Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Mild-mannered eye doctor stabs girlfriend 30 times in 'self-defense' as cops now eye 'accidental' death of first wife

Episode Date: December 12, 2019

Margaret Daniel dies in a pool of blood in her townhouse kitchen. Her boyfriend a well known Illinois eye doctor calls 911 telling the operator it was self-defense.Investigators don't agree. He's now charged not only with Daniel's death, but an investigation has been launched into the death of his first wife Bridget. What happened?Joining Nancy Grace to discuss: Bruce Johnson - ISP Investigations; 25- year police veteran. He investigated the death of Bridget Prate for her family. Darryl Cohen, Defense Attorney, Former Assistant District Attorney, Fulton County, Georgia Dr. Debbie Joffe-Ellis - Psychologist, Adjunct Professor at Columbia University Dr. Kendall Crowns, Deputy Medical Examiner Travis County, Texas (Austin)  Levi Page - Investigative Reporter CrimeOnline Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. A meek, mild-mannered eye doctor, Anthony Prate of Schaumburg, Illinois, calls 911 to report his gorgeous young girlfriend is dead on the floor from 30 stab wounds. He says she attacked him and points to a few wounds on his arms and hands, but that's not the end of the story. That's just the beginning of the story. Years ago, his wife, Bridget, who looks amazingly like Margaret, same age, same hairstyle, the works.

She's dead. After a car crash where he is driving. But according to pathologists, she was dead before the crash ever occurred. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want justice. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Tell me exactly what happened. My girlfriend and I had a fight. She stabbed me with a knife and I stabbed her back and I think she's gravely wounded. Okay, I'm going to get our police and paramedics on the way. Is she still inside right now? Yes, yes, we're both inside. Okay, hang on just a second please. Do you still have the knife in your hand, sir? Um, it's on the floor.

Okay. I don't know what I should do. Okay, sir, I want you to just stay on the phone with me. I'm letting my officers know. Where is the knife at that she had? It's on the floor. Okay. Do you feel... We were both fighting with the same knife. Okay. Do you feel safe enough to go back inside to check on her at this point? Yeah. I guess he did because she's dead. Margaret Daniel, his girlfriend, is dead. He doesn't have to worry that she's gonna jump out from behind an easy chair and stab him in the back we see you got the long end and the short end of the stick and that knife fight a knife fight with one knife i might add i'm nancy grace this is crime stories thank you for being with us now listen to this this renowned eye doctor and i watched his commercial all night long trying to reconcile how one meek, mild-mannered eye doctor could have had not one, but two dead lovers in his wake.

Yes, not just the girlfriend, Margaret Daniel, but with me today, now a private investigator, but then 25 years with Illinois State Police, Bruce Johnson sounded the alarm that something was very wrong with Bridget Prate, his wife's car crash. She died in a car crash. Wow. None of this is adding up for me. Again, I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. I just want you to hear this guy speaking. Listen to Dr. Anthony Prate with the iWorld commercial. He just sounds like he's reading straight out of a textbook, like he's sitting there in a pullover sweater with a bow tie by the fireplace. He's got two dead women on his hands. Listen.

You know, I think what makes us unique at the I-Works is that we don't overschedule patients as many, many healthcare practitioners do. Quality eye care requires the time to provide it and we schedule patients so that we're able to see people at their appointed time. And that's pretty unique. We don't keep people waiting. We understand that people have busy schedules and we schedule patients so that we're able to see people at their appointed time and that's pretty unique. We don't keep people waiting. We understand that people have busy schedules and we honor their appointment. We have a wide variety of vision testing apparatus including auto refraction which gives us a You are hearing Dr. Praet go on and on and on. He slings out a lot of medical terms about eye care.

You know what? That's all fine and good. But what about the two dead bodies? With me, an all-star panel. Private investigator, former Illinois State Police officer who investigated the death of his wife, Bridget, for her family many years ago. Daryl Cohen, renowned defense attorney, former prosecutor, inner city Atlanta. Dr. Debbie Joffe Ellis, psychologist, adjunct professor, Columbia University. Dr. Kendall Crowns, deputy medical examiner, Travis County, Austin. But straight out to CrimeOnline.com investigative

reporter, Levi Page, you know, under the law, more than one body is mass murder. I don't care how many years are between them. This would be more of a serial killer in modern day vernacular, if in fact he is guilty. But Levi, let's just start with the most recent death. Her name is Malchersada Margaret Daniel, just 48 years old, super cute. I'm looking at a picture of her right now with a diamond necklace and a flower behind one ear. 48 Margaret Daniel dead. Why? Tell me what happened, Levi Page. So it's 1 30 a.m. and Dr. Anthony Brake calls 911 from the townhouse. What? Stop right there. Stop right there. To Bruce Johnson. Sorry. Sorry, Levi. You didn't get much out, did you? Bruce, 25 years, Illinois State Police.

