Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Missing people & silent suspects - The cases of mom Joleen Cummings & little Owen Hidalgo-Cameron

Episode Date: June 18, 2018

A woman suspected in the disappearance of a Florida hair stylist sits in jail, refusing to share details -- if she knows them -- of what happened to Joleen Cummings. Kimberly Kessler was the last kno...wn person to see the mom of 3. Nancy Grace examines the latest evidence updates the search for Cummings with Cold Case Research Institute director Sheryl McCollum, forensic psychiatrist Dr. Daniel Bober, and CrimeOnline.com reporter Leigh Egan. The search for 1-year-old Owen Hidalgo-Calerdon, missing since his mother was found dead in Upstate New York last month, has ended in frustration. The mother's ex-boyfriend admitted to burying Selena Hidalgo-Calderon, but he has not admitted to killing her. Reporter John Lemley joins Grace to update the case. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. today at PIMagazine.com. Use this show's promotional code for your special discount at PIMagazine.com. Subscribe today. Use promo code Nancy for your special discount. That's promo code Nancy. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on Sirius XM Triumph, Channel 132. Before you head to your local hair salon, think twice. Right now, we are on the trail of a gorgeous young missing mom. Jolene Jensen Cummings has two little boys, hasn't been seen or heard from since she left work at Tangles Beauty Salon. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. And the plot seems to thicken. Joining me right now, Lee Egan, investigative reporter with CrimeOnline.com.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Lee, please explain to me why a salon co-worker is revealed to have an assumed identity. And right now, police are zeroing in on another hairdresser. What? That is correct, Nancy. And what's going on with Kimberly Kessler, which is her real name, is that she's had 18 different identities over the past, since 1994. Now, wait a minute. Clear something up for me, Lee. When you say Kimberly Kessler has had all these various identities, Kimberly Kessler is not the missing lady.
Starting point is 00:02:07 The missing woman, the mother of two little boys is, wow, she's pretty. She's perfect. She works at a salon. Her hair is perfect. Her face is perfect. Everything about her is perfect. Jolene Jensen Cummings is a young mom who disappears. Last time she was seen was at Tangles Beauty Sal yulee florida now this woman has all these identities 18 whoa now that's her co-worker who also works in the salon right that's correct and police say that kessler has also had numerous different job titles over the years she was a truck driver at one time worked in restaurants different hairstylists at different salons. And they think she has something going on or she's using these jobs as a cover. Well, hold on, Lee Egan.
Starting point is 00:02:53 You could say that about me, too. I've been a receptionist at an office, worked at a sandwich shop where I had the awesome task of cleaning the bathrooms and mopping the floors every night. I mean, Dr. Daniel Bober is with me, forensic psychiatrist. Last I looked, having a long series of different jobs is not a felony. So what does it matter that this woman, this coworker has all these jobs, Dr. Bober? You know, it's interesting, Nancy. This is my only job. It's the only thing I really know how to do.ber. You know, it's interesting, Nancy. This is my only job. It's the only thing I really know how to do. But, you know, one of the things... You never did anything else in college? Yeah, I worked in a pharmacy. I was a tech. Okay. So, I mean, you mean you worked with drugs? Yes, I did. See, I mean, you can make anything look bad if you want
Starting point is 00:03:40 to. Right. That probably doesn't surprise you that I worked with drugs. But Nancy, you know, there's something called the psychopathy checklist, which is actually a measure that we use to measure psychopathy or psychopaths. And one of the things they look at are job changes. People that have multiple job changes are known to be unstable and more. That's one factor that we look at with people who are psychopaths. Not that I'm saying that this woman is a psychopath, but multiple job changes on someone's resume is usually a red flag, especially if they're for a very short duration. Okay. I'm going to take your word for it because you're the forensic psychiatrist, not me. Guys, FYI, psychiatrist, that means he's got an MD, a medical degree, i.e. like your doctor, plus an additional degree in psychiatry.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Okay, Lee Egan, enough about Dr. Daniel Bober and his pristine work record and his resume. Let's get back to this co-worker with 18 aliases. Now, that's a problem. Cheryl McCollum, director of the Cold Case Research Institute. You know how much i used to love it love with a capital l when i would be trying a defendant and when i would introduce him to the jury oh the drama cheryl mccullum aka also known as cheryl green also known as Cheryl Green, also known as blah, blah, blah, and go through every single alias. And I'd make sure that they were indicted with every single alias on the front of the
Starting point is 00:05:12 indictment because I didn't know why, but I knew there was something wrong with that. I mean, technically, like Dr. Daniel Bober has a psychiatric explanation of why that's wrong. Okay. I just knew instinctively it was wrong. And I'm sure the jury did too. Weigh in. Best way to hide.
