Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - New Details emerge about cabin-prison, strewn with filthy sheets, where kidnapped Jayme Closs held captive

Episode Date: January 14, 2019

A look Inside the remote cabin where a 21-year-old Wisconsin man allegedly held Jayme Closs hostage for 87 days reveals disturbing details of what the 13-year-old endured. Nancy Grace looks at the latest in the case against Jake Thomas Patterson. Nancy's experts include former federal prosecutor Francey Hakes, North Carolina family and divorce lawyer Kathleen Murphy, New York psychologist Caryn Stark, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan, and Crime Stories reporter John Lemley. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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any more comments about this to protect the integrity of the case. At this time, nothing in this case shows the suspect knew anyone at the Kloss home or at any time had contact with anyone in the Kloss family. The suspect had specific intentions to kidnap Jamie and went to great lengths to prepare to take her. The suspect did work at the Jenny O. Turkey plant over three years ago for less than two days and does not appear to have any contact, did not have any contact with Jamie's parents, who also worked at the turkey plant.

You are hearing the very latest. That's from the Barron County Sheriff Chris Fitzgerald at a presser. Today, the man who targets a teen girl murders both her mom and her dad and takes her leaving behind no trace keeping her in a squalid cabin for nearly three months 88 days is in court for a first appearance this is details emerging about the squalid cell strewn with filthy sheets stuffed toys a, a Monopoly game, where this 21-year-old loner kept this little girl, a prisoner, in the Wisconsin woods. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. With me, veteran trial lawyer, family and divorce lawyer Kathleen Murphy, New York psychologist, Karen Stark at

karenstark.com, Francie Hakes, former federal prosecutor, czar of child recovery and child protection for the federal government, renowned forensics expert, author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, Joseph Scott Morgan, professor ofnsics, Jacksonville State University. Joining me right now, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter John Limley. John, first of all, why is the perp, the alleged perp, in court today? This is his first court appearance since being arrested on Thursday. And over the weekend, authorities have been scrambling to learn more and more about this rather unremarkable guy. Unremarkable until the night in October that he killed Jamie Closs's parents and abducted the young child, the 13-year-old. What can you tell us about him? What do we know right now, John Limley?

Well, we know that Jake Thomas Patterson grew up in Gordon. It's a sprawling township of just several hundred people tucked into an evergreen forest. It's about 35 miles south of Lake Superior. It's wild country. Roadside signs admonish motorists to share the pavement with ATVs, of which there are more than cars. The few neighbors who know Patterson's family say that he grew up in a cabin in a remote development that's a mix of year-round residents and people that are just there during the summer. It's about 10 miles outside of the proper city limits of Gordon. Patterson's high school teachers barely even remember the now 21-year-old man who graduated only three years ago

and say they didn't realize that he still lived in the area. Wow. We are learning that in that squalid cabin, there was a guide, a military guide to survival. There was a Monopoly game set up on the floor. What more do we know about the cabin where he allegedly kept the teen girl, Jamie Closs, prisoner for 88 days? What more do we know, John Limley? It's a rather ramshackle cabin. Visitors, when you first walk up, there's a battered sign above the home's front door that reads Patterson's Retreat because it's been in the family for some time. Another one says welcome, but the grounds are littered with junk cars, rusty bikes, and garbage. And the cabin's insides are rather tattered, too. In fact, in the main living space, the living area,

the living room, and the kitchen, it's just bare insulation that's over the ceiling. It's just a tangle of a mess, really. It just looks like no one has really cared for the property in quite some time. Strung with stuffies, that's what we call little stuffed animals, soft toys, filthy bedding and sheets, women's clothes. It is a squalid prison. The den has a scruffy mattress, cuddly stuffed pig. Is that what she looked at every day, looking at that exposed insulation? There were kids' backpacks piled up in one corner. I'm looking at the photos right now that I have spotted on Daily Mail. It's just a big, huge mess. This guy's creepy lair right now, it is under intense scrutiny to forensics expert and professor of forensics, Jacksonville State University, Joseph Scott Morgan. What are they doing right now?

