Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - OnlyFans "Model" Stabs Lover Dead, DAMNING AUDIO REVEALED

Episode Date: November 4, 2022

OnlyFans model and Instagram influencer Courtney Clenney was arrested on charges that she stabbed her boyfriend to death at a Miami high-rise. Christian Obumseli, 27, died inside the couple's apartment.  An attorney for Clenney says that the 25-year-old “was a victim of physical, emotional, and mental abuse at the hands of Obumseli and killed him in self-defense. However in a newly-released video, recorded by Obumseli's phone Courtney Clenney is heard viciously berating her boyfriend, calling him a racist slur, and more.   Friends of the couple said it was unimaginable that Obumseli could have been violent toward Clenney, saying while they had seen Clenney hit Obumseli, they had never seen him hit her.   Three recordings, running between one and seven minutes long were provided in the discovery phase of the murder case against Clenney.    Joining Nancy Grace Today: Brad M. Micklin, Esq - Lead Attorney, Managing Member, The Micklin Law Group, LLC (Nutley, NJ), micklinlawgroup.com Dr. Charles Heller - Clinical and Forensic Psychologist Specializing in Domestic Violence, Chief Forensic Consultant: Rockland County (New York) Forensic Mental Health Unit, Rutgers Biomedical and Health Sciences Dr. Todd M. Barr - Board-Certified Anatomic/Clinical/Forensic Pathologist (Ohio), Featured in "Thin Places: Essays From In Between" by Jordan Kisner, Twitter: @ToddBarrME Dan Corsentino - Former Police Chief, Former Sheriff, Served on US Homeland Security Senior Advisory Board, Private Investigator www.dancorsentino.com Charlie Lankston - FeMail Editor, DailyMail.com, Twitter/Instagram:@charlielanks   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Only fans. We all know what that is. It's a porn site, essentially. But there are some classy models on OnlyFans, but this ain't one of them. An OnlyFans star now charged with murder too. And somehow this whole thing has gotten twisted up to where her lawyer is claiming she is actually the victim. Well, recent audio recordings that we have obtained certainly don't help that argument. I'm Nancy Grace.

This is Crime Stories. Thanks for being with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM 111. How did the whole thing start? Listen to our friends WSVN. A bloody Sunday domestic killing inside a trendy Miami high-rise. Listen, our friends, WSVN. is dead and his family is devastated. Courtney Clenny, a famous Instagram model, is who Miami police say was involved in a physical altercation with Obumsele, who was stabbed. Wow, the way they said that, the sparkling one, Paraiso Condominium. You know, it actually makes me think of the Emerald City and the Wizard of Oz, how in the distance you see this beautiful, sparkling, high-rise castle.

The sparkling one Pariso condominium. Well, that proves it doesn't matter where you live or how much money you have or education or what color you are. Doesn't matter. Crime can and will find its way into your life. And OnlyFans model now charged with murder how the hay is twisted around to where she is the victim take a listen now to our friends at wplg following the stabbing clanny was detained she was brought here to the police department for

questioning and during that process she was threatening to kill herself so officers took her to the hospital where she was baker acted as it stands at this moment she has not been charged detectives revealed christian abamselli was stabbed during an argument inside their luxury miami apartment in april after the stabbing video obtained by tmz shows cluny handcuffed and covered in blood sitting on the floor. Clunney was not charged during the initial investigation. What? What? Not charged? She's sitting on the balcony of a high-rise. Translation, nobody went in or came out. High-rise balcony covered in her boyfriend's blood

and she's not charged? What? because she's pretty and has a big bosom is that why she's not charged okay she's what too pretty for jail did you hear that earlier part you know i want to go to you charlie langston uh female editor that's f-e-M-A-I-L at dailymail.com, but I've got to just go to Dr. Charles Heller. Heller, clinical forensic psychologist specializing in domestic violence. He's at Rutgers Biomedical and Health Sciences. Dr. Heller, is there a clinical term for drama queen? The boyfriend is stabbed dead, and then she's, what, hyperventilating in her push-up bra on the balcony,

covered in his blood, and then she threatens to kill herself? Yeah. Of course she didn't kill herself. But just, what's the word for that? Histrionic, I guess? I bet you've got a really big word for drama queen. Well, we could start with narcissism. We could go to antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality.

