Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - 'MACK DADDY' Diddy' FORCED TO USE $1 CANS OF FISH AS JAIL CURRENCY, DEMANDS TRIAL DELAY

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

  Just a month before the start of his trial, Sean "Diddy" Combs faces a third indictment. The new document adds two counts: sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion, and transportation to en...gage in prostitution. The additional charges focus on “Victim-2,” who prosecutors say Combs recruited, harbored, and transported for coerced commercial sex acts between 2021 and 2024. If convicted, the charges could result in more jail time. Combs pleads not guilty. His legal team argues the allegations are not new and involve the same accusers—former long-term girlfriends who, they say, had consensual sexual relationships with Combs. He insists the encounters prosecutors call “Freak Offs” were mutual decisions between romantic partners to invite others into their relationship. Combs claims the tapes prosecutors plan to introduce as evidence will show all parties as willing participants. Prosecutors say “Victim-1,” also known as Cassie Ventura, plans to testify under her real name. They have asked Judge Arun Subramanian to allow witnesses 2, 3, and 4 to remain anonymous. They argue that revealing their names could lead to significant embarrassment, anxiety, social stigma, and media harassment. The witnesses are also concerned their testimony may affect personal relationships and future job prospects. What else is going on with Diddy? Tune into Crime Stories for updates. Joining Nancy Grace today: Eric Faddis - Partner at Varner Faddis Elite Legal, Former Felony Prosecutor and Current Criminal Defense and Civil Litigation Attorney; Instagram: @e_fad @varnerfaddis; TikTok: @varnerfaddis Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author of "Deal Breaker,” and featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive Chris McDonough - Director At the Cold Case Foundation, Former Homicide Detective, & Host of YouTube Channel, "The Interview Room" Dr. DeWayne Hendrix - Former Associate Warden at the MDC in Brooklyn, and former Senior Warden with the US Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons, Founder and President of A New Daylight Foundation, Author: "Who Are You?  See it Say it and Seize it;" @anewdaylight (IG), @drdewaynehendrix (LinkedIn)  @anewdaylight (X-Twitter) Dr. Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco - Executive Director of Freedom Light, Human Trafficking Expert Witness, Author of “Hidden in Plain Sight: America’s Slaves of the New Millennium;" X: @MehlmanOrozco Kayla Brantley - Reporter-At-Large for DailyMail.com, Host of Daily Mail’s podcast, 'The Trial of Diddy;" X: @_KaylaBrantley, Instagram: @KaylaBrantley Sydney Sumner - CrimeOnline Investigative Reporter See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. MacDaddy. Yeah, you heard me right. Sean Combs, a.k.a. Diddy, now humiliated as he is forced to use $1 cans of mackerel fish as jail currency. What happened to the private jets, the private chef, all of those minions at his beck and call? He is dealing in mackerel.
Starting point is 00:00:42 This in a bombshell bid for a trial delay. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. Jailed rapper and musician Sean Puffy Combs hit with more charges amidst a federal sex trafficking case that alleges the musician used his power and status in the music industry to coerce unknowing victims. I wouldn't put it past the feds at this juncture. There is now a third superseding indictment to add more charges
Starting point is 00:01:14 because we are learning more about an alleged shooting that went down in a studio. But first, can we get to the canned mackerel? What? Okay, listen to this. Inmate 37452-054, otherwise known as Sean Diddy Combs, will be housed in 4 North at the Metropolitan Detention Center for at least 48 more days if his trial begins on time. Combs has spent most of his time in the unit's visiting room with his lawyers or the video call room with his laptop that cannot access the internet to work through the mountain of evidence that prosecutors have turned over. Combs' exorbitant monetary value hasn't gotten him anywhere behind bars, forced to use a more humiliating currency. Instead of cash, inmates trade packets of mackerel, known as macks, on sale at the commissary for $1 each.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Boo-hoo. Poor Diddy. All those millions and millions, some people say a billion, dollars of net worth, and he's trading cans of mackerel for favors behind bars. Got an all-star panel lined up, but first, straight out to crime stories, investigative reporter, Sidney Sumner. Sidney, canned mackerel? What?
