Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Renowned psychiatrist dead in Playboy 'Bunny’s' BMW trunk

Episode Date: June 2, 2021

Former Playboy model Kelsey Turner is accused of killing an elderly psychiatrist, who reportedly paid her rent and gave her money. Dr. Thomas Kirk Burchard, 71, a renowned psychiatrist, was found dead in the trunk of Turner’s blue Mercedes Benz. The car had been abandoned on a dirt road, according to police. Two other suspects, identified as Jon Logan Kennison and Diana Nicole Pena are charged. Pena pled guilty. Kennison continues to deny that he or Turner had anything to do with Burchard's death.Joining Nancy Grace today: Troy Slaten - Los Angeles Criminal Defense Attorney, Slaten Lawyers, APC, Twitter @TroySlaten Dr. Jenn Mann - Marriage and Family Therapist, Host 'Couples Therapy' and 'Family Therapy' on VH1, "The Dr. Jenn Show” on Sirius XM, Author: "The Relationship Fix: Dr. Jenn’s 6-Step Guide to Improving Communication, Connection and Intimacy", doctorjenn.com Dr. Kendall Crowns – Deputy Chief Medical Examiner Travis County, Texas (Austin) Chris Byers - Former Police Chief Johns Creek Georgia, 25 years as Police Officer, now Private Investigator and Polygraph Examiner, www.chrisbyersinvestigationsandpolygraph.com Alexis Tereszcuk - CrimeOnline.com Investigative Reporter, Writer/Fact Checker, LeadStories.com, Twitter: @swimmie2009 Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How, how does a renowned psychiatrist end up dead in Vegas in the trunk of a BMW? Nope, it's not a movie script. It's not Hangover Part 3 or 4. It's real. A renowned psychiatrist ends up dead in the trunk of a BMW in Vegas. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

Who is he? Take a listen to what the doctor's girlfriend tells me. When did you learn that his body had been found? Ten days after I had reported him missing. That was such a scary time in those ten days of not knowing. Not knowing should I, you know, how to do anything, you know, just that was the scariest time really, I think. Just the fear, you know, coming home and probably about by the day before, about the eighth or the ninth day, I began to realize to myself that he probably wasn't ever coming home, you know, even though I kept hoping and hoping.

And then when they called me, you know, and told me, which was right before it broke on the news, it was, it was just, it was devastating, even though I thought I had prepared myself to hear the worst news. You are listening to the psychiatrist, the doctor in the trunks, Long Time Love. And of course, in typical police scenarios, the Long Time Love would be suspect number one. But how does a renowned psychiatrist end up dead in the trunk? Who is this guy? Listen. He was outgoing. He loved his practice. He loved, you know, his patients, you know, doing everything for them. Magic was his hobby and he learned that mainly to do magic tricks to kind of engage the children because he was a child psychiatrist. Nowadays, originally they

were children. Now, nowadays it was a little bit more on the adult side. he had started seeing them as children and continued following them into their adulthood. That was rather one of when he turned 65. He was 71, and when he had turned 65, he was concerned, worried about his patients that if he retired, they would be left with no one or having to start over with a new doctor. And so he, his idea of retirement was to cut his work week down to four days and take Mondays off. So how does a trip to Vegas fit into that four day work week? That's what I'm trying to find out. Where was she at the time? Her longtime love, Dr. Thomas Bouchard, was somehow stuffed in a

trunk dead unless he was killed in the trunk. We're learning a lot about him. That speaks volumes with me. An all-star panel, Troy Slayton, high-profile defense attorney, joining us out of LA, just a hop, skip, and a jump from where this dead body was found. I'd like to know where Troy Slayton was at the time. And you can find him at Troy Slayton. Dr. Jen Mann, family therapist, marriage therapist, host of Couples Therapy and Family Therapy on VH1, The Dr. Jen Show on SiriusXM, and author of The Relationship Fix. You can find her at drjen.com. Dr. Kendall Crowns,

Deputy Chief Medical Examiner for Travis County, Texas. That's Austin. And Senior Lecturer, University of Texas, and of course, Forensic Sciences. Chris Byers, former Police Chief, Johns Creek, 25 years as a police officer, now PI and polygrapher at Chris Byers Investigations and Polygraphs.com. Alexis Tereschuk, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter. Quick question to Dr. Kendall Crowns. Dr. Crowns, this guy is a psychiatrist. Now, just fill me in. In order to be a psychiatrist, isn't it true you have to become a medical doctor?

