide and seek, right? Okay. So he gets in the suitcase, okay? Who is this guy? That's my ex-husband. My former husband. How did he, he lives here with you guys?

No. I called him over here. Okay. Okay. Wait a minute. How'd the former husband get there before the police or the EMTs? I guess he has some stories he could tell. Stephanie Buffamonte joining us, Fox 35. She called the husband, her ex-husband to the scene before she called paramedics to try to save the victim yes so she called her ex-husband first he came over and then she said about five minutes after he came over she then called 9-1-1 and what's interesting if you watch the body cam video the husband had said he had been there the ex-husband excuse me had said he had been there with the ex-husband, excuse me, had said he had been calling her all morning because she was supposed to take care of their kid or something like that, and that she was known to be drunk a lot of the times. And then he also talked about their relationship being so rocky and that there had been domestic abuse before.

So he kind of was already telling deputies right away that she has had problems before. We also heard from investigators that they spoke to her neighbors who kind of painted the same picture of her, someone who gets drunk a lot and, you know, here's issues with the two of them in their, in their apartment. Guys, you got to hear this. Take a listen to her speaking to police where she complains she's the one suffering. And then I called him while I was doing CPR. Did you start probably giving me a ballpark? Here let me fill this deputy in okay. Please may I have my Dr. Pepper? I am so cut mouth right now. Ma'am and you can't talk to him until we get

down with this girl okay? Just don't leave okay Brian? Thank you ma'am. Dr you can't talk to him until we get down with this girl, okay? Just don't leave, okay, Brian? Thank you, ma'am. Dr. Bethany, she's suffering because she has dry mouth. I've got severe cotton mouth. May I have my Dr. Pepper? Nancy, she's really sober. She can't claim she's drunk this time, okay?

She's totally sober. Well, actually, when you drink a lot, you do get thirsty. That's one of the signs that I hear. Are you actually saying that to me? Or did you actually say that? First, you say a suitcase is a great way to transport a dead body. Now you're defending her with her cotton mouth? Okay, okay.

Who killed Dr. Bethany and is wearing her skin? I think it's fascinating that she's already thought of the defense before she calls the police, right? She says, this is a happy domestic situation. In so many words, they're putting together a puzzle. They're going to remove art from the wall. It's sort of like there's this cozy domestic situation going on between the two of them. And this except that he's dead, except that he's dead. But she's thought a long time about this. Nancy Robin Drake, help me out. You're the chief of the FBI counterintelligence behavioral analysis program.

She's he's dead. He's purple. And she's whining that she has cotton mouth and she demands her Dr. Pepper. Yeah, it's all about her. Everything's all about her. And we're seeing we're seeing this life arc of her that we're even getting a glimpse of it from her ex-husband is saying a pattern of substance abuse, a pattern of self-centeredness that the child, if there's a child involved here, it sounds like the child lives with him. And then really interesting language that she's using as well. She in one of the statements, she said, I put him in a suitcase, not he got in the suitcase. It was I put in. Then she counters it at a later time saying that he got in.

So which is it? I think, again, it goes back to the self-centeredness control, and I'm on board with you, was she completely objectified him, dehumanized him by putting him in a suitcase like a thing, like an object. Okay, here's one more thing. You know, she's really got to get her sleep. Listen.

I don't know what happened. Okay. And then you weren't sure about if you woke up this morning. It was afternoon. I mean, I wasn't awake. Or late this afternoon but i just didn't want to come downstairs so i just laid in the bed for a little while and then i eventually came downstairs and just confused about where he was and then i was like oh my god he's in the suitcase still so i pulled him out and i stretched him out and i started to try to get CPR on him i called you guys well Well, I called Brian. Okay. And then I, as soon as he got here, which is 30 seconds down the road, I called you guys. Phillip Dubay, veteran defense attorney joining us out of LA.

