Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Nancy Grace outrage at Tot Mom Casey Anthony's AP interview

Episode Date: March 7, 2017

Casey Anthony, the Florida woman Nancy Grace dubbed “Tot Mom,” says she has no idea how her daughter Caylee died, but she has no trouble sleeping at night. Anthony’s controversial comments came ...in an Associated Press interview. Grace, who covered the search when two-year-old Caylee was missing and the acquittal of her mother on murder charges, has her own words for Anthony in this episode. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an iHeart Podcast. This is a special edition of Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Taught Mom Speaks. Haley would be 12 this year. What would she be like right now? A total badass. You were also convicted of one thing. Lying to the cops.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Right. People lie to the cops every day cops lie to people every day i'm still not even certain as i stand here today about what happened and to your understanding how did she die i don't know i don't give a shit about what anybody thinks about me i don't care about that i never will i'm okay with myself i sleep pretty good at night. By now, everyone, unless you're living in a cave, has learned that Todd Mom, Casey Anthony, has spoken, has broken her so-called silence. I'm stunned, actually, at what she has said. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. I covered the trial of top mom Casey Anthony many years ago.
Starting point is 00:01:10 In fact, I covered the missing person case when her two-year-old little girl, Kelly, went missing. I recall being one of the first ones on the story, and when I heard the facts, I... She states, quote, I sleep pretty good at night. Really? You know what? For many, many years, I have prosecuted violent felonies in which children were kidnapped or abused or murdered. And I have never once, not once, met one parent that, quote, sleeps pretty good at night after their child has been taken and murdered. No, you never quote, sleep pretty good at night.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Even now, all these years since my fiance was murdered, I don't go one week that I don't wake up in the middle of the night and wonder what he went through when he was murdered. To sleep pretty good at night. How can that be? When your child's body was found just 10 houses away from your own home, thrown away like trash, left out in the elements to decompose for possums and dogs and other animals to tear her body apart as she slept down the street. How many times would I have wondered, how often had I driven past my child's dead body? Just feet away from me. It would drive me to the brink of sanity. Yet, Totmom says, I sleep pretty good at night. Once again, it's all about her and not about her child, Kelly.
Starting point is 00:03:00 That's the way it's always been, and that's the way it is now. I want to say thanks, Simply Safe, home alarm system, home security system, for making our podcast possible. Simply Safe is something I believe in. We have been pitched a lot of products, a lot of ideas that I have next because I didn't believe in them. I do believe in Simply Safe. Simply Safe makes home security affordable. I mean, even when I was a county prosecutor, having to work two night jobs to make my house payment,
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Starting point is 00:04:08 The rest of it, you know, forget it. But what about my twins? What about that? I mean, it's not just about possessions. So I want to thank Simply Safe for making today possible. Thank you, Simply Safe. Top Mom Casey Anthony goes on to say she has no idea even now how her daughter died. Oh, really? Because at trial, her defense was she authorized her lawyers
Starting point is 00:04:36 to state that her daughter likely drowned dead in the family pool, and then blamed her father, George, who I believe to be completely innocent, of discarding the tot's body in that manner. That's what she said at trial, that Kaylee died in the family pool by accident, in a swimming accident, and instead of calling 911 or calling police or having a proper funeral,
Starting point is 00:05:05 they just decided to just throw the body out and let it decompose, be picked apart by animals. That was the defense at trial. So what, she forgot that? She forgot how her daughter died? Because that's what she said at trial. That's what her lawyer said. But in the last six years, she forgot. She doesn't remember, has no's what her lawyer said. But in the last six years, she forgot. She doesn't
Starting point is 00:05:25 remember, has no idea how her daughter died. Wow, that's certainly odd, isn't it, that you forget how your daughter died, or at least forgot what you told a jury. What I have to say to that is, it is simply more lies. I only wonder what her motivation is for coming forward. Reports are that top mom Casey Anthony tried to back out of this statement running, being printed five times. Now I see why. Casey Anthony also says that she, quote, got in trouble because she is one of the few unfortunate people to admit she lied. That is absolutely not true. She lied through her teeth to everybody she knew or seemed to love. It is unrefuted by her own words that her daughter goes missing after an argument she had with her mother. Remember, her mother, Cindy, wanted to
Starting point is 00:06:20 take the baby and raise her herself, but top mom Casey Anthony wouldn't have that. Oh no. Suddenly, her daughter, quote, goes missing, and she blames a non-existent nanny named Zenaida Gonzalez of kidnapping her daughter, and then by her own account, she goes for 30 days if your child went missing wouldn't you call police wouldn't you set up a search station wouldn't you go out run into the streets looking for your child wouldn't you but no what top mom did was lie to everybody she knew she left her parents home ostensibly with her daughter she slung up with a boyfriend she never mentioned to the boyfriend that her child was missing she didn't look for the child she didn't call police
Starting point is 00:07:12 nothing instead she went to a local store and bought sexy lingerie and a case of beer to party with her boyfriend she went to nightclubs every night, including a hot body contest. And there are photos of her in a mini skirt and a push-up bra living it up at a nightclub while her daughter is missing. It brings to mind the time I was in Babies R Us and I was stooped down, really on my knees, looking for organic sunscreen, okay? And I had John David and Lucy right beside me. And when I looked and looked through all the different offerings, I stood up, I turned around, and Lucy was there, and John David was gone. And I screamed bloody murder. My baby's gone! Lock the doors! I mean, I screamed it because I wanted to find my son then. And I will never
Starting point is 00:08:07 forget that feeling. Thank God he was just a few rows over. He had darted off to look for something. But think about it. Top Mom's own story is that the nanny, who didn't exist, kidnapped her baby and she kept it a secret from her lover, her mother, her father, her friends, her family, everybody for 30 days until her mother busted her. Remember, top mom's car got towed, and her mother got the notice in the mail and went to go get the car out of the tow area, and when she opened the car, she said, and I quote, this car smells like, the damn car smells like a dead body. That is what her own mother said. Why?
