Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Hospital Bosses Won't Believe 'Nice' Nurse Lucy Letby is Prolific 'Baby Killer'

Episode Date: August 22, 2023

Lucy Letby prided herself on caring for infants.  The neonatal nurse cared for the most vulnerable of patients: newborns. Then, the hospital noticed that more infants died in the span of a month than would typically die in a year. An investigation reveals that Letby had been the sole nurse working at the time of seven babies.  The child deaths span over the course of a year with, again, seven babies dying, while six others survived. Letby made babies sick by injecting intravenous lines with air, some were poisoned, and others were force-fed milk.      Letby preyed on twins and triplets.  Joining Nancy Grace Today:  Greg Ahlgren - International Attorney-at-Law at the US-MX Law Group, Ltd. & DRT Alliance/Diaz Reus International Law Firm Caryn L. Stark- Psychologist, Renowned TV and Radio Trauma Expert, and Consultant; Instagram: carynpsych, FB: Caryn Stark Private Practice Robert Crispin – Private Investigator, Former Federal Task Force Officer for United States Department of Justice, DEA and Miami Field Division; Former Homicide and Crimes Against Children Investigator; Facebook: Crispin Special Investigations, Inc. CrispinInvestigations.com, Facebook: Crispin Special Investigations, Inc.   Kat Thornton - BSN, RN, EMT- Neonatal Nursing Expert, Registered Nurse, and Forensic Nurse Expert with Godoy Medical Forensics, Facebook: GodoyMFI, Twitter: @godoyforensics Dr. Kendall Crowns – Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth), Lecturer: University of Texas Austin and Texas Christian University Medical School Alexis Terezchuck - CrimeOnline Investigative Reporter  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. One baby after the next dies. One tiny newborn, then the next, then the next, then the next, all of natural causes. Wow, that's quite the coincidence, is it not? But as I often say, there is no coincidence in criminal law. Interesting, many of the infants that die are twins, triplets. And no, this is not happening at some horrible foster home we read about, not some orphanage far, far away. This is in a renowned hospital. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation and SiriusXM

111. First of all, take a listen to our friend Rita Chabakabardi. They thought their son was in safe hands with Nurse Letby, but a short time later, they were told he was dangerously ill and they rushed back to find doctors trying to save him. We were taken in and we were told to talk to him and hold his hand. And then the conversation with the consultant, she said, you know,'re gonna stop it's not helping

and we want we want to die in your arms and more from rita chakrabarti these are the parents of twin boys born prematurely and their mum was taking milk to them when she heard one of her sons crying loudly they had blood around his mouth and Lucy was there but faffing about not really not doing anything. Lucy said don't worry the registrar was coming and she told me to go back to the ward. The baby's mum left him in this intensive care area and went to call her husband. The crying, I've never heard anything like it since. It was screaming. It was screaming and I was like, what's the matter with them? Legally, we can't identify the families in this case. Their stories are distressing.

Even the babies don't have names. This is the mom and dad of babies E and F from our friends at BBC. I'm just trying to get my head around what I'm hearing. Hearing your child screaming and not understanding what was wrong. You know, Alexis Tereszczuk joining me, investigative reporter with CrimeOnline.com. Alexis, you and I both went through a lot to give birth, right? And you were by my side the whole time. That's right. Don't make me start crying because now you have this beautiful boy that's amazing.

I'm thinking back to these when we were in neonatal intensive care. Well, the children were, and I was in intensive care. But I was just thinking about when I would sit with them all day long and until I was told I had to leave leaving them there and hearing them cry it was just there's some something about it never bothered me this way before I had twin had the children but now even now 15 years later when I hear a baby scream it just oh it just turns me inside out did that happen to you and I hear a baby scream the impulse to run to the baby I never had that before I mean I felt bad for the child I I was wondering what was wrong. But once you have a

child, is it something instinctive? Is it physical? What is that? And even it is, it's a difference when you hear a cry of, I'm hungry, I have a wet diaper. But when a child is in pain, you feel it so much more. I have since having my son and I know with you and how much you spent all of your time with them because they were so tiny and so little when they were born. You're right, Alexis Torres-Chuck. Karen Stark joining us, a renowned psychologist in Manhattan, TV, radio, trauma expert, consultant. And you can find her at KarenStark.com. That's Karen with a C if you're trying to find her. Karen, is it physical? Because I never had that reaction before. I mean, there

were times in the district attorney's office when a child was a victim, I would cry secretly, not in front of the jury, about what happened to the child. But when you hear a baby screaming now, and for me, it didn't matter if it was a wet diapy or they were hungry, when I heard that scream, it literally would send chills all over me and I would have to just run to find out what was wrong and try to fix it. It's a hormone that exists between mothers and babies.

