Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Nannies from Hell leave children dead! 'Don't Be A Victim'

Episode Date: July 7, 2021

Leaving your child with a caregiver is hard for any parent. What's harder, is not having a child to come home to. Today Nancy Grace looks at cases when children die at the hands of their nanny, babysitter or daycare worker. Hear her tips so that your family won't be a victim.Joining Nancy Grace today: Doug Burns - Former Federal prosecutor, criminal defense, Tom Patire - Personal Safety Expert Dr Daniel Bober - Forensic Psychiatrist, follow on Instagram at drdanielbober Joe Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics Jacksonville State University, Author,"Blood Beneath My Feet" featured on "Poisonous Liaisons" on True Crime Network Levi Page - Investigative reporter Crime Online  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. You know, this morning when I dropped the twins off at school, I watched them till they walked all the way in. I drove off and I worried about them. That started the first time we had a babysitter. Because no matter how much you think you know other people, you can be proven wrong. And I'm talking about daycare disasters and babysitters straight from hell.

Today, what can we learn from other crime victims, parents who wish they had made a different decision? Don't be a victim. Fight back against America's crime wave. This book is not to instill fear in you. This book is to arm you with information to potentially save your life and protect your children. You know what? When I gave birth, I vowed that day that I would spend the rest of my life doing everything I can to protect my children. And I know you feel the same way. First of all, take a listen to this. emergency. How's this, um, a baby? He's barely breathing. I think he choked on his vomit. Okay. Sorry. Can you turn him over? How? All right. He's barely breathing. He's not focusing with his eyes. Is he breathing or not breathing? Barely. Just make sure he keeps breathing there,

ma'am. Oh my God, stop breathing. He's making, oh my God. I cannot even stand to listen to that. It hurts me so much to think of baby Maddie dying. Take a listen to our friend Bill Curtis, American Justice. When paramedics arrived, Woodward led them to the dining room where eight-month-old Matthew Eapen was lying unconscious on the floor. The infant was gasping for breath and jerking uncontrollably. While the paramedics tried to stabilize Matthew, Woodward paged the baby's mother, Deborah, again.

This time she made contact and told her what was happening. Matthew was rushed to Children's Hospital in Boston. The boy's parents were both doctors who worked nearby. They arrived at the emergency room within minutes. Five days after being admitted to Children's Hospital in Boston, baby Maddie died. I can't do anything about that, but I can analyze what happened while he was there alone with his British nanny, the au pair. So it doesn't happen again. With me, an all-star panel to break it down and put it back together again, Doug Burns, former federal prosecutor, now defense attorney, Fox contributor, joining me out of Manhattan, Dr. Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist.

You can find him on Insta at Dr. Daniel Bober. He's the chief of psychiatry, Memorial Regional Healthcare System, professor of forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My Feet, and the star of a new show, Poisonous Liaisons on True Crime Network, Joe Scott Morgan, Tom Pateri, America's leading personal safety expert and author of Tom Pateri's personal protection handbook, which is awesome. Dr. Free Ann Hess, child safety expert, physician, founder of PeteyMom.com and the Petey Mom podcast. But first, to Levi Page, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter.

Let's first talk about baby Matty Eapen and the nanny that killed him that was found guilty by a jury, Louise Woodward. Is it true that she would leave the family home where she was supposed to be living and would go see a Broadway show? I believe it was Rent almost 30 times. You're correct, Nancy. And this 19-year-old British nanny, Louise Woodward, she had worked previously for another family in the suburbs of Boston, but she thought that that was too far away from Boston for her to enjoy the Boston nightlife. So she took a job with the Eapen family in Newton, Massachusetts, and they complained that she was out all the time, out into the wee hours of the morning. And when it came time to watch baby Matthew, that she wasn't ready many times. And they complained about her. They told her to get in shape or they were going to have to fire her. And then right after that, baby Maddie is shaken,

according to experts, until he suffered shaken baby syndrome. ultimately baby Maddie died. Let me go straight out to Joseph Scott Morgan, professor of forensics, death investigator. Explain what I mean by shaken baby syndrome. With shaken baby syndrome, Nancy, this is something that you commonly see with caretakers that express their frustration with not being able to manage a child, quieten a child. So what they will do literally is grab the child many times by their shoulders and they will shake them vigorously. And this can lead to all kinds of damage to particularly the neuro system. We're talking about the brain where the brain is kind of literally sloshing around inside of the skull. There's also evidence that this can lead to things like detached retinas. There have been kids that have been placed into deep comas and obviously children that have eventually died as well.

