Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Influencers Caught Abusing Children Inside Luxury Home Now FOR SALE
Episode Date: April 27, 2024A 12-year-old boy climbs out of a window in a home, running to neighbors begging for food and water. The boy is the son of Ruby Franke, a popular blogger, known for the YouTube channel "8 Passengers."... The home belonged to Franke's business partner Jodi Hildebrandt. Neighbors called police. Officers said the boy looked emaciated and malnourished. Cops also noted that the boy had “deep lacerations from being tied up with rope” and duct tape around his wrists and ankles.. After searching Hildebrandt’s home, police found Franke’s 10-year-old daughter in a similar condition. Both children were taken to a hospital. Franke's parenting channel "8 Passengers," which at one time boasted over 2 million followers, doled out parenting advice, and in her video, she admits to withholding food as a form of punishment. Both women have been charged with six counts of aggravated child abuse. Joining Nancy Grace Today: Donna Kelly – Former Utah Senior Deputy District Attorney and Attorney for Crime Victims Legal Clinic; Helped form the Utah County Sex Crimes Task Force Dr. Dana Anderson – Forensic Psychologist and Consultant, Court-appointed expert witness, X: @psychologydrcom/TikTok: @psychologydr Jason Jensen – Private Investigator (Jensen Private Investigations), Cold Case Expert (Salt Lake City, UT), and Co-founder: “Cold Case Coalition;” Investigations; Twitter: @JasonJPI, Facebook/Instagram: “Jensen Investigations” Dr. Free N. Hess – Pediatrician/Pediatric Emergency Medicine, Child Safety Expert & Consultant, Founder of www.PediMom.com Emily Ashcraft- Reporter for KSL.com in Utah; Twitter: @emilyjaneen3 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Ruby Frankie, the disgraced online influencer with 8 million followers,
listening to her as she doles out advice on parenting.
That is until she's convicted of starving and beating and
torturing her children. Now, of course, the husband got a divorce over her treatment of the children,
but where was he during all this? How come he's not charged? I'm just curious. But remember,
she had a partner, a partner in crime. Jodi Hildebrandt was basically her co-anchor on the series called Eight Passengers.
Boy, they were making a mint of that and the whole time abusing their children.
Well, in the last hours, we learned Jodi Hildebrandt's sprawling Utah desert mansion goes on the market for $5 million,
including the evil so-called panic room where Ruby Frankie's starving children were tortured.
Curious viewers are racing to tour the house of horrors,
all pretending they're interested in buying it.
Who would want to buy a home where children were tortured?
I'm Nancy Grace.
This is Crime Stories.
Thank you for being with us here at Crime Stories.
Ruby Frankie and Jody Hildebrandt.
May they both rot in hell.
Of course, they've got a little pit stop at the penitentiary.
In the last days, Jody Hildebrandt's desert fortress reduced in value to less than $5 million.
It's got 15 feet ceilings, a beautiful pool, an outdoor spa, and a panic room.
And you couldn't give it to me on a silver platter on top of a Christmas tree.
No.
Thank you.
Keep it.
Frankie and Hildebrandt both pled guilty to aggravated child abuse a couple of months ago.
And now this mansion on the market.
I really think the proceeds need to go to the children victims.
It's a four-bedroom mansion,
and I call it a fortress because it kind of blends in with the desert.
About 10,000 square feet was originally listed for $5.3 million,
but now that price has been slashed because nobody wants to touch it with a 10-foot pole.
It was from this mansion that Ruby Frankie's emaciated, starving little 12-year-old boy escaped,
running to a nearby home, leading police back to Hildebrandt's home to find the little sister slumped over, starved inside a closet.
Let's kick it off with our friends at ABC.
Arrest documents saying the child escaped to a neighbor's home.
The 12-year-old child described by that neighbor in a phone call to police as emaciated and malnourished with open wounds.
Court documents also describing deep
lacerations from being tied up with a rope. He's also saying that there's two of his sisters are
back at the home as well. Police say they also found Frankie's 10-year-old daughter malnourished.
