Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Jilted girlfriend murder suspect jokes about giving victim ‘a nose job’ when she allegedly shot him in the face.

Episode Date: June 16, 2021

An Ohio woman accused of fatally shooting her boyfriend because he was dumping her to go out on a date with a beauty queen. Shayna Hubers claims Ryan Poston was abusive and she was trying to get away from him, although prosecutors argue that shooting him in the face five more times in his body suggests she wanted him dead.Joining Nancy Grace today: Francey Hakes - Former federal prosecutor, Podcast: "Best Case Worst Case", Senior Producer on FOX's America’s Most Wanted, Twitter/Instagram: @franceyhakes, Dr. Angela Arnold - Psychiatrist, Atlanta GA www.angelaarnoldmd.com, Expert in the Treatment of Pregnant/Postpartum Women Joe Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet" featured on "Poisonous Liaisons" on True Crime Network Kristy Mazurek - Emmy Award-winning Investigative Reporter Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. What does an aspiring lawyer up and coming, an adoring girlfriend, and a beauty contestant have in common. Murder is the short answer. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I'm at 12 Meadow Lane, Highland Heights, Kentucky. 41076. 12 Meadow Lane, are you in a house or an apartment there? It's an apartment. It's apartment Suite 10.

Is it Meadow anything else? Meadow View or something? No, 12 Meadow Lane. Me and my children are in the apartment. Okay, okay, okay. Tell me again what unit you're in. It's not showing on my computer. It's 10. I see it's 10. Okay, you're at 12 Middle Lane, unit number 10. Okay, hold on, hold on. What did you kill him with?

A gun, a loaded gun in the house. Tell me where the gun is right now. My gun is in the house. Where at, though, ma'am? Tell me where it's at. I laid it on the bookshelf. Where at? Lay it on a shelf? On the bookshelf. Where are you?

I'm standing about ten feet from a dead body. Okay, you know, I can hardly hold back there. I would just play just that one minute and seven seconds over and over and over for the jury. And I'll tell you why. She's already setting up a defense. I shot my boyfriend in self-defense. Who says that? Who says that?

When you're, quote, 10 feet from the dead body, not Ryan Poston, not my boyfriend, not my lover, not the light of my life. He is now suddenly, quote, the dead body. She knows the address. She knows the location. She knows the zip code. This lady, A, is setting up a defense, giving way too much information for the defense taste, and showing she had already disassociated from the boyfriend she shot dead, and she is by far from insane. If she's crazy, she's crazy like a fox. Again, thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation Series XM 111. Let me introduce you an all-star panel.

First of all, you know her well,ancy hakes former federal prosecutor and get this senior producer on fox's america's most wanted not only that podcast best case worst case dr angela arnold renowned psychiatrist joining us from the atlanta jurisdiction boy do we need a shrink death investigator professor forensics jack Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My Feet. But first, to Emmy Award winning investigative reporter, Christy Mazurek. Whose voice am I hearing? Well, you're hearing the voice of Sheena Hubers, who sounds very distraught after opening fire on her boyfriend, Ryan. Christy Mazurik, I know that you're the Emmy Award-winning investigative reporter, but let me enjoy the moment, the one time I've ever gotten to correct you.

She wasn't upset until she got through her first script. Then I heard a little, and that was about it. You're correct. Okay. She's perfectly calm. Halfway through, then there was a little cry, a little peep, squeal of just being distraught. Guys, how did the whole thing get started? You're hearing the 911 call, but let's back it up. Rewind. Listen to our friends at Crime Online. Ryan Poston, a 28-year-old Ohio attorney, meets Shana Hubers on Facebook. The 19-year-old was friends with Poston's step-cousin, Carissa Carlisle. The pair hit it

off and begin dating. Hubers is studying psychology at the University of Kentucky in Lexington. She graduates cum laude, pursuing a master's degree in school counseling. They date for about 18 months, but the relationship is anything but smooth. The couple reportedly break up several times. The whole breakup to make up, Jackie here in the studio was pointing out that she learned something or observed something in that 911 call. In the first couple of seconds, she says a loaded gun. I shot him with a loaded gun. How does she know it's totally loaded? Loaded means all the bullets are in the cylinders.