The whole place is still cordoned off. Right now they're going through this place room by room, foot by foot, inch by inch, documenting every item in this cabin, Nancy. And also, they're looking for traces of what the life would have been like for them existing in here for 88 days. Looking for tiebacks relative to this little girl in that cabin. Remember, she was found outside of the cabin. I'm sure that the defense attorneys will make hay over this. Was she actually ever there?

That sort of thing. So they'll be looking for trace evidence that would tie back to her specifically and anything else that might give them an indication as to what was going on in that cabin. Well, this is what else we know. DeFrancie Hakes, former federal prosecutor, appointed as the czar for the federal government regarding bringing children home that have been abducted or mistreated.

Francie, we know that the people that found her wandering, a retired social worker, she said that she takes her to a home, says, bam's on the door. This is Jamie Closs. Call 911. They immediately get the girl in and say, get a gun because they understood it was conveyed to them that this perv was out looking for her, that he had figured out she had escaped. He was out looking for her and he had already killed a mom and a dad for no reason. People apparently, he didn't even know. He'd already gunned them down. So the first thing they do is they say, get a gun.

He's out looking for her. Well, Nancy, I think this is one of the scariest things about this whole ordeal for this poor child. She thinks she's being rescued, and her rescuers feel like they are now at risk and they were apparently this offender was literally hunting for jamie after she escaped just like he had hunted for her from the beginning when he burst into her parents home killed her parents in cold blood, and snatched her away to this disgusting remote cabin. It's just awesome. I sat on this couch a couple months ago, and you said you would never stop giving up hope, and now here we are. What was it? Hope? Prayers? It's not, yeah, prayers from our family. We got prayers from everybody.

I mean, everybody telling us they're praying for us, praying for us. And, you know, it's the power of prayer, and it worked. I mean, how she got out, we don't know that yet. But, you know, it wasn't just on her own. So, yeah, it was amazing in this community. I mean, if it wasn't for everybody posting posters and doing everything to help us, every little thing that helped, we may not be doing this right now. So, big thank you to everybody.

21-year-old Jake Patterson lives down the road behind me. Eau Claire Acres here in the city of Gordon. It's believed the house that is owned by his father is where he held 13-year-old Jamie Kloss captive for 88 days. We do know that Patterson worked in the city of Barron for at least two days. The city of Barron is where Jamie is from at the city's largest employer, the Jenny O. Plant. That's also the place where Jamie's parents work, but right now authorities do not believe that Patterson

and her parents crossed paths there. Now we do know that Patterson has no criminal history here in the state of Wisconsin. He went to school nearby. The superintendent of Northwood School says Patterson was a quiet but good student who had great friends. Dr. Jean Sarum says Patterson was a member of the Quiz Bowl team that competed against other schools in the area. The house where Jamie was taken after she escaped

from Patterson was the home of his middle school teacher. She says he was 11 or 12 when he was in her class. Yeah, and I actually didn't even know he lived in my neighborhood. We're relatively new to this neighborhood, so until Jamie says Jake Patterson, I would have had no idea. I guess just disbelief, kind of shock that a kid that we all knew could have done this. Shock is right. And it was shocking and wonderful when Jamie Closs was recovered. Today, her alleged kidnapper and the murderer of both of her parents in court. You were hearing Ms. Kacinkas, who first called 911, his middle school teacher, the woman that first encountered Jamie Closs wandering outside in the cold, filthy, skinny,

her hair matted, wearing shoes too big for her feet. That woman, the retired social worker, literally saved her life. When they take her to this home, bamming on the door, they immediately say, get a gun because they know this guy is hunting for her. A Quiz Bowl team member, quiet. What more do we know about this guy we also know that according to the sheriff jamie claus's parents were killed because they were a quote barrier to her kidnapping you don't think they would have gunned down that he would have gunned down those neighbors to get her back

i've got no doubt in my mind that he would k Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina family divorce lawyer, Karen Stark, New York psychologist, Francie Hakes, former federal prosecutor, Joe Scott Morgan, forensics expert, and John Limley, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter to Karen Stark. What are you hearing in psychological speak about this guy, a loner, a white male. Boy, we're not surprised about that. Statistically, that's normally the case. But taking her to this remote cabin, it's a town of about 645 people, about 80 miles from Barron, Wisconsin, where she was kidnapped in her home.