And there are stories, and perhaps you can relate to this, where a mother gets up in the middle of the night, and as soon as she opens her eyes, the baby starts to cry. And it's as though the baby had communicated that. And that's the hormone that you have when you attach to a child. I cannot imagine why I still have it 15 years on. But that said, I'm just thinking about these parents that are told there's something wrong with the baby and the baby is screaming and they leave the baby. They're told to leave the baby with the nurse and the baby

dies. Not just one, not just two, but then another and another and another take a listen to our friends at channel 4 their twin boys known as babies L and M were just a day old they both survived but it took almost 30 minutes to restart baby M's heart experts say the crash was likely caused by air being injected into his bloodstream. His brother was poisoned with insulin, though their parents weren't told that for two years. We didn't know anything even afterwards until the police came knocking. Air being injected into the bloodstream.

Now, I can understand one mistake, but when one twin has air being injected into their bloodstream and the other twin is poisoned with insulin, that is no mistake. For two babies, twins, to be injected with potentially lethal substances. Joining me right now, two renowned experts, Kat Thornton and our friend, Dr. Kendall Crowns. Dr. Kendall Crowns, Chief Medical Examiner, Tarrant County, that's Fort Worth, Lecturer, University of Texas

and Texas Christian University Medical School. Kat Thornton, she's got so many initials by her name. BSN, RN, I know what that one means. EMT, I know what that one means. Neonatal nursing expert, registered nurse, forensic nurse expert with Godoy Medical Forensics. Kat, thank you so much for being with us Kat I'm just remembering all the weeks actually months that John David and Lucy Lucy the longest were in neonatal intensive care unit and that was 15 years ago and do you know Kat I am still in touch with the nurses some of them that took care of the twins. I remember one day I was in ICU at the other end of the hospital. They were in NICU and I'm pretty sure I put on a pair of tights

before I took off. I still had on the gown that's open in the back. Yes, I did definitely put on tights before I made my way all through the circuitous route of the hospital to get to NICU. And I was attached to one of the, what do you say, a drip bag on a roller, like a clothes hanger. Is that really tall? Yeah, an IV pump. That, that, yes. Listen, they didn't teach any of that in law school. All the way over there. And

ultimately found out that I had set off the alarms by going through the wrong door leaving ICU. Okay, so I had ultimately had a trail of hospital police trying to find out how the alarm went off. But those neonatal nurses were amazing, incredible. And I really believe, no offense, Dr. Kendall Crowns, that I owe the twins lives to the neonatal nurses at Northside Hospital in Atlanta. I had been going to Sinai in New York, but came home to visit my parents on a weekend and wouldn't you know, emergency C-section. And they, I trusted them when I couldn't be there.

It's a huge burden for a neonatal nurse. It is a burden and a huge responsibility and also a privilege to be able to care for these children at their most vulnerable states and these families in their most vulnerable states. Many, many of them have gone through all kinds of toil and trouble just trying to get pregnant and then to deliver early or to have complications during delivery. It's just heart-wrenching for these families to not be able to go through a natural birth process and take your child home with you. But just as you said, Nancy, to leave them in the care of others who

you really don't know, but you have to trust them. And the NICU nurses are a very special, special breed, the physicians, the nurses, all those that care for those babies. So you had obviously a very good experience with the those that care for those babies. So you had obviously a very good experience with the staff that cared for your twins. I really did. And you know, Dr. Kendall Crowns, I do remember that these parents were told by a consultant that they should leave. But I felt that I would be, Lucy was in a lot worse shape than John David was, although they were both in really bad shape. Lucy only weighed two pounds, Dr. Kendall Crowns. And I remember they thought she was going to be blind. And there was a procedure where they actually had to put a needle into her eye.