To Dr. Free and Hess, physician, child safety expert, and you can find Dr. Hess at PD, as in pediatrician, PDmom.com. Dr. Hess, again, thank you for being with us. What are the signs of shaken baby syndrome? There are actually quite a few. Sometimes they can be subtle, depending on how often and how often it's happening and how extreme it is during that episode. Oftentimes the child will appear tired, fussy, seem overly cranky, which actually makes things worse because oftentimes this is due to a baby crying and a frustrated caregiver. And so they then shake them and they become more irritable crying. They start vomiting. Oftentimes they can start becoming depressed, meaning that they are sluggish. They can become floppy. They can start becoming depressed, meaning that they are sluggish.

They can become floppy. They can have difficulty breathing. And if it becomes severe enough, they can go into a coma and they can die. Shaken baby syndrome, also known as shaken impact syndrome, is a serious, serious form of abuse inflicted on a child. It occurs when a caregiver or parent shakes the baby violently and the brain is going back and forth against the inside of the skull. And Joe Scott Morgan, it's my understanding that because the brain is hitting up against the inside of the skull, the brain starts to swell. And at some point, if you don't put a shunt or a hole in the top of the head with a tube in it to release the pressure and to somewhat open the skull for the brain to

swell and then subside then the baby will either be profoundly handicapped due to the brain swelling up against the skull and being damaged, or the baby will die. Yeah, Nancy, and this leads to what's kind of a congestive event in the brain. The brain, you know, keep in mind, the skull is very static. It's absolutely static. It's a bony structure. And then you've got this soft, malleable, pliable organ that's contained therein, and it begins to swell and press against the side. So, you know, you were referring to placing the shunt. This literally relieves the pressure. The Eapens, Maddie Eapen's parents, both doctors, they vetted Louise Woodward very heavily.

She came from a very well-to-do, well-known, prestigious nanny. How can I say? Firm. She had the British accent. She had, they thought, the education. But what she didn't have is skills with the baby. Baby Maddie dead. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How can you protect your child?

That is what we are talking about right now. And in my book, took two years to research, study, and write this for you. You just heard a scary but true story about Louise Woodward and baby Maddie. To top it all off, the mom, Deborah Eapen, got reams of hate mail because she worked. Yes, because she had a job as a physician. She reduced the time she went to work so she could come home and breastfeed and be with baby Maddie. She was working a couple of half days, but people still attacked her because she was a working mom. Can you imagine losing your baby and then being the subject of hateful trolls? That is what she has endured. And just so you know, the trial judge, even after the jury returned a guilty verdict, Judge Hillard Zobel, as I recall his name being, let the nanny, Louise Woodward, walk free. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

I want to touch on daycare workers, caregivers that come into your home and when you leave your child at their home. Take a listen to our friend Heather Lee at KMEG Fox 44. October 29, 33-year-old Rochelle Sapp was watching three-year-old Autumn Eldersma at her in-home daycare center. According to newly released court documents, Sapp called Autumn's mother around nine o'clock that morning to tell her Autumn had fallen down the stairs. She said she would keep a close eye on Autumn and give her some Tylenol. Not even 20 minutes later, Sapp called Autumn's mother again to tell her Autumn was, quote, way out of it and that she thought her neck was hurt. Autumn's mother rushed to Sapp's house. Autumn was taken to Orange City Hospital, but because her injuries were so bad, she was airlifted to a hospital in Sioux Falls.

Doctors there diagnosed her with a skull fracture and brain swelling. She died of her injuries October 31st. Sapp's initial claim that Autumn fell down the stairs didn't match up with a medical opinion that the little girl's injuries were not consistent with that kind of fall. Sapp later told police she threw the girl down hard on the floor, causing her to hit her head because she was frustrated with Autumn, who was having trouble getting her jacket off. To my longtime colleague and personal friend, Doug Burns. Doug, I know you're a high-profile criminal defense attorney now, but you were once a federal prosecutor,

and you have raised and helped raise plenty of children, okay? So if you could, for me, as a favor, take off your defense hat. How dare she throw this baby girl down the stairs because the baby girl loved her new coat and did not want to take her coat off. She threw her down the stairs and she died. Another thing, here's my question, Doug, not hypothetical, not rhetorical, but have you noticed, because I have noticed it, all the years I prosecuted, all the different trials, it'd be murder, drugs, rape, bank robbery. I noticed, Doug, that when the victim is a child, more often you see cheap plea deals.