I've always told juries, I just start off the opening statement. Nothing good happens after midnight. What are people doing up feuding and fighting at 1.30 in the morning? You know how as the minutes tick by, fights, arguments get worse and worse, and somebody's crying, and and somebody's yelling and somebody's throwing a glass the next thing you know you hear a siren 1 30 in the morning bruce usually alcohol involved well truer words could not be spoken you know i always would start look every juror in the eye and say you know nothing good happens after midnight and it's true okay levi page go ahead

1 30 a.m pick it up and he called 9-1, and he told the dispatcher, and you heard that flat effect. He said, she stabbed me with a knife, and I stabbed her back. And police arrived at the scene, and they discovered 48-year-old Margaret Daniel, a nurse, a mother of two adult daughters. She was deceased, and she had approximately 30 stab wounds covering her body. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. Daryl Cohen, renowned defense attorney all across the country, but hails from inner city Atlanta. Daryl Cohen, how in the hay can he say this was self-defense

that the woman attacked the man first? She's got 30 stab wounds, Daryl. No, no, no. And I don't want you to tell me, well, it's going to be tough. Tell me how you can possibly defend that. Well, you start with the fact he's an eye doctor and he probably did not have 20-20 vision. So he was able to go ahead and stab. Actually, Nancy, there is very little defense, but there's explanation. The explanation is when you get stabbed, I'd like to see how deep all of these

stab wounds were, or some of them were. Were they superficial? If he is telling the truth, and likely he is not, but if he is, then how many times did he have to stab her to stop her from stabbing him would be his story. Not a good one, but one that certainly would have to fly in his defense. Well, yeah yeah and i agree with you on that because he is faced with irrefutable evidence that she has 30 at least 30 stab wounds and to deputy medical examiner austin dr kendall crowns the reality is she may have more because when a body is stabbed that many times you can't really tell how many stab wounds are because they overlap. Yes, that's true.

Sometimes the stab wounds can overlap and get commingled and then you get crisscrossing paths. So you can't have actually more than what they think they see. And then they get tucked into creases as well. So it can be even harder to find them. Guys, you know, you just heard Levi Page, who is not only a CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter, but a real crime aficionado, I guess is the best word I could use. Now, Levi Page, I don't believe you've got an M.D. or a Ph.D. behind your name yet, do you? No, Nancy, I don't.

Well, you just made a very good observation that he had a very flat affect. I can't wait to hear what Bruce Johnson says about that, and especially Dr. Debbie Joffe Ellis out of Columbia. Let's take a listen to more of that flat affect. Levi Page, a civilian like myself, identified. Okay, is there anybody else inside the house? Is it just you and her and that's it? Is that correct? Yes. Okay. Let me know when you're back inside. We do have help on the way as we're talking, okay? Okay. Okay, I'm back inside.

Okay. I want you to tell me if she's awake. She's not. Okay. Stay on you to tell me if she's awake. She's not. Okay, stay on the phone with me here, sir. She doesn't look good. She doesn't look good. I don't know what I should do for her. Okay, we're going to walk through this and try to help her until the police and paramedics get there, okay? Just stay on the phone with me here. How old is she, sir? Uh, 48. Okay. Hang on just a second here. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Stay on the phone with me here, sir.

She doesn't look good. She doesn't look good. She doesn't look good. I don't know what I should do for her. Okay. We're going to walk through this and try to help her until the police and paramedics get there, okay? Just stay on the phone with me here. How old is she, sir? 48.

