Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Man with knuckles-tatoo spotted in Jessica Vanzant Dietzel, 21, disappearance video

Episode Date: April 22, 2020

A 21-year-old Georgia mother has been missing for over two months and her family is worried something terrible happened to her. Jessica Vanzant Dietzel, who had been living in Leesburg, Georgia, was last in contact with her family in mid-February. Now, surveillance video has emerged showing Dietzel entering a convenience store. What happened to Jessica Vanzant Dietzel? Joining Nancy today: Kristina Johnson - Mother of Jessica Dietzel Danny Alday - Lee County, Georgia, Sheriff's Department Investigator Sheryl McCollum - Forensics Expert & Cold Case Investigative Research Institute Founder Dr Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Beverly Hills, www.drbethanymarshall.com Bobby Poitevint -WALD Albany Ga News Reporter Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The very words, last seen on grainy surveillance video, sends a chill down my spine. Can you imagine a mother's fear when that is what she learns about her girl? And I am talking about 21 year old Jessica. You may not have heard her name, but you will hear it now. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM 111, the Triumph Channel. When I heard about this case, I knew we had to cover it because this mom is beside herself. And when you get to know Jessica, yourself, you'll feel the same way. But first of all, I want you to take a listen to our friend

Dave Mack at CrimeOnline.com. Jessica Diane Van Zandietzel was last seen on surveillance video at an Albany, Georgia area gas station. The last communication, however, was made through messenger. Christina Johnson and her daughter messaged about a week before she disappeared, but with no answer to her follow-up messages, Johnson reported the 21-year-old missing on March 1st. The Lee County Sheriff's Office says the time frame Dietzel went missing is likely between February 16th and March 1st. Police information is that the young mom intended to visit someone

living in a tent near Radium Springs Road. Officers went there and interviewed several people, but have not found Jessica. Where is Jessica? Again, I'm Nancy Grace. This is Fox Nation and Sirius XM 111. Thank you for being with us with me and all star panel to break it down and put it back together again and shed light on what has become of Jessica Van Zandt. Where is she? Police convinced she is in danger with me. Investigator Danny Alday joining me from the Lee County Sheriff's Department. Cheryl McCollum, you know her well, founder of the Cold Case Research Institute. Dr. Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst to the stars, joining me out of Beverly Hills. You can find her at drbethanymarshall.com. Bobby Poitevent joining me from WALD Albany, news reporter, but first to a special guest joining me,

Christina Johnson. This is Jessica's mother. Ms. Johnson, thank you for being with us. My first question to you is, when you first heard the words surveillance video, that would scare me so much to think the last time my daughter has been seen alive is on surveillance video. Do you remember when they first told you that? Yes. surveillance video. Do you remember when they first told you that? Yes, actually, I watched it on the live PD. Really? Yeah. And then what did you observe? Seeing my child walk in that store and that's the last time she's been seen by anybody or you know in anywhere my heart dropped to my stomach watching it is killing miss Johnson when you were watching her on the surveillance video did she seem to be concerned was she acting like herself was there anything unusual about her appearance? You know, no, I didn't notice anything unusual.

She just, you know, just walked, casually walked in the store. I watched it over and over. Yeah, she didn't seem under the risk. What was she wearing, may I ask? It was like a Nike shirt. And forgive me, my mind's not working too well right now.

It's like a teal green Nike shirt with a swoosh on the front and some kind of dark pants. Was it a short sleeve or long sleeve shirt? Short sleeve. Short sleeve and short or long pants?

They're kind of, they look to be like maybe mid-cap or to the ankle almost. Kind of like a capri. And was her hair up or down? Up. Up. And like a ball on her head. Do you know what time of the day or night that surveillance video was taken? You know, I think it was early, early morning, like in a.m., like before 6 a.m. Now, why would she have been at a gas station before 6 a.m. or at 6 a.m.? I don't know. Was she getting gas or was she going in for coffee or something else? She tried to make a purchase with her perfect stamp card.

And was she in a vehicle or did she walk? We, I know from what I can tell, well, actually, I just, I can't tell. I can't tell if she was walking. Did she have a vehicle? No. Was anyone with her? Well, you know, there was somebody actually that you can see a hand on the door that was holding the door open for her. But that's all you can say.