Frankie is known for her strict parenting advice to millions of TikTok and YouTube followers.
Police say a clearly malnourished 12-year-old child
crawled out of the window of Hildebrand's Ivins area home.
A neighbor called 911 when he showed up at their house
asking for food and water.
Officers say his wrists were duct taped.
He had wounds from being tied up across his body.
Investigators say they found a 10-year-old girl
inside the same house who was also malnourished.
You're also hearing our friends at KSL. So we have at least one child who had apparently just
turned 12 crawling out the window of the family home, starved. And believe you me,
if you haven't ever seen it, I hope you never do.
I pray to God you never do.
Because when you see a child that has been starved, as I have,
it's something you never forget.
I remember when I was going to South Carolina to discover the Alex Murdoch double murder trial. I passed a yard and there was a dog tied up in the front yard to a stake.
And I could see the dog's ribs.
And it reminds me when I went to Aruba with Natalie Holloway's mother just recently tried to turn up new evidence for at the end of the island where the lighthouse is.
There was a pack of dogs, maybe four or five of them that kept coming up to us, chasing after us.
And they look like skeletons that their ribs were poking out.
And it just I've thought about them over and over and over.
And when you see a child with their ribs poking out, clearly emaciated, I can't even get the dogs out of my mind, much less the children that I saw that way as a prosecutor. And not just once, over and over and over, food deprivation, starving your child.
I think about this 12-year-old little boy to the point where he crawls out the window
and goes to a neighbor asking for food. And the neighbor sees lacerations,
lacerations where the child has been tied up.
And then we learn that there's another child in the home,
a 10 year old little girl with the same lacerations,
malnutrition, malnourished, living in that home.
Who in the hell is the mommy? Who in the hell is the dad that would do this to their children?
Well, I hope you're sitting down. Take a listen to our friends at GMA. A Utah mom
influencer arrested facing six felony counts of aggravated child abuse. For the first time,
we're hearing emergency responders as they see one of Ruby Frankie's children after he allegedly
escaped through a window. The male does have duct tape around each ankle. He's not telling the RP why.
And so that there's sores around his wrists and ankles, he's becoming, or correction, the RP is becoming emotional regarding the child's health.
I'm going to go ahead and have medical data on this one.
With me in All-Star panel to make sense of what we know right now.
But first, I want to go to investigative reporter with KSL.com out of Utah.
Emily Ashcraft is with us. Emilyily thank you for being with us who is this woman and we're hearing a lot about the mom but as far as i'm concerned
the father can go straight to hell too but first tell me who is she? She is a family YouTuber, vlogger.
And the family, actually, its YouTube channel faded out or stopped recently.
And she started up another YouTube channel as a counselor instead of a mom.
What is Eight Passengers?
So that's the family's YouTube channel. And she said in an article KSL wrote years ago that she started the channel because she wanted other moms who were kind of starting out with infants to see what it's like to have kids that are getting older.
Kind of the rewards of motherhood is what she wanted to show off in the 8 Passengers YouTube channel.
Ruby Frankie, YouTuber, mom of six.
Ruby Frankie, F-R-A-N-K-E.
How many followers?
I understand over 2.2 million subscribers to 8 Passengers channel.
That's the numbers that I've seen as well.
Okay.
Who in the hay is drinking the Kool-Aid?
That's what I want to know.
And I want to go now to Donna Kelly, former Utah senior deputy district attorney and lawyer
for Crime Victims Legal Clinic.
Donna, thank you for being with us.
And I've seen this over and over and over.
It's not just a story. It's not something we're reporting on. It's not some fiction or TV made
for TV movie. Not only do you have the parents abusing the child horribly, but people around
them, they know what's happening and they do nothing.
What is wrong with these people?
I mean, it's not as if this just happened and they suddenly say, oh, the child has bruises all over their arms.
That's suspicious.
They're starved.
They're starved.
That takes a long period of time, Donna Kelly, and nobody noticed?
Yes, it does.