Starting point is 00:05:30 You change your name, you change everything about you. People are not going to be able to locate you if your name is different. So this woman has 18 different aliases, but she's also moved from state to state to state. She has jobs where they don't do a deep background check. So you walk in the salon, they pretty much hire you the same day you come in if they're desperate. They don't know who you are. So this woman literally has been hiding in plain sight. Back to Lee Egan, investigative reporter with CrimeOnline.com.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Okay, Lee, sorry about the detour. Pick it up. The thing is, when she had these different jobs, she would change her name each and every time. She never kept the same name, and that's the red flag that the police picked up on, and for some reason, they think there is a reason that she keeps changing her name. She's hiding something. What we know right now is that this gorgeous young mom of two boys, Jolene Jensen Cummings, has disappeared. Last seen at Tangles Hair Salon in Yulee, Florida. Lee Egan, CrimeOnline.com reporter, when was the last time she was seen? She was last seen on May 13th. She was supposed to pick up her children, and she did not show up.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Obviously raised a red flag with all of her family because she is very much a hands-on mother, and she spends a lot of time with them. She separated from the children's father, and she was supposed to meet him at a parking lot to pick them up, and she did not show up. To Cheryl McCollum, director of the Cold Case Research Institute, the parking lot, you know, I'm right in the middle of writing a nonfiction book about how to stay safe in a world of crime. Parking lots are, you know, we have to live with them. They're a known danger, but a parking lot presents a whole unique set of danger. Explain.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Nancy, there's a lot of coverage for people to hide, whether it's under your car, beside your car, or frankly, in your car. So the parking lot, a lot of times you're distracted, whether you have packages or you're rummaging through your keys or you're trying to maneuver several children. A lot of times we're not paying attention walking to our car. We feel very safe. So we're just distracted and thinking about other things,
Starting point is 00:07:53 and somebody can pop up in a moment and brandish a weapon and get us to get into our car with them. You know what's interesting, Cheryl McCollum, everyone with me, director of the Cold Case Research Institute. Cheryl another thing about parking garages specifically if the perp knows the victim that means they know you're coming you're the person coming back to this particular car. If they know that much they probably know what time you're coming back to this particular car, if they know that much, they probably know what time you're coming back to the car. For instance, many, many times, as you will recall, when I was
Starting point is 00:08:31 prosecuting, I would go out, take, at the end it was Polaroid pictures of crime scenes, and do my own investigation. I'd come back to the courthouse. If it was a regular day, anybody would know what time generally I would come back to the car, usually in the dark. When I would get back, so many times my car would be, had the windows bashed out, I'd have my tires slit. Everybody, if you're looking for a particular person, you know when they're coming back to the car. You know how much time you have, or you know when they're coming back to the car you know how much time you have or you know when to be there to lay in wait to ambush them so that's a whole nother set of danger regarding parking lots cheryl mccollum it is and nancy also with a co-worker here's the reality if somebody walks up to you that you work with and say oh oh, my word, my car won't start. The battery's dead.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Can you give me a ride to Pet Boys or can you give me a ride to the gas station? You wouldn't think twice to allow a co-worker inside your car to give them a short ride somewhere. Back to Lee Egan, CrimeOnline.com reporter. So once she goes missing and doesn't pick up her children, I think actually it's two boys and a girl. Lee Egan, when she doesn't show up to pick them up, you know, after work, does the family hear from her? Do they get a text message, a phone call, anything? Absolutely nothing at all. Radio silence. They've heard nothing from her since that day. I'm taking a look at this right now. Dr. Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist with me
Starting point is 00:10:05 along with investigative reporter lee egan and cold case research institute director cheryl mccullum i'm looking at it and this is just like every strip center you go to there's um you know where there are four or so anchors with the tall tower. It's like a little village, and then around it are others. Tangles Hair Salon, they're all over the country. On one side is Dick's Wings and Grill. On the other side is Game Over Video Games and More. And in the center, the anchor is Tangles Hair Salon, clearly bringing in the most business.