And I don't know why that is. You get an infant that's murdered or a little girl like Autumn, and somehow it always goes down to voluntary manslaughter. Not me. Oh, H-E-L-L-N-O. But I did notice overall that when the victim is a child, the plea deal is cheaper. Did you ever notice that? You know, it's interesting because I was studying the materials and so forth, you know, for this morning. That's why you win all your cases, Doug Burns, because you are a worker. Go ahead.

Yep. Well, I appreciate that. You know, basic old school work ethic. Learned that from my late father. But the point is, in studying, I was saying to myself, because, you know, a lot of what I've spent my time in is, you know, white collar and financial crime and so on. I've been in some organized crime, not so much this area, but, you know, I've worked with you for years. You know, it's been fantastic on these type of issues. But the point is, I was saying to myself,

geez, these sentences seem extremely low. In back to the case that you mentioned with Louise Woodward. I mean, that judge let her leave prison after something like two hundred and thirty nine days. And I'm scratching my head saying, what is the story with that? But to your question and to your point, I definitely have noticed a trend, which is yes. And it's probably, you know, I would defer to the physicians and psychiatrists. They're not in court, Doug. You're in court. Human nature. And I need an answer.

Some type of human nature point. Yeah, some type of human nature point about how, you know, the victim is an infant versus a full-grown adult. But to tell you the truth, I find it surprising as you raised it, Nancy. It's true. And I noticed it emphatically as a prosecutor. And now, and Burns is pointing outatically as a prosecutor and now. And Burns is pointing out that even a judge did it. When Doe Burns said the judge let Louise Woodward out after 200 plus days, she got time served.

That's how long she had been in waiting for trial since baby Maddie died. She walked out of the courthouse to Dr. Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist, chief of psychiatry, Memorial Regional Healthcare System. Dr. Bober, I think it's because very often when you have child homicide or infant homicide, the perp is a woman. I mean, think about top mom Casey Anthony, just an example. People look at her and they think, oh, she's a top mom Casey Anthony, just an example. People look at her and they think, oh, she's a young mom. She would never do that. It's ingrained in us because we think of our mother, our own mother. And when you think of a mother, you don't think of killing a

child. So when you have a woman defendant, very often they get a break because of their gender. That's what I think, Dr. Bober. Yes, absolutely, Nancy. There really is a gender differential reaction. People do react differently to different sexes for sure. And, you know, in these types of cases, you know, this is everyone's worst nightmare. But people, you know, get these nannies and they do background checks on them and you think you, you know, you can trust it, but you really can't because you just don't know what's in their background and what has not been discovered as of yet.

To Tom Pateri, America's leading personal safety expert, author of Tom Pateri's personal protection handbook, which is awesome. Tom, in the book, Don't Be a Victim, Fight Back Against America's Crime Wave, I talk about how to keep your child safe from hellish daycare providers. Now, knowing what I know and seeing what I've seen, I constantly, and when the children especially were too young to tell me what was going on, did surprise visits at the daycare. Don't laugh, Pateri.

But very often, my husband wanted me to get in daycare. You know, fine. I threw a fit, but finally I'm like, okay, I'll go two days a week, two hours at a time. I was so worried because they'd scream bloody murder when I would leave. And I would very often sit in the parking lot and you be quiet because I don't want to hear any snickering from you over there in the corner. I would sit in the parking lot and work because I was in the middle of writing a book at that time. And I'd bring a towel in case it was raining. And I would very often go up to the window where they were and look in. And at first, I think the teachers were a little afraid.