Okay, hang on just a second here. Should I do CPS? Should I do CPS? Should I do CPS? Is that what he just said? I think he meant CPR, but he said CPS. That's certainly a Freudian slip of the tongue. Child Protective Services. Okay, you know, to Dr. Debbie Jaffe-Ellis,

psychologist, Professor, Columbia University. Dr. Debbie Jaffe-Ellis, I got a problem with his affect. He sounds like he was reading the ingredients on the back of a box of cake mix. I mean, he had no affect whatsoever. He's not at all upset. In those moments, I agree with you. It sounds like he's not, but the act was in all probability committed when he was in a very different emotional state. My hypothesis would be that he was enraged and when the act was over, when he felt some relief or satisfaction or whatever, again, I can only hypothesize, then it's not unusual that his effect is different. Now, it could be calculated because he wants to sound remorseful, caring, shocked, innocent, traumatized,

or it may be, again, that he feels some relief. He's proven that he has the control. His rage has been expressed, and he is calm. Take a listen to him on the 911 call. For those of you just joining us, a suburban optometrist stabs his girlfriend at least 30 times. We find out that night they had a dinner in their quiet suburban cul-de-sac, had people over. The subject of death came up and Dr. Prate seemingly got upset. He left the table. He came back but appeared agitated. Then, not long after that, death wasn't just a dinner topic. It was a reality. His girlfriend was stabbed dead. Listen to this. Okay, so we're going to walk through this. Hang on just a moment here with me. How old did you say she is again? 48? 48. Okay. Is she breathing? I don't, I do not think so. Okay. Is she breathing? I do not think so. Okay. There's a lot of blood. Okay. Is she breathing? Should I do CTL? Okay. Okay. Hang on. Okay. I want you to stay on the phone here. I've got injuries to my hands and my arms, but I could do CPR.

Should I do it? Okay, sir, I want you to, okay, sir, listen to me. We have the police and paramedics, like I said, on the way to help you. I want you to stay on the phone with me. Hang on just a moment here. We're going to start CPR, but I'm letting my police and paramedics know. Just stay on the phone here with me, okay? Should I do CPR?

What should I do? Okay, if there is a defibrillator available, I want you to get it now and tell me when you have it okay maybe i'm missing something but to bruce johnson current private investigator who investigated the death of prate's first wife bridget prate for her family he is owner of isp investigations he's 25 years under his belt with the Illinois State Police. Maybe I'm wrong, but, I mean, isn't he a doctor? Yeah, absolutely. He's a doctor, and you don't hear any panic in his voice.

He's nice and calm, like the other guest had said earlier. But a couple things regarding the injuries that I'm really curious about is, you know, does he have defensive wounds? Where are they? Well, they certainly weren't serious. He said they were on his hands and arms. And I also want to know about hers. In a lot of crimes of passion like this where a victim is stabbed multiple times, Nancy, I think you know this, guess where the other injuries may be,

and that may be the eyes. I'm curious to see if he stabbed her in the eyes at all because a lot of times when a loved one is killing another loved one, they stab them in the eyes because they don't want them looking at him during the act well bruce johnson you certainly conjured up a pleasant image for me to think about today stabbing somebody in the eyes my point is uh bruce i feel like i should call you sergeant or captain or something after 25 years with the state police but bruce he's the master sergeant my goodness okay we need to put that on his bio, Jackie.

That's something you work hard to obtain. The thing is, when I say he's a doctor, yet he was asking 911 how to perform CPR. Now, Dr. Debbie Jaffe Ellis, Columbia University, I know that you just told me he must have been enraged during the stabbing, but he sure cooled down quickly for that 911 call. But what did he have, temporary amnesia? I forget everything he learned in medical school. He's asking dispatch, you think I should? You

think I should perform CPR? Huh? What do I do? He's a doctor. Yeah, well, he had, I mean, again, I can only hypothesize, but one possibility, Nancy, is that he is somewhat in a day state. Just because one commits a violent, enraged act doesn't mean it doesn't shake one up a little bit. So he may have been a little shocked, albeit sounding so calm. It's not unusual and it's no proof of innocence, nor is it proof of guilt. Well, Dr. Debbie Jaffe-Ellis, it sounds to me that you were saying he was enraged during the stab and he quickly cooled down and then he went into shock and couldn't remember how to perform CPR, even though he's a doctor and a medical doctor. And on top of that, I want to just go through quickly with Dr. Kendall Crowns,

Deputy Medical Examiner, Austin. Dr. Crowns, you know what's happened. In the autopsy, it was revealed that Margaret was stabbed three times in her chest, seven times in her back. She also had two deep cuts in her stomach and defensive wounds on her hands and arms. Dr. Crowns, what does that tell you? Well, the defensive wounds means she was trying to stop being stabbed, trying to grab at the knife or whatever. Usually when people are being stabbed and they don't have a knife themselves. They use their hands even though they're going to get cut because that's all you have.