Go through undergraduate four years, then what, three or four years of medical school, then intern in your chosen field, psychiatry, for, I guess, three or four years after that? How does it work? Yeah, that's correct, Nancy. You get your undergraduate degree, you go to medical school, and then once you graduate, then you choose your residency in psychiatry. I do believe they do a one-year internship in internal medicine before they do, I think, three years in psychiatry. So four years of internship. And how long is medical school? Four years.

Troy Slayton, did you hear that? We go three years to law school. For one more year, we could have been doctors. Boy, I should have done that. Wish somebody told me that. I would have been able to make my mother proud. I know exactly. Oh yeah. You know what, Troy? You're right. How my mother begged me not to go into criminal prosecution. Oh yeah. One more year. And of course, brilliance, a degree in biology, uh a few other things which would have been needed. So this is a psychiatrist that has spent his life in child psychiatry.

And it really speaks volumes in my mind to Dr. Jen Mann that he started in child psychiatry and his patients loved him so much. The bulk of his practice is them as they grew up. They stayed with him. It's pretty amazing. And I have to tell you, I remember when I first started out as a therapist, I was working in a mental health clinic. And every other intern who came in would come in saying, I want to work with children.

And within six months, every one of them was like, I can't do this. Because it's particularly challenging. A lot of the time you're dealing with difficult family systems and parents who don't want to change and, you know, things that are just really challenging, rebellious kids. So, you know, this guy sounds like he was amazingly patient and kind and really cared about his clients. Guys, we're talking about Dr. Thomas Bouchard, who ends up after all these years of practicing dead in the trunk of a BMW. Alexis Tereschuk, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter, also with LeadStories.com.

Alexis, tell me about the discovery of him in the trunk of a BMW. How long had he been here, been in the trunk? And I'd also like to find out from Chris Byers how you forensically process a car trunk. But first to you, Alexis. So he had been missing for about 10 days and not related. A car was found abandoned on the side of the road in Las Vegas in a neighborhood. And it was very clear when you looked inside the car that something had happened.

But why would you look in the car? If I see a car by the side of the street, I don't get out of my car and go try to look in the trunk. I believe the police were called because it had been abandoned for so many days. Okay. So why didn't they just put a boot on it and a yellow ticket? Well, I think when you see blood in a car, it makes you think something happened. Oh, so they saw blood on the interior of the car. Right. Yes. There wasn't. Yes, there was blood

in the interior of the car. Alexis Tereshchuk, you're giving me renewed interest for playing 20 questions. So the police get called because there's an abandoned BMW. The police get there and in plain view, and I'm emphasizing those words because I know Troy Slate is listening, the veteran defense attorney, plain view has a legal meaning. For instance, if a cop goes by your car parked on the street and in plain view, he sees a line of coke on the dash, oh yeah, he, she can totally get in your car and impound it and get the evidence because they see evidence of a crime. They don't need a search warrant. It is in plain view. Generally, whatever a ordinary citizen, a civilian can do,

a cop can do without a warrant. Agree or disagree, Troy Slayton? I agree 100%. And the reason why this is so important is because if the police gather evidence illegally, then it's, and all the evidence that flows from that would be fruit of the poisonous tree. And that evidence and everything that flowed from it could be excluded from any criminal trial that follows. Right. For instance, I like to give an example when I'm speaking with jurors. If cops break in a home without a warrant, and it's not an emergency, exigent circumstances, in there they find evidence of another crime.

Let's just say they find cocaine with a delivery address. They go to that location and find a drug lord. No, you can't arrest a drug lord because the original evidence is fruit from the poisonous tree. An illegal search. He's correct again. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. So, cops see Alexis Tereshchuk blood in the BMW. That leads them, legally,

to open the car trunk. And when they open the car trunk, what, Alexis? Well, and they could see the blood. There had also been a rock thrown through the window of the car as it was on the side of the road. And so that also is suspicious as well. Very. And thrown into the car, not thrown out.