Starting point is 00:02:33 I mean, Nancy, that's the only form of currency that they can come up with behind bars at the Metropolitan Detention Center. So there's obviously no exchange of cash. And from what we've heard before, we know that the commissary is pretty strict. They don't really allow you to stockpile things. You can only spend $ in the commissary. So if you needed something that would have cost five dollars, but they wouldn't let you buy it from commissary, you can hand me five packets of mackerel instead. Okay, so Sean Combs is now a Mac dealer. Apparently, Nancy. Okay, first, Sydney, let me correct you. It's a subtle but important distinction. Mackerel is not tuna. But that said, the gist of your reporting is correct.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Now joining me, a special guest, Dr. Dwayne Hendricks, former associate warden, MDC in Brooklyn, former senior warden with the U.S. Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons, founder, president, a New Daylight Foundation author of Who Are You? See It? Say It? Seize It? And you can find him at NewDaylightFoundation.com, Dr. Dwayne Hendricks. So Sean Combs is now a Mac dealer. Did you realize that the humiliation he must be going through, all those millions, all those designers' clothes, drenched in jewelry, dope chains around his neck that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and now he's shuffling cans of mackerel? Really?
Starting point is 00:04:18 Did you know about the black market currency of dealing in mack behind bars? Well, as they say in prison, commissary is currency. And a lot of those individuals, once they immerse themselves in the jail or prison culture, they use commissary to pay off debts, to get favors. I know they were early reporting when he first got there, the inmates were doing his laundry for him. So they use those items. What? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. When he first got there, the inmates were doing his laundry for him. So they use those items.
Starting point is 00:04:45 What? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. OK. Dr. Bethany Marshall. Hold on. Hendricks, don't move. Joining me now on Psychoanalyst out of Beverly Hills. Joining us, Dr. Bethany Marshall at DrBethanyMarshall.com.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Author of Deal Breaker. You can see her now on Peacock. Dr. Bethany, did you hear what he just said? Wherever, hand and foot, surrounded by a phalanx of, as I said, minions. Now he's got minions making up his bed and cleaning. How hard is it to pull one blanket up? You got to get another inmate to do that for you. I know this means something, but what? Okay, Nancy, I guess P. Diddy needs staff. Right. Seriously, I've compared his culture of sex trafficking to a cult where he's always the leader and the benefits flow towards him. And I think he's creating that same culture in behind bars. they would take Jolly Rancher candies. They would melt them down in the microwave and use them as dildos. They would sell them. They would pass them around as some kind of favor. So, you know, he did. He had billions before. Now he has cans of mackerel. He's going to use whatever he has. Okay, I'm just trying to take everything you just said with a box of salt.
Starting point is 00:06:30 What is happening with Diddy Behind Bars? This as he makes a bombshell bid for a trial delay. Eric Faddis joining me, renowned attorney joining us, founding partner, Varner Faddis, elite, legal, Eric Faddis. Delay, delay, delay. But what about the mighty brought so low? The fact that Sean Combs is now dealing in cans of mackerel behind bars. But the significance of this is not just the fish in a can.
Starting point is 00:07:03 It's trading it for what? What is he trading it for? Is someone going to testify for him? Is there a deal in the works of some sort? Because we know from, especially from a recent New York Times article, his life behind bars is monotonous. Bed checks, mackerel, his digs have been upgraded. We found out about that. But this is a time for him to focus on his trial. What do you make of the request for a delay? Yeah, Nancy, well, luckily there's no crime against possession with the intent to distribute mackerel, so he won't be receiving an added charge on that. Hey, look, delay is a common tactic on behalf of the defense. What they're arguing is that there were some messages and information regarding one of the alleged victims that was not turned over and that they need more time to go through that.