The wounds in the front and the back and the depth of them, I mean, he probably at some point she was down and was just continuing to stab her, which is what we call overkill. And it usually shows, again, going along with everybody else, rage or a kind of a crime of passion. Dr. Kendall Crowns, I guess it's because you've performed thousands and thousands and literally thousands of autopsies, but I just don't know how you and Dr. Debbie can stay so calm when this woman in the prime of her life is on the kitchen floor now with a knife in her hand.

That's convenient. The knife has been put back in her hand. You think I should do CPR maybe as my girlfriend lies bleeding out on the floor? You know, another issue that we're seeing right now, Daryl Cohen, of course we have Dr. Kendall Crowns with us to explain it. But you tell any jury on God's green earth that she stabbed seven times in the back, and that screams to me. You can tell a kindergarten student that, and they can figure out that is not self-defense. When you shoot somebody in the back or render a murderous blow to the back of the head or

stab them in the back. They are retreating. Their back is turned to you. That is no longer self-defense. You are the pursuer. You are the aggressor, not the victim. Not necessarily. Oh, please.

Depending on how close the proximity was, if she and he were closely engaged and he's stabbing her in the back rather than being able to stab her from the front, it could have been self-defense. Unlikely. And by the way, I want to know what type of knife it was. Was it a long knife? Was it a hunting knife? Was it a pocket knife? That to me makes a large difference as well. But yeah, if those stab wounds show that she was retreating, I agree with you. But if on the other hand, they were in close proximity, I'd completely disagree.

Bruce Johnson, 25 years Illinois State Police, now private investigator, owner of ISP Investigations. Please talk some sense. Maybe you can help poor Daryl Cohen. Yes. Sounds like he's starting to believe his clients. I cannot agree with that at all. Obviously, it's showing that he's dominating. So even if they're in close proximity,

even if he's in a hugging position and stabbing her in the back, he's still in a dominating position, and he's in control for sure. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Prosecutors and police now say in a joint statement, we are closely monitoring the ongoing investigation related to Mr. Prate in Cook County and will continue to evaluate incoming information for any bearing it may have on the tragic death of Bridget Prate in 2011. COOK COUNTY AND WILL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE INCOMING INFORMATION FOR ANY BEARING IT MAY HAVE ON THE TRAGIC DEATH OF BRIDGET PRATE IN 2011.

CONNIE TONDO SAYS PRATE IS A BIG PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MOST NEIGHBORS ALWAYS ASSUMED IT WAS AN ACCIDENT. My kids have been over there, his kids have been here. I would never imagine anything like that.

THE FIRST AUTOPSY ON BRIDGET PRATE WAS CONSIDERED INCONCLUSIVE. STATE POLICE WERE INVESTIGAT. State police were investigating the case as recently as 2016. It's unclear if anything new will have developed as a result of these murder charges in Schaumburg. You're hearing our friends at ABC7 Eyewitness News. That was John Garcia speaking to neighbors of the Prates. Wait just a minute.

So several years ago, his wife, Bridget, about the same age as Margaret, a little bit younger, is killed in a car crash. But a pathologist who performs the autopsy on wife Bridget says her injuries were not consistent with a major collision and said point blank. And I quote, Bridget was dead prior to the time of the accident. Now, the mild-mannered eye doctor, Anthony Prate, told investigators wife Bridget unbuckled her seatbelt to look for her purse and water bottle just before he, what a coinkydink, lost control of the vehicle, crossed the line of traffic, and hit an oncoming car and smashed into a tree. What? He drives across the yellow line, lost control of the car. She, at that moment, happened to have unbuckled her seatbelt to find her purse and water bottle. He clips an oncoming car and smashes into a tree. The autopsy found fractured vertebra in Prate's neck,

which should not have killed her. She only suffered minor wounds on her body like scratches and bruises. I mean, help me out, Bruce. The pathologist said she was dead before the crash. What happened to that investigation? I agree with that.

Well, that accident happened in 2011, and I was retired in 2013, and the family, after getting multiple dead ends and not having any follow-up with their case, brought it to me. And I looked at it, and exactly what you were just saying here, it's a low-impact crash. If you look and you just look at the position of her body in the car accident and given his own words, he's driving, she's leaning over the back seat to get her purse,

and the witness of the car coming at him said he didn't veer into the lane it was a quick all of a sudden jolt into the lane barely clips the car and then hits goes down and hits the tree so question to everybody here where should the body of the victim be in that accident she's leaning over she's coming back toward the front. He says he gives her room to get back to the front seat. We all know she's going to hit the dashboard and she's going to go forward and then she's going to come back into the seat. Well, she's found crumpled on the floorboard of the car. It cannot happen from this accident. And not only was, you know, she not getting any help immediately immediately but he

supposedly got out of the car and started to render cpr where now he knew how to do cpr but there was a nurse on scene almost immediately that ran to the car and you know their statements are kind of vague because their adrenaline is flowing and things of that nature but she's trapped underneath the dashboard and laying on the floorboard. Now, if you're in an uprighted position and basically hanging over the front seat, there's no way in that type of low-impact crash that you're going to end up in that final resting position. And you're telling me at that time, Bruce Johnson, owner of ISP Investigations, who investigated in depth the death of wife Bridget Prate.