Starting point is 00:10:43 You know, in that scenario, Cheryl McCollum could have been anybody. I would look at the customers, not necessarily women, but I first look at guys. I look at the ex-boyfriend, the ex-husband, if there are any, the current love interest, if there are any. I would look at all of the customers that she had dealt with that day, particularly the men, only because statistically they're more likely to have kidnapped her or harmed her. Then I would look at delivery people. I would look at the people that worked on either side of her, where she went for lunch that day. Did she go to a Jersey Mike's?
Starting point is 00:11:26 Did she go to a Subway's? Did she go to Taco Bell? Who was there? Get surveillance video. That's the route I would first take. So what I'm saying in a shopping center like this, Cheryl McCollum, it could be anybody. You cast that net as wide as you can because it absolutely could be anybody. But there's no doubt with an ex,
Starting point is 00:11:45 if she's supposed to meet them to exchange the children, you've got to look at that person. So you're going to maybe waste some time, but that's a go-to. That's 101. What about it to Dr. Daniel Bober? I agree, Nancy. I mean, I think you have absolutely cast a wide net. And like you said, the ex-lovers, I mean, those are more likely to be the perp. And you also have to look at things like credit card receipts. I mean, you have to really cover all your bases. After all of this, you know, we have to go back to, you know, there's all the technological advances like all of the recording videos,
Starting point is 00:12:21 the surveillance cameras that you have in a shopping center or in a store like tangles you know trained on the cash register but there's also always have you ever driven alan duke joining me out of la jackie howard here in the studio alan you know when you drive behind a shopping strip mall or a mall or a kroger or or whatever Publix, there's the back entry. There's always an alleyway in the back for deliveries. Employees park in the back. That's a lot less noticeable than the overt front parking lot. Anything can go down in that back alley. Yeah. And I think these days, though, there are a lot of cameras back there because that's where things do go down. So they watch it.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Yeah, they watch it. But the camera doesn't stop the crime. I think we can all agree on that. Luckily, he's right. There are cameras back there. But what I'm saying is throwing that wide net is so important. But off surveillance cameras for just one moment and back to regular detective work, the old-fashioned way. Take a listen to this about the ex-boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Is there any way your son could be involved with her disappearance? My son had nothing to do with that girl's disappearance. You know, he come out here Wednesday. He's been with me all week on Saturday when the girl was supposed to be missing. Me and him was here at the house all day long. My son does plenty of many things, but hurt another but hurt another woman killed my son would never hurt a woman so you don't think he has she has anything to do with her disappearance he couldn't he was out here with me how could he how can he be in newly and here at the same time it raises lots of flags
Starting point is 00:14:00 with what just happened her tone was she was moreantic. I think it's because the kids, where they don't know if they're there for any other fights, but this one, she just seemed more frantic. Listen to Jolene's mother. It motivates me. Actually, it just motivates me. It motivates me that the community just loves my daughter and that they care about each other. We're a small
Starting point is 00:14:26 knit community but it's impacted by everybody. I mean, from one parent to another, can you You know, just the smallest closure would be having a home. And that's the hardest part. Just not having a home. And I totally, totally believe with all my heart that prayer sustains us. And the community has shown that. I just need my child home. I need that closure. Is there a complete closure?
Starting point is 00:15:14 No. There's never such a thing as complete closure. We need that. How would a parent feel? How would a parent feel? How would a parent feel? Not being able to bring your child home. That's all I ask for. Somebody knows something.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Somebody knows something. Somebody knows something. Let's talk about Jolene Jensen Cummings, a young mom of three, goes missing. look at all the cards and the stuffed animals and the flowers. Hoping against hope to bring her daughter Jolene home to her three children. The only way we're going to do that is to analyze what we know. Her SUV, Jolene's SUV, was found abandoned outside a Home Depot. Surveillance video has just emerged. Listen. We found some camera footage that showed Jolene's vehicle being parked around 1.17 a.m. Sunday morning.
Starting point is 00:16:45 The video showed the driver sit there for a few minutes and then get out. We were hoping to see Jolene get out of that vehicle. But who do you think it was? The Tangles hairstylist. Who was supposedly the last person to see Jolene. Well, there you have it. To Cheryl McCollum with the Cold Case Research Institute, we can run down every guy that came in the salon, every ex-boyfriend that ever had a spat with her.