And unfortunately, many abusers have the mindset that they work hard at portraying themselves as, you know, the good parent, the parent you go to when you need advice.
That type of thing is not uncommon.
And so that appears to be what's going on here is that this particular set of parents decided that they were going to portray themselves as the ideal parent and put that out there
to the world.
And apparently, at least 2.2 million people were fooled guys i just want you to hear something
uh take a listen to our friends at fox 13 independent journalist and youtuber katie
paulson tracks child abuse cases she says frankie's youtube channel eight passengers
caught her attention and she was saying how she would send her daughter to school with no food
and it was almost like she was bragging about it.
She recalls another time when Frankie's son openly talked about his punishment on the channel.
He was talking about how he had been sleeping on the floor on a beanbag chair
and how his mom had taken away his bed and has taken away his door.
That child had to sleep on a beanbag chair for seven plus months for pulling a prank
on his brother. A prank, I might add, that didn't even cause any physical harm.
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
I'm taking a look right now at Jody Hildebrandt's Utah mansion.
It's now on the block for around $5 million.
The price has been slashed.
It's huge. It was here that Hildebrandt and the mommy blogger Ruby Frankie held Frankie's children captive while they starved and tortured them.
I can see in the distance the nearest home, and this little boy, starved, 12 years old,
covered in bruises and cuts from being duct taped and held captive, emaciated.
The guy who called 911 actually broke down crying on the call.
I'm taking a look at it, and the little boy had to run through Cactus barefoot to get
to the neighbor's home to get help for the little sister.
Now I'm looking at a picture of Hildebrandt and Frankie
sitting all dressed up with their hair blown out
and beautiful clothes.
It looks like a luxurious pit group in somebody's home
as they conduct their mommy blogging show.
I mean, this makes my stomach hurt.
And here we've got a mom starving the children and bragging about it online.
What I also don't understand, to Dr. Dana Anderson, forensic psychologist and consultant, you can find her at psychologydoctor.com.
She's bad enough.
But who are the 2.2 million people that tune in to watch her gibberish? Well, I can tell
you, I certainly wasn't tuning in and I'd never even heard of Ruby Frank until this came up.
But what's more deplorable is that her sidekick, Jodi Hildebrandt, who's a licensed professional,
who's observing this the whole time. 2.2 million people following this witch straight from hell.
I want you to hear more of what we have learned. Take a listen to our friends at Fox 13.
Diane Nevins remembers being horrified at what she was watching on YouTube.
It was kind of like every video there was something to be shocked about. Her son couldn't
walk until he was like two and a half years old,
and she never got him any help.
And she admitted that at one point he had fallen off the couch
or she dropped him.
He had gotten no physical therapy, anything.
Nevins says when she commented her concerns, she was blocked by Frankie.
What exactly, to Emily Ashcroft joining us,
investigative reporter for KSL.com,
what was found in the home after the neighbor has to call 911 when she gets a 12-year-old little boy
who says his 10-year-old sister's inside with the same injuries, starved, starved,
and covered in lacerations showing the child had been tied up.
What did cops find when they go inside?
They found a second child.
The two youngest children in the family were both so starved.
The one that didn't crawl out initially refused medical care,
but after interacting with her for a while, they kind of
said, let's go to the hospital as well. And both of the women were charged with six counts,
three for each child of aggravated child abuse. Authorities say that both children were described
as, quote, their words, not mine, emaciated and malnourished with open wounds and duct tapes around the extremities begging for food and water.
Begging for food and water.
And this woman, and don't think I'm letting the husband off.
Oh, no, I'm getting to him.
This woman actually has a YouTube channel where she dispenses advice.
I'm just imagining the inside of that home and how the children were bound with duct tape.
And apparently their skin was burned with ropes having tied them up.
What kind of mothering and fathering is that?
And it brings to mind the so-called House of Horrors.
Yes, the evil Turpin parents.