And in the trunk, they find the body of Dr. Burchard. To you, Dr. Kendall Crowns, Deputy Chief Medical Examiner, Travis County, that's a fine kettle of fish. You've got a dead body in the trunk that's been in there in Vegas heat for days and days. What do you do?

So the body's probably going to be markedly decomposed, bloating with green discoloration and skin flicking. Oh, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What? You just reeled it all off so quickly. What did you say? The first thing you said. In the heat, in the trunk, it's going to make the body decompose. You're going to decompose no matter what, but in the heat, you're going to decompose more rapidly.

So you said markedly decomposed or marginally decomposed? Markedly, marginally decomposed. Then I heard something about either green or purple yeah the body will turn kind of a greening coloration uh the skin will start slipping off then it will start bloating from the decomposition gases so the body what does that happen and then what does the body bloat because you have bacteria in your body right now it's sitting in there kind of kept in check by your body. But once you die, the bacteria no longer has the restraint put on it,

and then it begins breaking you down. And when it's breaking you down, it starts forming gas, and the gas that forms results in the bloating of the body. You know how I always explain it to a jury why a body bloated? I would use a piece of fruit like a banana or an apple. When it starts to, quote, go bad, you smell it, and it starts looking different. It turns a color.

Well, if that's happening inside your body, those gases, the same ones that make a banana smell, are gathering inside your body with nowhere to go. So your body bloats. That's a very rudimentary explanation, but that's how I can understand it. Do you think in just 10 days, Dr. Kendall Crowns, that there can be an ID of the body or because it's been in the trunk? Is it so, as you say, markedly decomposed, you can't make an ID? Yeah. So it would be difficult to do a visual ID at that point. You would probably have to rely on fingerprints and hope that there was fingerprints available to run them against,

or then go with dental records or dna if there's a presumptive id to make the identification to chris byers former police chief john's creek at chris byers investigations and polygraph.com have you ever seen a case like this body in a trunk yeah i absolutely have and uh it's it's as bad in this georgia heat as it is out there as well um had one that was in the trunk several days. And, you know, besides the plain view, you can smell that after several days. I've been to houses and apartments here in Atlanta, and a body's been inside long enough you could smell it from outside the door. How far away can you smell it?

I can guarantee if you're standing at the trunk of the car, you can smell it after 10 days. Because, again, I've smelled it at front doors and found bodies in living rooms and bedrooms decomposed. And it's a smell you'll never forget. I was just going to say that because people have asked me, how do you know you're smelling a dead body? And I always say, you know what? I don't know. But you know what? I don't know. But you know. It's kind of like, or at least for me, when you see a snake on the side of the street, you immediately know. Get away from that.

How do you know? I don't know. But you know. I guess evolutionary instinct. Alexis Tereshchuk, I'm a little bit embarrassed for you because you did not mention the stench that must have been coming out of that trunk. Any cop in his right mind would open it up. Absolutely. And they, you know, they had seen the rocks through the window, abandoned in the desert.

This is not something where it was maybe, they didn't think it was a car accident. You know, and the people had gotten in another car and ridden away and just ran and come back later for their car. So while all this is happening, a renowned child psychiatrist stuffed in the trunk of a BMW back home, the longtime love is waiting for Dr. Bouchard to show up. Take a listen to this. Well, he was scheduled. He flew there on Friday, March 1st, and he was scheduled to return the fourth, the following Monday. And I first noticed that there was something wrong on Sunday morning. I spoke with him Friday and we texted on Saturday.

And I began to feel that there was something wrong on Sunday. But I had received a couple of texts in the afternoon that I just knew were not him. You know, she's so right. Everybody has a unique style of writing a text. For instance, I would never write a long, verbose text. I tried to make it as short and brief as possible, even cutting letters out of words to make it quick. Well, she knew immediately this was not his style of writing.