Starting point is 00:17:17 But the video doesn't lie, Cheryl. What is the co-worker with 18 aliases doing in her SUV at 1 o'clock in the morning? I mean, how could you put an innocent face on that? You can't. And Nancy, the thing that sticks out the most for me is the distance from where she was last seen to where her car was found. And Nancy, here's the reality. Where she was last seen at 5 p.m. and where the car was found at Home Depot is two miles apart. That's a 10-minute drop. But that person had eight hours with this victim to do whatever occurred in that car before they ditched it. Eight hours to drive her somewhere, eight hours to harm her,
Starting point is 00:18:08 eight hours to hide her, and drive back and ditch that vehicle at 117 a.m. You know what? I was thinking along a different avenue altogether. But saying that, you're absolutely right. You know, when I hear about missing children, I think of the time they go missing versus the time that they're reported missing versus the time police are mobilized and start looking. And I multiply it times 60 miles an hour. And that's how far away they could have gotten. To Lee Egan, these two women, were they on a friendly basis what do we know about them
Starting point is 00:18:47 were they working the same shift at which she goes missing was their animosity did they have an argument that day and if so over what what do we know lee they were not on a friendly basis they were very a lot of animosity between them some reason, from what her co-worker said is Kessler had a problem with Jolene, but they did not know why. She just refused to help her. She just snubbed her at every chance she got. And it was to the point where it was uncomfortable inside the salon. It made things very tense. But, I mean, tense enough to commit a murder this this is what
Starting point is 00:19:27 i know about this woman uh kimberly kessler she is originally from butler pennsylvania and she had been using a fake social security number now that's another thing i don't get to dr daniel bober a forensic psychiatrist you know when I go to if I write a check at the grocery store, I've got to get show a credit card. I got to show an I.D. I mean, they look you up and down. I'm surprised I don't take a fingerprint. How does this woman get a hold of a fake social security number? You would think, Nancy, that everything would not match up. But, you know, when you go to the store and you present your credit card and your driver's license, you know, you don't necessarily have to present your social security number. It would probably only come up under
Starting point is 00:20:11 certain instances. And again, if you tried to assume someone else's identity, not all your documentation would be consistent. So it is quite puzzling. Yeah, it's puzzling. All right. This is all right this is what else we know apparently as soon as jolingo's missing she skedaddles what do we know about that lee egan crime online.com reporter where was kessler ultimately located once they see the video we just talked about where do they find kessler they found her sleeping in her own car at a rest area off the interstate. Wait a minute, Lee Egan. There's more to it than that. Just being asleep at a rest stop means nothing to me.
Starting point is 00:20:52 That's not anything even remotely unusual. parked her black Kia Soul between two semi-trucks at a rest stop along I-95 in St. John's County to hide it, to hide it. She doesn't want to be spotted. Now, to me, that's significant. Cheryl McCollum, weigh in. No question. When people go to a rest stop, they usually park as close to the building as they can because they have to go to the restroom. The semi-trucks, as y'all know, are way off in the distance. So not only is she as far from the building as she can get, she's wedged herself between two semi-trucks so people cannot see her car and or cab. Another thing, we know that she was taken in on, what was the initial charge, Lee Egan? Grand theft auto. Okay, for using, for having Jolene's SUV without her permission.
Starting point is 00:21:54 But then the story gets even more bizarre when she stages a hunger strike. Yes, she stages a hunger strike. Okay. Behind bars, why, Cheryl McCollum, does this woman stage a hunger strike? Two reasons. She thinks she's going to gain sympathy from people. And the second reason is she wants to be moved to a medical ward because it's easier to do time with nurses than in a cell with guards. Guys, we are talking about the disappearance of a gorgeous young mom of three who worked at Tangle's Hair Salon. And as of right now, she still has not been located, but it looks bad. Take a listen to what her mother says. We will. We will win this. I know we will. Justice will be served, and my daughter will be found.
Starting point is 00:22:58 It's got to be so frustrating to you, you know, because they're not talking at all or, you know, saying anything. It's okay because the truth will come out. She got caught. She got caught. And I met her. My granddaughter met her. That's the hardest part. How can somebody so cold?