Their daughter crawled out of the house, out of a
window, and ran to call 911 to save her brothers and sisters. They were found in the same exact
condition. Take a listen to our cut, 35-hour friends at ACGTN. Officials say when they
entered the Turpin home, they found a modern-day horror. Foul smell, extremely dirty conditions, and they say it was immediately clear that the siblings were malnourished.
Authorities say they found three of the children shackled to their beds with chains and padlocks,
kept in dark and unclean conditions inside this Riverside County, California home.
Deputies located 12 children inside the house as young as two years old.
And upon further investigation, when authorities went to their last home where the Turpins lived,
they found claw marks on the inside of closet doors where children had tried to claw their way
out. And listen to this 911 call on our cut 36. This is a turpin child that crawled
out the window, much like this influencer's child did. Okay, I live in a family of 15 people,
and my parents are abusing, they abuse us. And my two little sisters right now are teamed up.
And how many of your siblings are tied up? Two of my sisters,
one of my brothers. How are they tied up? With rope or with what? With chains. They're chained
up to their beds. Guys, also, I can't forget the case of Jennifer Wolfthal. Take a listen to our
Cut 34. Our friend Stephen Helling over at People.com.
According to an arrest report obtained by WFTV,
Wulffal was arrested that time after her husband arrived at the hospital
with their 8-year-old daughter who suffered from conditions including pneumonia,
a staph infection, and liver failure.
Authorities say the girl was also malnourished and had multiple bruises,
a skin infection, and several open wounds.
Wulffal is the author of the children's book, A Real Friend.
It has been removed from sale by its publisher.
See the connection I'm making right there?
You've got this woman who is an influencer who has a YouTube channel about parenting.
She has mistreated and abused her children.
They're starving.
They're tied up with duct tape.
When cops get there,
they still have duct tape on their extremities. It looks like they have rope burns and they're begging for food and water, having to climb out the window to get to a phone to call 911,
begging neighbors to give them something to eat. And here is this book author who has her child covered in bruises with skin infections,
open wounds. You know what makes Ruby Frank different from the turpin mom? Ruby Frankie
is glamorous. Yeah. She has this YouTube channel and boy, is she making the most of it.
Guys, I want you to take a listen to Dr. Free Hess joining us.
Pediatrician, pediatric emergency medicine expert, child safety expert. And you can find Dr. Free Hess at PDMom.com.
Let me spell that.
It doesn't look like it sounds.
It's like pediatrician. P as in Peter,
E, D as in daffodil, I. P-E-D-I mom dot com. Dr. Freehiss, thank you for being with us.
What this woman has is hair and makeup. That's what makes her different from the Turpin family or the other mom.
They're all Beelzebub, straight from hell. They're the devil's minions.
Yeah. And that's actually a very big misconception that a lot of people have about abusers,
child abusers specifically. I think a lot of people have in their mind that it's only a certain
type of person that can do these types of evil things to children.
And it's not. It can literally be anybody. Yeah. You know, you think you know your neighbor. You
think you know all about what's going on in your neighborhood. These children are being starved
in their own home, assaulted, tied up with ropes and with duct tape that we know of based on the
evidence we're hearing so far,
and nobody did a thing, and people kept watching this woman online.
Jason Jensen joining me, Salt Lake City, Utah, private investigator,
owner of Jensen Private Investigations,
co-founder of the Cold Case Coalition,
and you can find him at jensenprivateinvestigations.com.
This is in your neck of the woods.
What do you have to say?
Well, Nancy, there's a lot that can be said here.
It's interesting that, you know,
the outer image that was being portrayed is, you know,
like you describe her glamorous mom,
raising six kids wants to show off to the world how to do it.
Right.
Well, you know, that seems to really have like a Mormon household style image.
Oftentimes in the church here in our community,
they try to portray to the world a model style of raising a family.
And unfortunately, this lady took matters way to the extreme.
We're not just showing like discipline online, but goes to the extreme of child abuse.
Now, this 10,000 square foot home that has just gone on the market includes a, quote,
panic room in the basement with a vault-like door that locks from the outside.
This is where apparently the children were tortured.