Starting point is 00:07:59 They're claiming that there were like 200,000 items that were not turned over from the prosecution. And so defense is going to use that by saying, hey, we're being ambushed. We're being bombarded. We have no time to prepare for this. We need some more time, Judge. I would not be surprised if a motion to continue trial comes up. Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:08:16 No time. Kayla Brantley, joining me, investigative reporter with DailyMail.com and star of the Trial of Dedy podcast. Kayla, don't you remember at the get-go how Sean Combs was railing about going to jail and how he can't wait to get in court to prove his innocence? But now we hear they're wanting a delay. Yeah, Nancy. Well, Diddy has been behind bars since September. That's eight months now, and he still has a little bit less than a month to go. So one would think that he would try to get into court, plead his innocence. But when you think about it, eight months for all of the evidence that they go through, for all the witnesses
Starting point is 00:08:57 that his team has to collect and all that there is to prepare, eight months really hasn't been that much time to bring forth a solid case. While Diddy is poring over documents and trading Mac behind bars, we learned that he's actually gotten an upgrade at the MDC. That's right. Diddy got an upgrade. Listen. While the public has been led to believe Sean Diddy Combs is languishing in a tiny cell at the MDC, it turns out the disgraced mogul is having a blast behind bars. Public has been led to believe Sean Diddy Combs is languishing in a tiny cell at the MBC. It turns out the disgraced mogul is having a blast behind bars. Combs has been moved to the lowest security unit in the prison, 4 North, where he has access to a tablet, cards, music, TV, movies, ping pong, air hockey, and even a peep show.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Who needs expensive freak-offs when you can spy on female inmates through a grate in the floor. Speaking of expensive freak off parties, parties for him, not for the women that were allegedly raped. All on video. We understand that video is going to be introduced at the trial. I'm going to get to that first. My head is spinning because I just heard basketball, ping pong. I happen to know that there are yoga classes. What? I mean, hey, Dr. Dwayne Hendricks, what kind of spa are you running? Yoga, basketball, ping pong, a laptop. What? He's now in the four north dorm style living. What?
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yoga? Yes. He's over in the East building. There's a million square feet of space over at the MDC. And there's an East and West building. And typically. Let me just drink that in. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Did you say a million square feet of space? Hold on. Let me throw something at you. Microwaves. Exercise balls. Hold on. Let me throw something at you. Microwaves, exercise balls, exercise mats, movies, music that you pick, your individual selection, tablets, what, lasagna night, pasta fazool, radios, watches in the commissary. I mean, this is my handwriting. I'm sure I wrote it, but can that be correct?
Starting point is 00:11:09 All is correct except for the microwaves. They took the microwaves out back in 2012. The inmates do have access to hot water at a temperature of about 180 degrees so they can warm up packets of rice or other noodles. Why did they take the microwave away? Were they heating up liquid and throwing it on each other? They're such a fun bunch. Cooking, you know, you can imagine if you guys get very creative, cook all types of things. I'm sure. So we took the microwaves back in 2012 for security reasons. But yet they do have access to hot water. But yes, he is placed in... Hendrix, how can you look at me with a straight face and say the microwaves were
Starting point is 00:11:48 taken away because of their creative cooking? And you can imagine, you mean like cooking up a Molotov? What? Why were the microwaves taken away? Now try to tell the truth. I'm telling the truth because they were cooking and then taking parts off the microwave, making shakes and other things. So we just took them out. Okay. I can only imagine what they were cooking up. Let's see. Microwave exercise balls, floor mats, movies, music, tablets for purchase. I had no idea that you can buy radios and watches at the MDC commissary. True? false? True. And you can buy music. You can download music through the commissary
Starting point is 00:12:27 and there's several thousands of songs that you can download onto your particular radio for your listening. Isn't this supposed to be jail? Well, I mean, you got to have, they have to have something to monitor their time, especially in a jail situation where they're not really taking re-entry programs