Starting point is 00:23:26 And it's a long year. Yes. Yeah. Faith sustains us, and faith will get us through this. Her mother not giving up hope. She's not the only one looking for Jolene. The entire community has joined together and in the last hours have been out searching, holding on to hope. Friends, family, relatives, volunteers of the missing mom of three were back out searching in the last hours. And their search focused around a racetrack gas station
Starting point is 00:24:06 on State Road 200 in Yulee. Interesting, why are they focusing on the area around the racetrack, Lee Egan? I believe that the gas station where she was last seen, Kessler was last seen, I think that she went and got a taxi cab from that gas station. Okay, remember, Kessler is the co-worker, not the missing mom, Jolene. Now, again, she has not been charged in any way in Jolene's disappearance. She still is behind bars, however, on Grand Theft Auto, okay, for using Jolene's car without her permission. I'm looking now at video and a feed of volunteers beating through the thick Florida brush. I don't even see how they can get through it looking for Jolene. Now, according to the sheriff's office, in the meantime,
Starting point is 00:25:00 this woman, Kimberly Kesslerler starts a hunger strike now she started the hunger strike after she reads a story about the sheriff Bill Leeper's announcement that she Kessler had lived in 33 cities in 14 states under at least 17 names, all just since 1996. Now, there was a reason the sheriff did that, Dr. Daniel Boebert. There's a reason he put out that information. Why? To inform people, to let the public know what's going on. Nancy, I'll tell you why he did it.
Starting point is 00:25:39 He did it because she's rented rooms from people. She's had other jobs that we don't know anything about, and quite possibly there are other victims out there, either of identity theft or much worse. Investigators have received dozens of tips from the public through Crimestoppers. None of them have led them to Jolene Jensen Cummings yet. The reward has now been increased to $4,000 for information leading to an arrest in the case. Let me just give you that number now. 1-866-845-TIPS. 1-866-845-TIPS. Or you can go on to ffrankccatcrimestoppers.com. fccrimestoppersers.com what a tangled web that has been woven according to
Starting point is 00:26:29 sheriff bill leaper investigators have uncovered a lot of evidence connected to the co-worker also known as jennifer sybert for instance what have they collected other than the aliases, Lee Egan? They will not tell us. They may not be telling you, but some of what we have learned is that she also faces a federal charge of possession of a counterfeit passport, Cheryl McCollum. Nancy, again, it could be a situation where some of these jobs require a driver's license or another photo ID or a passport. She could have used that to get jobs. She could have used it because her plan was at some point to flee. Now listen to what her, and I'm talking about Kimberly Kessler's own family says they say they haven't heard from Seibert, who is Kimberly Kessler, the co-worker, in 14 years. That her parents reported her missing July 2004 while they were living in Butler County, Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:27:39 The sister says, quote, I don't know what's going on. I feel like I don't even know her. She's basically a stranger to me. The sister goes on to say the family's in shock and needs air to breathe. And the whole situation has been difficult, difficult for them. What about for the missing victim? Now, at some point, we know, and Dr. Bober, you're the psychiatrist, I need you to weigh in on this that Kimberly Kessler actually assumed the identity of a 13 year old girl who was killed in a car crash overseas and later buried in Pennsylvania we've learned that from Nassau County Sheriff Bill Leaper. Using a little girl, a dead little girl's name and assuming her identity?
Starting point is 00:28:30 Dr. Daniel Bober, that is just being a grave robber. Obviously, assuming someone's identity, you're not trying to hide the person you are. You're trying to hide the person you were. But assuming the identity of a 13-year-old girl clearly shows that this person has absolutely no remorse or conscience that will go to any level to conceal their identity. To Alan Duke joining us, what are the locations that the records show where Seibert has lived, the different cities and states? It's a very impressive tour of Florida. St. Augustine, St. Augustine Beach, St. Petersburg, Tallahassee, then into Kansas. Mission, Overland Park, Shawnee Mission, Kansas. She went to Minnesota and Rochester.