Police found a mix of cayenne hot pepper and honey that would be put on the children's wounds.
How badly do you think that hurt? To have open wounds on your wrist,
your arms, your waist, your ankles, and then have your own mother put cayenne pepper on the open
wounds? Oh man, I wonder if that's what Satan's going to do to her in hell. I don't know. But that's for them to figure out.
Right now, I'm taking a look at coils of rope that were used to bind and tie up these little children.
What more do we know?
Guys, when someone did try to speak out against Ruby, Frankie, take a listen to what happened in Our Cut 17, Fox 13.
Paulson also saying when she did a report on what Frankie and her kids were saying in the videos,
she was threatened to be sued. She forwarded me an email from Frankie's lawyer sent in 2020 that
says, in part, we represent the family vlog channel eight passengers who continue to be
harmed by defamatory videos uploaded to YouTube by your client and saying it resulted in a baseless visit by child protective
services. They always say, if you see something, say something. And in this case, when people said
something, they were threatened. Let me understand something, Emily Ashcroft, joining us from KSL.
Child protective services went to the home, even though now Frankie is
claiming that was baseless. And what, they found nothing? They couldn't tell anything was going on?
Yeah, they went to the home to talk about those claims that you brought up in videos. It was
clear that she sent a child to school without lunch and had a child sleeping on a beanbag.
And so they went to investigate those. and that didn't lead to any charges at
that point. You know, it's red flags, but I guess not. Red flags. I watched it. She brags about
withholding food from her children. How is that okay? Take a listen to our cut 22. This is Ruby
Frankie in Eight Passengers. Russell got the big bedroom and
Chad got the smaller bedroom.
And Russell's bigger bedroom also had
a bathroom. But what you guys didn't know
was Chad didn't get
any room. He didn't get anything.
He was sleeping on the floor in the family
room. Abby, we took the phone
away from Abby
in November.
And you may never get the phone back. And you may,
you may never get the phone back.
And my kids are literally starving.
I hesitate to say this because it's going to sound like I'm like a mean
barbarian,
but I told the kids,
I said,
I'm not even going to let you eat breakfast until you get your chores done.
It's not just that she's withholding food.
And it's not just because they didn't do chores one morning before school.
It's all the time. You don't get to a point of starvation when you occasionally skip breakfast.
Isn't that true, Dr. Freehiss, pediatrician? Yes, absolutely. You don't get to be feeded by
missing a meal or two here or there.
And you don't appear to be that to outside people unless you're missing a substantial amount of meals and nutrition, which can then lead to a whole host of other things that unfortunately these kids may have to deal with.
So in One Fill Swoop, we hear about withholding food until chores are done in the morning, not giving one child a place to sleep.
But there's a certain amount of bragging, of bravado, of joviality, of cheer in the way she describes how she's treating her children and what everybody just stands by and
licks it up like they're a pig at the trough. Take a listen now to cut 24 more of Ruby Frankie.
I just got a text message from Eve's teacher and she said that Eve did not pack a lunch today and
can I bring a lunch over to the school? This happens quite often when you're having raising children because I know that her teacher
is uncomfortable with her being hungry and not having a lunch and it would ease her discomfort
if I came to the school with lunch.
But I responded and just said, Eve is responsible for making her lunches in the morning and
she actually told me she did pack a lunch. So the natural outcome is she's making her lunches in the morning. And she actually told me
she did pack a lunch. So the natural outcome is she's just going to need to be hungry. And
hopefully nobody gives her food and nobody steps in and gives her a lunch. And isn't it true that
at that time, Emily Ashcroft, KSL, this little girl was only six years old. That's what I saw. This is a, you know, first grader. Just, you know,
first year she's bringing food to school probably. And later the mom said, you know, justifying it
after Child Protective Services were called, she said, you know, it was, I didn't learn until
two hours before the end of school and and it was a 45-minute drive.
So getting it to her.
Really?
Because that's not what she said in her blog.
But her attitude.
She said it was because the six-year-old girl did not pack her own lunch.