And, you know, Karen, ever since this has happened, don't laugh. I've been sleeping in the room with the twins. I know it's crazy. I know it's crazy. I know this is an isolated incident, but I just can't take it in that this guy with no connection to that family at all, they keep making a big deal out of the fact that he worked one day at the Genio processing plant where her parents had worked for many, many years, but there's no indication whatsoever they ever even crossed paths. He had to have seen her at one of her dance events or cross-country running she did that too with her school maybe somehow through the church but they couldn't have gone to the same church because he's 80 miles

away so how did he come how did he find her to target her and what are you learning karen start what's your interpretation when the sheriff says her parents, her mother and father, the ones she loved the most, now dead, were killed because they were a, quote, barrier to her kidnapper? Nancy, how many times do we hear about a supposedly quiet, good neighbor. People are shocked. And it's somebody who is ruthless, who has, I mean, this guy did anything that he possibly could to kidnap this girl. He used a shotgun to crash through the lock in that door and get to her. So he was desperate to have her. And obviously, he targeted her and she had to be his. He had to own her and take her to his home. I have no doubt if he had found her, this would be a totally different scenario and she would not be with

us right now. It's amazing that she was able to escape from that situation. To Francie Hakes, former federal prosecutor, the statistics are very, very bleak. We're talking about stranger abduction, not parental abduction. The noncustodial parent nuts up and takes a child or an aunt or an uncle. We're talking about stranger abductions. It's up around the 75 percentile that the child is killed within the first three hours after abduction, once they've been raped, essentially. Then when you get to the 24-hour mark, it jumps up to the 80s. 80-plus percent of children and stranger and stranger abductions are killed in the first 24 hours, Francie.

So I agree with Karen Stark. If he had found her and he was out looking for her in his car, that's how the cops found him so quickly. She described his car. He had found out she had gotten away and was out hunting for her like an animal, Francie. Nancy, this guy is so frightening. And I think the most important thing for people to remember is that we don't, all the people in our society, and unfortunately there's too many of them, like this guy, who are predators,

don't have some kind of a P for predator emblazoned across their forehead. They look like everyone else. Child abusers look like everyone else. We have to go beyond what they look like and instead look to their behavior. I can't believe there weren't some sort of sign ahead of time that he was sexually interested in children. In fact, I would stake my reputation that their police are going to find in his place some kind of images of the sexual abuse of children, indicating that that has been a sexual interest of his for some time. And that's the motivation for why he took Jamie Closs. And of course, Kathleen Murphy, Francie Hakes is not off target because the primary motivation for stranger-on-stranger abductions is sexual.

That's a shame. That is such a shame. You know what I'm hoping for, Nancy, at this very moment? What? I'm hoping that this child's face is removed from social media and I'm hoping this child's face is forgotten by the public and that she can merge into a quiet life because what she's been through or what I think she's been through is going to be very difficult for her without her mom. I think you're so right. I mean, it's hard enough raising.

Take her off of social media. Raising a child in this world of pressure and peer pressure, much less with what she has going on in her head. Amount of trash thrown beside the garage, empty bottles of alcoholic drinks, cranberry and lime Smirnoff ice, Henry's hard soda, black cherry white claw, discarded bags of chips. This is what police are finding where he allegedly held this child captive. Listen.

You said that you're just in the right place. Yeah. What was the first thing she said to you? She just said, I'm lost and I don't know where I am and I need help. Did she say who she was? Yeah. When she got near me and I could see who she was, she told me I'm Jamie. Was she frantic?

What was her... She was scared. But then when she, you know, know i stayed calm so she stayed calm you know i didn't grab her and run off through the woods um which would have been maybe a instinct but no i just held on to her and i said we're gonna find somebody who's home we're gonna call the police you're gonna be okay you're gonna be safe everything's gonna be fine you're gonna be fine i just kept saying that do you think she felt that from you? I hope she felt it from me and from Peter and Kristen. And you know, they have a very warm, comforting home and they have two kids and two dogs. And

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Crime stories with Nancy Grace. This is Jamie Claussen. Call 911. Those were the first words Peter Kaczynski heard when he opened his front door. In a phone call, he told us his neighbor was walking her dog in this remote area of Gordon, Wisconsin Thursday afternoon when Klaus appeared. The neighbor took the girl to Kaczynski's home. Literally like I was seeing a ghost because we've seen the billboards and the commercials and all that stuff. And there she is in my kitchen. You are hearing from rescuer Peter Kaczynski talking to CBS News correspondent Adriana Diaz that he couldn't believe that she was there in his kitchen and she looked like a ghost. Filthy, hair matted. She's too big for her.