Starting point is 00:29:13 And one of my favorite cities, Nashville, Tennessee. You know, also, we've learned that she had a license with the state of Florida to be a cosmetologist. And that was registered to Tampa, which I don't think was on your list, Alan Duke. Now, we're trying to get records on her from the FBI, the DOJ, and the Pennsylvania State Police. Apparently, the FBI is building its own case against her and sending help to Nassau County detectives. But still, we don't know where is Jolene. But we fear the worst. Listen. Thank you for keeping her name out there. But I also ask that you give us some privacy. It's been a very difficult time. The majority of you have been very cordial and very helpful. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:30:13 As we grow, as we draw close to day nine that I reported my daughter missing, Sunday was a special day, not only for Mother's Day, but it was her birthday. She was born on Mother's Day. God gave me this special blessing after my firstborn infant son Richard was buried. We are all heartbroken. Jelaine's three children, her stepdad, her sisters, her brother, several aunts, uncles, cousins, myself, and all the extended family and friends. I want to sincerely thank Sheriff Bill Lieber and Director Henderson and the rest of the staff of the CID unit and Donna Thurston and members of NCSO who have been working night and day to bring my daughter home, who unfortunately still has not been located.
Starting point is 00:31:15 My daughter was a loving mother to her children, her children were her life. I need you, the news, the public, to help assist the law enforcement agencies to be their ears, to be their eyes. Someone out there, someone out there knows something. I beg you, I beg you as a mother to please keep coming forward with any information that you have, no matter how small. believes they can help locate my daughter for her my three grandchildren who miss her so much we want closure i just can't imagine to cheryl mccollum the hatred the bitterness, the drama within that tangled hair salon that leads to sheriffs believing Jolene, the mother of three little children, is dead. Over what could it possibly be? There's no telling, Nancy. It could be something that totally came from the suspect in this case that she envisioned or dreamed up or was her own madness. But whatever was in that SUV was clear enough to law enforcement that her mom has accepted it. If you listen
Starting point is 00:32:53 to the press conference, her mama says she was a loving mother. She was. She refers to her in past tense, which tells me her mother has accepted that she's no longer alive. Another disturbing fact, Cheryl McCollum, is the physical evidence. What is it? If you look at her mugshot, she clearly has a scratch on her face. And law enforcement has said the suspect in this case also has scratches on her hands, which to me are indicative of Jolene literally fighting for her life. You know, let's just think about this one moment. Lee Egan, Dr. Daniel Bober, and Cheryl
Starting point is 00:33:31 McCollum. Last seen in the hair salon. Okay. Did she ever make it out of the hair salon? Was she killed or kidnapped in her SUV? Somehow, the co-worker, Seibert, Kimberly Kessler, ended up in her SUV. So, analyzing what we know, where do you think the primary crime scene is, Cheryl McCollum? The victim's SUV. Explain. I believe whatever's in that car, law enforcement had enough to believe she's no longer living, which tells me there was enough blood in it, some type of restraint, maybe scissors from the hair salon. There's something in there that not only did law enforcement accept Jolene's not alive anymore, so did her family. As far as Kimberly Kessler, aka Jennifer Seibert, in the last hours, she has called off her hunger strike, and she's eating again. She is the prime suspect in the disappearance of a female co-worker nassau county mother jolene
Starting point is 00:34:47 cummings now why is she suddenly eating again not that i care whether she's eating lee egan but doesn't have anything to do with the finding jolene i don't think so she just decided she wanted to eat again it could be because they moved her to a different jail that she didn't want to be in. They moved her over to Duval County Jail. Once she started eating again, they moved her back to Nassau County. I can't confirm that. That's really just a guess. I think what you just said in a very, very circuitous way is that she agreed to start eating again if they would move her.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Is that what you're getting, Cheryl? No, they moved her back after she started eating. So once you're on the hunger strike, that moves you. I know, but I mean, as part of a deal, you start eating, we'll move you back. Could be. It could be. But I think she got hungry. I don't think it's any more complicated than that. Okay, every time I've ever had somebody claim they were having a hunger strike behind bars,
Starting point is 00:35:48 I found out they were secretly getting crackers and whatever they could from, you know. Straight up junk. Yeah, yeah, they were totally eating the whole time. They never lost a pound. Here we go with another failed hunger strike. To hay with her and her hunger strike and sneaking crackers or whatever she's doing all i care about is finding jolene listen to her mother begging for your help somebody knows something somebody knows something
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Starting point is 00:37:55 Get started. An Amber Alert. An urgent Amber Alert now issued for a one-year-old little boy after his mother, his mommy's remains are found buried in a plastic bag on an upstate New York farm. But where is Higgy? Little Higgy, 14-month-old Owen Hidalgo Calderon, is missing. Out to John Limley, CrimeStories.com investigative reporter. John, what can you tell me? Nancy, the relatives of Selena Hidalgo Calderon and that 14-month-old son, Owen, called police to say that they had not seen either one of them in quite some time,
Starting point is 00:38:43 and they were very worried, as you can imagine. Also missing was Selena's boyfriend, Edward Reyes. The couple had been living together in Sotus, New York, about midway between Rochester and Syracuse, working on an apple orchard. Families were left scratching their heads. They couldn't figure out what might have happened. Guys, we were talking about a missing little boy, just 14 months old. Owen Hidalgo Calderon, Higgy, is missing. His mother, a beautiful young lady, Selena Calderon, has been found dead, her body buried
Starting point is 00:39:23 near an apple orchard in Sotus, New York, near where she worked. What do we know? Police in western New York searching for a 14-month-old boy following the discovery of his mom's remains. And if you could see him, he is absolutely gorgeous. An Amber Alert now issued for Higgy. Two days after his mother Selena's body is found. She was in a plastic bag in the woods behind a Sotus apple orchard. Cheryl McCollum with the Cold Case Research Institute, that's got to be a treasure trove of evidence.