I think, uh, how does she know unless she checked it or loaded it herself? But of course I'm putting the cart before the horse. Let's take a listen to more about the relationship. Unsatisfied in his relationship with Hubers, Poston tells a cousin that he plans for a first date with another woman, Miss Ohio, USA, Audrey Bolt. The pair connected on Facebook and had been corresponding for some time. Bolt says she found Poston smart and funny based on her Facebook interactions with him. They begin direct messaging, plans to meet at a Milford, Ohio bar for drinks and maybe to play pool. So that's where the beauty queen comes into this scenario.

Miss Ohio, USA, Audrey Bolt, who has advised that she wants it very clear she was not the dead victim's girlfriend. They were meeting up for a first date. Now, that's certainly coincidental. Is it not to you, Joseph Scott Morgan, professor of forensics? I know you're all about fingerprints and hair fibers and autopsy reports, but I still like the good old hunch, the deduction, the using the gray cells. You want to tell me it's a coinkydink that he's got his first date with Miss Ohio, and then suddenly she shoots him dead? Hell hath no fury.

Yeah. You never get a chance of saying that, do you, Joe Scott? You always pull it out of the mothballs whenever it gets to you. I got to tell you. I got to tell you. Yeah. You're asking for trouble, man. You're asking for trouble.

You're darn right. So don't make me mad and give me an answer. Yeah. Hey, look, it stands to reason that if you're involved with somebody else and you've had a volatile relationship, they're already traumatized over the thing you're saying you want to break it off. And then not only do you just go out and date somebody, you're going to go out and you're going to date a Miss America contestant. Yeah. Wasn't it Miss USA? Oh, I'm sorry. Miss USA. Miss Ohio goes in.

That Miss Ohio goes into Miss USA as opposed to Miss... There's a very subtle but important distinction. And again, it's not a beauty pageant. It's a scholarship. It's a scholarship exercise.

Didn't any of you people see Sandra Bullock in this congeniality for Pete's sake? OK, back to you. Go ahead. Hey, yeah. And so, yeah, this is going to this is listen. Most, you know, Nancy, you and I have worked together a long time. Most of the cases that we involved that are very, very violent. They're not some stranger just coming at you out of a dark alley, are they? Most of these things have some kind of domestic connection many times, particularly those that are just loaded with a lot of violence, which in this particular case, it was. You have passion that's involved in this. You have a lot of anger. And boy, did she take it out on him.

This woman gives an all new meaning to snakes in her head. But since I didn't get the answer I was looking for, or really any answer from Joseph Scott Morgan, let me go to you, Francie Hanks, former federal prosecutor. You know your way around the courtroom. I always say there is no coincidence in criminal law. It's very few and far between. You know what this tells me? She had already broken into his emails, his messaging, possibly his texts. Maybe she was reading them when he was not by his phone, but she knew, I guarantee you, she knew he had a date with Miss Ohio that night.

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, I'm talking about Shana Hubers, then 21 years old and her victim, an up-and-coming lawyer already with a good reputation. Do you think it's a coincidence, Francie Higgs, that he's trying to get ready to go out on this date and up comes Shana Hubers? Of course not. You know, Nancy, on America's Most Wanted, which we both covered, there was a case where the girlfriend

who killed her boyfriend had cloned his phone so that she could intercept and even slow down slow down missy you got to say that very slowly for you know i've just got a jd i didn't get my master's at mit so explain to me and to everybody listening what it means to actually clone someone's phone and let's just say uh that takes a lot of gumption to go that far to clone a phone. I've told you this a hundred times, Francie. I tried to read my husband's email one time and it was so boring. My eyes were bleeding. It was terrible. Never again.

I found out nothing. There was nothing to find out. So I haven't wasted my time doing that again. If you've got, hey, tip. If you've got to clone your boyfriend or girlfriend's phone, you need to break up immediately and date somebody else or go into therapy. 100%. It's so much easier to break up. Tell everybody listening, how do you clone a phone?

This is great, Jackie. Listen. Well, it's super simple, Nancy. All you have to do is go to the Internet and get instructions. There are programs out there that allow you, as long as you have access to the boyfriend or girlfriend's device. I don't want to give the programs away, but it's really easy to find with a quick five-minute search on the Internet where you can assign that phone to your own as if it is your own. You can initiate text messages. You can read the text messages that are coming and going from your significant other's phone. And we covered a case like that on America's Most Wanted.