Listen to what Judy tells me. The vocabulary wasn't his vocabulary. It was more of an uneducated. It just wasn't him. I could just tell it wasn't him talking or texting me. And I said so. I said, you know, Tom, I don't believe this is you. You need to call me.

And then after that, the phone went dead. And early Sunday morning that same day, I woke up very early, about 5 or so in the morning, just 4.35, just feeling something was really wrong. You know, just kind of scared, more scared than anything. And then those texts in the afternoon, you know, really, really raised some flags, and I was worried. I didn't hear from him at all, and I checked, and I kept checking, and he had not checked in for his flight. I was very worried. You know, it's interesting. It's called routine evidence. And again, I don't mean that it's run-of-the-mill or typical or stereotypical evidence, but evidence of someone's routine.

I like to call it behavioral evidence. Troy Slayton, of course, you as an expert defense attorney can slice all sorts of holes in this. But when someone has a routine, for instance, I get up every morning, I pack the children's snacks, I load the car to take them to school. I get my mom's breakfast ready. I start looking at crimes all across the country. And then I enjoy cleaning out the guinea pig cage. That is a routine that is strictly followed. If I were to suddenly decide, you know, I'm going to go to the hair salon or I'm going to go to an early morning eatery and not take my children to school this morning. That would be contrary to a routine, right? It would. And that would be admissible.

Evidence of someone's routine or habit is admissible in order to show their conformity therewith. And any deviation from that could be important evidence for a jury. Of course, a defense attorney like yourself can slice it up like Thanksgiving turkey, because just because you have routine doesn't mean you're always going to follow it. Absolutely. And certainly that would be important and compelling evidence for a jury. And someone can certainly argue that there is no textbook on the way that somebody is supposed to act. Oh, I was just waiting for you to pull that out of the mothballs. There's no textbook for the way that somebody is supposed to act, especially when somebody is paying for somebody else to have a luxury apartment for somebody that they're not married to. crime stories with nancy grace guys the girlfriend the longtime love judy she knows in her heart something's wrong but you can't identify it listen to the longtime love judy erp Monday, I still hadn't heard from him and his flight was due in, I think around 140. And so I decided to go to the airport to meet the plane. He had his car, you know, in the

long-term parking lot there, but I still, I went with my son to meet the plane. I just, I just felt something was wrong and I needed to, you know, check. And I watched every single person come off the plane, and it wasn't him. And by this time, I'm very, very concerned. And I speak with the gate agent, and they checked, and he had never checked in for his flight, and he wasn't on the flight. And then I knew something was, you know, just horrible. I go on to ask, did he explain why he was going to Vegas

for three days? Listen. Well, some of it I don't really want to say, you know, until the trial and everything. but some of it was business. Business? What kind of business lands you dead in the trunk of a BMW? I mean, Dr. Jen, man, I'm all for trust.

In fact, my husband's out of town right now. He had to go on a business trip for, guess what, three days. Oh, you know what? It just keeps going through my head. The three hour tour from Gilligan's Island. Why is there always three something? That's something for me to think about in all my spare time. So Dr. Jen, man, when do you start checking out what your husband's doing?

And when do you decide not to worry about it? Well, I think when your gut instinct says, oh, something's wrong. I'm a big believer in listening to the gut instinct. And, you know, I'm sure we've all read Gavin DeBecker's book, The Gift of Fear, where he talks about that gut instinct tends to be based on a thousand different things that our unconscious mind picked up. That was actually concrete evidence that we haven't fully made sense of. And I think that when your gut goes, ooh, something doesn't feel right, that's when you start checking it because our guts tend to be pretty on target when we listen. Dr. G, Amanda, did I ever tell you about the time I read my husband's email just for the fun of it? I thought I was going to die.

It was so boring. Oh, cool. Never again. It was awful. One business email after the next. Oh, it's like reading a tax audit. Long story short, what business does this guy, a psychiatrist, have in Vegas? To you, Alexis Tereschuk, wasn't his practice, wasn't it in California?