Starting point is 00:40:00 A plastic bag? Are you kidding me? It's got to be covered in DNA and fingerprints. Oh, it's the money tree for law enforcement, Nancy. But, you know, sadly, the child was not with her. So that might tell them they were killed separately at different times. And the child could be somewhere completely different, not even in the woods. Or the child could be alive and sold or given away or dumped somewhere. Selena's body badly decomposed and hidden between logs in the earth. The medical examiner, as a matter of fact, says that the body was in such bad shape,
Starting point is 00:40:40 they're still trying to determine a cause of death on the mother, Selena Calderon. But without the baby being right there, baby Higgy, where does that leave us? They were last seen on a farm. Owen was absent at daycare the following two days. Higgy was then reported missing that Sunday by Selena's mom who had not heard from her in three days which is highly highly unusual. The Amber Alert states Higgy is 14 months old, brown eyes, just two feet tall, weighing 30 pounds. He is just a tiny, tiny baby boy. Listen to what police are saying. People try to apply the presumption of innocence for this matter,
Starting point is 00:41:41 even though it's very emotional for everyone involved. The one qualifier that we didn't meet, we can't confirm that this is an abduction. We will continue to run two parallel investigations, the search for Owen and also our criminal investigation on the homicide of Selene. If you are a victim, we are going to work hard to protect you, to bring justice to you, and if you are a perpetrator, we're going to hunt you down. Let's first look at
Starting point is 00:42:05 the boyfriend um everardo race 25 now what can you tell me about surveillance video of him i'm talking about everardo this is while that search for the mother and child was underway. Officers out of the blue get a tip from a landowner near the orchard where Calderon Reyes were working. Edward Reyes was caught on a hunter's trail camera going in and out of the woods near that orchard with a shovel. Okay, well that can't be good, Cheryl McCollum. But still, I don't know where the baby is. Correct. Nancy, they've got a parallel investigation going on. Because, again, it appears that you've got two different crimes. The mother obviously being murdered and buried. But then the child, and to your point, whether the child's been sold or given away or harmed and put somewhere else,
Starting point is 00:43:08 they're running a parallel investigation here to track down where the baby is at. If you have information, please contact the Wayne County Sheriff's Office at 315-946-9711. 315-946-9711. This is what police have to say. Reyes stated he removed the deceased body of Selena from the home and buried her in the woods behind the home. Reyes made no statements to the whereabouts of Owen. Here is Selena's mother speaking. He was wonderful to take care of. He was very quiet. When they would bring him or when they would pick him up, she would always refer to him as her prince. And what will they give him to eat? She's very sad. She herself does not.
Starting point is 00:44:08 She doesn't wish to eat because she remembers the baby. Nancy Grace, Crime Stories, signing off. There's a brand new website causing a lot of trouble for people with something to hide. Have you ever had a bad feeling about somebody? Maybe suspected your partner's cheating? Maybe worried about your online reputation? If you answer yes to any of those questions, you may need Truthfinder. Public records are only recently easily available online. Before websites like Truthfinder, you'd most likely have to visit a courthouse to get that information. Now, it's as simple as entering a name. Truthfinder sifts through millions of public records from all over the country, assembling them into one easy-to-read
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