So it wouldn't shock me to know that Shana had done the same thing or just gotten his phone in the million times she was in his apartment and wouldn't leave and he would go into a different room. I wouldn't be at all surprised if she was monitoring his social media, for example. How hard would it be to get his Facebook password and see that he's communicating with direct messages to Miss Ohio USA? That would not surprise me to learn at all. And as I say in my book, Don't Be a Victim, please beef up your passwords because it was probably shooting a fish in a barrel for this woman who was dead set on spying on her boyfriend, Ryan Poston, up and coming lawyer. He probably used his DOB or his social or his address or some concoction of the two to be maybe his bar ID number to create a password. And he probably used the same password on every device and on every social media site. But I guarantee you, again, let's use our noggins for a moment, that she was spying on him and

it hacked into his accounts. This is why. She hadn't been to his home until the time of the shooting that day that we know of. So he'd be getting ready for a date that night. I don't think she went over there with any other intention, much like Jodi Arias, literally driving across the desert to convince her boyfriend, Travis Alexander, not to go on a trip with another woman, but to take her instead. I think she went there with the intent to talk him out of going on his date, literally with the beauty queen. Okay. Now, you know know the background. Take a listen to more of that very telling 911 call.

Okay, are you sure that he is dead? Yes, he's dead, ma'am. He's completely dead. Okay. And how long ago did you shoot him? I don't know. 15, 10 minutes. Not even that long.

10 or 15 minutes ago? No. Yeah. Okay, what's your name? My name is Shana Michelle Huber. I'm sorry, what is it again? Tell me again. Shana, Shana Michelle Huber. Huber?

Huber, H-U-B-E-R-S, Huber. Okay, what's your name again? Shana or Saina? Shana, S-A-N-A-N-A. All right, Shana, I'm just having a hard time hearing you. Okay, all right. You're going to stay on the line with me, okay? Because this is what we're going to do. The officers don't want me to stay on the line with you. So when they get there, they're going to want to know where that gun is,

and we want you to get out safely too, okay? Okay, are they going to arrest me? I heard a little trill in her voice, something like that, when she was trying to tune up with tears again. You know, Joe Scott Morgan, I know that you're a death investigator and you've been to literally thousands of homicide scenes. But have you ever seen The Wizard of Oz where they call in the coroner? Did you hear her say he's completely dead?

Yeah. And he's most completely dead. Remember how the coroner reads off how the wicked witch. Oh, yeah. Most the east is dead. Oh, and she's, what my point is, she's emphatic, but she's not distraught. Oh, he's dead. He's completely dead. I would not expect that of a girlfriend that had just shot someone she loves, even if it's in self-defense, even if it's an

accident, you would expect emotion, not, oh, he's completely dead. Just the way she said that. Yeah. And you know, when something like this happens, all of the senses are aroused, you know, and you're acutely aware. She's standing there in this smoke, Nancy, that has, you know, she's inhalated this gun smoke. She's in there and she smoke nancy uh that that has you know she's inhalated this gun smoke she's in there and she may have heard sounds that he was making as she shot him as he tumbled to the floor uh the sound itself the the gunshots are still ringing in her ears but yet you know the thing about it is it's not like she experiences this every day it's almost like she's prepared for it and and you don't hear the same level of distress in her voice that you would. You know, I've been on

scenes and I've talked to people that have shot other individuals and sometimes they'll lapse into moments of what we refer to as kind of catatonia, where they're just blanked out and they're staring off into the distance because it's such a shocking event. If I was interviewing her, I'd have a lot of questions because she is not rattled to her core. She has very specific details about all of this, and it rises and falls. And to you, Dr. Angela Arnold, I've got a series of questions for you, but I know that people can, in fact, disassociate with what's happening and have a period of time that they really cannot remember.

That's real. It does happen. But Dr. Angela Arnold, psychiatrist, joining us out of Atlanta, I want you to take a listen to more of this 911 call and tell me what you hear. Listen. Okay, are they going to arrest me? Ma'am, I don't know what they'll do. We're going to send them out. I'm going to stay on line with you, okay? what you hear. Listen. He beat me and tried to carry me out of the house, and I came back in to get my things, and he was right in front of me. And he raced down and grabbed the gun, and I grabbed out of his hand and pulled the trigger.