Also, there's a strange addiction that people have to other people called codependency and I think both of these people were addicted to each other and could not leave each other okay hold on hold on I've got something to throw at you okay everybody on the panel just hold on a moment Dr. Heller with me is a renowned expert Dr. Charles Heller forensic psychologist at Rockland County, chief forensic consultant at Rutgers Biomedical. That's not shabby. Dr. Heller, maybe you can put this in the correct clinical terms, but I've had friend girls in the past say, oh, I don't like him. He's boring. I'm like, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. You've dated all these losers who stand you up, who cheat on you. They're drinkers. They, they do drugs. They're unemployed. Then they're employed. You know, they yell at your

children. You go up and down and up and down. You finally get a decent guy. And he's boring. Seriously? What is that when you are so addicted to the roller coaster of an abusive or toxic relationship? You're so addicted. When you finally get a nice guy that works for a living, comes home, takes you out to dinner, that's boring. You don't want Red Lobster anymore. You want to go have a fight in the parking lot.

What is that? Well, first of all, that kind of person also has an addiction, an addictive personality. And they crave certain stimuli in another person that gives them out like a high and being close to another person like that is what they crave and they want to control that person did you think it's not necessarily a personality trait but they're conditioned to it they're used to the highs and the lows and the roller coaster and the happiness when he brings the roses and the despair when he doesn't show up overnight you're like wow is he with a hooker i mean that when you're when you're used to that

and then you have a somewhat normal relationship that's boring i don't know that that would be a personality trait. It could be just what you're used to. Like children that grow up in a violent home, they're really not happy until they are in a violent home themselves. And that feels normal to them. Well, codependency is a family disease, just like alcoholism. And it starts in the family you grew up in guys you're hearing dr. Charles Heller and I haven't even gotten into the facts yet we have an all-star panel with us but I just had to go to dr. Heller about this woman the only fans model and no Charlie Langston editor of female uh f-e-m-a-i-l at dailymail.com charlie how is it he's dead from multiple stab wounds on the floor and she turns out to be the victim and threatens to kill herself really she

is claiming that he was stabbed in self-defense she claims that he grabbed her by the throat and that she grabbed the knife to defend herself. However, I should point out the cops who went to the apartment said that there was absolutely no evidence of any injury on her body. So there is extreme doubt over her claims that he grabbed her by the throat. If he did that and left not a single mark, it can't have been violent enough, in my opinion, to warrant a response with a knife. Brad M. Micklin is joining us, guys. He is a very high-profile lawyer joining us, lead attorney managing member at the Micklin Law Group, joining us out of New Jersey. You can find him at MicklinLawGroup.com. Brad, I hate a lot of aspects regarding criminal defendants, but one thing I

really hate, and this is having defended battered women for many, many years and worked as a volunteer for nearly 10 years at the Battered women's center i hate when women aggressors women bullies women killers use the battered women's syndrome to their benefit when it's not true because people hear about it and then when they're sitting on a jury with a real battered woman they go oh this is bs see I mean no I agree it's it's supposed to be a shield a protection battered women syndrome the domestic violence protection orders but people use it as a weapon and then when the victim is dead and can't defend himself it's an easy defense to use I mean your

whole conversation with dr. Heller before was implicitly saying Christian was to blame, that she was addicted to his abuse, to his dependency. And we're already talking about what did he do, what was his role in this, without talking about the fact that she stabbed him and everything that was recorded and shown shows that she goes from calm to rage and nothing more. On the other hand hand you really can't ignore the statistics that typically overwhelmingly like 90 90 plus percent of the time it is the male that is the aggressor i can't avoid that truth and that's a truth we've got to deal with but speaking

of her being the biggest truth unless you accept that stat. Well, I do accept the stat. You can go on Google and get a stat to support anything. Well, I usually sit with the Department of Justice. And should I believe you, Micklin, or my lying eyes? I know what I saw in court every day for 10 straight years plus. I know what I saw at Grady Memorial Hospital where all the beat up women go. I know what I saw at the battered women's center. Night after night after night of battered women. So you are my lion eyes.

