Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Hubby taunts cops, 'FIND THE BODY!'

Episode Date: March 15, 2021

Mary Stella Gomez-Mullet gets married in January but goes missing in February. Her new husband taunts Florida police to “find the body.” Police find her body buried in his Boynton Beach backyard. Roberto Colon, 66, reportedly told police he married Mary Stella Gomez-Mullett so she could become a US citizen. She agreed to live with and take care of his mother, who suffered from dementia.Colon became convinced that Gomez-Mullett had been “defrauding” his mother of thousands of dollars, and had repeatedly threatened to kill her and bury her body in the backyard.Joining Nancy Grace today: Melissa Hoppmeyer - Chief, Special Victims & Family Violence Unit, Prince George's County State's Attorney's Office, Co-Founder of Right Response Consulting, "No Grey Zone" Podcast, www.rightresponseconsulting @NoGreyZoneRRC  Caryn Stark - NYC Psychologist, www.carynstark.com   Robert Crispin - Private Investigator “Crispin Special Investigations” www.crispinsinvestigations.com Dr. Tim Gallagher - Medical Examiner State of Florida www.pathcaremed.com  Alexis Tereszcuk - CrimeOnline.com Investigative Reporter, Writer/Fact Checker, Lead Stories dot Com, Twitter: @swimmie2009  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to an iHeart Podcast. A husband taunts police, hey, find the body. Well, they did. Now he is charged with murder, but can they prove it? You know, I was always suspicious and still am when anybody says you can't prove it or you'll never prove it. That makes me want to prove it even more. We were talking about a lovely young woman, Mary Stella Gomez Mullet. Take a listen to this. Now, police are looking for a woman reported missing in the Boynton Beach area. This is her. It's 45-year-old Mary Stella Gomez Mullet. They have said she's been missing

now for about a week. She is described as being 5'4", 140 pounds, no distinguishing scars or tattoos. Police say anyone with information should contact Crime Stoppers. How many times have we heard that? If you have information, call Crime Stoppers. Very rarely do we have a happy ending. Again, thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM 111. Let me introduce to you an all-star panel. To try to make sense of what we know right now,

Melissa Hotmeyer, the chief of the Special Victims and Family Violence Unit in Prince George's County State Attorney's Office, that's in Maryland, co-founder of Right Response Consulting, No Gray Zone podcast. You can find her at rightrespConsulting.com or on Twitter at NoGrayZoneRRC. We're now on psychologists joining us from the Manhattan jurisdiction. Karen Stark is with us, and she's at Karen Stark with a C. KarenStark.com. Robert Crispin, former cop, now private investigator with his own firm. CrispinSpecialInvestigations.com.

The medical examiner for the entire state of Georgia, you can find entire state of Florida, you can find him at PathCareMed.com. Dr. Tim Gallagher, but first, to CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter, also writer with LeadStories.com, Alexis Tereshak. Alexis, have you ever heard somebody say, you'll never prove it, or you can't prove it, or find the evidence,

or in this case, find the body? I have. This is what criminals say when they are taunting people, like the police, like family members that are desperate to find their loved one. They'll say, you'll never find it. But in this case, they did. You know, you were earlier hearing our friends at CBS 12 News talking about this woman. I'm looking at her photo right now, Mary Stella, beautiful, a perfect tee, dark hair.

She's wearing a giant crucifix and a puffy blouse. She looks so happy. It looks like she's sitting in the den of their home on a big comfy sofa. Out of the blue, Mary Stella seemingly disappears into thin air. Hmm. Take a listen, our friends at WPTV News Channel 5. Authorities say Colon and Gomez-Mulet had a deal to get married in January. Gomez-Mulet would take care of his mother in Hialeah. In exchange, they would wed so she could gain U.S. citizenship.

On February 18th, Gomez-Mulet's family say that she was driving up from Hialeah to Boynton Beach to return a car she was never heard from again. Well, that opens up a lot of territory to Dr. Tim Gallagher. But first, Robert Crispin, private investigator at Crispin Special Investigations. You're joining me out of Florida right now. That's a long stretch of road from Hialeah to Boynton Beach, or at least I think it is. Is it? It's about an hour drive. Depending on traffic, it could be a little bit longer.