And the doctor and my husband said, do you want to leave? Because they obviously thought I couldn't take it. I didn't think I could take it either, but I didn't think I could leave Lucy there to face that without her mother, even though she really didn't know me yet. It's so emotional, doctor. Have you had that experience during your rotation or when you deal with child victims? It's just gut-wrenching for the parents, I think, more than anything. Well, I always think it's unfortunate when a child dies. And I think as a parent myself, it's hard to see when a life that has potential and so much hope associated with it was kind of tragically snuffed out at an early age. To me, kid cases are the worst cases, especially in child abuse where, you know,

someone else could have raised that child, loved that child, adopted them and taken care of them. And in situations where any child is murdered. It's just horrible. The toll it takes on parents and they second guess every single thing, every move they made. Would it have changed the outcome? Would my baby, my twins, my triplets be alive today? Take a listen to our friends at BBC. On the unit, there were typically up to three deaths a year,

but they had that number in the month of June alone, and the pattern continued with babies dying or coming close to death. No one suspected any foul play after several unexpected and near deaths in just over half a year. A second review was ordered with inspectors issuing concerns about staffing levels. That summer, hospital bosses described reaching a tipping point after the deaths of siblings baby O and P. O and P, hold on. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q.

17 babies? Because the babies are, their names aren't public so they've been assigned letters and we've got a baby q crime stories with nancy grace you know kat thornton joining me Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. You know, Kat Thornton joining me, highly respected neonatal nursing expert. I guess in the NICU neonatal intensive care unit, the children are already at such a high risk. Like I said, Lucy, my little Lucy was two pounds. And we knew it was a long shot. But Northside and the NICU nurses and doctors saved her and John David's lives.

So when you have deaths, I guess that's expected. Not happy, but expected. And the NICU, would you agree with that, Kat? Well, we never like to say it's expected, but some of these children are in such severe physiological, oh gosh, that's not right. Some of these premature babies are so sick. Their little organs are not developed enough to be functioning outside the womb yet. And we are basically assisting them by artificial means.

So we do see death in the NICU. We see a lot of children who have issues with their lungs, with their heart, with their vision, kind of what you said. So any instance where something happens that is unexpected, we're going to watch and try and see what happened, what we can do to fix that situation, what medications we can assist them with, and try to help them just to continue to grow as if they were inside the mother's womb. I've never heard it put like that. That's fascinating to me. So, I guess to you, Dr. Kendall Crowns, in a hospital setting, you expect, you don't want it, but you know a likely outcome with very ill children, very premature children, they could die. And I doubt pretty seriously that anyone suspects foul play under those conditions. How would you find out, say a baby dies, an infant, a newborn, a twin, how would you find out that someone had injected an

air, and I wanted to say an air bubble, but how do you find out, how do you figure out that air has been injected into a baby and killed it and how does it kill the baby so injection of air in a hospital setting you have to have a idea that someone may be up to something to catch it sometimes the physicians or the nurses are suspicious when a child or even adult dies unexpectedly and there's no reason. The problem is you can get away with it for a period of time because hospital deaths aren't necessarily brought to a medical examiner's office and they're not necessarily autopsied. So usually it's a pattern where they see this a number of times and then they start getting suspicious and then autopsies are done. So at autopsy, how you spot an air embolus is if there's a suspicion of it, when you do the x-ray, you can spot air.

An air embolus. What is an embolus, first of all? An embolus is a large clot, basically. So an embolus of air is a clot of air in the cardiovascular system. On x-ray, you can spot it. It's kind of like a black area in the heart, usually in the right ventricles where we'll see it. So at autopsy, when you're doing the autopsy, you actually open the pericardial sac, which is the sac around the heart. You fill it with water, and then you poke the right ventricle, and bubbles will come out,

air bubbles. And when you see those, you know you're dealing with an air embolus. Again, it's easily missed at autopsy unless you have a suspicion for it. so you have to have the x-rays and with the x-rays then you do the proper autopsy techniques catch it so air embolism is one of those hard ones to spot at autopsy trying to take in everything you're saying and i know it's by rote for you because you've done so many autopsies thousands but for me to think of a newborn baby lying on one of those cold autopsy tables, being sliced open, and you're filling up the pericardium sac, which goes around the heart, and trying to figure out, was air injected into this baby it's it's very upsetting for us regular people dr.