Let me think about that. Well, I don't. Look, I don't. Not you. I made my decision. I don't deny that women are often significant victims of domestic violence. But that doesn't negate the fact that just as many men are too. Just more of them are restrained from reporting.

I don't know what you're smoking, man, but I'm not getting near it. So the claim that she is the victim. Take a listen now to our cut 10. This is our friends. These are our friends at Fox 7 and WPLG. Behind closed doors, we just started hearing some shouting, yelling. We don't know who was starting what. We didn't get a lot of contacts.

Occasionally, we would hear some glasses break and some banging on the walls, floors. Not sure, you know, who was doing it. I just want people to know that it had been going on for a long time, and it definitely could have been stopped. When police reported that Obamsele was fatally stabbed by Clanny on Sunday inside their Miami apartment, the friends were left speechless. They portray a very violent relationship at the hands of only one person. I've seen her hit him. I've never seen him hit her.

But regardless of what friends and neighbors insist to be true, somehow the OnlyFans model is being painted as the victim. Take a listen to our friends at WPLG. Her lawyer sent me this statement. It reads in part, Abumsele attacked her and choked her that evening. Courtney had no choice but to meet force with force. In April, a neighbor told Local 10 he had a clear view of the couple's apartment and saw Clenny getting physically abused. Abimseli's family says he was not abusive and have been vocal calling for an arrest in his case. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

Amazing that he is stabbed to death, and she, obviously the stabber, is not charged, insisting that she is the victim. But really? Listen to this. Are you going to get this mad at me when I'm apologizing to you? No, Christian. You're thinking I'm doing it on purpose. Drop your ad. Drop your hype. Okay, I'm not doing it on purpose. You told Sarah you don't have a phone.

The right thing to do is to tell me. Yes, and I am so sorry. So shut up and let me... You dumb... Give me my phone. You have your phone. I don't have it anymore. Find it and...

What? Find it, Charmaine. Charmaine, I'm sorry, please. I don't have it anymore. Find it and f*** it. What? Find it, Charlie. I'm sorry, please. I don't care. Okay, that's not going to help her claim that she's the victim. To Charlie Langston joining us from DailyMail.com, the editor of Female, what did I just hear? I heard her going crazy on him, cursing at him, ordering him around. She's saying something like, you touched her. the right thing to do is to tell me she is really letting him have it he's going i'm sorry i'm sorry

what was that all about so what you were hearing there was a recording that obam selly himself made it's one of multiple recordings of moments when Plenty was abusive towards him. Some of the other recordings are even more horrific. You can hear her physically slapping him. You can hear her repeatedly calling him the N-word. She swears at him. She belittles him. She berates him. Did you say call him the N-word? He's black. She's white. say call him the n-word he's black she's white he called him the n-word on multiple occasions and he recorded all of it yeah you're right charlie langston there are a lot of audio tapes and guess what we've got them this is reminding me of johnny depp versus amber heard with not quite as much money involved. Take a listen to this. I don't know where your phone is. Find it!

Can you help me find it? I WON! So what? FIND IT! Why are you screaming, man? Not man, but... Yeah man, that man, that man will Yeah man, that man, that man will

Yeah example of man how Okay, sadly, you're gonna hear more. Listen. I don't have your phone. Just can you just. Just my phone. Cece, can you just please. Shut up. Cece, please. Shut up. You want to go. I didn't go to go. Yes, you did.

You always wanted to. I was. You literally told me about it. What are you talking about? You're a sucker. Okay. Put on your seatbelt because there's a lot more. Joining me, Dan Corsentino, former police chief, former sheriff,

served on U.S. Homeland Security Senior Advisory Board, now private investigator. You can find him at DanCorsentino.com. He seems to know everything about every high-profile case that I'm interested in. Dan Corsentino, murder. Very often, we don't know what led up to it. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes. But what do you make of what you're hearing right now? All this over a lost iPhone.