His practice was in California. He had been to Vegas several times for large medical conferences. Did you say conferences? Now, right there, the hair on the back of my neck just goes up because isn't it true, Chris Byers, you're a former police chief, 25 years on the force. Now you're a PI and I bet you do a lot of divorces. How often have you heard he went to a conference? Please. Oh yes. The conference starts lots of problems for sure. A lot of conferences. Sometimes there's not even really a conference. That's why you have Google ladies to look up and find out if there's

a conference. So sometimes he goes for conferences, but we find out a lot more was going on in Vegas. Take a listen. He had helped a lot of women, a lot of people, you know, men and women, with, you know, they were down on their luck or, you know, he would help them to pay their rent or their car payments or get the medicine that they needed, you know, rather than going through. And I told him, you know, lots of times he probably would be better off, you know, going through a charity, but no, he would directly help them make sure that they got what they needed. So hold on just a moment. Alexis Tereschuk, he's not just going to Vegas for medical conferences. I'm so glad you told me about the medical conferences. What do you mean by, quote, helping a lot of women, such as with car payments or rent?

Sounds like a honey trap. I would usually use the word sugar daddy in this case. This would be a wealthy older man taking care of younger women, beautiful younger women. And that seemed to be the case here. He was paying for multiple women and she did his fiance and long-term partner said that there were men too, but that he was very, very generous with his money. He had plenty of money. He'd worked as a doctor for 40 years in California, was very wealthy and was very generous with things that he paid for other people. But usually that's called a sugar daddy.

You know, Troy Slayton, veteran criminal defense attorney joining me out of L.A., do you remember the time in your career that you totally realized you were jaded? Because when I hear of this renowned psychiatrist helping beautiful, young, glamorous playboy playmates. I immediately think the worst. Well, he certainly you can't accuse him of not being a sophisticated individual where he didn't know what he was doing. In fact, statements from his longtime partner, Miss Earp, say that when she confronted him with the over $300,000 that he had spent over the years. Sorry, I choked on that. Go ahead. That he said he knew what he was doing and he could afford it.

Did I get that figure right? $300,000? $300,000. And so, Nancy, this was not a person who didn't know what he was doing. And he was obviously getting something in return. I don't know that I would call that sophisticated just because you've got an MD at the end of your name. If you're supporting women in Vegas to the tune of $300,000, as a matter of fact, I don't think that's smart at all.

Dr. Gen Man, I have a friend, well, let me say an acquaintance, has a wonderful marriage, leaves the wife because he falls in love with a stripper who then uses him to pay her children's private school. And then when they all graduate, she dumps him. By this time, he's lost his marriage. He's lost his stockbroker trader certificate. He's gone bankrupt and he's living in the basement of a college fraternity brother. When will men ever learn? Yeah, I see things like this

all the time. What's wrong with you people? Kendall, Crowns, Chris, Byers, and Troy Slayton? You think the stripper's in love with you? Never mind. No, I don't think any stripper's in love with you? Never mind. No, I don't think any stripper's in love with me, personally. I've never been to a strip club.

Is that Kendall Crowns? And I've been married to my wife for 25 years. Yes. God bless you. And I've only been to strip clubs with a subpoena in my hand looking for somebody. And I also went in the daylight hours, and they're really nasty with the lights on. But that's a whole nother can of worms. What is wrong with these people, Jen, man?

No one wants to get impetigo, by the way. What, Crowns? What? I said no one wants to get impetigo. I mean, you know, skin surface infections. My goodness. Those strip clubs, I'm sure, are very unclean. Who wants to go in there?

Now, there's a true expert. He can work in a skin condition into a stripper on a pole. Okay, go ahead, Jen, man. Thank you, Dr. Crowns. Jen, what is wrong with these men? Well, I think that, you know, I remember a friend who kind of, like you were saying, an acquaintance that i once knew who was having an affair with a much younger woman and what he kind of said was when i see myself reflected

in this young much younger woman's eyes i feel young and i think that a lot of these men who make choices like this are guys who are feeling the clock ticking. They're feeling they're getting older. They're feeling afraid that they're going to be dying soon. They're feeling like they've lost their life. I feel like, and they're talking to their dinner table. I'm going to have 360 right now. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How is this going all wrong? Alexis Tereszczuk is one of the women that he was helping named Kelsey Turner.

