Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Hubby Poisons Wife with Heroin, Breast Milk Proves Murder

Episode Date: April 20, 2024

Christina Harris is found dead by a neighbor. Harris’ cause of death was initially ruled accidental by the medical examiner's office after a blood sample tested positive for opiates, but h...er family is adamant Christina did not use drugs. The family even insisted officers test her frozen breast milk to prove it. Harris was still breastfeeding an infant. Police ultimately arrest husband Jason Harris for poisoning his wife's cereal. Harris has now lost his appeal bid. Joining Nancy Grace today: Matthew Mangino – Attorney, Former District Attorney (Lawrence County); Author: “The Executioner’s Toll: The Crimes, Arrests, Trials, Appeals, Last Meals, Final Words and Executions of 46 Persons in the United States” Dr. Shari Schwartz – Forensic Psychologist (Specializing in Capital Mitigation and Victim Advocacy); Author: “Criminal Behavior” and “Where Law and Psychology Intersect: Issues in Legal Psychology;” Twitter: @TrialDoc” Justin Boardman – Retired Detective, West Valley City Police Department Special Victim’s Unit, Boardman Training & Consulting Dr. Michelle DuPre – Former Forensic Pathologist, Medical Examiner and Detective: Lexington County Sheriff’s Department, Author: “Homicide Investigation Field Guide” & “Investigating Child Abuse Field Guide;” Forensic Consultant Karen Drew – TV News Anchor/Investigative Reporter, WDIV TV, NBC Detroit; Instagram/Twitter: @KarenDrewTV   Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnet See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. In the last hours, it's the end of the road for a man accused of murdering his wife with poisoned cereal. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thanks for being with us here at Crime Stories and on Sirius XM 111. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thanks for being with us here at Crime Stories and on Sirius XM 111.
Starting point is 00:00:37 That's right. The murder conviction of a Davidson man who murders his wife with poisoned cereal has been upheld. You're going to jail and you're staying there. Let me correct myself. You're going to the penitentiary and you're staying there. According to prosecutors, Jason Harris gives his wife, 36-year-old Christina Ann, a lethal dose of heroin. Now, of course, it was first believed that she
Starting point is 00:01:07 OD'd herself and her friends and sisters say she never used drugs a day in her life. So how exactly did Christina die leaving behind a child still breastfeeding? I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM 111. Take a listen to our friends at CrimeOnline.com. Just after 10 a.m. on September 29th, Jason Harris called asking his neighbor to check on his wife. It was the second time he had made that request. The first was just 11 days before. In that instance, Jason Harris asked
Starting point is 00:01:46 his neighbor to see if his wife's vehicle was still in the driveway. He was afraid his wife, Christina, had overslept. The neighbor went to a side door but got no answer to her knock. She was able to open the door and call out to Christina, who then answered her. The second time, September 29th, the neighbor again went to the door, which was unlocked. Christina Harris was in bed with the covers pulled over her face. The neighbor touched Christina, but there was no response. Thinking Harris was still asleep, she left and called Jason Harris to let him know. Concerned, the neighbor went back and Christina was cold to the touch, stiff, and had foam coming out of her mouth.