Sure. And when you're trying to find a person that had been on that stretch of road, what do you do? Boy, that's a needle in a haystack. It really is. A needle in a haystack. It really is. But why do you say that? There's so many cars here.

There's so much traffic. South Florida is just a plethora of cars and traffic. Depending on what time of the day it is, you could go a mile in two hours. You're kidding. One mile in two hours? But what about license grabbers on the side of the road? You got any of that? I mean, Florida is famous for all of its tolls.

Toll after toll after toll. There's cameras attached to every one of them. Certainly there'll be some kind of video error. What? We call them license plate readers. And what they do is they're grabbing your tag and they're everywhere. They're on 95. They're on the turnpike.

They're on a lot of these side roads. All law enforcement has to do is input that tag number into that system. And that system is going to give us a picture. It's going to give us a location, a GPS coordinate. It just automatically does it. They just grab these tags. Every time you drive by one of these cameras, it automatically grabs it. That would have been the first go-to tool for me if I was working this case. You know, I'm thinking about it. Melissa Hotmeyer, Chief Special Victims Family Violence Unit, joining us out of Maryland. You can catch her on her podcast, No Gray Zone. I like the name of that, Melissa.

Thanks for being with us. You know, have you ever heard somebody say, you don't have any evidence. You can't prove I did it. You can't prove anything. Well, you don't even any evidence. You can't prove I did it. You can't prove anything where you don't even have a body. That would infuriate me on cases where there is no body. I guess people wrongly think that you cannot prosecute a case unless you have a corpus delicti, unless you have a dead body. But long story short, you can, but it's, let's be honest, it's a lot more difficult, Melissa, a lot harder without a body.

Yeah. I mean, those are, those are the worst. I mean, they're prosecutable, but they're the worst cases for prosecutors because juries want to see, you know, what happened. They want to see the evidence and the evidence is in that body. It's really hard to prove both cause and manner of death without a body, but you can certainly do it. You know, you just got to put together a really, really good case and you got to work with good investigators and piece it together. We've all done it. Yeah, it's hard. And there's always the

old defense trick, Melissa Hotmeyer. I don't know if this has ever happened to you, where in closing argument, the defense argues she may even still be alive. We were up against this when I covered the Mike, Michael Peterson. No, excuse me, Drew Peterson, Drew Peterson, the former cop that had, I guess, four wives. One of them, Kathleen Savio, was found drowned, dead in a dry bathtub covered in bruises. Wow, I wonder what happened. Then the last wife, Stacey Peterson, goes missing. And within a couple of weeks, the former cop husband, Drew Peterson, starts giving away her bikinis, her lingerie, her fur coat. He knows she's not coming in the door, but there was never a body. That case has never been prosecuted, Melissa Hotmeyer. And Peterson taunted everyone with the fact of,

hey, she left to go be with her lover. There is no lover. She's dead. He killed her. But there's the defense trick, Melissa. At closing arguments, they would say, hey, she may be holed up in Atlantic City with her boyfriend. As a matter of fact, hey, is that her coming in the door of the courtroom right now? And if a juror looks they could argue see you're not even convinced she's dead i hate when that happens melissa yep that's reasonable doubt right there don't rub it in your worst nightmare yeah yeah i mean it seems like all of these missing body

cases tend to be you know child abuse and domestic violence related. And so there's a pattern. And it's certainly something that is very, very difficult and something that no prosecutor wants to have to deal with. But, you know, we need to bring justice to the family. The family deserves justice. The family deserves to be able to bury their loved one as well. But at least the prosecutor can work on bringing justice. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we were talking about the disappearance of Mary Stella Gomez Mullet. It's a lovely young woman whose husband taunts police, find the body.

Don't look at me. Don't harass me. Find the body. Well, they did. Take a listen to our friends at CBS 12 News. Now, police are looking for a woman reported missing in the Boynton Beach area. This is her. It's 45-year-old Mary Stella Gomez Mullet.