Okay. All right. Do you need an ambulance? Have you been injured? I'm not injured, ma'am. I was thrown into the side of the couch. Okay. And how old is he? He's 29. He would have been 30 on December the 30th. All right, what's his name? Ryan Carter Poston. He's an attorney in Cincinnati. Okay, and you had a history of domestic violence with him? Yes.

Okay, and is this your gun? No, this is his gun. He keeps loaded guns in the house. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Dr. Angela Arnold, psychiatrist psychiatrist joining us out of Atlanta. I heard so many things, points that would hammer to the jury. He was beating me, but I came back in the house. And also she's not injured. Not injured at all. I've looked at her bookend photos, not injured at all. But why would you go back into the home if your attacker is in the home? And Nancy, don't you think the 911 operator did an amazing job? Yes, I do. The 911 operator was on it, wasn't she?

Oh, man, if you think she's on it, Dr. Angie. She loaded guns in the house. And, I mean, everything was so clear about what she said. Oh, I landed on the couch. That's why I wasn't hurt when he was beating me, I landed on the couch. That's why I wasn't hurt when he was beating me because I landed on the couch. Well, she goes into that explanation. Listen.

So he slammed you into the couch, but you don't have any injuries? I don't have any injuries. I was just very frightened. He's a lot bigger than me. He's 6'3", 200 pounds. I'm 5'8", 120. And he picked me up and was carrying me out of the house.

And I said, let me get my things at least if we're going to break up. And he wouldn't let me get my things. And when I reached around to try to get my things, I can hear hear myself actually in the background, ma'am. It's just a phone system. A phone system has got a delay. And he pushed me down from the door all the way to the couch. And when they come here, they'll see how far that is. He threw me across the room.

And I was very startled. I was laying on the floor. Okay. All right. And I was very startled. I was laying on the floor. Okay. All right. And I killed him. And now we hear a motivation emerging. Did you hear the words break up? Let's go to our cut six.

I'm sorry. You said you shot him a couple more times after that? Yeah. How many times did you shoot him total? I don't know. Okay. Because he was twitching and you knew he was going to die, so you shot him again? And that's to make sure he was dead because he was switching so bad. I don't want to play there and twist.

So you shot him instead of calling 911? Do what? So instead of calling 911, she continues to shoot him? Well, there's more. Listen. And I just picked up the gun. And in the middle of him doing something with his arm or saying something crazy, I shot him. And I thought, oh, my God, what have I done? You know?

And he was laying with his face on the table, like twitching. And so I knew he was going to die a very slow and painful death. I knew he was already dead. You know, within the next 20 seconds. Within the next two minutes, I know he's going to be dead. And he was in a lot of pain. He was twitching, he was moaning.

But he was ultimately dead. And so I shot him enough times to kill him so that he wouldn't suffer. Okay, Francie Hanks, former federal prosecutor, jump in. Yeah, Nancy, I killed him so he wouldn't suffer. I killed him because I thought he was coming at me. I killed him because I was terrified of him. I killed him because he was twitching.

I killed him because I didn't want him to suffer, but he was going to die a slow and painful death. And oh, by the way, I knew we only had about 20 seconds to go. She's all over the place. This is so inconsistent within about a minute and a half, Nancy, that a prosecutor is going to have a field day with this case. And I bet you, like me, would love to be in the courtroom giving closing arguments on this one. Man, you're not kidding. Dr. Angela Arnold, listen to this. At that point, which was a few more times, and I shot him, I think I shot him twice. His body was completely dead. He was laying there still, twitching and making noises. And I shot him in the head. I probably should have left it there. But I knew he was going to die. Mm-hmm. Or have a very deformed face.

And you were concerned. And I knew... Although he would have died, he was already dying. He was already, he was dying. But I just walked around the table and shot him where I knew he would die immediately. In fact, his obsession with guns killed him. You know, I would have never, I'm so Democrat, I would have never touched a gun of business, I have been speechless. And that happened to be when I've recovered.

Don't worry. Chrissy Mazurek reporting on the case. Did you hear that? Oh, I did. That he would have a very deformed face because she shot him in the face. And so she shot him again. Then she goes into her political preferences. Why, Ann Christie?