That tells me it was most likely a man. So you can see a hand. Tattoos on the hand. What? Tattoos on the hand. Really? Can you make out what kind of tattoo? It looks like letters.

Letters. On the back of the palm or the back of the fingers? It looks like on the top of the hand, on top of the fingers. Fingers. Like near the nail? Like near the, like in between the knuckle and the, not the, not the nail though. Got you. Between the nail and the knuckle.

Not between the nail and the knuckle. Between the knuckle and the hand. Yes. Got you. Between the nail and the knuckle. Not between the nail and the knuckle. Between the knuckle and the hand. Yes. Got it. Like when you make a fist, that's where you would see it. So letters right there, that's very significant in my mind. Could you make out, so again, that sounds like a man to me. Could you make out if he was white, black, Hispanic, Asian, anything like that? White.

White. White. Guys, speaking with me right now is the mother of a missing girl, Jessica Van Zandt. Her mother, Christina Johnson, is with me begging for your help. Tip line 229-436-TIPS. That translates to 229-436-8477 or 229-759-6034. Repeat, 229-759-6034. 229-759-6034. That's the number to call. I'm going to circle back to Ms. Johnson in just one moment, but now to Bobby Poitevent,

W-A-L-D, Albany. Bobby, let's just start at the beginning. When did Jessica go missing? When was she last seen by a human, not a video surveillance? So we've got different reports from different law enforcement, and I'm sure Mr. Alday can kind of go into that, what they saw with the sheriff's office. But we have our last reported that we've known of from law enforcement is outside of a motel, actually. And that was sometime at the end of February. We have both the Lee County Sheriff's Office telling us that as well as APD. Okay, pause, pause, pause. Mr. Poitivant, let me ask you a couple of questions right there.

Last seen standing near a motel. Do we have a description of what she was wearing, who she was with, possible vehicle, morning, noon, or night, and her demeanor? Any of that? We don't have much information about that. According to the APD, according to Albany Police, she willingly got into a vehicle outside of the Luxury Inn, which is located in Albany. And that's about all the information that we know. Hold on, just hold on. Do you know what kind of vehicle, Bobby? No, ma'am. Okay. Let me go straight to Investigator Danny Olday joining us from the Sheriff's Department there in Lee County. Investigator Olday, thank you for being with us.

What can you tell me about that sighting of her at the luxury inn? So through our investigation, we have not found any evidence to hold that reliable. Is there any surveillance video there? No, ma'am. We do not have any surveillance video. Do they have it? Do they have it at the luxury inn? I'm not aware of any at this time. To the mom, Christina Johnson, have you been to the luxury inn? Have you noticed if there's surveillance video or not? Because I find it really hard to believe they don't at least have it where you check in. Actually, when that was reported, it was a third party tip. And later on that evening, actually, somebody took a picture of the women and it was confirmed that was not my daughter. It was some other female.

Well, no wonder, no wonder, Bobby. Point of that, and investigated all day, it can't be confirmed, because it was a different woman. So to hay with the video, it's not her. Oh, man. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, for those of you just joining us, we are on the search for a beautiful young girl that will strike terror into every mother and father's heart that hears this. This 21 year old girl, Jessica Van Zandt, last thing we know for sure at a gas station,

she walks in to buy something in the gas station, like a quick stop. And you see a male hand open the door for her. That's all you can see in the video. And on that hand are letters across the knuckle closest to the hand. Okay. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. And the fact that the mother, I think I would remember knuckle tattoos right there. Okay.

I would remember that. I mean, Cheryl McCollum, director of the Cold Case Research Institute, that's the kind of thing that sticks in your mind. Nancy, here's the biggest issue I have with this whole situation right now. You and I, from jump street, would start working on a timeline anytime we had a case. We don't have a qualified timeline at this point. We do not know the last person she was with. We don't know where she was or what she if she was walking or in a car or with somebody. We don't know for sure what she was wearing because

we don't know for sure what day she even went missing. You know what, Cheryl? You know, you and I go way, way back to a crime scene in the early morning hours. Oh, yeah. At a dope scene. But Cheryl, you know what I don't like? I don't like when somebody tells me what's wrong. I don't like that. I don't want to hear why we can't create a timeline. I want to hear what we do have. And then we'll jump off from there.