Starting point is 00:12:43 and different things of that nature. So these things are there. You know what? To Dr. Kimberly Melman-Orozco, joining us, executive director, freedom, light, and human trafficking expert, witness, author of Hidden in Plain, Sight America Slaves of the New Millennium. Dr. Kimberly, I wonder how the alleged rape victims, and this goes back 20 years. That's why we've got a third superseding indictment. These indictments are multi-count all the women that claim that they were drugged, stripped and raped on video where guys would pose their limbs to be raped on video. Wonder how they feel about the exercise balls, the exercise mats, the yoga, the basketball,
Starting point is 00:13:40 the laptop, lasagna night. How do you think they feel about Diddy kicked back watching his favorite movie right now? I think that it's certainly an area of concern. I think when you expect punishment, when you expect penance, when you expect incarceration, you expect to see a lot of the freedoms and luxuries of life taken away. And I think to some extent that has happened. But I think that when you're hearing that they're engaging in other forms of currency and downloading music and having leisurely exchanges with each other, it is an area of concern. And I think it would be disconcerting to his alleged victims. crime stories with nancy grace
Starting point is 00:14:27 kella brantley joining me dailymail.com investigative reporter and star of the trial of diddy kella you and i were talking just yesterday about the very likely trial delay at Sean Combs' request. But can I get you to focus in, hone in on Diddy's upgrade behind bars? Yoga mats? Exercise balls? Lasagna night? When did this happen? Nancy, while it might sound like Diddy's having a great time with, you know, the yoga mats
Starting point is 00:15:02 and the exercise balls and the movies. If you look at these pictures that are on the screen right now, this is Diddy in the club holding up an expensive bottle of tequila. Diddy with the crown on his head as if he's a king of the castle, you know, him with shots right there. He is a far cry from where he was. So while it might sound like, you know, it's bad when you're going from living in the lap of luxury to a eight by 10 cell, that's a big difference. So I'm sure he's not having the greatest time of all behind bars. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Hold on. Kayla Brantley. Wait a minute. I don't think you're completely familiar with the new housing situation Diddy is enjoying. It's more of a dorm style. Listen. Combs is now housed in a dorm style unit of the MDC reserved for up to 20
Starting point is 00:15:54 high profile prisoners. Four North is known to have looser rules than Gen Pop and boasts marginally better meals than what Combs was receiving on suicide watch, including chicken sandwiches, hot dogs, and wings. In addition to many forms of entertainment, Combs is allowed 300 minutes of phone time each month, but still does not get a pillow for his less than twin-sized bed. Chicken sandwiches, hot dogs, wings, 300 minutes of phone time. What is a dorm style situation. He's not sitting in an 8x11 jail cell. He has definitely gotten an upgrade. I mean, I don't get lasagna night. No, I agree. I think he definitely has gotten an upgrade. That's for sure. But he's not in a five-star hotel. He's not in the mansions that he's used to. He's not having his butlers get him cheesecake at 3 a.m. And he's certainly not having caviar or filet mignon.
Starting point is 00:16:51 So while it is an upgrade, it's still not to the level and the status that he's accustomed to. So he still is definitely in some type of detention. While for a lot of us normal people, it might seem not that bad, for him coming us normal people, it might seem, you know, not that bad, for him coming from his status, it is a huge change. Sean Combs pleads not guilty to additional charges brought forth in his federal sex
Starting point is 00:17:15 trafficking case as his trial looms ahead. This, as we learn, not only does Sean Combs want a big delay, that's the defense attorney's best friend, but we are learning that the free cough video videos will very likely be brought into evidence by the state. Listen. Sean Combs pleads not guilty to the new charges. His legal team contending the allegations are not new. His defense claims the accusers remain the same, former long-term girlfriends who engaged in a consensual sexual relationship with the rapper. Combs insists the escapades that prosecutors refer to as freak-offs were not coerced commercial acts, but joint decisions between romantic partners to bring other partners
Starting point is 00:18:02 into their bed. Combs claims the freak-off tapes prosecutors plan to submit as evidence will clearly show all parties are active and eager participants. Straight out to Chris McDonough joining me, director of Cold Case Foundation, former homicide detective, star of The Interview Room on YouTube, where I found him. But for my purposes right now, he was also a vice investigator. Chris McDonough, this is the oldest defense in the book. Quote, she asked for it. That's their defense with all those high powered lawyers. And they've just added, I believe, Mark Geragos and Brian Steele, both with whom I am familiar. That said, same old, same old, same old, same old. She asked for it.