Starting point is 00:08:52 Because a dead body had been in the car. Her daughter's. So let's think about that. She says that she got in trouble because she's one of the few people that admit she lied. She didn't come out and admit. She was busted. It all started unraveling. She had been telling her parents she worked at Universal Studios,
Starting point is 00:09:14 even had an outfit of Universal's or a name tag or something, and she led police all the way to Universal, to the security gate and the security guard, and tried to get in like she worked there. She didn't. That was a lie. Cops busted her. That is how it came out she was lying. She never said, look, guys, I want to find my daughter.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I want to tell you the truth. This is what happened. That's not how it went down. Okay, let's not be confused about the facts. Well, did she think we forgot what happened at trial? She is now with an OJ defense investigator and says she empathizes with OJ Simpson. Okay, see? Now, that part I could predict.
Starting point is 00:09:56 You know, birds of a feather flock together, that whole thing. So she empathizes with OJ Simpson, who was a double killer. All right, I could just imagine those two sitting around having drinks, swapping stories about how they got away with murder. Now lately, the trial judge, who I respect a lot, has come out and said he thinks top mom Casey Anthony accidentally killed her child with chloroform. What?
Starting point is 00:10:23 You don't use chloroform on a child. That in itself is aggravated assault and a death occurred. Homemade chloroform, I don't know what Judge Belvin Perry was thinking, but you don't accidentally overdo it with the chloroform on your child's mouth and nose. That is an aggravated assault. And if a death occurs from that, that is quite simply a felony murder, a death that occurred in the commission of a felony. There's no accidental chloroforming. She, Tottenham, compares herself to Alice in Wonderland. What? I don't think Alice in Wonderland was ever accused of murder. She also blames the media. She blames everybody but herself. She's blamed her mother, her father, the media, the nanny, the this, the that. It's not the media's fault. The media
Starting point is 00:11:15 simply reported. She goes on to brag that she hangs out with friends in bars and that men buy her drinks and are attracted to her. You know, in the wake of your daughter being murdered and left dead to be, you know, bits of food for animals, I don't think this would be the time to be worried about men being attracted to you in bars and buying you drinks. I guess some things never change, right? And last, you know, when I think about my children's future, I think about what all I want to give them. I want to give them everything I never had, everything my mom and dad never had. I want them to have a chance to if they want to go to a fancy Ivy League school to not have student loans around their
Starting point is 00:12:15 necks to not have to work two and three jobs from 14 on to to make it. I dream of them being a doctor or a scientist or a lawyer or an inventor or a pianist. I dream of them doing well at piano and singing in the church choir and one day getting a graduate degree and marrying and having a family. Those are my dreams, and I hope those things for them. What does top mom say? Her daughter would be now if she had not been killed? A badass. You know, I'm not even going to comment
Starting point is 00:12:56 on that. I just say, all in all, little Kelly, rest in peace. in peace sweet girl again thank you to simply safe our sponsor joining us here on crime stories simply safe is so easy to install hence the name simply safe they've even got a video online to explain how to do it people believe they cannot afford home security well you can simply safe offers round theclock security for $14.99 a month. And right now, if you go to simplisafe.com slash Nancy, there's an additional 10% off. I've got my home armed. My mom has her home armed. You know, when you have children or anything dear to you, it makes all the sense in the world. So thank you, SimpliSafe.
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