They say she's been missing now for about a week. She is described as being 5'4", 140 pounds, no distinguishing scars or tattoos. Police say anyone with information should contact Crime Stoppers. Of course, you see a problem right at the get-go, too. Karen Stark joining us, renowned psychologist out of the Manhattan jurisdiction. Karen Stark, it was, let's just say, an arranged marriage. She wanted permanent U.S. citizenship. He needed somebody to take care of his mother. He didn't want to take care of her himself. So they married. That was the deal that was struck. So when you are looking at the husband's demeanor, this is a whole nother can of worms. Because do I have those facts right, Alexis Tereshchuk?

Joining us, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter. Before I ask Karen Stark to comment, that's the way it went down, right? It was more of a marriage of convenience. It was not a love match by any stretch no she started out working taking care of his elderly mother and then he offered to her hey i'll marry you you can get green card status so she did it because she really wanted to live here and wanted to be here legally and this seemed like a perfect opportunity for her but instead he totally manipulates her so karen stark those are correct

alexis therese chuck confirms those facts are correct so when you are looking at the husband's demeanor you got to take that into account this isn't like wow they met in college and fell in love or they met on a flight or whatever they met at the coffee shop and it was love at first sight it's not like that at all okay this is not out of a rom-com this was a deal so when you're looking at how he is acting that's part of the you got to factor that in you have to factor in the fact that he is more like an employer instead of a husband a romantic husband and he's in a position of superiority. He's in charge. She gets a green card if she behaves and he marries her. All of it is arranged. And so this kind of superiority puts in, think about the taunting Nancy. He's arrogant, you know, kind of like you're my slave and I'm the master.

And I think that that's how the whole thing evolved. He also sounds paranoid. So the police are the enemy. There's something very specific about a killer who's taunting the police. They're enjoying themselves. Take a listen to our friend Willard Shepard at NBC6. The woman was reported missing on February 20th. Mullet's friend told police that Cologne's home was the place she was heading when they last heard from her. Police said Cologne did tell them Mullet had been there, but he left to go to the doctor and she wasn't there when he returned.

Hmm. Wasn't there when he returned. Hmm. Wasn't there when he returned. Now, did you catch this? Straight out to you, Robert Crispin, PI at Crispin Special Investigations. She was last seen on Feb 18 when she was driving from Hialeah to Boynton Beach. But she was not reported missing until Feb 20. Right. I did. I caught that.

I was expecting a little more. Hey, I'm a JD, not a DDS. I don't know how to pull teeth, but I could try. I could try, Crispin, if I could get to you. So what does it tell you? I mean, listen, we got a two-day window in there that we don't have any information about right now. So what happened between the 18th and the 20th? He's telling them he went to the doctor. I guarantee you they're at the doctor's office trying to see if he was really there. I'm starting right there in my little window. I'm starting right there. That crime scene at that house is growing more and more important to me because that's where she was last. That's very important to me, that house. And then we've also got that stretch from Hialeah to Boynton Beach. So to you, Dr. Tim Gallagher, you've got an objective witness, friends stating, her family

stating she was driving highly at a Boynton Beach. So I guess the first thing you do is start coming that area. Now we hear she was headed to his house. So that becomes a point of interest for police. But I guess the first thing I would do is get a hold of, since it's been two days since she was last seen and he reports her missing, I would get the cadaver dogs. Do cadaver dogs only hit on human tissue or can they hit on some other kind of animal tissue? Well, you know, I'm glad that you mentioned cadaver dogs. We have a very good service run by Russ Russlander out of South Florida and his dogs are trained for about two years and you can train them on discovering

whatever you need to. He trains them to discover human flesh, human decompositional flesh. And if I could give a big shout out to Hercules, who was a wonderful golden retriever, very well trained by Russ Westlander, has helped us in countless, countless cases, including finding underwater. Oh, wow. I'm fascinated with that. Finding a body underwater. A cadaver dog absolutely can do that. You said that a cadaver dog hits on decomposing human tissue. So explain to me why a dog, let's just say top mom Casey Anthony, who said a pizza went bad in her trunk. And that was what the cadaver dog was hitting on. Don't laugh.