She said that she knew it would ease the teacher's discomfort if her child had food.
What about the child?
What about the child's discomfort?
That's not all. Take a listen to our cuts 27, 28, more of Ruby Franke.
Kevin and I, we have six children. The two youngest are showing long patterns of selfishness.
They have been showing through their choices, their unwillingness to repent, their unwillingness
to feel sorrow over some pretty egregious choices that they've made.
So Kevin and I have decided that we are going to give the gift of truth to them this year
for Christmas.
We are going to give them the gift of boundaries and we're going to give them the gift of repentance. So we sat down with them
and we let them know how deeply sorrowful we've been
because of the choices that they've been making
and how it's affected their teachers at school.
It's affected their peers.
It's affected our home, the siblings.
And we just laid it out very clear.
And we told them that this year they are not going to be visited by Santa.
You know what?
I wouldn't take this, as I said, on a silver platter.
This home, this $5 million so-called fortress, it's in a sleepy little community and very, very upscale homes all around it.
It's got this gorgeous mahogany front door, skylights, 15-foot ceilings, beautiful views of a desert landscape. And this is a kitchen
a lot of women would kill for. Double ovens, top-of-the-line appliances, gorgeous marble top
counters, a stainless steel sink, a butler's pantry with its own dishwasher, fridge, and microwave. The primary bedroom has a fireplace, a walk-in closet,
washer, dryer, a soaking tub, a steam room, good gravy. The lower level has another full-size
kitchen, a home theater, a family room, pool, spa, fire pit, outdoor kitchen, five-car garage. You know, it makes me wonder,
why are rich people so miserable and so darn mean?
I don't get it.
Police recovered knotted ropes from a drawer in the panic room.
Metal chains connected to a set of handcuffs were tied to one end. All this money
in this beautiful desert mansion. And this is what they did with their blessings.
The man that called 911 described the little boy as emaciated. and he and his wife were offering the little boy water and fruit.
The little 12-year-old told police he tried to get away a month earlier, and his mother
then bound his wrists and ankles with handcuffs.
There was a malnourished, starving little girl whose head had been shaved,
sitting cross-legged in a closet.
Police finally got her out of the closet.
After four hours of begging and cajoling, culminating in the officers ordering her pizza.
I think that's how they finally got her out.
The little thing was so starved she wouldn't come out, but when she smelled the pizza, it's my understanding she came out. These children were
forced to work in oppressive desert heat for hours with practically no food or water. The little 12
year old boy was so badly sunburnt for weeks out in the sun without any suntan protection.
We now know Frankie and Hildebrandt routinely withheld food.
While crime scene photos, oh, this makes me sick just to say it.
The crime scene photos show a pantry full of snacks and food. I've looked at the crime scene photos
and the photos of the children. The photos look like those horrible photos of Holocaust
victims that were starving, badly, badly malnourished. All starving to death.
Now I'm looking at the, oh gosh, the pantry.
It's full of belonging.
Foodstuffs tied with ribbons like they were bought at a specialty store.
Cake mixes, honey, Nestle's Quick, just all sorts of things.
On the very top are shelf pie fillings.
There's some Duncan Hines cake icing.
But not for these children.
Not for these children.
They didn't get anything.
The little children, Russell and Eve, two of them, were told that they were possessed
and that the punishments their own mother gave them were
quote, necessary to repent.
That's not anything I've ever read in the New Testament.
The women regularly tried to indoctrinate the
12-year-old little boy to convince him he was evil and that the abuse was, quote, acts of love.
What more do we know?
This year, they are not going to be visited by Santa. We let them know that Christmas morning, their four older siblings
will be getting Christmas presents to open and that they will have the gift of love from their
dad and I. Okay, let's just examine what we just heard. Donna Kelly joining me, former Utah senior
deputy district attorney. Donna, she says the youngest two, which I believe to be around the ages of six and seven, were unwilling to, quote, repent.
So therefore, while all the other children were visited by Santa, the two little ones were not because they would not, quote, repent.