So Cheryl, give me some good news. I know we've got the video. So we've got that day. But Cheryl, do you think there is any other day before or after that is a credible sighting that we can use to help find this girl? The day that she reached out to her mom on Facebook Messenger is solid. The day that she walked into that grocery store is solid. Okay, were they the same day, Cheryl? No. Okay, what's the most recent day she's alive?

Out to Christina Johnson, Jessica's mom. What date did you get the message from her? Well, actually, that was around the 13th was the last time she'd seen a message. You know, actually, February 4th was the last time she and I had conversed on Messenger. That was my reassurance. I know that February 18th was the last time that she had any kind of conversation with anyone. Who did she speak with on February 18th? The last person I could tell was a young man named Mitch Glauser.

Okay, Mick or Mitch? Mitch, M-I-T-C-H. Last name? Glauser, D-L-A-U-S-I-E-R. Glauser, okay. And let me ask you about the content of that message. Now, what are you using, text? How are you messaging?

It was Messenger, her Messenger. And is she using her phone to do that? No, she didn't have a phone. I don't know whose phone that she was using. Okay, quick question. To Investigator Alday, and I hear, Ms. Johnson, the frustration in your voice. I hear it. I hear your voice cracking, and I would be doing the same thing.

Investigator Danny Alday with me from the Lee County Sheriff's Department. Investigator, that message that she sent to Mitch Blaser, are you familiar with it? I am. Yes, ma'am. What was she saying? Was she upset? So she was talking to numerous people on the 18th, but no, ma'am, with Mitch Costner. It doesn't appear she was upset. She was indicating to him where she was. Where was she? So right now we have basically she was at the local motel, the Deep South Motel in Albany, Georgia. Now, okay, thank you. Now we're getting somewhere. So have you looked at the content of that text, investigator, all date? Yes. Okay. And, you know, to you, Christina Johnson, Jessica's mother, when you last heard from her, and that was on Feb 4, what did she say?

Why was she messaging you? What did she want? She just simply asked if I had gotten any mail here at my house for her. That sounds pretty normal. I mean, to you, Dr. Bethany Marshall, a renowned psychoanalyst joining me out of Beverly Hills. Dr. Bethany, when you have a faked message, for instance, someone abducts you and they holding you captive and I get your phone. I force you to give me your password. And I start sending people messages that I find in your contacts or I use your last known text. And I send these people messages to suggest you're OK. Hey, did you get an email from me? It's not that kind of message. That tells me by the content of that message, she was alive and well on February 4. Would you agree or disagree?

Agree. That is an authentic message from a daughter to a mother with deep, great familiarity. The daughter is dependent on her mother, has a relationship with her mother, loves her mother, needs something from her mother, and she DMs her. So no, this is not some perp who took her phone. And back to you, Investigator Danny Alda. Again, Investigator, thank you for being with us. I know you have business to attend to today, and I appreciate you being with us in the search for Jessica Van Zandt. Investigator, let's fast forward to Feb 18. She texted multiple people that day.

I'm saying text, message. Can you trace whose phone she was using? Wouldn't it pop up on the recipient's phone? Yes, ma'am. We have actually conducted approximately 18 search warrants and we have located the last known phone she used to communicate with. Who was it? It's a person of interest being very uncooperative with us at the time. Okay, I don't like that one bit. Yes, he assaulted an attorney. He has not come forward to provide any additional information to help us find Jessica. How did you manage to, did you get a look at his phone?

We did. How'd you do that? Did you have a warrant or did he just hand it to you? So we executed a search warrant as a defense, and we also obtained a search warrant for his electronic devices. Devices. Does that mean cell phone and computer or just cell phone? Cell phone, computer, any type of external hard drives. Do you believe, Danny Allday, that she was in that location on February 18?

Yes, ma'am. We can say accurately that she was at the Deep South Motel on February 18. Guys, we are talking about the disappearance of a young girl. Bobby, point of event with me, W-A-L-D, Albany. Bobby, so that moves me forward from February 4 to February 18, based on multiple messages that day and the content, the content of those messages. We know she was alive that day, but we're two months late. Bobby, in your sources, guys, Bobby Poitivant joining me, WALD Albany, from your sources, can you place her alive after Feb 18? You know, it's interesting. We haven't had any luck either

placing her alive or gone, any kind of way. You know, she's kind of gone off the face of the map is the way a lot of sources have been telling me. And again, my source is a lot with investigators, and I've kept in contact to go with Ms. Christina Johnson. So, you know, she just kind of went flat off the map around those dates. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about the disappearance of a 21-year-old girl. Last seen that we know of at a local gas station heading in to get what? Coffee, gum, a snack? We don't know.