A jury apparently believed it. No comment. What's done is done. Can't fix it now. But how do I know a dog is not going to hit on, let's just pretend, a decomposing pepperoni pizza versus a decomposing human body? Well, you have to go with their record. You know, if the cadaver dog hits on something and you explore that area and find a body time after time after time, that dog is going to be very well respected in his field. But if a dog hits on various different things and you can't find the body, then that dog will never, ever be a well-trained cadaver dog. So you really have to go by their experience. And it does take about two or sometimes even three years to train a dog

from the time they're six months old to about two and a half years old to hit on human decompositional tissue. Melissa Hotmeyer, Chief of the Special Victims of Family Violence Unit in Maryland. Melissa, I have been fortunate enough to try multiple cases that included dog witnesses. And I have said ever since my very first dog witness case, the best witness I ever put on the stand was a dog. And that still stands true, regardless of how many cases I've tried or covered. They never fold on cross-examination. They never get tripped up on their words.

And they perform beautifully in court in front of a jury. That is if you practice with them first before the jury comes in. But Melissa Hommeier, I want to follow up on something Gallagher, Dr. Tim Gallagher out of Florida, just told us. You have to prove their record. And it's like laying a foundation for any other piece of evidence in court. If you want to do a handwriting sample, you got to show the known writing. Let's just say all the checks Jackie writes here in the studio compared to the questionable writing. And you have to make a comparison and you have to establish your expert. How many times have you done handwriting comparisons? How many times have you testified? How many articles have you written? How many books have you written? You have to establish that testimony before the judge will say, yes, they're an expert in their field. Therefore, yes, they can testify. And you have to do that typically in front of the jury. So same

thing with the dog, a cadaver dog is what I'm getting back to here, Melissa. Yeah, absolutely. You know, you're going to have to get, you know, like you said earlier, meet with your witness and make sure that you know what the history is, know how many times the dog has testified, been qualified as an expert before, the training that went down for that dog, how long the dog was trained. All of those things you're going to want to put in front of the judge so that they can make that finding that it's an expert that can be relied upon. Because jurors, they want expert testimony and they want to know that the person that they're going to rely on has those qualifications. So it's important to get that in front of the judge so they can make that finding, but also so that the jury buys in and believes what your expert testifies to. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

What happened to this young woman in an arranged marriage, believe it or not, right here in the U.S., but not arranged by parents or anyone else, arranged by themselves. She wanted citizenship. He needed somebody to take care of his mom. The deal was done. He says that she had been in the home when he came back from the doctor. She was gone. Friends say she was driving from Boynton Beach all the way to Hialeah, from Hialeah to Boynton. So what has happened? Where is she? Is she still alive? What can police do? Was there a two-day delay in reporting her? The husband seemingly taunting police, don't harass me, find the body. Well, they did, but can it stick? Take a listen to Steve King, WPBF 25 News.

Dussel Saeed says he's known Colon for three or four years. He's kind of quiet, but I really don't know who he was. Over the years, he kind of, sometimes he pass when he with his dog. Sometimes he say hi to people. Gomez-Mullet went missing over two weeks ago. A few days later, a bloody purse believed to be Gomez-Mullet's was found. About a mile away from the home. A mile away from the home, her purse was found.

Now, in my mind, that corroborates what he said. He came home. She was there. He went to the doctor. He came back, and she was gone. Her purse, bloody is the key factor to me. And that scenario was found a mile away from the home. You were just listening to our friend, Steve King at WPBF. I'm just wondering about a cadaver dog. Back to you, Dr. Tim Gallagher.

A cadaver dog, would it hit on just blood or does it have to be decomposing human tissue? It could be decomposing human tissue. It could also be decomposing human blood. Decomposing tissue releases certain aromas that are not present in living tissue, and that's exactly what the dogs hit on. So it must be decomposing soft tissue, such as muscle, organs, or decomposing blood that has been exposed to the air for approximately 24 to 36 hours. Karen Stark, you hear the neighbors saying, gosh, he was such a quiet guy. I've known him four years. He'd speak to all the neighbors when he walked his dog. Why isn't he always the quiet ones,

the loners, so to speak? You hear that all the time. Isn't that interesting? And it's true. So well behaved, such a nice person. Well, because behind it all, they're really ruthless killers, but they're able to split their personality. So they come off as being quite normal, you know, the way we would expect our neighbor to be. And that's what makes it so fascinating that they're really able to be this other person and portray themselves that well. So the search between Boynton Beach and Hialeah is going on. The search of the home is going on. Take a listen to our cut five from our friends at WPBF 25. Cologne told detectives they had an argument. A later search of C Colon's home led to investigators finding blood on the front door and different parts of the house. He said it was from his injured dog.