You know, here's the reality. There's been a lot of internet trolling, a lot of hate talk about Jamie Closs, believe it or not, just so upsetting. I mean, you know, when it's one of us guys, we're adults, we're putting ourselves out there by being on crime stories, by being on Sirius, by commenting. This girl did not ask for this. This young girl did not ask for this. She's only a year and a half older than my twins. And she is being speculated about that she was part of her own parents' murder. Why would she be filthy with matted hair, skinny as if she hadn't eaten? She didn't even have shoes to wear.

Didn't take her cell phone with her. Didn't take anything with her. matted hair, skinny as if she hadn't eaten. She didn't even have shoes to wear. Didn't take her cell phone with her. Didn't take anything with her. The door was kicked in. Apparently, John Lindley with Crime Stories, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter, he went loaded for bear with a shotgun and murdered her parents with a shotgun. You don't think this guy would have gunned down these neighbors if he had found her? He was out hunting her like an animal when they were calling 911, John Limley. What do we know? Absolutely. In fact, we've learned just in the past few days,

for months now, we've been hearing about that door being kicked in. Well, he used that shotgun actually to blow the door open he was prepared uh prepared to the point where he didn't even leave behind any dna evidence there was a lot of planning that went into this but the big question unless uh we've just not been told by investigators yet is the why why and as we mentioned previously, how did he even know this family and specifically this 13-year-old girl? To Kathleen Murphy, this guy in court today, what do you think about the possibility that additional charges will be added in the days to come? I obviously believe that this child was taken against her will. And so it follows that I believe

charges of hurting her personally will be added, sex abuse of a child. And I wish she could just disappear into oblivion and these charges not be made public and that people don't know what really happened to her because that's something that she'll have to live with. And thank God, thank God for Elizabeth Smart. And thank God for J.C. Duggard and all the other young women who have survived this and can be that club for her. And I know in my heart that every one of those young women, now young mothers, will reach out for this little girl. I think they will. To Joseph Scott Morgan, forensics expert, we know the rescuers armed themselves because of the volatile nature of this guy. He keeps being described as a white male, loner, quiet, shy.

B.S. to all of that. This guy, according to police, is a murderer. And when he was out looking for her after the neighbors had found her, I think he would have used any means necessary to get her. If that meant gunning down this family, the Kasinskas, the woman that found her, Jane Nutter, that meant nothing to him. Just like her parents meant nothing to him. And at some point, he probably would have killed her too, Joe Scott Morgan. Yeah, I think that you're probably right.

He viewed her as an object, just something to be thrown away and used. However, I think that there, from an investigative standpoint, Nancy, there's a bright spot in this and the fact that they're saying that they found a shotgun in the residence where, in this cabin where he was holed up with Jamie. Now, this is key because this is going to have a specific tieback. You guys mentioned earlier that he had gone to great lengths to not leave any trace behind. My suspicion is, is the fact that this was probably a semi-automatic shotgun. There were at least three blasts that were fired. He tried to gain access to the house with one, and then he shot these two poor people.

So more than likely, these shells, these ejected shells were left at the scene unless he went back and tried to pick them up. Maybe they can be tied back to the weapon that was found at the cabin. You know, we're trying to find out more about this guy, Patterson. He has no criminal history, but we know, isn't it true, John Lindley, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter, his brother had had a violent incident in the past. That is the case, Nancy. Jake Patterson doesn't even seem to have a parking ticket on his record. Now, it is important to point out that investigators believe Jake Patterson acted alone in the abduction of Jamie and the murder of her parents. There are no other suspects in the case, but the suspect's brother, this is very interesting, 24-year-old Eric Patterson,