Again, we were aghast, everybody that was covering this story in Cincinnati when this was unfolding, because her big not only political platform was discussed, but not to go into too many details, she also started berating the victim, saying you just don't understand why I had to shoot him so many times because he was so vain and he just wouldn't die. Isn't it true, Christy Mazurik, that at one point she said, I gave him the nose job he always wanted?

That is absolutely correct. Okay and with that Dr. Angela Arnold you're the psychiatrist. I let you weigh in on that. Oh my god Nancy. I know. It's just it's it's sort of breathtaking isn't it? I wouldn't describe it like that. I mean I say breathtaking like when you look down at the Grand Canyon. It's kind of taken my breath away. I mean, who thinks like this? Right? I'm still back on the part where she kept shooting him.

If she was so scared of him, like you said, just get out of there. If she's such a gun hater, then why did she keep shooting the guy? Well, didn't you hear, quote, his obsession with guns killed him, not me? Oh, yeah. Again, hello, psychopath. Nothing is her fault. Okay? Okay. You know, I've noticed something about you, Dr. Angie. You like to throw me on the term psychopath, but not everybody went to medical school. So could you explain what that is and why you're using the term with Shana Hubers? Psychopath is someone, first of all, it's like a, it's like a heavier form of narcissistic personality disorder.

They have, they have no remorse for things. They don't feel bad. You know, it's amazing that you explain one Latin term with another Latin term. Okay. I'm sorry. Speak English, lady. It's the way my head works. Okay? She thinks about herself. She charms people.

She lies. She manipulates. There's a complete lack of social rules, and she prioritizes her own self-interest. And I have a feeling that throughout this case, that's what they're going to see. They're going to see a prioritization by her of her own self-interest, which is why she starts to attack the dead guy. I thought a psychopath was someone that could not empathize with other people's pain. They have no empathy. I was talking about a lot of other things that they have going on also,

but you are completely correct, Nancy. A psychopath has no empathy. So therefore, they don't see what they're doing do they that is not a sense she is not crazy Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about Shana Hubers. To you, Francie Hakes, former federal prosecutor, now senior producer on Fox's America's Most Wanted and podcast star, best case, worst case podcast. Francie, once I hear sane, everything else is like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because it's not a defense. Either you did or you did not know right from wrong at the time

of the incident. That is the quote, old McNaughton rule, which came from Great Britain. And we Americans brought that jurisprudence, that body of law from Great Britain when we came here. And that is still the test for insanity today. Now, there are some slight derivations, but generally being a psychopath or being drunk or being high on drugs or being narcissistic, none of that rises to insanity as a defense under the law. You're absolutely right, Nancy. In fact, you could be mentally ill and still be legally responsible. And here, even if she has in her retrials, even if she has medical experts get up and say she is insane or she was insane at the time of the crime, the prosecution has very strong arguments to

combat that in her own words on the 911 call. As we've already discussed, all those inconsistencies, that's not because someone is insane. That's someone who's constantly changing her story, trying to find the one that'll work to get her walked out of the jail. And she never found it. And she never will find it. Same thing with Jodi Arias. Remember how many defenses she threw out? First, I wasn't even there. Okay, yes, I was there, but it was self-defense.

Oh, I left out the one about a man and a woman dressed as ninjas came in and killed him and let me live. The defense has changed and changed and changed. Guys, it's just nothing like giving the jury the 911 call in opening statement. If you haven't already had it admitted into evidence correctly pre-trial, then you have to give a different opening statement, then lay the foundation for the 911 call, and then play it pretty quickly for the jury because you really want them to hear this listen i'm not your typical murderer no i'm not the one that you see on the phone

he said you're just a hillbilly from kentucky and i am if i if the hillbilly came out of me, could I take that back? And if it matters now, the worst thing I've ever done in my whole life, And I feel like part of me does it so bad about me. And part of me does, you know what I mean? Like, part of me is like you hit me. You threw me. You just don't treat it well in my head. I guess this is a new defense.