Starting point is 00:02:28 The neighbor also said Christina had no pulse and wasn't breathing. She called 911 and another neighbor who is a registered nurse to help. Christina Harris was dead. This young mom with a little baby still breastfeeding, dead in her own bed, frothing at the mouth. What happened? With me, an all-star panel to make sense of what we know now. First of all, Matthew Mangino, former elected district attorney, now private lawyer and author of The Executioner's Toll. Dr. Sherry Schwartz, forensic psychologist,
Starting point is 00:02:59 joining us specializing in crimes of this nature. Her book, Criminal Behavior and Where Law and Psychology Intersect. Justin Boardman, former Special Victims Unit Detective, West Valley, and author of I Was Wrong, An Investigator's Battle Cry for Change Within the SVU. Dr. Michelle Dupree, medical examiner, forensic pathologist, detective, and author of homicide investigation field guide but first to karen drew special guests joining us tv news anchor investigative reporter with wdiv tv nbc karen thank you so much for being with us karen first of all take a listen to our cut
Starting point is 00:03:39 one who is christina harris thompson and jason har Harris were married for 11 years, but they had been a couple for five years before that. Six years into the marriage, they welcomed a daughter. Five years later, daughter number two was born. Christina Harris's family says she loved swimming, crafting, and family game night and being a stay-at-home mom. She was still breastfeeding and stocking a freezer full of milk for her infant. The little girl was just eight months old when Harris was found dead in their home. I can't even imagine to you, Karen Drew, I remember when I gave birth to the twins, Lucy and I almost died.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And it was horrible. We were all in intensive care. The children were in intensive care a really long time. And I remember lying there in the bed thinking, am I going to die? Am I going to watch my children from the other side of life grow up without a mother? And that thought consumed me. And here is this woman, Christina Harris, with this eight month old baby girl gone. No mother to raise a child.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Tell me what happened. What was her toxicology report? Heroin? That is what investigators found, Nancy, that there was heroin in her system. And I can tell you, I talk with family. I talk with one of her best friends and they were flabbergasted. They knew her. They knew her. They knew her well.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I mean, ever since she was a young person, when she met Jason as a teenager, her husband, she had always dreamed about being a mom. She always wanted to be this terrific mom. Breastfeeding was so important. Healthy food, spending time with the children. And you know, Nancy, the whole bond that you have with breastfeeding a child that was very, very important to her. She took being a mom very serious. She worked part time at a local subway shop to pick up a few hours just to help ends meet. You know, but her priority was being a mom, being there for her kids and taking care of them the best way she could.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And so when family found out that there was heroin in their system, in her system, they just simply said, no way, not possible. You know, to Dr. Sherry Schwartz, family and friends, they always think they know you so well. But if you are addicted to drugs or alcohol, that can make even a new mom do things she wouldn't normally do. Things that she would keep secret from family and friends like drugs and alcohol addiction. Well, that's absolutely right. But when we were talking about a drug like heroin, that's kind of a hard one to keep a secret. Right. Because there's also physical signs, not just the impairment, but you would see possibly track marks, right? Clouded thinking, flu-like symptoms.
Starting point is 00:06:36 So that would be hard to mask from people who see you frequently. You're right. Heroin is pretty hard to hide. To you, Karen Drew, joining us, WDIV-TV. Karen, what can you tell us about the day that Christina was found dead? Well, it was a little different kind of a day. Her husband, they lived in a middle to lower class community. He had gone to work, went to work a little bit earlier than normal, and she would be at home with the kids. He left, and from what we understand, he was trying to call her later in the morning, you know, around that 8, 9 o'clock time, and hadn't heard from her.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And that seemed a little strange because she would be up by that time with the kids and called a couple times, didn't hear from her. He became worried, so he called the neighbor that lived right in back of the house. And I had talked to her too. And she said she was, it was a little surprising to hear from Jason, her husband, but then he had called her one time before, just kind of making sure that his wife was okay. So he just said, Hey, can you just check on Christy and knock on the door? I've been trying to call her. So then the neighbor went over to the house and as you had said earlier, then found her pretty much lifeless with foam from the mouth, in the bed,
Starting point is 00:07:53 a very scary situation for her. So then she, they called another neighbor who was a registered nurse. She came in at that point. She knew Christy was dead. She was lifeless. To Dr. Michelle Dupree, former forensic pathologist, medical examiner and author. Dr. Dupree, what does that mean when you have foam coming out of your lips in death?