Kendall crowns but I thank God for you and other doctors across the country like you because from what I can tell this may be the single most prolific child killer in the world. One baby after the next after the next after the next dies. What is the common denominator? One thing. Lucy Letby. Take a listen to Dr. John Gibbs who worked with Lucy Lettby on ITV. There was nothing about her behavior or her attitude that worried me at all. The problem

with Lucy Lettby was that she was consistently associated with an increasing number of unusual collapses and deaths happening on the unit. That's where the worry was. And more from Dr Stephen Brary. Lucy Letby was there. She was sitting next to me. I spoke to her and said how tired and upset she must be after two days of this and hoped that she she was gonna have a restful weekend and she turned to me and said no I'm back on shift tomorrow the other staff were very traumatized by all of this we were crumbling before your eyes almost and she was quite happy and confident to come into work okay Greg Algren is joining me international lawyer with Diaz Ruiz. They practice all over the United States and beyond.

Greg Algren, yes, she was there when all of these babies were found dead. When they were dying. When they were screaming with blood on their mouth, as you heard the one father describe. But that is entirely, and yes, I've proven a case on circumstantial evidence alone, but you've got to have more. You've got to have more than just, well, she was there whenever the babies would die.

She never seemed tired. She couldn't wait to get back to the ward and work around more babies. That's not enough to prove a case greg but i think there's a i think there's a certain pattern in practice that starts to emerge and it raises the question of lack of supervision uh apart from the the criminal liability i mean there's the there's the civil issue. There's the lack of supervision. And I mean, perhaps even the concept of corporate manslaughter, you know, the failure to adequately participate in the controls that are necessary to ensure that things are being done the right way. You know, all that is absolutely correct. I don't think that's any consolation to these parents, one after the next after the next, who suffered the loss of their child. But Greg Algren, of course, is completely correct. file private investigator, former federal task force officer for the U.S. Department of Justice with the DEA in the Miami Field Division, former homicide and crimes on children investigator.

And you can find him at crispininvestigations.com. Robert, thank you for being with us. If you were handed this, let me just say Rubik's Cube, one baby after the next is dying on this ward. Lucy Letby is there every time one of these babies dies. And you hear about the baby screaming. They didn't just fall off to sleep with too much Benadryl, which is bad enough in itself. They were screaming. What would you do? You got to have more than that. Now, I find air injected into a baby to be damning, but I know I need more. What would you do to prove this case, Robert? dealing with because the access to the kids and because we spoke about unfortunately death very final you're expected that it's okay if someone dies in the hospital that's where they're supposed to die oh you just gave me a thought it reminds me of arson cases which it took me years to develop an expertise in proving arson because first you have to prove a crime even happened. And then once you prove a crime happened, you got to figure out who did it and really why.

Like this, you expect babies in a high-risk neonatal unit, some of them, God help them, are going to die. So a lot of people don't think it's anything unusual when a baby dies in a neonatal unit. That's why she got away with it for so long. For so long, she got away with it. By the time it got to law enforcement is when this thing accelerated. Until the administrators got together and they started to compare the facts and compare the charts and compare the employees and the behavior. And then it went to law enforcement after it was first denied to go to law enforcement.

And the employees were told, if you do anything about it, there will be repercussions. Oh, you're making my stomach hurt right now. Is this true? Alexis Tereschuk with us, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter, that all these deaths were flagged

and employees were begging for help and they were told, don't you dare say a word. Did that happen? It did. It was not only, it was the nurses and the doctors who worked with her. They all, first time, it was a tragedy. But immediately the way that she reacted was a red flag.

She was, how did she react? Well, she wanted to come back to work immediately. She, she said, well, you know, I just have to be there immediately. I don't need any time to grieve. It's the best thing to do. Well, everybody else was devastated and crushed by this. But each time a child died, each time a baby died and she was there, she wanted to come back to work and insisted on. And as you said, remember, many of them were twins or triplets.

She wanted to work with the other sibling immediately and people and that really raised the red flag so the doctors and the nurses really started a file and tried and complained about her and said this is really very very suspicious okay somebody's gonna have their pants suit off add insult to injury they had to write her an apology. Whoa. Okay. What? Who's this? Is this Crispin or Algren?

That's Crispin. What did you just say? It had gotten to administration. Administration shut down the people that were bringing this forward. And we're not going to do anything further. And there'll be consequences. And then Lucy filed a complaint. And the doctors had to do a written apology to Lucy.

I'm sorry. We're all stressed out. We're all under a lot of pressure. That's how this all started. And then another death. That's when administrators caught on. That's when they decided to call law enforcement. And then that's when this case got some traction and it took off and it's where it is today. And Nancy, I think, and this is Kat, I think another most interesting fact about her behavior was she reached out to these parents, multiple different parents of the deceased children and searched for them on social media and watched their response to their grief and was almost relishing their grief. And she sent them notes. She said she was apologetic that she couldn't make it to the funeral.