You're telling me that people rushed up to the scene, including a nurse, and they saw him performing CPR? From the reports that we were looking at, yes, that he stated that he was doing CPR, and I believe one of the witnesses stated that upon their stated that he was doing CPR. And I believe one of the witnesses stated that upon their approach that he was attempting CPR. But then he told the 911 operator when his girlfriend, his mistress, died of stab wounds, he didn't know how to do CPR. Lying in a pool of blood. Lying in a pool of blood. That is certainly accurate. Tell me something, Bruce Johnson, why was the case just dropped, Bruce? Because you've

got a pathologist saying she was dead before the crash. I mean, the airbags didn't even deploy. That's how much I thought in my mind it was a single car accident. I thought he just plowed into a tree. But now I know he clipped a car, then went into a tree. Then he jumps out completely unscathed, and she's dead. What happened to the investigation? That's the mystery. We have a pathologist that says that it's more than likely that she was dead prior to the accident, and then they went and got a second autopsy from Dr. Larry Bloom, and I guess his findings were not that,

well, I guess his findings were that she possibly could have been alive at the time of the accident. So when they got that data. Then what was his cause of death? What was his ruling on cause of death? Everything that I read, it's inconclusive. He has not given that. And in a low-impact accident.

So we've got one doctor saying inconclusive. He has not given that. And in a low impact accident. So we've got one doctor, we got one doctor saying inconclusive. We got another doctor saying she was dead before the crash. Levi Page, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter. What can you tell me about Bridget Pratt's death? I mean, the airbag didn't even deploy. He gets out completely unharmed. She's dead, and I can't get a cause of death on it. She just died, and seemingly nobody bothered to figure out how she died, and it reminds me of an arson case I had with a millionaire who, his house caught on fire, really ritzy part of town. The fire department blasted up in there. He is across the street lounging a la Romanesque in the neighbor's front yard. And they talked to him for several minutes before he says, oh yes, oh yes, my wife's in there. She was covered in bruises, I might add. She died a few days later

of smoke inhalation, never came to. I'm always suspicious when the man makes it out completely unharmed and the wife is dead. If you want justice, Jackie, you and Dave Mack, call today because I want answers. I want to know what happened. You can call the Lake in the Hills Police Department at 847-854-5020. Repeat, 847-854-5020. Don't worry, I'm calling because this is total BS to Dr. Kendall Crowns. Now, I know you're an MD, but that's a technical legal argument. Total BS. How can two doctors look at a body? One says inconclusive. One says she was dead at the time of the crash. But I still don't know how she died, Kendall.

So, you know, they always say that medicine's an art. So two people can look at the same thing and come up with completely different opinions. That actually happens a lot in my profession. Another problem we have is sometimes people are paid quite well to have an opinion. So you also have to look at that as well. Nancy, can I just say something? Go ahead. Jump in.

Because the first pathologist says because he could not find hemorrhaging near the vertebrae fracture, he suspected that the wound occurred postmortem. So that's a fact of itself right there that the other one cannot dispute. The other thing is it's just a fracture. It doesn't say that the neck vertebrae was snapped in half or that there was an underlying injury that could have caused death. So that's giving you a very good quote of it being post-mortem because they have scientific proof that there's no hemorrhaging near the vertebrae. Okay, Dr. Kendall Crowns, I believe you've been called on the carpet by a civilian. By a civilian! He didn't even go to medical school aren't you embarrassed

i'm embarrassed for you kendall no not not actually because your question was how can two people have varying opinions which is what i answered but yes you did yes you did yes if we're going to go to the court transcript you got me on a technicality but what about what bruce did say regarding no hemorrhaging around that fracture? So I would agree with Bruce completely. No hemorrhaging around a fracture to me means that individual was dead before the accident occurred. Because if your heart's no longer pumping, you don't get hemorrhage when you get a fracture. So to me, that individual was dead before that accident happened. Also the discussion about how her body was positioned in this low speed semi head-on collision.