Starting point is 00:08:14 Well, Nancy, this is typically pulmonary edema, which means that your lungs are filling up with lung with water and fluids. And we often see this in especially two types of death. One is drowning and one is a drug overdose. Now, how does that work? How do you get liquid in your lungs? I understand from drowning because you breathe in the water and then you aspirate it up. But why would you aspirate? Why would you breathe out liquid foam after a drug overdose? Because in this case, especially with something like heroin, which is a depressant, a central nervous system depressant, your lungs don't function as they should. And so even your saliva and the fluids that you would just normally cough up are going to be retained in your lungs and cause that. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Right there.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Right there. Saliva. Of course, you're the MD. I'm just a JD. But why would there be saliva in your lungs? Isn't that in your stomach? I don't get how. Because you take drugs and you have a drug OD, you get fluid in your lungs. It's in your mouth. Saliva is in your mouth. And you don't really swallow it down your esophagus as you should. Instead, it goes down your trachea and into your lungs. In addition, the surrounding tissue, the fluids just begin to ease out because your body is not functioning as
Starting point is 00:09:30 it should. It's depressed and it isn't working as properly as it would. Okay. See, Dr. Dupree, you're the reason that the medical examiner and all of the examiner staff would hide when they would see my beat up Toyota coming to the parking lot. See, everything you just said, that makes no sense to me at all. Now, you said something about I would have to go through every medical examiner report and their pages and pages, line by line. What does that mean? OK, what does that mean okay what does that mean so i heard you say jackie did you hear say this that fluid eases out what fluid eases out then you die i don't understand that yes what into what our vessels our blood vessels are under pressure our lymph vessels are under pressure. Our lymph vessels are under pressure because our heart is pumping normally and is pumping strongly.
Starting point is 00:10:28 When that heart begins to pump weakly, not as it should, then the pressure that is holding our vessels and all the fluids inside of our vessels together begins to ease and that's why we have a plural pulmonary edema or plural effusion things like that when someone is cns depressed okay the only way i can it could make sense of what you're saying is okay don't laugh dr dupree which i know you're laughing right into your fist is comparing it to gravity. As long as the earth keeps spinning, you've got that gravity. The moment it stops, like the heart stops, suddenly, poof, we all just float away. So as soon as the heart stops pumping, that pressure going through the veins and all of the organs stops. And it, as you said, eases out. And as she's barely still breathing, that fluid that has now accumulated in her lungs comes out as froth out of her mouth. Now, let me ask, do you actually asphyxiate on that froth?
Starting point is 00:11:36 I mean, why would you die? Or do you die because your heart stops because the heroin slows it down? You really die because it is a central nervous system depressant and all of your organ functions, your brain, your heart. Did you just say in your own special way that your heart stops because it's depressed? Yes, it slows down and then it eventually stops as does your brain. Okay, I think it should be repressed because depressed seems like the heart is sad. Well, I'm sure that it is. But what I'm saying is it stops, it slows the heart down so much the heart stops and that's why you die with an overdose.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yes, your heart and brain stop. Yes. Okay, just as an aside, what about if you're on meth which speeds you up? How do you OD on meth? Well, on meth because it is a stimulant as you said it speeds everything up. You can actually speed your heart up so fast that you have an arrhythmia and that can cause death. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Jason Harris loses his desperate fight to get out of jail free.
Starting point is 00:12:49 It ain't happening, Harris. How did this whole thing unfold? Karen Drew joining us, who's been on this from the very, very beginning, when she heard that Christina's family, sisters, she's never done drugs ever. This isn't true. This can't be right. But they check and they recheck the toxicology. And, oh, yes, she did OD on heroin. Karen Drew joining us, WDIV.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Did they search the home for drug paraphernalia or her heroin stash? From what we understand, Nancy, you know, obviously the home was searched, but I have to tell you that the detective that was there at the time, when they, obviously everyone responds to the body, then Jason came home from work, obviously distraught. They rushed the body to a hospital, and then after the body was removed, from what we understand, the detective left because they thought it was an overdose case. So there wasn't, I mean, from what we understand, there was family, talking to detectives and talking to the prosecutor, there was nothing found in the house that really supported a drug habit, drug paraphernalia. You know, so that was a little bit of a mystery there. Or did they really even look Karen Drew? You know what, Nancy?