Police say Colon, when talking with detectives, called Gomez-Mullet different expletives and said that she was, quote, swimming with the fishes. Did I just hear that correctly, Jackie? That he called her names after she goes missing and says she's, quote, swimming with the fishes. Yes. Okay. Well, right there, I want to arrest him right now. But, sadly, there's not enough proof. She goes missing.

He says she's swimming with the fishes and calls her a lot of slurs and names. But that's not enough for an arrest warrant, Melissa Hotmeyer. No, it's not. But I want to arrest him, too. I want to arrest him right now. In fact, I want to go ahead and just give him the death penalty. But I'm going to hold back. You know, another thing.

What about this? Robert Crispin, I don't know if I need a P.I., but since I've got you, the founder of Crispin Special Investigations, former law enforcement. There is blood on a doorknob, and he says it's from an injured dog. Since when does a dog open the door with a doorknob? Listen, they zeroed in on this guy right from the get-go. I guarantee you from being a trained investigator and dealing with these trained investigators, and I've worked with a lot of Boynton Beach guys at the very high speed police department and the things that you just don't hear that are in the press.

These investigators are so trained. They sit and they talk to somebody just like you do, Nancy, when you were a prosecutor. You know, internally with your sixth sense, something's going on with this guy. They had a person of interest from the time they walked in that front door. Everything else just started to come together.

As soon as they found that purse, what did that do that do boom they put it right by his house so guess what we don't have to look back in highly anymore do right no now now we're finding blood on the doorknob boom his story that the dog did it i don't think so let's test that i mean the dog did it that's like uh that's uh like making excuse to oh it starts with the dog ate my homework now they're blaming the dog for the blood in the home but the reality is dr tim gallagher when minutes count detectives can't tell by looking at the blood whether it's human blood or dog blood uh that is true but they can do a quick uh in-field test with something called a phenolphthalein to determine if it's human or not. So it's no, it'll just take a few minutes to verify human or not.

Phenolphthalein. How does that work, Dr. Gallagher? Well, if it is human blood, it'll turn one color. It'll turn purple, purple color. And if it is not human blood, it will just stay colorless. Can you tell me that one more time? We're talking about phenolphthalein, and it is a, quote, field test, which means you don't just do it in the lab, you take it out in the field with you. Tell me again how it works, please. Well, phenolphthalein is a liquid, and you would apply it to a sample of the blood that you found in question.

And if the blood is human blood, then the phenolphthalein test strip will turn a purple color. That would indicate it's human blood. If it does not turn the purple color, that would indicate it is either not blood or not human blood. So this guy all along this husband taunts the cops, challenges them to, quote, find the body as they search for his missing newlywed bride. Bam, they did. And he helped them all the way down the Primrose Path. Take a listen to Josh Navarro, WPTV. Police say a bloody purse believed to be

the victim's was found just down the street a few days later from Colon's house. Colon's arrest affidavit says a source came forward to police saying that Colon, through telephone calls, threatened to kill Gomez-Moulet and bury her in the backyard. Police obtained two search warrants, one for the backyard where they found his wife's remains. Mary's friend is still trying to make sense of it all. I have a lot of pain in my heart because I always had the hope that she was alive. Something happened, but I couldn't... Guys, the family distraught, the friends distraught, neighbors and family say nothing like that ever happens

in that neighborhood. Well, it did. I mean, but could you get original one time, Karen Stark? Buried in the backyard? Really? Not only that, Nancy, he actually gave it away. He's saying, you know, the dog did it, but he's threatening to bury her in the backyard. So why is it so often we don't believe people when they say things like, I'm going to kill you and bury you in the backyard? Why would you even say that? I think that you have to believe when somebody says something that outrageous to you, you need to believe that there's something behind it and not think, well, nobody's capable of doing that. We know people are capable of doing that. So believe it. If somebody threatens to kill you and that's specific about what they're going to do with you, believe it. To Melissa Hotmeyer, Chief Special Victim and