But after that, they got used to it. Because I didn't trust them. What are your suggestions for keeping your children safe? Like with Autumn, she was at an in-home daycare where a woman kept children in her home, which sometimes are unlicensed. What is your suggestion for parents? Well, first of all, you bring up some great points. I went through that too with my son, you know, as parents were providers, were caregivers, but most of all were protectors. So one of the things that I always teach my parents to do that I train is, listen, you walk into a daycare facility, don't look at it from your eyes. Look at it from a child's eyes. So get

down low on your size, you know, to your knees. Look at what things could be obstacle or hurting devices for a child. The second thing, which you did naturally, is keep them in spotlight. Make sure they know you're over-concerned. Make sure that you call at random times. Make sure you check and balance on unpredictable times. By keeping them in spotlight, keep them on their toes, and understand that, you know, this baby, your child, is the most precious thing on life for you as well as for them. Well put, Tom and Terry. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about don't be a victim. How can you protect your children? Here's just a few. I mean, I got carried away. The more I would work on a chapter, the more ideas I would have, the more tips I would find from other professionals like you're hearing right now. For instance, oh, make sure the provider does not include anyone under qualified to take care of

your children. What is the pickup policy? Does the provider have written policies on medication? Here's a good one. Don't have a pool or pond anywhere near the play area, period. I nearly did a backflip when our little Methodist church put a little pond in the play area for the children. I spoke to them on a level that they would understand. I said, you're going to get sued, okay. Not by me because my children know how to swim, but by the family where this child is going to fall in that end up upside down under the water, even though it's not deep, they got rid of that pronto. Thank goodness. Uh, see background checks on every person working

there who should be checked? Everybody. Run vehicle checks for their history. Do you want somebody that has had multiple crashes and it was their fault? Are mail repairmen or service providers on the premises often? If other parents are allowed to visit, are they ever alone with your child? Could the daycare center provide references from other parents are allowed to visit, are they ever alone with your child? Could the daycare center provide references from other parents? They should. And if they get angry when you ask, then you're at the wrong place.

Is there a qualified health professional for the provider? Do they have written policies on medication? Which leads me to the next story, a true story. Listen to our friend Nathaniel Reid, NBC5. Brenda Colburn received news no grandparent wants to hear. I got a call from my daughter. I work at the hospital, and she said, are you still at work? And I said no, and she said, well, Harper's going to the hospital.

Brenda's six-month-old granddaughter, Harper Rose Breyer, died on January 24th. During that time, all I kept telling myself was I needed to be strong for my daughter and her fiancé at the time because they needed that strength. They needed me to be there and be strong for them. Court documents say Harper died after ingesting more than a standard dose of an over-the-counter antihistamine and sedative while in the care of a daycare program run by Stacey Valancourt. She is now facing manslaughter and child cruelty charges. Straight out to our CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter, Levi Page.

What happened to Harper Rose? So Nancy, this is a case out of Rutland, Vermont, and Harper Rose Breyer is six months old. A little baby was found unresponsive while in the care of 53-year-old Stacey Valancourt. She ran a child care facility out of her home. She called 911. Paramedics came, got the baby, rushed the baby to the ER. The baby died. And an autopsy report showed that baby Harper was given a fatal amount of antihistamines by Valancourt. The antihistamine is diphenhydramamine, and it's used to treat cold and allergy symptoms, but it also sedates you when you take it. And this is a drug, and it says this on the warning label, that you do not give it to infants unless a doctor advises someone to give it to an infant.

But this baby Harper had this drug in her system. Oh, man, she didn't just have it in her system. She had a ton of it in her system. And I'll tell you why the baby got the Benadryl, because the daycare wanted her doped up to go to sleep so they wouldn't have to take care of her. Listen to this. And I write about Harper Rose Breyer in the book on page 78. As much as the EMTs and others tried, they could not revive baby Harper. Mommy couldn't understand what happened. Harper had been perfectly fine that morning.

The final autopsy reports state Harper was found unresponsive. Extremely high concentrations of the main ingredient in Benadryl. Prosecutors allege Valancourt sedated an otherwise beautiful, happy, healthy six-month-old child where the baby could not lift her head and die. When Valancourt's legal team says she is not guilty, 40 supporters of Harper were there, all of them wearing pink t-shirts saying, justice for Harper Rose. I end the segment by saying as i go about my days and nights taking care of the twins i think about harper's mom and dad they are making t-shirts and planning the next court date and remembering their little girl joe scott morgan