Yes. And guys, Kelsey Turner, is she or is she not a Playboy Playmate, Alexis? She is a Playboy model. There's a little bit of a difference between the two. Really? You say potato and I say potato. So you're telling me there's a difference between a Playboy playmate and a Playboy model. Well, guess what?

They don't teach that at law school. Take a listen to our cut 17. This is a friend of Kelsey Turner's named Logan Kinison speaking to our friends at Access Hollywood. If there's something that wasn't made for your house, car, and your bills, I mean, what would you say? Would you say Tom Bruchard was Kelsey's sugar daddy? I told him, I said, you know, I think he might be taking advantage. And he said, well, that's OK. I can afford it. But none of them like this Kelsey Turner.

Kelsey Turner. It's my understanding, Alexis Therese Chuck, the renowned psychiatrist is paying not only for an apartment, but a home for her and Salinas. Yep, he was. And he had given her money, cash, over the years, not just a little amount, like hundreds of thousands of dollars just to her. Boy, that is some friend. Take a listen to our cut 10. This is our friends at KSBW.

Kelsey Turner, no stranger to posing for the camera, now posing for her criminal mugshot, accused of brutally beating a man who paid her rent and showered her with money. About 300,000 that I know about and possibly more. Possibly more. Well, take a listen to KSNV News 3, Vegas, I cut 14. The suspect is 25-year-old Kelsey Turner, who's listed as a public figure on Instagram, a model and actress with more than

100,000 followers. What is her relationship with the victim? There is a relationship. At this point, the investigation is extremely active and ongoing, so I'm not going to get into any specifics regarding them. A man who knew the doctor tells the NBC station in Monterey, Burchard was paying the rent on this home in California where Turner, her kids, and her mom once lived and was giving them cash. Anywhere from $2,000 to $4,000 a week

easily. He told me he met Kelsey on a website and met up with her and they talked and they went and had dinner a few times. He says eventually Turner and her family were evicted when Burchard stopped paying rent. She moved to Las Vegas and Burchard went to check on her. Now Turner's in jail, accused of killing him.

So he's not only paying for her house in Salinas, her apartment, but for her whole family to live there. Well, take a listen to what we learned from KSBW, our cut 13, that neighbors say. The actual incident occurred at a residence in the Las Vegas Valley, and then the body was found out by the lake. That home we initially suspected was on Puritan Avenue in Las Vegas. That's based on this arrest record from earlier this year. Turner's then boyfriend arrested for domestic violence. The victim, Turner, with her address listed. I went to that home Monday, neighbors confirming with me.

Police have been to the home several times in the last month, including a CSI unit as recent as this past weekend. The home also matches the neighborhood in Turner's arrest warrant. According to that warrant, Las Vegas police say inside the home they found Burchard's keys, his vest, and blue latex gloves, like these I found in the garbage can outside of the home. Police also found cleaning supplies, blood, a broken door with blood on it, and towels, the same towels that matched the ones in the car with Burchard, Turner's two-door BMW. There was

blood on the passenger seat, the back seat, and in the trunk. That's where Burchard was found with wounds that left a unique pattern on him. So what do you do with that, Troy Slayton, veteran trial lawyer, matching towels? Isn't that quite the coincidence? The towels found in the BMW with the dead body and all the blood match the towels in the home. I would look at who else had access to the home. If I'm defending this Playboy model and her boyfriend, I would want to also know who else was there. And we certainly know that she had roommates in that Las Vegas home. You're incredible. They weren't the only one. You really are incredible. Next, you're going to blame the mailman that delivers the mail. I thought you were going to say, hey, anybody could buy those towels at Macy's. There's absolutely no connection whatsoever. You know, Chris Byers,

former police chief, Johns Creek. Isn't it amazing how after someone is found dead in another location, someone else turns into a neat nick at home. All the bleach, the cleaning supplies, the latex gloves. It's amazing, isn't it? It just inspires you to what? Clean your bathroom and buy a new shower curtain? Yeah, absolutely. It is funny how that happens.