Starting point is 00:18:47 It's consensual. Yeah. How many times have we heard this right, Nancy, and in all the years that you've been doing this? I mean, of course it is right. I mean, you always fly in other sex workers from around the United States for a consensual contact. I mean, this is absolutely, you know, classic. It's right in line with his personality. And, you know, if all goes right, those watches are going to come in handy because he's going to be able to watch that time for quite some time. Well put. Guys, get this, Dr. Bethany Marshall.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Listen to this analysis. Sean Combs is going to have to say with a straight face to a jury as they are watching a freak off video, which has been purported to be women who have been doped, naked, covered in baby oil with guys positioning their limbs to get a better angle as they are being raped. That's what we've been told. Maybe it's completely wrong, but if it is wrong, why is the state trying to introduce it? But listen to this, Dr. Bethany. The defense is these women were all his girlfriends, some of them long term who engaged in consensual sex with the rapper. Wait a minute. Does that include Cassie Ventura? We got a little peek into their quote,
Starting point is 00:20:15 consensual relationship. Here she is walking barefoot down a hotel hallway, a corridor. Oh, look who's coming. It's Sean Combs. And he is actually chasing her in nothing but a towel. Not what I want to open my door at the hotel and see. That doesn't look consensual to me, Dr. Bethany. I hope you're watching. Look at this. Grabbing her stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yeah, she's not going anywhere. And she just lays there and plays dead as a defense. And he literally drags her off by her neck. Now, according to what we've been told, Cassie Ventura was trying to get away from one of these freak offs that he was having in his hotel room. Now it's not over yet. There he goes stomping off like a spoiled brat. It's not over. Go ahead. Think it through. There you go. Oh, ow.
Starting point is 00:21:11 There goes $2,000 of a vase. So is this an example? Oh, guys, that's from our friends at CNN. I'd like to report the defense is arguing that CNN doctored that. Oh, okay. Try that with a jury. Just like your claim that this encounter, well, actually, it was an aggravated assault with feet and fist, was consensual. OK, hit me, Dr. Bethany. Consensual, my rear end.
Starting point is 00:21:35 OK, Nancy, I call this the swinger defense. He's going to say that he and his female partners were swingers, meaning that they consensually brought in other couples or other individuals who were also swingers. But this does not meet criteria for this sexual subculture. In swingers culture, usually if there's a heterosexual couple, they will bring in one or two women. They do not bring in other men. So if there was an expert on the stand, and there are certainly experts in my field who work with groups of people who are all in sexual configurations, maybe multiple partners, they would say that this not only does sex traffic workers not meet criteria, but the very configuration of how they're throwing these parties doesn't meet criteria.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Also, the aggression towards Cassie Ventura in swinger communities, everybody is very harmonious. They're there because they want to be there. Diddy's lawyers want potential jurors questioned about their willingness to watch sensitive content in a move some experts speculate could mean the infamous freak off videos will be shown to the jury at trial. Eric Faddis, I'm sure you, like me, have conducted many, many voir d'oeuvres. In fact, I don't have any nightmares about trying cases. That's where I'm the happiest, like a bird out of a cage. I feel better trying a case than being out of the courtroom. But that said, I do have one recurring nightmare and it is the impaneling questions. When you first strike a
Starting point is 00:23:21 jury, you ask the jury four or five impaneling questions. And if any of them raise their hand, they can't be on the jury, such as, are you a resident of, in my case, Fulton County, inner city Atlanta? And if they are not, then they're immediately off the jury. There's several impaneling questions. And in this bad dream, I always stand up and I can't find and can't remember the impaling questions and we have to break. OK, that's my big nightmare. That said, have you ever, ever encountered a request to conduct a jury selection without talking to the jurors? I haven't seen something go that far. I've certainly seen juror questionnaires and I've been involved in cases
Starting point is 00:24:04 that have them. You know, part of the purpose, according to the defense, is to— Well, of course there's juror questionnaires, for Pete's sake. There's always juror questionnaires. But they want to conduct voidaille, or jury selection, in writing. No. It seems like a misfire to me because you need the jurors to expound upon their answers. Sometimes a juror put, you know, one two word answer.