Family Violence Unit at Prince George's County State Office there in Maryland. Melissa Hotmeyer, Chief Special Victim and Family Violence Unit at Prince George's County State Office there in Maryland. Melissa Hotmeyer, are you married, may I ask? I am. Has your husband ever said, I'm going to kill you? He has not, but if he has, I think he'd be talking to some of my friends at the police department. Much less a divorce lawyer. Hey, Melissa, you know what? I've known my husband for many years before we got married,

and we've been married now about 14 years. Never once have either of us said the words, I'm going to kill you. I mean, not even really joking. You know, a lot of times people say joking, I want to kill him. We don't even say that joking, much less seriously. I mean, I think that, you know, when somebody says that to you, and especially in the case where you don't know them, and this couple obviously didn't know each other well, you should believe them and you should leave. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Right now we're talking about a lovely young woman, Mary Stella Gomez.

Mullet wants desperately to be a U.S. citizen. She enters a deal, a deal with the devil, to marry Robert Cullen in exchange for looking after his mom shortly after she's never seen alive again. And the husband taunts police, hey, try, find the body. Otherwise, leave me alone. Well, they did find the body in his backyard. Alexis Tereschuk, following up on that, I've never heard you or your husband speak ill. Even jokingly, I want to kill him. Those are very serious words, but think about it, Alexis. How many times in cases that we have covered or investigated, have those words been uttered? For instance, with Robert Blake, he threatened Bonnie Lee Bakley. He talked about killing her, and then he did. I don't care what the jury said. What about Orenthal James Simpson, O.J. Simpson?

He beat Nicole Brown over and over and over. He threatened violence on her. He threatened to kill her. And then he did. It's pretty obvious. And so in this case, yes, that happened with OJ. It happened with Robert Blake. The police did not help. You know how I hate it when you call Simpson by his first name, like you're friends, like you're going to have dinner together. Go ahead.

Well, this guy actually had been threatening this for a couple of months. The Mary Stella's friend said they heard him say these exact specific things. I'm going to kill you and bury you in the backyard. Not just I'm going to kill you. Oh, I'm so mad you burned dinner. I'm going to kill you. I'm hungry. No, this was I'm going to kill you and bury you in the backyard. It actually reminds me of Mel Gibson and those tapes where he was threatening his,

the mother of his child. And he was saying, I'm going to bury you in the rose garden. She is lucky that he didn't bury her in the rose garden. But it's, you know, interesting how people make these threats. We, we discount, I don't, but a lot of people discount them. But in this case, it absolutely came true. Take a listen to Steve King, WPSB. Police also say Colon called a certain room in his house a French word meaning slaughterhouse. And he said things like that police will not be able to, quote, put Humpty Dumpty back together again. And that Gomez Mullet was, quote, swimming with the fishes. But it's something we not respect to happen in this neighborhood,

because in this part of Buenton Beach, it's very quiet. Everybody know everybody. So let me go to you. Alexis Tereschuk, what was the condition of her body once it was, I mean, he basically laid out the breadcrumbs for them to follow like a big idiot. And they did. But what's interesting, I guess I'm going to need to shrink on this. Why would he taunt police about finding the body?

But Alexis Tereschuk, what was the condition of Mary Stella's body when it was found? Luckily, it wasn't as decomposed as you would think after being buried under the ground. They were able to use her fingerprints, so her hands were still intact, to identify her. Although, if you have to use fingerprints, I guess, then you're not looking at the face and saying, oh, that's for sure Mary Stella. So they had to use fingerprints. What does that mean? Joining me is an expert medical examiner for the state of Florida. You can find them at pathcaremed.com. Dr. Tim Gallagher, what does that mean that they had to use fingerprints to identify her body? Well, that means that she was in some sort of state of decomposition. And, you know, we do have to identify.