Starting point is 00:14:20 That's the question. Did they? Because I have to give you the scene for Davison. Davison, Michigan, is a small town. And I mean small. Murder, crime, robbery. That doesn't happen in Davison. It's just a small town, a small police force. So that's not really on your radar when something happens. There's not a lot of detectives that are searching for clues.
Starting point is 00:14:50 There's just not a lot of experience. so that that's been brought up too was there something did they miss something did they do a search was it complete um because it just was a place that you know there isn't a whole lot of crime not a lot of whole a lot of police experience and that that has been really examined a lot in this case. Go ahead, jump in. So, you know, another really good method in this case, a forensic method, we can analyze the hair to determine if it has been long-term heroin use. You know, that can tell a real story. I did not know that, that you could actually tell in the hair, which grows, of course, from the root. A lot of people think your hair grows from the tip. It doesn't.
Starting point is 00:15:29 And in your hair, as it grows out, it can be tested to see what you had ingested drug wise a week, two weeks, a month, even longer before. That that is so smart. Dr. Dupree. Listen to this. Christina Harris's cause of death was initially ruled an accident by the medical examiner's office after a blood sample tested positive for opiates. But her family was adamant Christina did not use drugs. The family even insisted police officers test her frozen breast milk to prove it. Remember, Harris was still breastfeeding and eight-month-old. Friends and family said Harris was very careful about what she put into her body. Plus, she was supposed to go to an OBGYN appointment the morning she was found.
Starting point is 00:16:15 You know, to Karen Drew, joining us on WDIV-TV, I find it very odd that she would actually take heroin just before she was going to the OBGYN. Right. I agree. That seems a little strange if you know you're going to the doctor's office. I mean, we all knew how serious of a mom she was in terms of she was really everything family told me, you know, cared about the kids and making sure the sockets in the wall were plugged and getting healthy food and doing all of this. So it seems strange if she was doing heroin, that she would even be breastfeeding then or if she was doing heroin, she was going to go to the doctor the same day. So let me ask you a question. I keep hearing that the family became upset. They insisted she had never used drugs. Who in the family was upset?
Starting point is 00:17:06 The mother was very upset. And she had two sisters. And I will tell you, those sisters are a force. I mean, they really, really, really were strong on this. And really, Patricia and Katrina just were very vehement. They said, there's just no way I know her. We spend, you know, we do birthday parties together. We do, we have coffee together in the morning. We, I mean, it wasn't just like we just visit on the weekends. They saw each other and talked to each other almost every single day.
Starting point is 00:17:34 So they just, they felt they really knew their sister. But I guess the police were saying, yeah, we hear you, we hear you. But the blood tests show it was OD heroin. Take a listen to our cut, Jay. Davidson police didn't consider the mother of two's death a murder. That is, until Christy's sisters started nosing around. And I'm not a detective, but I mean, I looked up more than I've ever looked up before.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Their first concern, how the crime scene was handled the day their sister's body was found inside her davison home remember her death was deemed an accidental drug overdose as soon as my sister's body left the house and the officer left when she left then there is their sister's breast milk the family kept telling police to check christy's milk it would show she was not doing drugs no tests were run. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. In the last hours, Jason Harris, lying, scheming, conniving husband, realizes his fight to get out of jail is over and he lost. Now, at trial, he tells investigators he serves his wife a bowl of cereal on the evening of September 28th and that she had difficulty even holding on to her spoon. See, he's trying to make her look like a drug addict. She wasn't. He said he had to help her get into bed, and they both went
Starting point is 00:19:12 to sleep. The next morning, she was still asleep, and he left to work. He took the children, and he took the children with him. He closed when she did not respond to his texts. He asked the neighbor to check on her. The neighbor discovered her cold to the touch and unresponsive. At first, investigators believed it was an accidental overdose on her part, but her family refused to believe that and begged police to dig deeper. Let's talk about breast milk. All right. To Dr. Michelle Dupree, former forensic pathologist, medical examiner, and author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide, what will breast milk show, probatively speaking? What can it prove? Well, Nancy, it can actually prove that there was, in this case, heroin in the mother because it is then in the mother's milk.