Starting point is 00:24:27 You're going to know what that means. You want to ask them. You want to see their demeanor. You want to see, you know, when you're talking about freak offs and sex videos, you want to see who is aghast at that. Because those folks, from a defense perspective, are folks you don't want on the jury. And so just written questionnaire seems a little too sterile, a little too neutral. I think there needs to be some interpersonal communication with these jurors to learn precisely how they feel. You know, Dr. Bethany Marshall, it's because of the freak-off tapes. The defense is worried, obviously. They're so worried about the freak-off tapes that they're
Starting point is 00:25:02 trying to specifically select jurors that won't be upset when they see whatever's on those tapes. But jurors who won't be upset are jurors who are acculturated to those kinds of situations. Maybe they've gone to those kinds of parties or they think that, you know, this kind of sexual activity is okay. So those kinds of jurors are likely not to find P. Diddy guilty. Okay, I understand where you're coming from, but I don't know how that's really going to play out once they see these videos. And I have reason to believe that more than one free cough tape will be presented at trial. I mean, Sidney Sumner, you and I remember when the raid went down, there were boxes and boxes and bags and bags of video,
Starting point is 00:25:46 video equipment, a thousand balls of baby oil and more taken out of the home, the mansion. That tells me there's a lot of video, Sidney. I would completely agree, Nancy. There's got to be hundreds of tapes, at least. I mean, Tony Busby claims he had 120 victims. That's just a ballpark number. And we know that these superseding indictments also expanded the years that prosecutors claim this behavior went on. And just think about it. So the defense is looking for men and women that won't get upset when they see whatever is in those freak off tapes. It's happening. The tapes are coming into evidence.
Starting point is 00:26:32 There's a lot of legal hoops you have to jump through to get in video evidence. And you'd be totally bored if Faddis and I talked about that. So I will move on to the fact that the defense wants to select the jury through writing. OK, that's not happening. Forget about it. But Sean Combs is, quote, lawyering up. Listen, Sean Diddy Combs is making final adjustments to his defense team ahead of the trial. After Anthony Rico's sudden exit from the team, Combs is reportedly moving to add celebrity attorney Mark Garagos, who has previously represented Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, Colin Kaepernick, Jussie Smollett.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Garagos' daughter, Tenny, is already part of the team, and Garagos has reportedly been advising on the case, but he may take more of a lead role in the courtroom. Combs is reportedly also searching for a black woman willing to represent him, possibly looking to diversify, as some of his previous arguments call the government's case racist. OK, now we're hearing, Sidney Sumner, that in the last 24 hours that Sean Combs has added an Atlanta lawyer that I know fairly well, Brian Steele. Now, let me just give you my off the cuff reaction. When I would see Steele coming down the courthouse hall at me to work a deal, or we'd go to set up for trial, it wasn't revulsion. Okay. He is a great lawyer. He's likable. He has a really good way with a jury. I could see him and Garagos both, frankly, adding a lot to the defense team. Still did not just fall off
Starting point is 00:28:18 the turnip truck. And of course, neither did Mark Garagos. So what's the thinking? I mean, what do we know about this very recent decision? He's already got a fleet of lawyers. So why is he adding Geragos and Steele? Nancy, I think Diddy just wants every single person in his corner that he can get. Anyone who has defended a similar case, he wants in his corner. He wants as many heads as possible working on how to make that outcome not guilty. Well, you know, this is after one lawyer voluntarily left Diddy's defense. Just ahead of his sex trafficking and racketeering trial, Anthony Rico, one of Combs' high-powered
Starting point is 00:29:02 defense attorneys, has suddenly quit the case. Rico filed a brief motion asking to be relieved of his duties, saying, Rico gives little context to the statement in the filing to protect attorney-client privilege, but the withdrawal seems to come with approval from lead attorney Mark Agnifillo. Rico promises his recusal will not delay trial or leave Combs high and dry, with five other attorneys still actively working on the case. Hunter Biden and Michael Jackson's former lawyer Mark Garos, is rumored to take up the task of defending Diddy in his upcoming federal sex trafficking trial. Will he be successful? In addition to what we believe will be damning freak off videos.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And let me tell you, it's not just one of them. Judging by what was taken out of Sean Combs's mansion, video equipment, videos, videos, videos, baby oil, you name it. I'm anticipating a lot of videos being produced at trial by the state, which is telling. But now more violence rears its ugly head as a damning claim against Diddy. Listen. New details from an LAPD police report show neither Sean or Justin Combs were questioned in relation to a 2022 shooting that Rodney Jones claimed happened inside Chalice Studios at the father and son's hands. The report claims surveillance video captured the victim being shot by Rudolph Flowers as he got into his car parked a half block from