explain what benadryl does to a child uh Yeah, Nancy, it is an antihistamine, which means that it will essentially knock those allergies down. It will enable you to get a decent night's rest. Your eyes are not going to be as runny and congested. But this is the problem with a baby. For instance, most of the time, and to the best of my knowledge, it's applied with a dropper. It comes in a liquid form. And what happens when you overdose a little baby whose system is so

very fragile, Nancy, it leads to things like, like a respiratory failure, for instance, because it slows the breathing so much. It also slows the heart rate, which is very, very dangerous. We hear about hypertension. This can make a baby hypotensive. And so their blood pressure will drop out, and suddenly you have a child that's in full cardiac arrest. Well, baby Harper, I'm sad to say, is not the only child that died in this manner. Take a listen to our friend Marissa Alter-Bronx, News 12. Police say Carol Cardillo

ran an unlicensed daycare out of her home on Edgewood Road for 11 years. Adam had only been in her care for 11 days when he died in March 2016. What his parents thought was SIDS, an autopsy revealed to be a deadly overdose of Benadryl. Court had bought 90 bottles of over three years, mostly want the court to know th that this happened to a b He was a beautiful little statement. She never apol

Siegel's parents. She tol always tried to lead a ki I ask you, Your Honor, to use your best judgment, wisdom, compassion, and mercy, not only for myself, but for my husband. I don't even want to hear what she has to say. The baby is dead, and she can go on and on and on about how compassionate she is, but the baby is dead, doped up on Benadryl. Did you hear that? That's well over, gosh, 90 bottles. That's between one and three gallons of Benadryl.

What, is she taking that herself? To our friend, Dr. Free and Hess Physician, child safety expert, founder of PD Mom. It's in pediatrician, PDMom.com and the PDMom podcast. Dr. Hess, explain to me how Benadryl and babies don't mix and how you can stop a daycare provider from doping your child up. Yeah, so just so that everybody understands, we actually don't suggest Benadryl in children even under six without speaking to a physician first. And especially in children under one, even when I see children in the pediatric emergency room, if they're under one, I'm still a little concerned to give it myself, nevermind for anybody else. So absolutely this medication should not have been given to children of that age, any infant. It can cause seizures, arrhythmias, coma, death.

I mean, it's really, really concerning. We don't know how the metabolism works for kids. A lot of times under six months of age, they don't metabolize medications the same, which is why we're a lot more cautious with them. And this particular medicine can be very dangerous. So absolutely, one of the things I think parents need to be sure of is that they're confirming with the daycare worker that they're absolutely not to give any medication without a discussion first and without a physician's approval. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

Guys, how can you protect your child from daycare dangers and babysitters, nannies from hell? What I'm talking to you about today is really the tip of the iceberg because I spend pages and pages and pages devoted to this subject. And don't be a victim. These are just the tips of the icebergs in protecting your child. Take a listen to Courtney Cole, CBS 47, Jacksonville. TSO says they were called out to the center just after one this afternoon. When they arrived, they tried to help JFRT resuscitate the unconscious infant who wasn't breathing while in a car seat. The child was immediately taken to the hospital. Love and hope, preschool, daycare, anything but. And that baby girl's not the only one.

Listen to our friends at KATV News. Police describe the disregard for safety protocols as reckless. The family wouldn't be planning a funeral. They would be waiting for Christopher to get home this afternoon. But police say four employees didn't do their jobs. The driver, Felicia Phillips, and her assistant, Pamela Robinson, were responsible for unloading the kids, who were then supposed to be checked off a list by transportation supervisor Wanda Taylor when they walked in the classroom. She actually checked him in as being in the classroom, though he never made it into the classroom. Kendra Washington was the fourth line of defense. She's supposed to go outside and lick in the van. So the daycare had all these precautions.

This one is supposed to get the children out of the van. This one is supposed to check the van. This one is supposed to check the children in as they come in the door. This one is supposed to go out and search the van again. That's odd. Five levels of protocol and they were all totally ignored. And yet another baby at daycare dies in a hot van. Speaking of in-home nannies and babysitters,

you got to do a background check. They're easy to do. You can actually do them online. If the babysitter won't give you a full name in DOB, you got the wrong candidate. Also, make sure you look at their social media. You don't want somebody out sucking on a bong or driving drunk with a bottle in their hand in the car. You can learn so much. You, it's on you. You, parent, it's your duty to check out who is with your children. Not just the babysitters, but the teachers at school too. You know I've checked every one of my teachers out for my children.