I didn't make that up.
She said that.
And after you speak, I'm going to need to shrink on this.
Go ahead, Donna Kelly.
And Donna, I know you've seen this, as have I, where one or more children are picked out as the targets.
Although I think all of these children have been abused and mistreated.
Seemingly, one usually is picked out as the most despised and hated. And they're tortured more than
anyone else. These two children, as they watch their sisters and brothers get Christmas morning
surprises, they get nothing. And then there are two children that are bound
with duct tape and ropes and starved. I just want to get my hands around this woman's neck.
Then not only does she do this to her children behind closed doors, she brags about it on a
YouTube channel that has 2.2 million followers. It's just absolutely heartbreaking to listen to her portray herself as the victim.
You know, we told these two children that their dad and I were very sorrowful.
And so she's portraying herself as the victim, which is a very common abuser tactic, you know, gaslighting the victim.
And these are children.
They need to learn by trial and error as they go along.
And the parents need to be responding to them in that way, in a kind and loving way.
And it's just absolutely heartbreaking. I can see why they were charged with severe
emotional harm of these two children in the charging document. They're charged with
not only torture, malnutrition, but also severe emotional harm, which it absolutely is.
To Dr. Dana Anderson, forensic psychologist and consultant,
what do you make of the other children, four of them,
getting all their Christmas gifts from Santa
and these two being left out on Christmas morning?
One of the biggest days, one of the two biggest days in the Christian year,
that being Christmas and Easter.
And they're left out because they wouldn't, quote, repent.
Yeah, she wants to make an example out of them, punish them, humiliate them.
You know, it's all this sort of brainwashing, gaslighting.
On a six-year-old, gaslighting, manipulating, abusing a six-year-old gaslighting manipulating abusing a six-year-old child
and her brother so let me understand something emily ashcroft the six-year-old child that had
food withheld would that be the now 10 year old child left behind in the home starving and tied up
when the 12 year old brother escapes through the window.
That would be that same child.
So this has been going on since the little girl was six and the little boy was eight.
One of the things that Ruby Frankie said after her arrest was that those children weren't fit to be around other children.
And I'm not sure what she means by that, but it seems like it was specific to those two.
Guys, take a listen to our cut 30.
Torturing him, stop it.
I know you're not, but it looks like you are.
Because he's screaming.
Hey, Russell.
I'm only going to say it one more time,
and then you're going to lose the privilege to eat dinner.
Okay, I hear the laughter.
I don't know what's going on. But I also hear you're going to lose the privilege to eat dinner. Okay. I hear the laughter. I don't know what's going on.
But I also hear you're going to lose the privilege of eating dinner.
I hear Ruby Frankie saying that.
Now, the daughter, Sherry, has something to say.
Take a listen to our Cut 20, Fox 13.
Frank's oldest daughter, Sherry Frank, who is 20 years old, posted to her public Instagram today a photo of police with the caption, finally.
She added another story saying, me and my family are so glad justice is being served.
We've been trying to tell the police and CPS for years about this and so glad they finally decided to step up.
Kids are safe, but there's a long road ahead.
Please keep them in your prayers and also respect their privacy. As of now, four children have been taken into custody of Child
and Family Services. Guys, there's another person arrested. Take a listen to our cut 18, Fox 13.
Eight passengers was taken down earlier this year, and that's when Frankie partnered with
Jodi Hildebrandt, a licensed therapist in a channel called Connections, where they gave
parenting and life advice. Here they are pictured in Hildebrandt's home, the same place Frankie's
son escaped from and where her daughter was found being held captive in the basement.
It's heartbreaking. And I think it's heartbreaking for the community that watched this family,
knew that something was wrong. So people watched the family and knew something was wrong and did nothing?
In the last hours, we learn Jody Hildebrandt's sprawling Utah desert mansion
goes on the market for $5 million, including the evil so-called panic room where Ruby Frankie's starving children
were tortured. I hope every penny from the sale of this home goes to these child victims.
We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye, friends.