Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - SHOCK TURN IN BRUTAL MURDER OF MEMPHIS MOM ELIZA FLETCHER

Episode Date: April 22, 2023

Cleotha Henderson, the man accused of killing Memphis mom and teacher Eliza Fletcher  after allegedly kidnapping her, has pleaded not guilty. He also faces charges in separate case from 2021. Henders...on faces charges of murder and kidnapping Fletcher.  In the other case, he faces charges including aggravated rape and kidnapping . Henderson also faces charges of identity theft and of being a convicted felon in possession of a handgun in other cases. Judge Lee Coffee will hear the different cases against Henderson in one courtroom. Joining Nancy Grace today: Matthew Mangino - Attorney, Former District Attorney (Lawrence County), Former Parole Board Member, Author: "The Executioner's Toll: The Crimes, Arrests, Trials, Appeals, Last Meals, Final Words and Executions of 46 Persons in the United States", MattMangino.com, Twitter: @MatthewTMangino Caryn Stark - NYC Psychologist, CarynStark.com, Twitter: @carynpsych, Facebook: "Caryn Stark" Lisa M. Dadio - Former Police Lieutenant, New Haven Police Department, Annie Le Lead Detective, Senior Lecturer, Director of the Center for Advanced Policing and Graduate Program Coordinator, Investigations program, University of New Haven  Rachel D. Fischer - Registered Nurse, Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner (SANE), Expert Witness, Private Investigator, Author: "Taking Back the Pen", Forensic Nursing Consulting and Education LLC, LegalRNConsult.org Dr. Kristen Mittelman - Chief Development Officer, Othram Inc., DNAsolves.com, Twitter: @OthramTech  Dave Mack - Crime Online Investigative Reporter  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. In the last days, a major development in the case against a man accused of murdering a beautiful young schoolteacher mom, Eliza Fletcher. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM 111. We all remember when Eliza Fletcher was out jogging super early in the morning, between four and five o'clock in the morning,
Starting point is 00:00:48 and then she goes missing. The frantic search ended in the discovery of her body. In the last days, Cleotha Aston Henderson pleads not guilty to the horrific murder of Eliza Fletcher. He appeared at the Shelby County Criminal Court charged with multiple offenses. This, as we know, the convicted felon is also accused of raping Alicia Franklin back in 2021. Her rape kit sat there basically unnoticed for over a year. Nothing was done. And while he's out walking free, never jailed or tried on her rape, he finds Eliza
Starting point is 00:01:39 Fletcher and doesn't settle with just attacking her. He murders her as well. Again, Cleotha Aston Henderson, age 38, arraigned at the Shelby County Criminal Court on multiple charges, including the rape and kidnap of another woman. Where did it all start? Listen. It's been just over 12 hours since Elijah Fletcher disappeared.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Multiple agencies have joined forces. And I can tell you, there's a lot of concern in the community as time passes by. Where is Eliza Fletcher? That's the question many are asking across the Mid-South after investigators say the avid jogger was abducted. It's very important that if anybody knows the whereabouts of Ms. Fletcher to contact the police immediately. Fletcher was jogging down Central Avenue around 4.30 this morning when investigators say she was approached by someone who forced her into a dark-colored SUV and drove off.