We do know that a male hand opened the door for her. Take a listen to our friend Bobby Pointevent at WALB News. Christina Johnson wakes up every day thinking of her missing child, 21-year-old Jessica Dietzel. I open my eyes and I know that it's another day and it's real and this is really happening. I say, God, please help me. Jessica Dietzel went missing in February. Her mother, Christina Johnson, tells me she is not sure where her daughter is now or what happened to her. She tells me she has not stopped searching for answers and is grateful the community hasn't either. Some gentlemen offered to scoot out today and they're actually

down there just recreationally. They do it. Well, words can't describe the feeling of pure gratitude of the community. They care so much. It's been almost two months since Jessica went missing. Dropped off the map. Guys, you are hearing our friend Bobby Poiterman speaking to Christina Johnson. This is Jessica's mom. But now, take a listen again to our friend at WALB. Multiple agencies, including the Lee County Sheriff's Office, the Doherty County Sheriff's Office, and Albany Police are looking into Jessica's disappearance. When it comes to Jessica's case, Christina has always had confidence

in both the Lee and Doherty County Sheriff's Office, but not with Albany police. My frustration is that from the beginning, I felt like they had taken it too lightly. There's lots of speculation from the community on why Jessica went missing. Those people that are reported missing or whatever might happen, they are somebody's daughter, son. Don't matter what they're doing, what they're out there involved in, whoever it is, they're human beings. Recently, video conversations have surfaced leading to possible information in Jessica's case. I take everything seriously. Everything I'm getting, I'm still, I mean, I'm getting, and I want it. I want any information. Send it, send it, send it.

The tip line is 229-759-6034. Repeat, 229-759-6034. 229-759-6034. That's the number to call. Ms. Johnson, I heard a baby in the background. Is that Jessica's baby? Yes, Nancy. Do you have her baby? I do. I do. Tell me about the baby. She turned three years old March 1st, and's a absolute princess we we call her baby cakes does she has she asked about her mom um no she has not um you know asked about her poor little

thing yeah three years old guys I'm taking a look at Jessica right now and she's just absolutely beautiful and I don't like that it is being alleged the police took the case too lightly. Cheryl McCollum, director of Cold Case Research Institute, very often police believe, and very often they're right, that the person has reported back home to mommy. But that's not always true, Cheryl. Well, I don't think it's certainly true here, Nancy. She would not have missed that baby's third birthday party on March 1st. She wouldn't have done that. The other thing that concerns me is you've got somebody that's lawyered up. Now, here's the reality of this thing. Albany is a hot spot for this pandemic, this COVID-19. So people are sheltering in place.

His cell phone is going to be a money tree because if he does not have a job where he is essential he shouldn't have been going anywhere on february 18th um but i mean i'm saying february 18th he could have i'm saying now so whatever his movements have been are going to be critical for law enforcement if something bad has happened to jess Jessica and his phone hit somewhere where he knows where he hunts, where he fishes, an out of the way spot, a pecan orchard, there's going to be a place where he goes, where he feels very comfortable that it's secluded. And that's where Detective Allday needs to concentrate. To Detective Allday, joining us, Danny Allday, Lee County Sheriff's Office. Investigator Allday, question about your POI, person of interest, phone. Has it been pinged? Have the movements of the phone around the time of February 18th been looked at?

So, Nancy, we do have those records. We are going through those records. We have obtained location pins from his phone, and we currently have investigators driving around each location that he visited. You know, that's really interesting, Investigator Allday, that you guys have already done that. I mean, to try to get phone records from a phone company, it's like pulling a tooth. Even with a subpoena, it takes them forever. But we are now going on February to March, March to April, two months since Jessica went missing. And now the sheriffs

are out trying to follow those pings once they've been triangulated. You know, I want to go to Dr. Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst, joining me. Why is it, and I always use this because it's such a great example of Scott Peterson. When he murdered his wife, Lacey, and her unborn child, Connor, he didn't go to someplace he had never been. He went to a place he knew very well. He was a fisherman. He went out to San Francisco Bay where he had fished many, many times, countless times, and disposed of her body. Why is it perps always go back to places they're familiar? And this is what I like to do with juries or anyone.