Starting point is 00:30:40 Chalice. The victim then ran back to Chalice for help and was found by officers sitting in a black folding chair outside. Jones' attorney, Tyrone Blackburn, says the police report reflects the story Sean Combs instructed everyone to tell and points out the report makes no mention of muzzle flashes in the video. Blackburn claims he has several witnesses
Starting point is 00:31:00 to confirm Jones' version of events but has not revealed their identities. Guys, you saw a commode totally covered in blood. That's the incident we're talking about. Why was it Sean Combs questioned following this incident? And why do we care about this incident? Because it goes hand in hand to prove that guns and weapons may have been used as a threat on the Freak Off victims. We hear the same thing over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Specifically, listen. Record producer Rodney Lilrod Jones claims Sean Combs sexually harassed, drugged, and threatened him in a previous lawsuit. But now Jones says Combs and his son are involved in a shooting at an L.A. recording studio, Chalice. But Combs had the story changed to where the shooting occurred blocks away from the studio. Jones claims Combs' son Justin and a friend known only as G got into a beef in the bathroom. A shot is fired and Sean Combs and his son Justin come out of the bathroom, leaving G to bleed all over the floor. Jones claims he takes G to a waiting ambulance
Starting point is 00:31:58 and he's taken to the hospital. Police reports indicate the shooting took place blocks away from the studio. The significance of this prior shooting incident cannot be underestimated. We have scores of photos of the shooting scene afterwards. But for some reason, Sean Combs was never questioned. And then somehow the story changed to where the shooting occurred, but we have the pictures of the blood and it goes hand in hand with the story that the victim was propped up on a commode and EMTs were called. Look at it. How can that have happened at another location where the photos prove it happened there? Why would Sean Combs lie about it? This goes hand in hand with multiple shooting incidents. Listen.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Investigators may also be taking a second look into the 1999 Club New York shooting based on allegations in Rodney Jones' lawsuit that Combs bragged about bribing witnesses and jurors at trial, sharing that he pulled the trigger that night, not Jamal Shine Barrow. Barrow served nearly nine years in prison for opening fire and injuring three during an altercation with another club goer while celebrating a new record deal with Combs and his girlfriend at the time, Jennifer Lopez. The lawsuit alleges Combs shared that Lopez carried the gun and passed it to him during the altercation. Victim Natanya Rubin has also long insisted that Combs shot her, not Barrow. Lopez was never charged in the shooting, and Combs was acquitted of four counts criminal possession of a weapon and bribery.
Starting point is 00:33:30 If these allegations are brought in a similar transactions, Jennifer Lopez may be dragged to this, dragged into this trial. After all, the significance cannot be underestimated. Let me say it again. Introducing violence like this on these victims. And of course, in addition to the J-Lo incident, how can we complete the conversation without mentioning the late, the great Tupac Shakur? Dwayne Keefe D. Davis claims credit for Tupac's murder on BET and in his memoir. He says Puffy Combs wanted Knight and Tupac's heads after their diss track hit him up. When Davis offers to carry out the hits, Combs agrees to pay him $1 million. Eric Faddis, gunshots, gunshot wounds, shootouts, one victim after the next. Tupac Shakur is dead.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Then you have the shooting at the studio where we just showed the pictures that corroborate what the victim said, being propped up on a commode as he was bleeding out. He lived, by the way, to tell the tale, but nobody's listening. Now you have more threats by gun. Eric, this is very serious. Forget about the mackerel and the upgrade at the MDC. I'm very surprised that there isn't a fourth superseding indictment on gun and gunshot charges. It wouldn't be unusual when you look at the federal RICO charge itself. One thing it alleges is a pattern of conduct in which he uses his resources and affiliates and