Starting point is 00:02:35 You don't want to hear that that's going on. We want to find her. We don't know. We don't know what's going on. Hart Robinson is a friend of Fletcher and got the news this morning and immediately came to the area of Central Avenue and Zach Curling Street where she was last seen. Everybody's desperately looking for her. The search was on for the missing mom of two, Eliza Fletcher. You were just hearing our friends at WREG Channel 3. There were only two clues left behind. Listen. Fletcher's cell phone and a water bottle were found in front of a home owned by the University of Memphis and a safety alert sent to students. They say she was reported missing after not
Starting point is 00:03:18 returning home from her run. The SUV that she was last seen in was spotted driving westbound down Central Avenue. Multiple agencies, including the FBI, are assisting with the case with one goal in mind. Find Eliza Fletcher. Our concern is to locate Ms. Fletcher. So if anybody knows where she's at, call the police immediately. Really? Just think. Her life could have been spared.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I firmly believe it. And then the frantic search. Listen to our friends at NBC. Around 7.50 a.m., roughly three hours after the abduction, the suspect's brother and another witness telling investigators they saw him wash his clothes in a sink and clean the inside of the car with floor cleaner. According to an affidavit, the brother also saying he was acting very strange. That bizarre scene allegedly unfolding less than a mile from where police discovered the unidentified body late Monday. The affidavit also says Abston left sandals behind,
Starting point is 00:04:16 authorities using DNA from those shoes to zero in on him. So while the frantic search throughout the Memphis area is ongoing for the missing mom, you see Cleotha Abston frantically cleaning the back of his GMC, washing his clothes in his brother's sink. Wow. Isn't that quite the coincidence? And then the gruesome discovery. Our friends WREG. A gut-wrenching discovery in South Memphis as detectives confirm a body was located a few yards away
Starting point is 00:04:55 from where Eliza Fletcher's alleged abductor came hours after her kidnapping. Monday, Memphis police swarmed this area after finding a body in an overgrown lot near a vacant home on Victor Street. The scene just a stone's throw away from where Memphis police say 38-year-old Cleota Absin came hours after abducting Fletcher. They believe he cleaned blood from the interior of the SUV used in the abduction and washed his clothes in his brother's sink. In the past 10 minutes, Memphis police confirming those new details, saying that the body they found yesterday is that of missing mother Eliza Fletcher and now the man they had in custody already charged with her
Starting point is 00:05:37 kidnapping, faces, murder charges. And this is coming just about 16 hours after they discovered a body here. Not far, they said, within walking distance to an apartment complex where 38-year-old Cleotha Abson was seen cleaning his SUV shortly after the abduction. Our friends at Fox 13 joining WREG. When Eliza went missing, the search ensued. You see the defendant, the suspect caught on video, just cleaning, cleaning, scrubbing, scrubbing, trying to get rid of blood. He would need some sort of hydrochloric acid to do that trick. It didn't work.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Blood throughout his SUV. And then a couple hundred yards away, the body of Eliza Fletcher found just discarded in tall grass. Her Lululemon running shorts found in a garbage bag not far away, also discarded. And now, today, we find out her abduction, her likely rape, her murder could have all been avoided. How? Take a listen to our friends at WATN. The man accused of kidnapping and killing Eliza Fletcher is facing three new criminal charges tonight.
Starting point is 00:07:19 The charges are from another case in 2021. In this case, he's facing charges for aggravated rape, kidnapping, and unlawful possession of a gun. Memphis police confirm a sexual assault report was taken on September 21 of 2021. The sexual assault kit was submitted to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigations two days later on September 23rd, but that kit was not tested until he was connected to Eliza Fletcher's disappearance. Did you hear that? Another aggravated kidnap and rape. All the way back, almost a year ago, 2021, a rape kit was taken. It was sent to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigations, the TBI, and not a thing was done.