Starting point is 00:20:08 It also passes along antibiotics and things like that. So basically, whatever you drink or eat will be passed to your baby through your breast milk. Yes, exactly. Huh. I mean, I've heard cases where a mom would have Mexican food and then breastfeed and the baby would get a sick stomach and burp and carry on because it's getting the after effects of spicy food. Is that real? Yes, it is real. And the same thing with alcohol or drugs in this case. Bless you, whoever that was.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Justin Borman, let me go to you. Former Special Victims Unit detective and author. Why would the police be so resistant to the sister saying there's something wrong with that toxicology? Get her breast milk. It's in the freezer. a profession sometimes gets stuck in our silos and not look quite out of them, if you will, or ask questions. As a profession, we are responding to overdose after overdose after overdose. And when we respond on a body and we see the foam cone is what we're calling it, if you will. We go, okay, well, it looks like an opioid overdose. And one of my questions for Dr. Dupree was, we keep calling this heroin, and this is something that's fine. I don't know if it was exactly heroin, but would heroin and an opioid like OxyContin show up in the testing as the same, like an opioid? Are we assuming it was heroin?
Starting point is 00:21:50 What about it, Dr. Dupree? Would it show up as the same if it's heroin versus Oxy? It's going to show up as metabolites, probably, of whatever the original drug was. There may be some native drug as well. And that's one of the things we do is we compare the metabolites to the native drug to determine how long that has been in the system. What did she say? Okay, let me dumbing down my question. Okay, if she had taken oxy, oxycontin, for instance, oxycodone, would it show up in the toxicology test the same way heroin would?
Starting point is 00:22:21 That's a yes, no, Dr. Dupree. Essentially, yes. I knew you would not do it in one word. I didn't know what the other word was going to be, but now I know it's essentially. Okay, so there's your answer. You know what I think, Karen Drew, WDIV? I think that many times cops discount what women tell them.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Women witnesses. Karen, I hear somebody groaning, groaning, all you want to, don't care. I think that the cops went, oh, the sisters are calling again. Who's going to take? Have you ever seen Home Alone? When the mom is calling from Paris and they
Starting point is 00:22:58 go, ah, it's the mom again. You take it. Same thing. It's the sisters again. Ah, she's a heroin addict. do why do they keep calling me you know that's what happened karen drew i i've seen it in the stories i've covered i mean i mean there's many times that there's the roll eyes roll back and say okay whatever and come on it's the sisters what family really very rarely unless it's a very well-known drug addiction does family know about it many times family is surprised and family says,
Starting point is 00:23:26 this isn't true, this couldn't be. So it's no surprise they said that. And you're right with the way the body reacted. You know, the authorities are thinking one way. But I have to say, Nancy, they have this breast milk that they said they had. And they're like, I felt like that kind of opens the door to, like, could we check it? But they check it? And, but they were like,