You find my iPhone for Pete's sake. Why are they fighting over an iPhone to this degree? What's happening? And he ends up stabbed dead? Well, to me, obviously, it's a very dysfunctional relationship to say the very minimum. But as you take a look at the pattern of behavior with Miss Quinney in this situation, it appears that she, and I hate to use the terminology as a spoiled little brat, but it appears that she, and I hate to use the terminology, is a spoiled little brat, but it appears that she is a young woman who wants to be controlling, demanding in the situation.

And if she's not getting her way, she escalates her behavior. And obviously not being a psychologist but being a cop, one of the things you'd look for upon entering a situation is the demeanor of the individuals or individual that is in the house. And in this case, she may have fooled some people or attempted to fool some people because, you know, she was an only fans model. She was acting and she's a very good actress. You know what? I'm trying to absorb everything that you just said, because there are parts of that there that it's very profound as it relates to the probative nature of Clint Eastwood's personality. Charlie langston what about it did you hear what corsentino just said i did and did you see that picture charlie uh charlie langston joining us from dailymail.com of her sitting on the balcony covered in blood but somehow she manages to have her left breast

hanging out i did police get there okay and the dog nobody's commented on that but i mean there it is and the dog is sitting there just looking her like what did you just do do you see this i did and i think it's in your article charlie i'm looking right at it and it i mean it's unbelievably shocking and i think i mean the cops are coming so hey just take your breast out what well and i think you know the image that was portrayed whether or not it was constructed or real is the is an image of someone who is trying to look in a state of emotional distress because that is one of the things that she has claimed, that there is no way she could be responsible.

There's no way that she could have intended to kill him because she was in such a state of emotional distress. When cops arrived, that's not someone who intended to kill someone. Or it's someone that killed their boyfriend in an angry bratty fit. He couldn't, couldn't get the EMTs there fast enough to save his life. Or it's someone that killed their boyfriend in an angry bratty fit. He couldn't get the EMTs there fast enough to save his life. Neither she cared.

Notice the cops are there, so she takes her breast out. I don't know what effect that's going to have on a female cop running up, what, 15 flights of stairs. But that said, there it is. That's something for the jury to mull. Joining me, Dr. Todd M. Barr, board-certified anatomic clinical forensic pathologist, joining us out of Ohio, featured in Thin Places, Essays from in Between, and you can find him on Twitter, at Todd Barr M. E. That stands for medical examiner. Dr. Barr, what do you make of this copious amount of blood from a stab to the shoulder? Well, yeah, Nancy, I'm looking at the crime scene photos. Which crime scene photos?

Her on the balcony with her breast hanging out? Well, there's that. That too? The picture of the knife on the floor with the blood spatter all over the walls and all over the floor. Clearly, an artery was hit. That's a lot of blood spatter and coming from from an artery, which is under great pressure. And the fact, you know, which artery the carotid? Well, if he was stabbed in the shoulder. Yeah, it's probably the subclavian artery or the brachial artery. Oh, okay. Wait a minute. I'm just a JD. You're the MD. The what?

We typically hear of the carotid in the neck or the femoral in the leg. What are the ones you just said? Brachial, that means arm. Right, exactly. And subclavian is what comes off of the aorta that feeds the blood to the shoulder area, to the brachial that means arm right exactly and subclavian is what comes off of the aorta that feeds the blood to the shoulder area uh to the brachial subclavian now clavicle is this right uh yeah okay jackie dr jackie is saying yes so sub means below that there's an artery there and the brachial artery in your arm correct. So all of those blood vessels and all the nerves that feed the arm, everything sort of come together right through. And they sort of traverse down through the armpit and down into the arm area. But this is from something that was

arterial in nature, as far as I can tell from the pictures I'm looking at. When you say it that way it sounds like you're dissecting a bug arterial in nature you mean she stabbed him in an artery is that what that means yeah that's exactly what that means you know um did you ever see the beverly hillbillies by chance oh yeah okay so in the beginning, you see Jed, Uncle Jed, shoot. I guess shoot at an animal. But he hits Texas gold oil and it starts bubbling up. Remember that?