It's a responsibility of the medical examiner to identify an individual in the case of a homicide. Now, we have to identify them scientifically, and by scientifically, we have to identify them by some unique identifier that is present only on their body. So, fingerprints would be one way of identifying someone scientifically. Using their DNA would also be that way, as well as dental records. So it's not just looking at a visual facial recognition for identification. We have to identify them in a scientific sense. You know, even if the body was never found, do you hear what all he was saying to you? New York psychologist joining us today, Karen Stark, he referred to a particular room in the home as a slaughterhouse.

He used all sorts of slurs and demeaning comments about the victim, Mary Stella. That alone, he said she was, quote, swimming with the fishes. All that together, in conjunction with the bloody purse, the blood on the doorknobs, which is proven by a field test to be human, in my mind would be enough to prosecute him, whether you find the body or not. What is it in the human psyche that would make someone make these comments, taunting police? Well, this is such classic psychopathic behavior, Nancy, that we could put this in a textbook.

Think about it. I mean, absolutely devoid of guilt, right? No empathy. His behaviors are outrageous. He places the blame on others, on the dog and she. He's paranoid about her. And he has that arrogance where he wants to infuriate the police to feel superior, you know, to show that he's in charge. The taunting, just the taunting alone would show you that this is not your normal person that you come across in the street.

This is somebody who has no conscience. To Melissa Hopmeyer, joining us out of Maryland, you and I know, especially with your background as Special Victims and Family Violence Unit Chief, that the most dangerous time for a woman in any kind of relationship is when she plans to leave the relationship. Now, the same friend we alluded to earlier said that Mary Stella had gone to the home to return items to Colin and cut off ties with him. That one factor, based on statistics alone, tells me that is when the violence occurred when she tried to break up. Absolutely. You're right. It is the most dangerous time. It's why, unfortunately, so many victims don't leave

because they're afraid of what will happen when they do. And this is just proof that the worst did happen. And, you know, I'm sure he flew into a rage because nobody leaves him. And we all know what happened next. We know that on a follow-up interview two days later, police noticed blood on the front door of Colon's home, as well as in his workshop. Now, he claims first it came from a dog. Then he also said it came from a cut he got while working in his workshop. You know, don't you just love it? Robert Crispin, former cop, now runs his own PI business, Crispin Special Investigations, when the husband of all people changes the story about the blood.

Well, Nancy, he himself is just putting our case together for us every time he opens his mouth. And the only thing, if you go from the time that law enforcement showed up all the way through finding the purse, all the way through finding the blood, all the way through finding the stories, in any other case that you watch anywhere in the u.s where someone's not guilty what do we not see with this husband where's the where is the oh my god where's my wife oh my god what can i do to help you oh my god i love her oh my god what happened to her we don't have any of that so from the time that the police walked in there was no compassion if his wife was missing he He walked us right through his own

prosecution. And I love a guy that just keeps talking because I won't shut him up. I will let him keep talking and talking. And when it comes to the blood, like the doctor said, that pretemptive test takes about a minute, swab it, it's human blood, I'm getting my search warrant. And it's just going to unfold from there. So his statements put him in jail, along with the scientific evidence, will convict him. Man, you're not kidding. And another comment he made, quote, at least you didn't find a body at my house. I mean, it goes on and on with this guy. Take a listen to our friends.

Earlier, we were hearing our friends WPBF. Take a listen now to Our Cut 10. Take a listen now to Our Cut 9. Steve King, 25 News. Roberto Colon appearing virtually in a Palm Beach County courtroom Saturday morning. I understand he's going to be held based on the seriousness of the charges. Count one, which is the premeditated first three murder. As of now on count one, there's no bond. Investigators searched Colon's home on Southeast 28th Court in Boynton Beach on Friday, finding the remains of Mary Stella Gomez Mullet in the backyard. Colon told

investigators the two were married, so Gomez Mullet could acquire U.S. citizenship. Now the defense is trying desperately to get all of his comments thrown out of evidence. Will it take the case? We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace, Crime Story, signing off from buried in the backyard. Goodbye, friend. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.