It's really very distressing to look at someone with such narcissistic behavior and attention-seeking behavior. It's just horrifying. Oh, man. Oh, man. She is going straight to hell. Did you know that also after the deaths of these tiny babies, she would help the parents prepare the baby for the funeral? Yes, it did mention in the evidence that she helped to prepare memento boxes and gather footprints and handprints and locks of hair,

which is a very common practice in the NICU after a child passes away because maybe a photograph prior to the death and these mementos are the only thing that these parents have to remember the short life that they had with their child. Who was jumping in? Was that you, Karen Stark? Yes, it was. I wanted to say that in addition to her own cases, they would also find her involved in cases that were not hers, where she was told not to be there. And she would get involved with these supposedly babies that were so sick and dying, which, of course, she was causing. So it wasn't just her patients. She would seek out other babies.

And she relished taking care of the babies once they died. She bathed them and found clothes for them. She became very, very involved in the aftercare as well. Okay, I'm sure you've got a diagnostic name for that. Jackie is waving a note to me that one of the babies was actually buried in a gown provided by Lucy Letby. Guys, take a listen to our friends at BBC. Lucy Letby was eventually moved to a clerical role. The doctors kept trying to get managers to investigate the suspicious deaths

and her connection to them. Even though consultants here repeatedly made loud warnings to senior management, they say they were ignored. Even after Lucy Letby came off duty on the neonatal unit executives tried to draw a line under the case dr stephen breery led the team of seven consultants on the unit who shared joint concerns it's something that nobody really wants to consider you know that a member of staff might be harming the babies and your care.

Things came to a head when two out of three healthy triplets died within 24 hours of each other. Oh, cool. Two out of three triplets. Karen Stark, you're the shrink. We're just mere mortals. What is, there's got to be a name for the hatred of babies, the desire to kill infants? Well, usually when that happens, it's suicide. It's a parent who's killing the baby, unfortunately. In this case, you're talking about a cold, and I mean cold-blooded killer, the definition of a psychopath. She was sadistic. She enjoyed, and I know this is hard for people to take in, but she actually enjoyed watching not just the baby suffer, but the parents suffer.

Now, there's pedophobia, which is a fear of babies, but the hatred of babies, the desire to kill babies, not anybody else, just helpless infants. But that's part of it, Nancy, is that they're helpless and they're innocent. And that's extremely appealing to killers, as we know. And all the natural instincts that you would assume somebody would have when it comes to babies. A killer, a cold-blooded killer like this, just the opposite. This is, she's in her environment. She relishes the fact that this is happening. Guys, take a listen to our friends over at AP. Lucille B. was entrusted to protect some

of the most vulnerable babies. Little did those working alongside her know that there was a murderer in their midst. She did her utmost to conceal her crimes by varying the ways in which she repeatedly harmed babies in her care. In her hands, innocuous substances like air, milk or medication like insulin would become lethal. She perverted her learning and weaponized her craft to inflict harm, grief and death. crime stories with nancy grace just thinking about this in her hands innocuous substances like air milk or medication would become lethal then there's baby e the mom arrived to give the baby breast milk and she found the baby with blood around his mouth before he died from a fatal bleed which we now believe to be caused by let B interfering with a nasogastric tube.

The mom actually walked in on her with the baby. Guys, take a listen to this. It was in June when Lucy Letby murdered the first newborn who we can only call Baby A by injecting air into his bloodstream. The following month after the deaths of Baby C and baby D, the head of the neonatal ward ordered an internal review and found that Letby had been the only nurse on shift for each death. By October, baby E and baby I had also died and consultants warned senior management that Letby was present each time. That was Sean Fletcher at Good Morning Britain. Baby E, baby I also died and senior management was warned. Lucy Letby was present each time. Greg Algren, why in the world would a

hospital try to suppress the knowledge that babies were dying on Lucy Letby's watch, not by accident, not by normal or natural causes, but by injections of air or insulin or interference with a nasogastral tube? Why would they suppress that and actually warn the doctors and nurses of repercussions if they continued to investigate and force the doctors as Robert Crispin pointed out to apologize to Lucy Lettby the killer right it's disgusting it's inconceivable and I think we can only conclude that this institution was was trying to protect itself uh there's no excuse for it and there have to be other investigations and hopefully prosecutions that come out of this because the the the organizational behavior that was exhibited here is is completely

unexcusable inexcusable i mean it can't it can't be allowed to repeat itself in the future take a listen now to janet moore to lose a baby is a heartbreaking experience that no parent should ever have to go through. But to lose a baby or to have a baby harmed in these particular circumstances is unimaginable. Over the past seven to eight years, we've had to go through a long, torturous and emotional journey. From losing our precious newborns and grieving their loss, seeing our children who survived, some of whom are still suffering today, to being told years later that their death or collapse might be suspicious.