Yeah. Okay. I've used that comparing an artery stab to a jury. An artery, that's more like a regular vein. An artery is more like have you ever driven by a fire hydrant and just see the water shooting out exactly that's our that's a stab in the artery that's exactly right that it's under intense high pressure um every time the heart contracts it's forcing that blood into those arteries so and the heart is just a solid muscle. So every time it squeezes,

it's going to shoot that blood out. In fact, veins are under very low pressure because they're just sort of returning the blood back to the heart. So it's sort of a passive movement of blood in the venous system. But arterial blood is under high pressure. Haven't I told you you need to do an audio book when you just talk about cases and explain it? Because that is incredibly interesting. Just in the way you explain it makes so much sense. I mean, Charlie Langston, now let's take what Dr. Todd M. Barr has said and apply it to this situation. And it goes right back to that picture of her and her one breast hanging out on the balcony. And she's totally, it's so bloody.

It looks like a Halloween costume. It does. It's gory and graphic. Okay, now, we're back to the actual crime. We were talking about, oh, I was playing for you these recently uncovered audio. Well, okay, they're not over yet take a listen to this i didn't go to talk to aro i was going on a bike ride like what the get off i'm gonna talk to aro is this gonna make you act like this talk to her without telling me corny i was on the bike ride and she passed me

and i said hi you and cor Courtney are having a live chat my bed I forgot to tell you that that doesn't make you to act and call me Yes, thank you I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die.

I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die.

I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going God, I can't feel my arm. 3101.

I can't feel my arm. Ma'am. Ma'am, what is the address? What's that? What's the address, baby? 3131. 3131, North East, North East, 7th Avenue. Please, God, please, come see my head.

You're hearing at the beginning North East Heaven's House. Please, God, please, come see my husband. I've got some of this. You're hearing at the beginning more screaming, and you also hear her, Courtney Clinney, slapping him, Christian Obamsele. And the whole thing is on audio, which begs the question, why was he videoing or taping the argument? And then you hear the star of the whole trial, her 911 call, screaming again. And the dispatch says, you got to stop screaming and tell me your address. And you can hear probably some of the last words ever spoken by Christian. And he is saying, I'm dying. I can't feel my arm. I'm going to die. I want to ask you, Charlie Langston, we endured together the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial and people kept saying, why would she, was she starting an argument with him and then videoing him or videoing him drunk or

videoing him drunk and passed out with ice cream melting in his lap? Why? I mean, if my husband was in a bad way and he was like passed out with ice cream or food all over him, I wouldn't video it. So in this case, however, why is he, Christian Odomseenselli audiotaping the argument where she's physically attacking him because some woman rode by him on a bike and said hi to me the fact that he was recording her is evidence that their relationship had been abusive for a very long time there's also other evidence to back that up. You've got neighbors talking about smashing things. She had been arrested previously for domestic violence. And I think he knew that the face that she was showing to the world was a very different

face than the one that he saw behind the scenes. And he knew that in order to protect himself, he needed to make these recordings so that he would have evidence if he ever got into a situation where she tried to flip the script and say that he had been abusive. And the devastating thing is these recordings will now serve as evidence, but not to protect him. They will serve as evidence in a murder trial. I doubt he could have anticipated that change in the script. Charlie Langston joining us from DailyMail.com. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Dr. Charles Heller, clinical forensic psychologist.

I agree with what Charlie Langston just said. It tells me he was abused so often he finally started recording it. Nancy, these people were addicted to each other. She was really inappropriate and she was very jealous. Anytime he looked at someone, she probably would have a fit, a bad one. You know, I don't get that. You know, when my husband goes jogging for a walk, and a woman goes by, and he glances over, and I'm like, good, I'm glad to see you're still alive, David. Keep going. Still use your blood, still pumping through your veins. I wouldn't

think of yelling and beating him because he spoke to some lady. It just is so twisted up. But to you, Brad Micklin, a high profile lawyer at the Micklin Law Group, this is exactly what leads up. Something as stupid as saying hi to a woman going by on a bike to murder. It's insane. It is insane. And we keep having this conversation about him being addicted to her or the relationship being abusive. No, she was abusive. She stabbed him.