Starting point is 00:08:12 It sat on a shelf. And in that manila evidence bag, sealed shut with the investigator's initials over it to maintain the chain of custody was the evidence that would have put Cleo the abstin behind bars at the time Eliza was kidnapped and murdered joining me right now an all-star panel to make sense of what we know right now. But first, I want to go to Dave Mack, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter. Dave, what went wrong? Nancy, you know, we talked about how quickly they were able to identify the DNA of Cleotha Abston
Starting point is 00:09:02 on the slides that they found at the kidnapping scene for Eliza Fletcher. They turned that around in less than 18 hours. From the moment they found the slides to the moment they identified the DNA coming from Cleotha Abston. In the case from September 21st, 2021, a woman reported the rape. They did a rape kit. And 48 hours later, on September 23rd, the rape kit was submitted to the TBI DNA case files. The problem is, unless they order a rush on the DNA, it goes into the regular file. Just stop. No offense, Dave Matt, but I really don't want to hear that because that is all BS.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I know you're reporting what the TBI wants me to hear. But when it comes to a life-threatening violent crime, why is there a wait? I pay half my paycheck every year and have been since I was a lowly assistant in the district attorney's office. Since before that when I worked at the library at Mercy University. Why do I pay taxes? So Cleotha Abston can walk free and murder Eliza Fletcher, leaving her two children with no mother? You know how much that screws a kid up forever? And you're telling me it sounds like with a straight face that it was in line to get analyzed? You know what? I don't want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:10:47 She's dead. And she endured a horrible death. That SUV was covered in blood. I put money on it. She was forcibly raped, likely sodomized as well. Why? Because of a line, a queue for evidence? Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. For those of you just joining us,
Starting point is 00:11:20 Cleotha Aston Henderson, age 38, has just pled not guilty to first-degree murder in the disappearance and death of a billionaire heiress. He also appeared in court in connection with the rape of another young woman he abducted, Alicia Franklin, in 2021. Ashton Henderson accused of killing elementary school teacher Eliza, just 34, after forcing her into his car while she was out for an early morning jog this past September. He was then indicted January 25
Starting point is 00:11:59 on charges of especially aggravated kidnapping, being a convicted felon in possession of a firearm, and tampering with evidence. I just keep thinking about Eliza Fletcher's two little children and that moment when she's kidnapped and forced into a black SUV in the dark of the early morning hours. Surveillance video shows her jogging along, and then suddenly she's missing.
Starting point is 00:12:28 The judge in this case, Judge Lee Coffey, looked out at Fletcher's family who of course were in court for the not guilty plea, telling Eliza's family the case would be a very quote long journey. His words were, this is going to be a long journey. These cases do not resolve themselves in a brief period of time. I just hate what this family is going through. But I hate more than that, these children being raised without their mom and a beautiful young life cut short because this devil was out walking free. So Lisa Daddio, the director of the Center for Advanced Policing and graduate program coordinator, University of New Haven. Lisa, could you please interpret what Dave Matt was just trying to say? Honestly, Nancy, the police department messed up on that one.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And, you know, I really don't. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Messed up. Let's just analyze what you just said. Messed up. This is more than just messing up. They didn't fall through the cracks. They screwed up horribly and Eliza is dead because they couldn't analyze a rape kit. To Rachel D. Fisher joining me, special guest, registered nurse, sex assault nurse examiner.
Starting point is 00:14:06 She's an expert witness. She's author of Taking Back the Pen. And you can find her at LegalRNConsult.org. Rachel, do you ever get tired of hearing about one fail after the next? You deal with rape victims every day. And I keep screaming it from the rooftops. A rape victim is never the same. Like a child molestation victims, yes, they can go on about life.
Starting point is 00:14:38 They seem like they're having a normal life. But they're never the same after a rape. Maybe you can say it better than me, Rachel. Yeah, the impact that a victim has after being assaulted, it's lifelong. It never goes away. A murder is one thing. That's the end result.
Starting point is 00:14:57 But there are people living with the effects of this for the rest of their lives. And it comes down to the fact that jurisdictions, communities don't put an emphasis on crimes of violence against women or the vulnerable. These sex crimes are just tossed aside. There's not proper funding. We don't adequately staff our law enforcement agencies
Starting point is 00:15:17 or crime labs. And then the statutes, I mean, Tennessee, you don't even have to, the law enforcement agency does not even have to turn over the kit until 60 days to the crime lab. So the statutes are showing, okay, there's not a priority. What can happen in 60 days? A lot can happen. Other rapes can happen. Yeah, like Eliza Fletcher can get murdered. And you know, another thing, Rachel D. Fisher, who is a rape, sex assault nurse examiner. It's a very, very specialized area.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I wonder what that says to the rape victim, like Cleotha Abstin's other rape victim. I mean, we already know of one when he was nearing adulthood, this one in September 2021. I wonder how that rape victim felt when she would call and say, what's the status of my brutal rape case? And she said, oh, and she hears, oh yeah, well, it's in the queue. It's like you're at Target and there's a long line or you're at Kroger and the line wraps around the cash register. Uh-uh. No, she's not buying a dozen apples. She's trying to find out about her rape case that forever altered her life and she gets told, yeah, you're in the line. They'll analyze it. Meanwhile, this guy is walking free. What am I gibberish, Karen Stark?