Starting point is 00:23:48 they don't check it, but no, they wouldn't check it. Certainly our stubborn personal biases are one of those reasons, those male biases, if you will. But I think. Who's admitting, I've got two guys on the panel, Justin Borman and Matthew Mangina, who's confessing to male bias. Justin is. Then everything went quiet. So you've got the sisters just riding the police like a mule, insisting they're all wrong, begging them to test the breast milk. They won't do it. But wait, wait, wait. Now listen to this.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Take a listen to our cut for from Crime Online. Sheila Koop told police that on one occasion she saw Christy Harris run out of her home visibly upset, sobbing. Harris told her that Jason Harris was cheating and her newborn was just two weeks old. Other family and friends also thought Jason Harris was seeing other women. Nearly 5,900 texts were found to a woman from Providence, Rhode Island. There were also emails and pictures sent to several other women. Nine days after Christina died, Jason Harris bought a plane ticket to go visit the woman in Providence. Not long after that, a woman and her daughter
Starting point is 00:25:05 moved in with Jason Harris in the home where Christina had died. What more will it take to put a fire under the rear ends of the police? A woman moves into the home right after Christina dies and brings her daughter to? They didn't know that. Karen Drew? Oh, folks knew that, Nancy. I mean, again, this is a small town. People know what's going on. And she moved in and the kids are in the house. And it just seems strange no matter what, like what's going on. So, yes, lots of people are. I talked to two of the neighbors and they were they were very upset. It seemed very strange. The sisters were mad. They didn't know what was going on. But, you know, it's not illegal to move someone into your house. So, you know, there was no action from police. It took two years, two years after the heroin overdose before anybody finally got around to testing that breast milk.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Now, you know another woman has moved into the home with her children. So, I doubt very seriously that the new girlfriend would keep the ex-wife's breast milk in the freezer. Wait a minute. Take a listen. Hour cut. F. W. D. I. V. Two years after the medical examiner ruled her death an accidental overdose, a key piece of evidence was found at her parents' house. Police were able to secure three plastic packages of Christina Harris's frozen breast milk that were placed in a cooler. All three of those were submitted to the Michigan State Police Crime Lab. In each instance, no controlled substance was detected. So then how did heroin get into her system? Take a listen to more from Michigan State Police. He believed Jason Harris murdered his wife. We believe he put heroin into her cereal and milk the night that she died.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Now take a listen to our cut. See Stephanie Park, NBC 25. One of his co-workers actually claims that Jason Harris first tried to hire him to kill his wife. But that co-worker said no. In court today, this man said he thought that this was all just set out of frustration. That was until he found out Christina, who had just had a baby, was found dead at the home she shared with Jason Harris. He had asked me if I would do it. And he told me he would be able to pay me out of a life insurance policy she had. That shocking question came from Zachariah Shustock's boss. Jason Harris was his supervisor at work.
Starting point is 00:27:54 At the time, Shustock thought it was just Jason venting, but the odd questions continued. I knew of anything that would put her to sleep. Shustock says Jason kept asking for pills. He asked me if I knew of any that were tasteless or that she would not know of being put inside something she was going to eat or drink. Shustock knew Jason was struggling in his marriage because
Starting point is 00:28:15 he would complain a lot to him. He was just saying that Christina wasn't wanting to go back to work, that he believed the child they had wasn't his and that she was just laying around the house, not doing anything. And he was just getting tired of it. That's right, Jason Harris. It's over. You poisoned your wife, the mother of your children, with an O.D. of drugs in her cereal.