She shouldn't have been underneath the dashboard. It's an odd position. It doesn't make any sense. If anything, she should have face planted into the dash and then flip back into her chair or possibly face planted into the dash and then flip back into her chair or possibly face planted into the dash and then rolled through the front windshield but she shouldn't submarine go ahead bruce nancy yeah one other thing regarding that which also helps our case for the victim let's say that she was alive and she uh she died of an asphyxia type death, right, from being crushed, that still puts

her on the floorboard. Yeah, but in an asphyxial type death. She's going to need a long enough time to die from asphyxiated type death from a crushing pressure on your chest or on your abdomen and being failure to breathe. In those situations, usually they can't pull them out of the car. That's where the jaws of life come in. So also there's specific findings in asphyxial crushing deaths, especially with cars, which I've seen quite a few of,

is you get massive petechial hemorrhages, which are these small pinpoint hemorrhages on the skin from the blood actually being congested by the fact that the chest is compressed by something or the neck is compressed by something and it causes all the little capillaries to burst and it forms these pinpoint hemorrhages. So there's no description of that. So you can remove the crushing injuries. There's no hemorrhage in this minor fracture. Right. And so you can, you can remove all of that stuff. And again, it just seems to me like she was dead beforehand. So I don't understand how there's a varying opinion, but like I said, you know, sometimes people are paid quite well to have a varying

opinion. Well, I got to agree with that. Let me jump in here. This, you know, I got to tell you, you're talking about something that was basically cleared. I think they would use it. It was not cleared. No, it was not cleared. Well, it wasn't cleared, but it wasn't prosecuted, Nancy. Well, hold on, hold on. Wait, Darrell, I've got to tell you something. Hold on.

Just recently, just recently, a FOIA request, Freedom Information Act request was made. People wanted to look at the records. The PD, Lake in the Hills PD, refuses to give out information. They denied a request for the records related to the crash, claiming it's an active criminal investigation. Active investigation, my rear end. Nine years have passed, Daryl. That's why I say that they will use this, but the reality is he's going to go down for 30 stabbings on one former girlfriend. You know, I think he should go down for both. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Levi Page, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter. I can't wait to hear what Dr. Debbie says about this.

Levi Page, isn't it true just before his wife died in the collision, he had called police and said she was planning to kill him because she was having an affair. You are absolutely correct, Nancy. He claimed that he was listening to a conversation she was having with another man and they were plotting to kill him and take the house from him. So he called 911. Police arrived at the scene and they interviewed the wife that died and the man that she was talking to. And he said, no, we were not plotting to kill him. I'm studying for a real estate exam. And we were discussing procedures on what happens when a homeowner dies. So there were no charges filed. But it shows you that there's something wrong there in the marriage if he's calling 911.

About her allegedly having an affair. Bruce Johnson, PI, what about it? Was Bridget having an affair? No, she was not, but he was, you know, very tight with her. He had a really tight rein on her. He was always concerned of who she was calling. He had left the house, and then he hid in the closet so he could hear their conversation. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

You know what, Daryl Cohen? I'm about to go to our shrink, Dr. Debbie. But if I had to hide in the closet and listen to my husband on the phone, first of all, my ears would bleed because his conversations about business are so, no offense, David, because you know I love you, so boring. But if I had to hide in the closet to listen in to what David was saying on the phone, that's when you need a divorce right there. Or you are a nut hiding in the closet trying to listen in.

That tells me his frame of mind. He's a nut. Uh-oh, Dr. Debbie wants in. Yeah, well, it sounds that he had an intense need to have absolute control over relationships and perhaps other situations in his life. And when he perceived that he didn't have full control or that something was going to happen that was against what he thought should be the case, then he catapulted into rage and that could have fueled his violent actions. I know this.

The ongoing investigation in Cook County has caused this matter to be re-evaluated, and what we are learning is that apparently the district attorney's office is looking at the so-called crash again. But it's been nine years will there be any justice for bridget prate and if authorities had listened to bruce johnson at the time would margaret daniel the mother of two still be alive today instead of being found in a pool of blood in the kitchen floor of her apartment, dead at the hands of her eye doctor boyfriend, Anthony Prate. If you want justice, as do I, ask for answers. 847-854-5020.

847-854-5020. 847-854-5020. We wait as justice unfolds, and I pray to God it does. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off. Goodbye, friend. This is an iHeart Podcast.