That's twins and they're in different classes. That's a lot of teachers. Same thing goes for credit check. Trust me, you may think I'm going overboard. You'll thank me later. Don't judge a book by its cover. Please don't. These daycares, teachers and in-home babysitters, they look great. The babies are dead.

Don't judge the book by the cover. Look them up on social media. Ask friends, neighbors, or co-workers for recommendations. You can do initial screenings over the phone. I will never forget the first babysitters I was getting for the twins. When we would be in Atlanta, they sounded great on the phone. Their recommendations look great. I met with them, their three sisters, they stunk to high heaven of nicotine. Now, you know, babies that are exposed to nicotine have a higher chance of SIDS, sudden infant death syndrome. I said, hey, do y'all smoke? And they went, no. So, you know, I believe I said we were just in somewhere and everybody was smoking. Okay. So I just had a feeling I met with them again. They stunk of smoke again, all three of them.

Number one, they were lying. And number two, if they were too dumb to chew gum and change clothes, they're not smart enough to keep the children. I can tell you that right now. If possible, interview with a husband, partner, or friend. They may pick up on things you don't. Oh yeah, here it is. Smell them. The last thing you want is somebody that smells or reeks a pot or alcohol taking care of your baby, before you formally hire them, get that background check. Don't be embarrassed. Get a nanny cam. Don't even get me started about how many people have caught babysitters and daycare workers dragging their children around, slapping them in the face, typically in-home nanny cams. I vote for live streaming in daycare.

Nobody's listening to me. They even have live streaming where they take care of your cat and dog. Why not your baby? Try the nanny for a short while, a week or so. Make it clear it's a test run. Make sure your nanny knows CPR and first aid. Check the driving history. You don't want your nanny or your babysitter driving your child around when they have a driving history as long

as my left arm. Take a listen to Dominique Sasha, KPRC. Smoke pouring from a home daycare. They're dying. I can't see anything. I can't even go in there and get something. The chilling call to 911. Oh my God, see this? And the daycare owner, Jessica Tata, arrested, charged, and sent to prison for 80 years after leaving a group of children alone with a pan of grease on the stove

while she went shopping. Four of the seven children inside that daycare died. Tiffany Dickerson had two children at Jessica Tata's daycare on February 24th, 2011. Her three-year-old son, Shamari, never made it out. But her daughter, Michaela, then two years old, survived but was severely burned. I pulled back the sheet and she looked like a peeled lobster. All I saw was flesh, and I was just thinking to myself, like, I don't know how they're going to save her legs. Michaela was rushed to Shriners Hospital in Galveston, where Tiffany credits the medical team with saving Michaela's legs

and placing her on a path to recovery. I don't want you to be upset. I'm getting upset just hearing this, but what I want you to do is take action and protect your children. I know we don't want to think that the babysitter or the nanny or the daycare could be negligent like this woman was, Tata, who actually went to Target. She wasn't even in a hurry, according to the shop, to the salespeople. She's just taking her time, leaving all those children at home with a stove on and a pan of hot grease. If you think you've heard it all, I hate to be the one to break it to you. You haven't.

Take a listen to our friends at ABC GMA. This morning, a mother is suing over troubling footage showing preschoolers taking part in what she calls a toddler fight club. In the 2016 video, teachers are seen cheering the young children on. One jumps enthusiastically while the other helps students put on toy fists. One little boy on camera tries to break up the fight. Get off the way! The incident came to light after a 10-year-old boy captured this video on his iPad, showing his 4-year-old brother allegedly being forced to fight with another student. They're fighting.

If he wouldn't have had his iPad on him that day, who knows if we even would have found out about this. The boy's mother, Nicole Murseel, immediately reported the incident to the school and to authorities. But while the two teachers seen in the video were fired, the state did not file any criminal charges. No one's being held accountable. And if I'm not a voice for my children, who will be? Now Murseel is suing the daycare for more than $25,000 and hopes the state will reconsider filing charges.

A taught fight club led by the teachers. Don't be a victim. Don't let your children be victims. They can't speak for themselves. Fight back against America's crime wave. Nancy Grace, Crime Story, signing off. Goodbye, friend. This is an iHeart Podcast.