Starting point is 00:28:40 She died. You dance to the music. And now it's time to pay the piper, Jason Harris. Can't you imagine this guy thinks he's smarter than everybody in the room, poisons his wife, the mother of his children, in her cereal, then schemes, asking the neighbor to discover her dead body. Can't you imagine him behind bars since his original conviction, swishing his tail and gnashing his teeth, trying to think of any way out? There is no way out except for you to do your time. What do we know about what unfolded? 6,000 text messages to other women, wants to have his wife killed because she's laying around the house and won't go back to work
Starting point is 00:29:25 is this her second child she's still breastfeeding who is this guy you know i nobody can figure him out he really is i mean she is this loving doting mother she's breastfeeding he's i don't i i'm a jackass that's a technical legal, a complete horse's rear end. And another thing. Let's get off him for a moment. Let me hop back on the police. Two years pass. Time passes. So Matthew Mangino joining me, former elected D.A. Lawrence County, now private attorney and author of The Executioner's Toll. Matthew, it took a civil lawsuit, statute of limitations running, ending before the police got off their rear ends. What happened, Matthew? Explain it. Well, really, it's a clever way to gather evidence in this case. The suit was filed, and I'm sure through discovery, they were able to obtain
Starting point is 00:30:28 information about people that he was communicating with, other women, you know, emails, all this sort of thing that would help them begin to build a case, you know, circumstantially, you know, here's a motive, here's a reason why he would want to kill his wife. And then, you know, some of these other pieces began to come together as the state police got involved in this investigation. And they very, you know, fundamentally built a case based on information that they were able to obtain from the defendant in a civil lawsuit. It's a clever maneuver. And I heard you say a reason to kill her. So I guess you're saying that the wife laying around, and that's with air quotas, after giving birth was a reason for murder. OK, before I tear you to shreds on that, Matthew Mangino, here's a good comparison.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Who can forget the O.J. Simpson murder trial? Remember how much more we found out in the civil case, how that was his Bruno Mali footprint at the crime scene in blood, how he failed his polygraph with another, I think, a negative 40 something. Just so much more came out in a civil case than we learned in the criminal case. That's exactly what happened here. But in the reverse order, Nancy, because. Yeah, that's right. Since I went to trial first. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:02 They come after a criminal case because there's a conviction. It's much easier to prove what you have to. The burden of proof is much less in the civil case. But here we have it used, and that's why I say it's clever. They used it in a different way. They used it to accumulate evidence to prosecute
Starting point is 00:32:20 a criminal case. They did. Take a listen to our cut G, our friend Karen Drew, WDIV on that civil lawsuit. Christy's family filed a wrongful death lawsuit, so Jason was deposed under oath. Let's start with another
Starting point is 00:32:36 woman he admitted being in contact with during his marriage to Christy. You sent sexual messages to her? Yes. You disclosed this at some point to your wife? Yes. When did you disclose it to Christy. You sent sexual messages to her? Yes. You disclosed this at some point to your wife? Yes. When did you disclose it to Christy? As soon as she asked about him. She asked what the number was and I told her. Harris also admitted what he said about divorcing Christy. I think it came up as an option for
Starting point is 00:32:59 the whole theory of living in a perfect world. He was questioned about money problems in his marriage. What was the reason for filing bankruptcy? Because we were well over our head. Ben asked about hiring a hitman to kill his wife. Did you ever request that Mr. Shustak kill your wife? No. And if he said that you did, he's either lying or mistaken? No, he'd be lying.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Oh, I love it when defendants do that. Everybody's lying, but them. They're the only person telling the truth. Take a listen to more from Kieran Drew, WDIVR Cut H. The 44-year-old father also talked about what happened inside his Davison home while the couple's two children slept the night before his wife died. When you went to bed that night, you weren't concerned that anything was wrong? Nope. Did you notice anything out of the ordinary? Other than her falling asleep when pumping. She got hungry and made her up a bowl of cereal.
Starting point is 00:34:04 That's what she asked for. Harris left early for work the next day. And when you left, she was alive. Correct. A neighbor then found his wife dead in her bed after Jason called that neighbor asking her to check on Christie. At that time, Christie's death was ruled an accidental overdose. You had nothing to do with your wife's death, right? Correct. Right. Okay, so Kira Drew joining me, WDIV-TV investigative reporter. So the working theory is that he put heroin in her cereal he made her the night before?