And I think Christian was recorded because he knew or feared that she would call the police one day, say he was committing domestic violence, and he would be arrested for it. And him being bigger and stronger would have no defense. So he started to record it to defend himself, which unfortunately he can't do any longer. And I hope that they're used in a criminal trial to show just how violent she was. Okay, guys. do any longer and i hope that they're used in a criminal trial to show just how violent she was okay guys uh her claim that she's the victim well this is not going to help this is body cam footage and you know what that means that means the cops have arrived this was a previous event listen I'm not having any... You just want to get into your apartment? Yes. Yes, okay. Okay, but you told me I was alone. Time out. Let me talk. Okay. I feel very like...

What's your name? Courtney? Yes. Okay, Courtney. Why do you have something against me, man? Like, I'm afraid. Like, what's your problem? What's your problem? We're trying to talk. So, you just want to get back into your apartment. Unfortunately, he can't be here in the property. That is totally fine. Okay. He's been

literally sleeping in my elevator room without permission. All keep the property and you'll get back to your apartment it's everybody talking on top of each other but we hear her and this is to a cop i do not advise speaking down to or being belligerent to a cop no what's happening there charlie langston so this was recorded the day before obamsele was stabbed and the cops were called to her apartment building she claimed that she had thrown obamsele out of their apartment the week before that they had broken up and she accused him of stalking her and she demanded that the cops give her a restraining order. The interesting thing is you can hear her in one recording telling the cops I need a restraining order before he gets one

which suggests to me that she knew that he had a full claim to accuse her of the same kind of abuse that she was attempting to accuse him of oh there you go dueling restraining orders but the thing here is she's claiming he's stalking her other reports are he was trying to just get back in the apartment where they both lived well there's more uh you know this should be assigned to her defense attorney. Don't let her on the stand. Take a listen to this. We're not together. Does he have any property in your apartment? He has so much. Can I, with respect, can I please?

I just feel like I'm not being heard. Okay. Go ahead, go ahead. So I had a lot of opportunities to call y'all. And I did not. So when he's following me around his house park, I said, there is no, your time is up. Like, that's it. And then all of a sudden, my dad, he's only in the elevator.

And I said, don't fall. I said, I don't have to let her show up there. When I was upstairs, when they showed up on the way, I said, I showed it. I said, show me the problem. I really got angry because I did not help him. I only did mistake my dog's name. Okay, so basically she's saying, I was afraid. I wanted to take my dogs out, but I couldn't. But it sounds like she actually did and that he got on the elevator

and her complaint is he, quote, smells like a homeless shelter. Okay, so she stabbed him. There's more. Listen, this is what Charlie Langston was telling us. She wants to get a restraining order against him before he can do it to her. I feel like I am being listened to. All right, so what do you want to say? I just want to be like, I don't want to be like exonerated.

I guess it's like anything wrong. And I want him, okay, I don't want to be like exonerated. I guess it's like anything wrong. And I want him, okay, before we start here, I want a restraining order against Christian infidelity. Why don't I issue those? Because, you know, I'm serious. To court. Can I do that? We're going to court.

Okay, but how can I make myself first? Because I know him and he would do it. How can I make myself first? You've got to get there first. Before 75, go to West first. Before 75, go to West first. Is he, 475. 475, 475. Is he already on the way? We have no idea.

We don't even know how it looks like. We don't even know who it is. How do we know that? Oh, my goodness. Okay, Charlie Langston, more of the same. But here we hear her stating that she wants to get him before he gets her. Yep. What more do you believe is revealed in these tapes?