is a convicted sex offender and at one time lived in the same home there in Gordon, Wisconsin, where Jamie was held captive. According to court records, six years ago, when Eric Patterson was 18, he drove from Gordon to Buffalo City, that's about three hours away, to meet a 15-year-old girl and have sex with her. The girl told police she met Eric three weeks earlier on an online chat site. Eric told police he thought she was 17. And in Eric's car, police found several maps, clothes, and even a police scanner as well. He was charged with criminal sexual assault in the second degree, but the charge was reduced to fourth degree. He pled no contest. Well, I'm thinking that through to you, Francie Hakes, former federal prosecutor, his brother had found a young girl, a teen girl,

in a neighboring city, driven to that city to meet up with her and ended up with a felony charge about what went down. So I'm just wondering, did that seed stick in his head and then flower and blossom into a plot to get Jamie? Nancy, it certainly looks like Patterson learned from the mistakes of his brother, specifically how not to get caught, that his brother got caught, he was determined not to by shaving his head so he wouldn't leave his DNA, by blowing the door open with a shotgun and taking Jamie by force, leaving no witnesses. This was a planned, well thought out, executed desire to get this child at all costs. And one of the things that makes me wonder, Nancy,

is while he doesn't have any documented criminal history, this is an awfully bold, executed plan for someone who has not done anything like it before. It makes me wonder what we're going to find in his past. Take a listen to this. a very, I don't know, slender-looking girl who looked exactly like Jamie Claus in the photographs that we've all seen. She just came in, said she was Jamie. We brought her in the house. She came and sat down in our living room with us, and we called 911 immediately and waited for the police to arrive. It took maybe a half hour for the police to get here. I don't know. I don't even really know how to describe it other than just kind of like surprise and panic at the same time.

So we just called 911. We waited. We kind of just talked with her, nothing too specific about what was happening. I asked her if she knew where Gordon, Wisconsin was. She did not. But she was pretty clear about that she'd been taken. Other than that, she didn't give us a lot of details. We just waited for the police to arrive.

They came, they took her, and then that's basically it. Jamie was reunited with her aunt at the hospital this afternoon. She will also be reunited later this evening with the rest of her family. She is doing as well as circumstances allow. We have recovered a gun consistent with what was used at the scene of the initial homicide. However, we will have to wait for confirmation that it was indeed the same weapon after examination by the Wisconsin State Crime Lab. The gun used at the scene on the night of the incident was a shotgun. The shotgun was also used to open the was used to shoot open the door at the Kloss home on the night of the incident. The door of the class home was not kicked in. Investigators say this guy Patterson did act alone, but there are so many questions swirling about how he managed to keep Jamie Claus prisoner for 88 days. This is according to Sheriff Fitzgerald. We know he was unemployed, that he lived in a remote Gordon home about 80 miles from Barron that he did not own it. We also know that documents

that have been obtained through a deed search shows that there was a mortgage on the property held by a different person. We know that the sheriff says that he concealed his identity, even shaving his hair, apparently, so he would not leave any DNA behind on the scene. Right now, ballistics tests being performed on that shotgun to Joseph Scott Morgan, forensics expert, author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon. Joseph Scott, explain how a ballistics test will likely match up the shotgun they recovered to the shotgun used to murder both of Jamie's parents. Nancy, for shotguns, it's a bit different than, say, for instance,

like a regular pistol that we might think of or a rifle that has rifling marks. Shotguns, what's referred to as a smoothbore weapon. So what they'll be looking for on a shotgun are what are referred to as extraction marks. And what that means, that soft brass base of the shells, as it is pulled out of the receiver, it leaves specific little markings on that. And they'll try to match these back to the shells found at the murder scene and match them back to the weapon that is recovered at the cabin itself. And also, they'll be looking at ammunition. What type of ammunition was utilized in the homicides? And also, what kind of ammunition was he in possession of?

Is it consistent with both of these? Can you imagine in the middle of the night, you've put your children to sleep, the doors are locked, the lights are off, and all of a sudden you hear a blast. It's a shotgun blowing out your door so your daughter can be taken. Both parents killed. She's held for 88 days in a cabin filled with old furniture, fans, years-old TVs and stereos, dirty plates piled up in the old kitchen, a half-finished game of Monopoly found in the main living room, a book entitled U.S. Armed Forces Survival Guide, hammer, flashlight, scissors, all piled up on a table. What happened to Jamie Closs?