Starting point is 00:34:42 Yeah, that was the theory that was going, you know, that's what the prosecutor believed. And there was some digging from the sisters as they were trying to get that information from the civil lawsuit because they were knocking on doors and talking to neighbors and talking to coworkers. And there was some word out on the street that he was unhappy in his marriage. And he was talking to some folks who were known to deal drugs and things like that. So that was kind of the pieces that they were trying to put together that they thought he literally put heroin in her cereal. So is it true that he would proposition people at work to be a hitman? Can you believe that? I mean, we always talk about dumb criminals, but I mean, that was the case. They had two individuals from his work take the stand and talk about how he, one, complained about his wife.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And then a second one, he was looking for a hitman. And then a third, he was trying to get drugs. And there was some situation where he did some, I think it was a Klonopin or some type of drug that he did initially try. There was a weird taste. She was eating. It was a weird taste. So she eating. It was a weird taste. So she didn't finish whatever he tried the first time. And then when he went back and talked to the guy at work, there was just even this guy was like, this guy's a little crazy. I don't want
Starting point is 00:35:54 anything to do with him right now. So he stopped helping him out with his plot. What's amazing to me is that the co-workers just never said anything. You got a guy trying to hire a hitman. And isn't it true that he bragged he hired another hitman for $5,000? And the hitman was doing surveillance and got caught with a gun and sent back to jail because he was on parole. And he bragged about that at work? Yes. Hires a hitman.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Guy gets busted with a gun. Right there now. We got to end. Feel free from the police standpoint. I got to be like, okay, what's going on here? I mean, we've got so much stuff going on. Clearly, somebody is trying to do something to their wife. I mean, you had to interview that guy, but nothing was done. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And I want to go straight out to our shrink joining us. And I say that in a loving, caring way, Dr. Sherry Schwartz. Dr. Sherry, people just sit by and listen to a guy soliciting for a hitman to kill his wife and they do nothing. And then she pops up dead and they still do nothing. Well, we know that this happens more frequently than we care to talk about. I think a lot of times, you know, people think, oh, this guy's just crazy. He's not really going to do it.
Starting point is 00:37:10 He's not serious. He's just talking nonsense. And then you have the other guy who's giving away or selling Klonopin. That's somebody who's highly unlikely to go to the police, right? Because they're engaging in criminal behavior. They don't want to be detected. Where did he work, Karen Drew? I don't remember the name of the facility, but it was.
Starting point is 00:37:31 What was it? It was kind of like a manufacturing factory kind of environment. OK, in case you're wondering whether he got away with it, take a listen to our cut. Be our friend, Karen Drew, WDIV. The jury didn't believe your lies, but now we're finally exposed for the selfish, murdering, lying monster that you are. Judge David Newblatt did not hold back on what he thought about Jason Harris and his plot to kill his wife, Christy Thompson Harris, and cash in on her $130,000 life insurance. What you wanted, all the stuff, you sacrificed your daughters. You took away their mother. That's the first thing you did.
Starting point is 00:38:12 You took away their mother. 47-year-old Harris was found guilty of a murder plot that involved Harris lacing his wife's cereal with heroin, causing her death. Christy was a mother of two. It was her breast milk that would prove she was not doing drugs and was poisoned by her own husband. To Karen Drew, special guest joining us, WDIV-TV.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Where is this POC, another technical legal term, Jason Harris now? Oh, he's behind bars, sentenced to life in prison. I can only hope that he stays there. Oh, I can't even put into words. I've covered a lot of court cases. And as a reporter, you normally you sound from, you know, when somebody takes the stand and talks about that judge. I had never heard a judge go off on an individual more than this judge. And he summed it up, you wanted all the stuff. You wanted her $100,000 life insurance policy. You wanted to buy a car with that. You wanted to
Starting point is 00:39:15 have an affair. You just wanted some stuff. And then you left your two kids without a mom. The 12-year-old, one of the children is 12 right now. They read her statement in court. It was chilling. I mean, she basically said, Dad, you lied to me. You killed my mom. And the children don't want anything to do with him. All I can say is Jason Harris rot in hell, of course. And your conviction for murdering your wife, the mother of your children, with poison cereal is affirmed.
Starting point is 00:39:47 You're staying behind bars. This is a victory for Christina Ann Thompson's family. But she can never be replaced. Her children will grow up without their mother. It's a small victory, but yet a victory indeed. Goodbye, everybody. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.

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