Starting point is 00:35:11 sometimes violence to manipulate the legal system, to intimidate witnesses, to tamper with evidence. And so these allegations regarding these shootings go hand in hand with that, that he is using that style of manipulation. And that is his approach. That's his strategy to try to keep himself out of trouble. And so it wouldn't be unusual for the prosecution to try to bring up those things as either similar transactions or as additional charge defenses. Jailed rapper and musician Sean Puffy Combs hit with more charges amidst a federal sex trafficking case that alleges the musician used his power and status in the music industry to coerce unknowing victims. This as we learn that the Sean Combs defense team has subpoenaed and demanding access to raw, unedited interviews and materials from the investigation discovery documentary,
Starting point is 00:36:07 The Fall of Diddy. And I think I know why. Listen. Combs' legal team is demanding access to the raw, unedited interview and materials from the investigation discovery documentary, The Fall of Diddy. The defense is also asking for any notes or journals sent to the series producers and records of any payments that may have been made to two specific interviewees. Combs' former chef referred to as Individual A and Individual B, a former girlfriend. The chef spoke out about how Combs treated her, as well as rumors she heard about Combs' behavior, while his ex-girlfriend discussed their relationship, including an alleged incident of sexual assault. Legal reps for parent company Warner Brothers are asking the New York judge to squash the subpoena, citing reporter's privilege. Sydney Sumner, investigative reporter. I'll tell
Starting point is 00:36:56 you why I think that Sean Combs' defense team wants all the outtakes to that particular documentary and probably others similar to it. They want to see what landed on the cutting room floor. They want to see if there's anything that was edited out that they can use to cross-examine these potential witnesses. I think that's what they're after. Most definitely, Nancy. They're looking for anything exculpatory, anything that is contrary to what the general narrative is. They want to make Combs not look like this monster, but a fodder figure with a weird sex life. All of this is brewing as the state suffers a blow. Now, it may not seem like a blow to you, but it is a blow. Now, it may not seem like a blow to you, but it is a blow. A major claim against
Starting point is 00:37:49 Sean Combs' colleague and longtime friend Jay-Z has been dropped amid a lot, a lot of controversy. I want you to hear Jane Doe. Now, this is a client that Tony Busby, who was going up against Jay-Z. This was one of his clients, Busby's clients. Listen to her caught on the phone with Jay-Z's private investigator. He was just there, but he didn't have anything to do with any sexual acts towards you. It was strictly, yeah. He was the one who kind of pushed me towards going forward with him. With Jay-Z? Busby did?
Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah. Do you know why? No. That secretly recorded conversation is from our friends at ABC. Sidney Sumner, that was a major blow because if it is suggested that Tony Buzzi fabricated a case against Jay-Z, you see where I'm going with this?
Starting point is 00:38:55 It's going to be alleged he fabricated cases against Sean Combs. That's where that is headed. That is why a victory for Jay-Z, I mean, that whole case was dismissed. And Jay-Z said from the get-go, that didn't happen. Now, if Busby is somehow discredited, his other claims can be discredited, too. Claims against Sean Combs, including potential victims in the criminal case.
Starting point is 00:39:23 See? Yes, this could be potentially devastating for all of the victims that Busby claims to represent. And that's exactly what Jay-Z is accusing him of in this defamation lawsuit. Jay-Z says Busby made the whole thing up. He pushed his client to do this. But an important distinction,
Starting point is 00:39:42 the victim, Jane Doe, who is on that recording saying those things, has now come back and said, you know, I was terrified when these PIs showed up on my doorstep. I said whatever I thought they wanted me to say so that they would leave me alone because she filed this anonymously. Her name is Jane Doe. That's all we know about this victim. And she has done a few public anonymous interviews, but she does not want her name out there. So the fact that these two PIs showed up on her doorstep unannounced was terrifying for her. Is it the beginning? Is it the first domino and a whole series of dominoes to fall for the state? I don't think so, but it does present a problem. We wait as justice unfolds, and now we remember
Starting point is 00:40:33 an American hero, Police Officer Eddie Mundo, Jr., LaGrange Police, Kentucky, killed in the line of duty. A U.S. Marine Corps vet survived by grieving wife Brandy and son Julian. American hero, Officer Eddie Mundo, Jr. Nancy Grace signing off. Goodbye, friend. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.

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