Quote, I guess the hillbilly came out of me. Okay. She also says part of me doesn't feel bad about it. Well, I just had to get to this part of her interrogation. Listen. Please stop it i thought i wanted to hear it but then suddenly i don't she's actually vocalizing she's singing harmony and melody which again shows she's not insane chrissy mizzurich help me this is just hours after she guns down her boyfriend that broke up with her, that she tried to get back with, that didn't want her back, that she shot dead. Help me. Why is she singing Amazing Grace? Well, because I think she's trying to pretend that she's crazy

because moments after that, she's mumbling to herself in that video. She says she can't believe she actually did it. And she's so good at acting. This tape went on for hours, Nancy. This wasn't a short interrogation. And investigators left her inside by herself because they were aghast watching what was going on from another room. and just let the recording continue. Again, it reminds me of Jodi Arias. Remember her standing on her head and doing gymnastics and humming in the police interrogation room? Guys, you know, this is like drinking from the fire hydrant. And I think Francie Hakes and Joe Scott Morgan will agree with me.

An interrogation tape like this, again, few and far between. Now, brace yourself. So many red flags. Take a listen to our friend Tom McGee, WCPO. In the 18 months Shana Hubers and Ryan Poston were together, there was an incredible number of social media messages between them. Highland Heights Police Chief Bill Birkenauer gave jurors a staggering number on Monday. the the phone. He was trying to get a text message from his friend. She was trying to break up or move on. She would send him a 100.

Messages to his one response. Many times you just turn his phone off when it came to Facebook. She Birkenau are testified that hubris got into postage page blocked people and send messages like this. Ha ha.

After you wrote on my Ryan unliked it. BC because he realized that I liked it from his computer while logged on as him. Ha ha ha. Then there were times that Hubers used a friend's phone to send text messages, often using strong language. You're just a horrible attorney. Ha. You lost a client and didn't contest. Wow. Not easy, just stupid. Goodbye. Well, there's nothing to hurt a lawyer like attacking their maneuvers in court. But I think our cut 14, this is reporter Mike Schell at Fox 19, was one of the most disturbing saw the prosecution put forth three women who had contact with Hubers while she was in the Campbell County Detention Center waiting for her first trial to begin. Ms. Nivens, let's just get this out of the way right away. Are you a convicted felon? Yes.

Holly Nivens says Hubers described what happened after she picked up Ryan Poston's gun from the dining room table at his Highland Heights condo. She asked Ryan, she said, what would you do if I pointed the gun at him? What did she say Mr. Poston did? Smirked at her. And what did she do at that point? Walked around the table and shot him. Poston's stepsister left the courtroom in tears

when she heard what Hubers allegedly said about her family. She had said that Ryan's family had a bunch of money and that they could buy a new child. Behind bars awaiting trial, Shana Heber's killer girlfriend says his family's got money. They can buy a new child. Okay, Joe Scott Morgan, the psychological and psychiatric implications aside, isn't it true there was no evidence whatsoever of any physical fight between the two? No, there wasn't. And let me tell you this, I can prove that her alibi, her story, whatever the hell you want to call it, is complete BS. Nancy, when you get into ballistics and firearms, one of the toughest shots to make is what's referred to as a headshot. People at home will just think about the silhouettes.

They see folks at, say, gun ranges. If they've ever seen pictures of it, it's a silhouette. You've got a head, then you've got shoulders and a body. And in defensive training, what they do is they teach you to fire center mass. That means at the center of the body. Okay. The biggest part of the body to score what's referred to as a headshot, particularly with a handgun is very, very difficult. It's a higher order kind of thing. So what that tells me, miss, I'm afraid of handguns and I don't even like handguns. Nancy, from what I understand, she pumped six rounds into this guy. Okay.

Six, one, two, three, four, five, six, including the one where she says that, well, I guess I gave him the nose job he always wanted. You know why she did? Because she, she shot him center mass in the face with a lead core projectile that probably destroyed his face at that moment in time. And then she continued to pump other rounds into him after she had scored a deadly headshot. This is not something like if you're falling backwards, oh my God, I'm falling backwards and I'm landing on the couch safely. And I'm just trying to defend myself. B.S.

You walked up on him. You planned it and you ambushed him. You shot this guy in the face. And then once he was down, you continue to pump rounds into his lifeless body. You know, you have heard us discussing her statements in her 911 call much the way a jury would when they were having jury deliberations. But the reality is this. This young man fought his way through law school. He was an up-and-coming star in the legal community, loved by all, most of all, his family. And now they're the one with the life sentence of life without their beloved son and brother.

Shana Hubers, rot in hell. Nancy Grace, Crime Story, signing off. Goodbye, friend. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.