Her parents now dead and buried. What happened in this remote cabin? I'm looking at an aerial view of it right now, where this teen girl, Jamie Closs, middle schooler, was held, allegedly by Jake Thomas Patterson, surrounded by trees and trees and trees. Right now, police looking for receipts where the suspect may have been during this time. What will the defense be? Will it be that Jamie was part of this scheme? That he thought he was saving her from abusive parents? Where else can the defense go? Of course, no evidence supports that whatsoever. To Karen Stark, New York psychologist, you heard Kathleen Murphy hoping that her image will be taken off

social media so she can merge back into society. What will she be going through now, Karen? You know, it's been a matter of survival for her, and then the bravery it took to try and get away, risking her life, knowing both her parents were shot dead. What is she going through now, Karen, coming home to a home without her mom and dad there? And that's where she's in a different situation than elizabeth smart and do that she's not going to be the same as them and they're already saying you never go back to who you once were

but she's going to be in shock fancy and she needs a lot of help because she doesn't have parents to come home to and she witnessed her parents being killed and then went through the trauma of being kidnapped by this guy. We can assume it's alleged, but you would assume that she went through sexual trauma. One would hope that they would take her off of social media just because somebody of that age shouldn't be. Her picture shouldn't be out there and she shouldn't be recognized. She should have a chance to try and build a more normal life again and get a lot of help to get through this trauma.

This guy, Patterson, wanted her back for many reasons, to either hold her captive, to molest or continue molesting her, but because she was a prime witness, the only witness to the murder of her parents. To Kathleen Murphy, weigh in on all the reasons he would have wanted her back, why he was out hunting her like an animal, and why the neighbors were well advised to get a gun, in their words. Nancy, I think you hit the nail on the head because you referenced that his brother

had some behaviors with a minor child that he was arrested for and he was charged with. This is a behavior that may be something that is learned in this family. I don't know any history about his family. The only thing I know is what you just told me. But I think something that's not clicking with these brothers and the problems that they have with their attraction to such young children is concerning. What about it to John Limley, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter? What can you tell us about the family? We've been able to slowly piece together sort of a timeline of his family going back to 2008. That's when Jake Patterson's parents divorced, according to

online court records. A neighbor says that the parents moved away, but that Patterson and his older brother continued to stay there in that remote cabin. She said that she and her husband once caught the two guys siphoning gas. Another neighbor said that the brothers often got into trouble. She said that they stole things and even spent some time in foster care. So you're telling me he may have been in foster care? Because let's backdate this. If he is 21 now, when did his parents get a divorce? 2008. So they have been divorced now for, wow, 11 years.

And he's only 21. So that places him at 10 years old. He was living in that cabin with his brother who was, did you tell me the brother was convicted for tracking down and molesting a teen girl? The brother was? Yes, sexual predator, his brother Eric. So you've got that with the Eric, the brother, and he's living with the brother in this cabin. That's his parental figure. Am I understanding this correctly, John Lindley? According to neighbors, this is what is emerging, is that the parents may have moved away individually because at that point they were divorced. And it's possible that the reason this is possible, that they may have ended up in foster care because they were there living alone in this cabin.

Take a listen to our friend at NBC, Ron Allen, reporting from Barron, Wisconsin. The man accused of killing her parents and holding her against her will for nearly three months, 21-year-old Jake Thomas Patterson, is now behind bars. Patterson's neighbors shocked. Just seems like your average teen, you know, growing up. There was nothing different than him than any other child in the neighborhood. Authorities say three years ago, Patterson worked at the same turkey plant as Jamie's parents for one day. But authorities don't believe he had any other contact with the family before the murders. We didn't have the suspect on her radar. That's kind of unique in this case I mean I'm saying it that he

randomly picked her. Patterson is due in court later today where he'll be charged with kidnapping and murder. His lawyers calling it a tragic situation. We have a job to do in terms of you know know, representing our client and protecting his rights and his interests. But we also understand the pain and the emotion that has been generated within this community. We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace, Crime Story, signing off. Goodbye, friend. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.