I mean, I think there are so many different recordings that focus on her abusive, erratic behavior, and it just proves that the dynamic in the relationship was largely, from what we hear, her berating and abusing him. As we heard earlier, friends of the couple stated very clearly that they saw Clenny hit Obamsele. They never saw the violence being returned. We also had

video footage from inside the elevator of their apartment building months before Obamsele was stabbed that showed Clenny beating him, pulling his hair, and all he does is cower away and attempt to defend himself. To Dan Corsentino, joining us, former police chief, sheriff, U.S. Homeland Security advisor, private investigator at dancorsentino.com, elevator

video. It really came to the forefront in the Rice case, where you see him, and this is a professional football player, dragging the victim, a female victim, by her hair out of the elevator. And then, of course, there was the famous, or should I say infamous, Beyonce video where you see her sister lie into Beyonce's husband Jay-Z like there's no tomorrow. And I guarantee you, I'm going out on a limb here, he deserved it because she just stood there like, mm-hmm, while her sister was beating him up. Elevator footage. Nobody can suppress it. It's in a public place. So it's fair

game. And the elevator footage in this case is damning for her. Absolutely. In this case, she is demonstrative. She's aggressive. She is violent and she's attacking. And what we see, let's compare the size of the two. She appears to be about 5'2". He appears to be at least 5'10", maybe a little bit taller, somewhat buff, but very good shape. And he was on the defensive in this case. An elevator video is very clear that she is a violent offender that attacked him, and he was trying to protect himself from everything she was attempting to do. Strike him in the head, strike him in the chest, strike him in the arm. Very, very definitive.

Dr. Charles Heller joining us, a clinical forensic psychologist. Why is it so hard for people to believe that a man can be the victim of domestic violence? Well, it goes against the stereotypes, basically. But he could not leave her, even though she was violent with him, jealous, making up imaginary things about him. And that's codependency.'s dual addiction and what happens is basically it's so strong the bond is so strong and in metaphor metaphoric terms the pegs in in his head matched exactly the holes in her head they They were bonded so so tightly together that they couldn't extricate themselves. He couldn't leave her and she couldn't leave him. You know the officers really hit the nail on the

head. Take a listen to our friends at WPLG, our cut 34. Also informing her that she's not being clear on what she wants. You want this person to completely disappear from your life. At the same time, you have him in your apartment here for two months with a ton of stuff in here. But no, I know. Clanny goes back to her apartment. Officers then go to the employee who made the original call, telling him she never disclosed that there was violence that particular night. When she came down, he went charging at her.

That's fine. That's my whole thing. Right. But she didn't mention none of that until she says she wants to do something about it so we can get it. So that's where we step in where it's a criminal activity, but she needs to mention something about that. Okay. Unfortunately, we can't do anything. So she calls cops over there, but then doesn't do, doesn't go forward with any type of action.

Brad Micklin with me, a high-profile lawyer out of New Jersey. Brad, where do you believe this whole thing will end? And you apparently firmly believe men can be the victims of domestic violence. Men are the victims of domestic violence. Just like Dr. Heller said, they are stereotypically afraid to call and report it. I mean, can you imagine if Christian had picked up the phone and said, my little girlfriend, Courtney, is beating me up. I need a restraining order.

He would have been laughed at. But this case, from a criminal standpoint, really hinges on whether or not these audios and the video of the elevator get in or not, because they are so prejudicial that there is some chance that they rule that they can't be used against her. And that, I think, is going to turn this case. He's tuning up, and I expect to hear the full symphony at trial.

Charlie Langston, DailyMail.com, what's next? Well, now we wait for her to go on trial. She's currently in custody, waiting the start of her trial. And it will be very interesting to see whether or not she is put on the stand, because if her behavior that we've heard in these recordings is anything to go by, she's not going to be a solid or reliable witness. She's proven herself to be incredibly erratic, as you said, Nancy, belligerent towards authority figures. And I don't know whether what she's potentially going to say on the stand will help her. Well, I can tell you this much. It may get her a lot of views on OnlyFans, but

flashing her breast in the jury deliberations in the courtroom is not going to help. We wait as justice unfolds for Christian O'Donnell. Goodbye, friend.