And, you know, one of the things that they just said in that last clip, that was Turner's car he found him. And I don't believe we had touched on that before. So led right back to that house and for it to be cleaned up so nicely, that does raise some serious questions. Kelsey Turner, Playboy Playmate, or as Alexis Tereschuk says, Playboy Model. Well, the boyfriend that you're hearing Chief Chris Byers refer to, John Logan Kinison, decided to speak out. Take a listen to our Cut 19 and our friends at Access Hollywood. When they searched the house, they found blood and cleaning supplies.

What do you think happened? According to Pena, Turner and Kennison instructed her to clean the house while Thomas waited in Turner's car, hoping to be taken to the hospital. She claims it was the last time she saw Thomas alive. Pena subsequently pled guilty to accessory to murder. To Alexis Terescheck, who is Pena? She is the roommate. She's a roommate who also lived in the house with Kelsey and her boyfriend. So Kelsey, Turner, and boyfriend.

I wonder how the psychiatrist felt about that. The boyfriend, John Logan Kennison, they come home with a lot of cleaning supplies and say, clean up pronto. And apparently she does. Well, take a listen to our cut 18. This is Logan Kennison again, right or wrong, speaking to Access Hollywood.

Can you just walk me through the day as you remember it? We were having a party. You know, we have a lot of kids together. Kennison claims that at some point during the gathering, an altercation occurred between the couple's roommate, Diana Pena and Thomas. I was like, we gotta get out of here because, you know, we're always tripping about calling the cops.

Did you leave in Kelsey's car? No, no, we were walking. How do you think that Tom's body ended up in the trunk of Kelsey's car? You're saying Diana killed Dr. Brouchard? Sounds like Troy Slayton. They took a page out of your book. Who's left standing? The roommate.

Blame her. But she took a cheap deal as accessory. So where does that leave the Playboy playmate and the blubber? Pointing the finger at her. She obviously took a deal in order to save her own skin. So I would argue that she can't be trusted. Can't be trusted. She pled guilty to accessory.

So you want me to trust the playboy playmate sleeping with the psychiatrist with the boyfriend in tow? We have somebody who pled guilty to accessory to murder. In exchange for truthful testimony. In exchange for a sweetheart deal. You know, I'm not so sure about that in her skin can correct me tell me again troy slayton whose car was he found in he was found in the playboy playmates a playboy model car i bet that hurt to spit it out didn't it um and who was he sleeping with? If I wanted to frame somebody, Nancy, if I wanted to frame somebody,

where would I want to put the car? So not only does the roommate with no motive at all hide the dead body, she now thinks of framing her roommate. Okay, hold on. Let me think this thing through. So if the roommate did it, why didn't Kelsey Turner report it to 911? Think quick.

Scared. Scared. Scared. Yes. Okay. So all fitting together. So Alexis Tereshak, what's the evidence against the Playboy Playmate? Excuse me, model. Well, the evidence is, is that the roommate was there in the house and she said that Dr. Bouchard was actually, she didn't see it happen, but he was somehow hit in the head, and he was bleeding at their house. And he said he needed to go to the doctor. And so she saw him get in the car, and she saw Kelsey and her boyfriend Logan get in the car. And that was the last time that she saw the doctor alive. Quick couple of questions, Alexis Tereschuk. Think of this as a lightning round. Who was the doctor sleeping with? Kelsey. Kelsey Turner. He was paying for Kelsey

and he was, he was paying for her house and he was paying for her car. I don't know that he was necessarily sleeping with her. Okay. So he was paying for her house in Salinas and her apartment and her BMW car payment, but yet not sleeping with her. Okay. And who had he just cut off financially? Kelsey. Kelsey. Are you on a first name basis now? Yes. Kelsey Turner. Defendant Turner? Playboy model. The Playboy. And who went and bought the cleaning supplies? Turner and the boyfriend bought the cleaning supplies. They brought them home and they asked the roommate to clean up the place. I believe it's how it happened.

So they go buy the cleaning supplies to clean up the blood. He's found in her car and the victim had just cut her off of a $300,000 payday. We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace, Crime Story, signing off. Goodbye, friend. This is an iHeart Podcast.