If you had to hide something, let's just pretend a body. If you had to hide something in your own mind, don't blurt it out, Bethany. Where would you go? Where would you hide it? If you think about it, you're gonna go somewhere known to you with which you are familiar, a place you have

frequented or that you know of. Bethany, it's like the dog circling three times before he'll sit down. It's like an instinct. And Nancy, think about Casey Anthony. You know, she secreted her little girl's body basically in her own backyard. At her middle school. That's right. Where she would, in the woods behind a middle school, where she and her friends would go and smoke and hang out behind the school in that wooded area. You're absolutely right. And here's another stat. Two-thirds of all children who are murdered by their parents, the bodies are disposed of within a quarter mile of the family home. So that goes to your theory as well, that it's always a familiar place. Criminals, when they get out of jail, where do they go? They go straight to their

mother's house. So, you know, yes, it's usually a place where there's great familiarity. They've been there many, many times. And I think it's because criminals, perpetrators are very small minded. They are not imaginative. They do not have cause and effect thinking. They never think they're going to be caught. They don't think about going outside of their usual routines because usually, Nancy, they don't think they did anything wrong. They really don't. They can have every rationalization in the world. So they're not going to be clever enough to drive to another state. I mean, we do see that occasionally where somebody goes on some reckless careening ride to another state. Well, we did just see that in the Gannon-Stalk case.

Yes, we did. Where the mother, Letitia Stalk, is accused. With the stepmother. Yes, stepmother. Thank you for that very critical clarification. Stepmother takes Gannon's body all the way from Colorado Springs down to the Florida Panhandle. Yes, and that is very few and far between. Would you agree with that, Investigator Danny Olday, that when you are hiding something, very rarely do perps travel too, too far away to dispose of something? Yes, I've seen that in previous investigations.

They always frequent somewhere where they're familiar with. Like you said, they don't believe anybody else has knowledge of that location. Now, we know that in early March, authorities conducted an extensive search along with volunteers in the community in a wooded area near the Flint River, which is a long river. It's a long body of water that stretches through many, many counties to investigate her all day. What led you to the Flint River? So we received numerous tips that her body may have been thrown into the river. So we conducted a ground search of that area. A ground search? Yes, ma'am. We were not able to get into the water. At the time, we had severe flooding in our area.

So we were not able to put any resources into the water. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we are looking for Jessica Van Zandt, missing out of Albany, Georgia. And yes, I know New York is Albany. Georgia, it's Albany. I want you to take a listen to our Cut 7, Brett. This is Christina Johnson speaking to arm chair detective youtube channel i want you to take a listen to this finally she did i just completely cut off from him and then he went on

a full-fledged terror campaign to tear her apart you know the terror campaign included it handed on facebook didn't it so yes taking it to social media and just oh my gosh and then walking into restaurants if she one time she was in mcdonald's with a friend and he walked in there and started screaming hey you want her uh fifty dollars you can have her and he was calling names he got her fired from her job um he when the restraining order was in effect he went across the road hollering and screaming at her. It was just terrible. Everywhere she went, she moved around a lot.

And it got to where she couldn't even keep a steady place or anything. And it was just rough. He started calling D-Fax on her early on, too, which they came out and they wouldn't find anything, you know, awry or wrong. That just hurts me so much to top it all off. She was being stalked and harassed by the ex. Christina Johnson, this is Jessica's mother, special guest joining us today. How long did the ex, her ex-husband, terrorize her? It started not too long after they had met a lot of manipulation and stuff, but then she just couldn't absolutely take him no more. And she made a break from him. And that was, I'd say, about two and a half years ago, two years, maybe right at two years ago.