Nothing can prepare you for that news. I'm just trying to get my head around it to you, Alexis Tereszczuk, joining us from Crime Online. The murders of all these babies occurred over the space of one year. Why did it take eight years to bring her to justice? Concern raised by doctors and nurses. And the hospital started an investigation into it. And because she was so forthcoming, she was a nurse,

they just never suspected that this would happen. Then nothing was found. However, when they decided that they did, they did a survey. They did. And they saw that she was the only nurse on duty in the room with these children for every single death and every single attempted. You know, where there were children that were assaulted by her that did not die, but that were treated in the same way. And then they realized that something happened. And she then filed a complaint against the hospital and said, you are targeting me. I am not doing anything wrong. And because it appears that they were afraid that she would sue them more than just file a complaint,

they backed down on this. And it took years for them to finally contact the police. And many of the doctors there have said that the hospital dragged their feet on this and that they should have contacted the police immediately. I guess they didn't want

the bad public relations that so many babies were dying, number one, and potentially at the hands of a nurse. Listen to Justice James Goss. This was a cruel, calculated, and cynical campaign of child murder involving the smallest and most vulnerable of children, knowing that your actions were causing significant physical suffering and would cause untold mental suffering. You created situations so that collapses or causes of collapses would not be obvious or associated with you. You removed and retained confidential records of events

relating to your crimes and checked up on bereaved parents. There was a deep malevolence bordering on sadism in your actions. Karen Stark, I can't figure out if she delighted more in actually killing the babies or watching them die, the act of killing them, standing by watching them die, or watching the parents grieve and actually enjoying the funeral preparations. It's, I can't figure out what her motivation is. There doesn't need to be. That's, everyone's trying to understand her motivation.

And when we're talking about a psychopath, this is a person who has no feelings and the only motivation is for her to be able to see their distress. That really turns her on. It's hard to conceive of, but it's true. I mean, she had no, look how manipulative she was, which really goes along with being a psychopath. And she turned the tables and she said, you're harassing me so that she could take the attention away from she's doing something wrong and put the attention on the fact that she's a victim. Kat Thornton, joining us, neonatal nursing expert. What precautions are in place in hospitals to make sure nurses are not killing infants, infants that, of course, have no voice for themselves?

Well, Nancy, I think this is an excellent example of a situation where the surrounding support staff did not feel comfortable, and they were also chastised about bringing forth concerns and I will say that I think most institutions do an excellent job of providing ongoing annual training. The compliance departments and regulatory departments develop really good education and affirmation to each employee at annual training that is their responsibility. So continue training. Alexis Tereschuk joining us. So many of these parents probably thought that the potential deaths of their children were to be expected. And when a child passed away in the neonatal unit, they thought, well, she or he just didn't make it. What happened at sentencing? Is it true Lucy

Letby would not even come to sentencing where the parents were all there? That's 100% true. She did not show up for her sentencing. She was not there when these parents gave their victim impact statements where they talked about how they completely trusted her and that they knew something was wrong because their child was screaming in the unit and they went in and the parents and it was there and she was the only one there. She was too much of a coward. She did not show up. And her parents, you know, she's an only child who was doted on her whole life. She was everything to her parents. When she graduated from college, they sent a picture of it to the local newspaper. They adored her.

They gave her everything. They were so proud of her. They had been there every single day of the trial, but they also did not show up for the sentencing. So nobody was there to hear what these parents had to say after she had murdered their baby. So chilling that after one baby died, photos have emerged of Lucy Letby with this huge smile on her face at a fundraiser. The baby had just died and she went to a fundraiser for neonatal patients and had this huge smile. She really had a great time at the party after just killing one of the babies. Seven babies dead at her hands, that we know of, attempts on the lives of six other tiny infants. She is going to jail for the rest of her

life, but all I can say is rot in hell. Goodbye, friend. This is an iHeart Podcast.