So she just decided to sleep in that morning. Didn't want to come downstairs. I guess didn't want to see the dead body in the suitcase. Do you really believe she slept through the night with him in a suitcase? And then the next morning decided to just sleep in, have a nice long nap. Yeah, I do. The, the, the blase cavalier attitude about it tells us that she was probably a little hung over that she slept the night through from having down three, four glasses of wine. It probably really loosened her up to the point where she just nodded off, fell asleep, woke up. And then when she realized what she had done,

she picks up the phone and called 911 in a panic. You know, usually in the suitcase homicides, Nancy, what they do is they leave the body in the suitcase and they find the appropriate dumping spot to get rid of it, to try to cover it up. She didn't do that. The first thing she told 911 is she tried to give him mouth to mouth. She tried to give him mouth to mouth. You think you're the only one that's tried a lot of homicides? Listen, killers aren't always rocket scientists. They're not brain surgeons. They're not like Bethany orany or dr kindle crowns you want me to give her a gold star what an a plus because she didn't dispose of the body no her mouth got her into the biggest trouble if you want to be honest about it she ran i would say zipping her boyfriend

into the suitcase and letting him die while she taught him is what got her into trouble and to you dr kindle crowns if they split a bottle wine, which I don't know that they even did that, and they split it right down the middle. So she had two glasses, three glasses, maybe. And that makes her sleep till one o'clock the next day. I'm not buying that. Yeah, I'd be surprised by that, too, because three glasses of wine would put her blood alcohol at about point oh six. So she's not even at the legal limit for intoxication. So I don't think she's wiped out all day from three glasses of wine.

Tell him, what do you tell his parents? Like, what's the reason? Tell them what we know at that point. We tell them the truth. And that we're going to be waiting for the autopsy results. And I will be at the autopsy in the morning. And hopefully the doctor will be able to give me some of what they think and see. We'll give them their number, they can contact them, you know. But yeah, they're going to know what we're here, what we're investigating and that we're still... They're going to think I killed him.

Why would they think that? They always have said that. They've kill him. They always have said that. They've always, always, always said that. I told you it's because I'm the blue eyed white dragon. So his body is purple body is still inside dead. And she's like, what are you going to tell the parents? Now, that's not all. Listen to this.

I don't think you all understand who I am. Well, tell me. I mean, think you all understand who I am. Well, tell me. I mean, I've always been a straight-A student. I am an outstanding mother to my son. I excel at everything. I would not do that. You wouldn't lock somebody in a suitcase?

Well, I didn't, like, completely lock it. I mean, I opened it with one finger. I left enough in there for him to get out. And I wasn't planning on going upstairs and going to sleep. Okay. So going upstairs and going to sleep, that was an accident too. Robin's Reek, what is she saying? She's really digging her own grave with her own teeth. The more she talks, the deeper the grave gets because she says, hey, you don't know who I am. I'm an all A student. That sounds to me like when Deborah LaFave, who was charged with child molestation of young boys, basically argued,'m too pretty to go to jail or ethan couch he mowed down a whole group of people on the side of the road and he says i'm too rich to go to jail this one's saying i shouldn't go to jail because um oh because i'm a straight a student yeah and

she's also using interesting language here as well she didn't say i didn't do that she said i wouldn't do that. So she's distancing herself from the actual event itself. It's a classic thing we've seen in a lot of different murder trials and where a lot of different murderers that they've tried to distance themselves from their victims by using language that is like that. Again, her lack of effect during the entire process is profound and it keeps focusing on her. She's not having any reaction that you expect from someone that just lost someone that's close to them, boyfriend, husband, anyone. She just seems completely unaffected by the entire thing, except the impact on her.

Stephanie Buffamanti, you spoke with lawyer number nine. What did you learn? Yeah, so he was in court yesterday for a pre-trial hearing. That new lawyer is James Owens, and he was the person who saw that flyer and decided he wanted to defend Sarah Boone. And he was talking yesterday about what his defense is going to be. And he said it's going, well, he would like it to be battered spouse syndrome. And we know the trial is on October 7th. And because of all the delays with lawyer after lawyer after lawyer, then Sarah saying that she was going to defend herself and now getting this latest attorney, the attorney had asked for a continuance so he could

get time to get a forensic psychologist and other witnesses because he has to file his motion for defense on the 9th of September because you have to do that 30 days out. So now time is of the essence and you can see it and hear it in that newest attorney's voice. Segment four, state's attorney Andrew Bain says this was a horrific homicide. Today, justice was served with the conviction of Sarah Boone. Believe it or not, the so-called suitcase killer testified, quote, I looked over and saw him settling into the suitcase. I zipped him up. We thought it was funny and were joking about how he was small enough to fit inside the suitcase.

Woman, he's stiff and purple. What's funny about that? Well, Sarah Boone, the so-called suitcase killer, is headed off to jail and she will have plenty of time to think about what she did. Goodbye, friend.