And then at that point, he was just full force with it. Was he still stalking her and harassing her at the time she went missing? Well, the hard part about it is that if she wouldn't talk to him and stuff like that, then he played on her emotions. She lost her father when she was little and he died in a jail so kenneth would say things such as you know i'm just gonna go ahead and i'll kill myself or i'm gonna end up you know like your daddy and then um you know the our child would just grow up without the father and that really um played on her heart and her emotions and everything about her life. And it was a back and forth thing. He would reel her in and then he would treat her this

horrible and absolutely just terrorizing, storming her. And then she'd be like, why did I do this? And it was a constant like that. To Investigator Danny Alday, I assume you've looked at the ex, correct? Yes, ma'am, we have. And we're continuing to look into him. You know, Cheryl McCollum, director of Cold Case Research Institute, earlier we heard our friend Bobby Poitiment speaking with various guests, joining us from WALD, Albany. And it's been argued that her case,

her disappearance has been taken very, quote, lightly. You know, Cheryl, when you have a girl, a debutante from a prestigious family with loads of money on her way heading off to an Ivy League school for college. You can't open a newspaper. You can't go online without seeing it. That has not been the case with Jessica. And it's so wrong. It's wrong, Nancy. And people think they know the ending already. They think they know Jessica already, but they don't. And the reality is, if something has happened to her at the hands of someone else, that means Albany has got a killer amongst them. And that should never be okay with anyone, regardless of who the victim is. And you and I have had more than one case where the victim was a hooker or a drug addict

or somebody that was in a violent situation and would not leave. But the reality is, you have somebody amongst you that is a danger to everybody, not just Jessica. You know, Cheryl McCollum, you could not have said it better. Won't you please help find Jessica Van Zandt, her mother here, begging for your help? She has a little girl that I understand looks exactly like Jessica, even the very same smile. We don't want her to grow up without her mother, or at least the knowledge of where is her mother, what happened to her mother,

and grow up thinking, Dr. Bethany Marshall, whether it's true or not, that mommy just left her. That's not what happened. That is not what happened. And we know with children under the age of two, if the mother dies or is removed from the child, that that child is presupposed to diabetes, heart attack, stroke, throughout the lifespan, premature death. Fortunately, the little girl is three. So she's beyond that critical stage. And fortunately, Elena is with her grandmother who loves her so much. The best predictor of good mental and physical health for a toddler who loses the parent is that they go into another very secure home. That is the best predictor. Dr. Bethany, I know you're right. And thank God Christina Johnson is taking care of the baby. But I don't want the baby to grow up thinking she doesn't know what happened to her mother.

And did mommy just leave one day and she's got a whole nother life and a whole nother family in some other location and doesn't care about her, the baby. I don't want that for the baby. is credible research in my field, robust research that shows that if a child, an adult has a good autobiographical narrative of what happened to them and their parents and their family and their life, it's a predictor of good mental health. So in order, in other words, if you're able to tell your own story, if you know the details, if you know exactly what happened, there's reliable information, you can cope in the face of the known. But if little Elena doesn't know if there are gaps or blanks, we read into that our worst possible fears and anxieties, and that could predispose her to be very mistrustful of men and mistrustful of adults.

So the investigators are doing heroic work in trying to bring all the details and facts to life. It's not just for Christina facts to life. It's not just for Christina, the mother. It's not just for Jessica. It's for Elena because she does deserve to know. Back to Bobby Poitiment, WALD, Albany. Bobby, what is the very latest and what else have you guys been able to develop? You know, I have been staying in constant contact with my contacts with several different agencies that are looking into this. It's not just the Lee County Sheriff's Office, although I believe they are the lead investigators on this case. You know, I've contacted them several times a week getting information on what's going on. They are still doing search warrants. That's the latest that I've been told.

And what's interesting, Nancy, about this story is that there's such a huge community response to this. I know you guys were just mentioning that people think they know Jessica. This has sparked a conversation. Unlike any other missing persons case that we've had before, it's sparked a conversation. So we're listening to the community. We get emails all the time about, let's hear some more about Jessica. What's the latest on Jessica? So it's definitely been a mission of mine to constantly stay in contact with investigators on what's going on. APD, Albany Police Department held a press conference, I think about maybe two weeks ago. I talked to them last week, quote directly from them. Suspicions, the investigation has not led to any suspicions

of foul play, although they are taking this case very seriously. So that's the latest from my contacts on what's going on. They may say there's no foul play, Bobby, but I can tell you this, this young girl would never stay away from her own mother and her baby girl for this long? No way. Now, you call it tomato. I call it tomato, but this is foul play. And we wait as this search and justice unfolds. Tip line 229-759-6034. 229-759-6034. That's the number to call. Miss Johnson, please know we are staying on it and our prayers continue. Nancy Grace, Crime Story, signing off. Goodbye, friend. This is an iHeart Podcast.