Starting point is 00:16:45 Because I feel like I'm not getting through. I don't think I can scream any louder in a studio. Karen Stark joining me. I'm now a psychologist out of New York at KarenStark.com. That's Karen with a C. Karen, help me, please. Nancy, you're not talking gibberish. This is how it happens.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I feel like crying and fighting and hitting someone all at the same time. People don't take it seriously enough. Here's something that will damage someone's life forever. And I don't understand because police are supposed to be trained. They're supposed to know that they need to do something right away. And it is outrageous, just outrageous, that they did not make sure that that came back as soon as possible. And who knows what else he was up to, Nancy. Oh, oh, this is the tip of the iceberg. Karen, Karen, Karen Stark. This guy, Cleotha Abston, started committing violent felonies at age 11. That we know of.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And, you know, Matthew Mangino, I'm not asking you to speak. I'm just referring to you. Former prosecutor, now civil and defense attorney and author, he would argue, oh, he was just 11, the sweet little boy. You know, I might buy that at 11, 12, 13, 14, but then at 16, 17, 18, I'm not buying it anymore. So Karen Stark, when people say he started his one-man crime wave at age 11, how many rapes has this guy committed culminating in the murder of Eliza Fletcher? And Magino, don't even bother jumping in and saying he's innocent until proven guilty. I know that.
Starting point is 00:18:42 We all know that. And I believe there is a snowball's chance in hell that he may not be guilty. Okay. So that said, what Karen Stark? This is outrageous. And people do. You know that. Psychopaths start at an early age. So it doesn't surprise me that this began at 11. The outrageous part of this is that he is not already under lock and key. Walking free to grab a license. Okay, so what is the excuse? Take a listen to our friend Marcus Hunter. Scientists pulled the recently tested kit matching Absinthe Henderson for analysis nine months after it was received on June 24th and completed an initial report of the results on August 29th.
Starting point is 00:19:33 The sample was then entered into CODIS, which returned a match on September 5th, which was within hours of Memphis police finding Fletcher's body on Victor Street. And 49 weeks after, MPD submitted the rape kit to TBI. The match of the September 21 assault came back to Cleotha Abson Henderson. The results were then reported to Memphis police. According to court documents, he was indicted on charges of aggravated rape, especially aggravated kidnapping and gun charges in connection to the crime. You know, it's just all blah, blah, blah words. Now, am I supposed to believe Matthew Mangino?
Starting point is 00:20:18 I'm coming to you just as a legal expert. Don't put on your defense hat yet. Okay. Because we all know you're a former prosecutor, former parole board member, author of the executioner's toll. So please don't start telling me he was only 11 years old when he committed his first felony. I'll just say that for the shrink. What? You know, all this is BS, right? Because they're saying that it was just a coincidence that when Eliza Fletcher goes missing, they go, oh, you know what? You're at the front of the line now. Let's do that DNA kit.
Starting point is 00:20:54 No, that's not a coincidence. There's no such thing in criminal law. So they're trying to tell me that Eliza goes missing. And then they go, wow, I think it's time that we do the DNA on that file way back there on the shelf. What really happened, Mangino? Well, I think what really happened is they were able to find DNA on the sandals that were found at the crime scene. And they immediately did an analysis. I'm not talking about that. Matthew, Cleotha Aston, DNA is on a September 2021 rape victim.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Okay? Right. So why, when Eliza gets kidnapped and there's a search going on, do they go, wow, I think I'll run that DNA test. That's total BS. Why did they suddenly decide to run it then? You know, to cover their butts. I mean, they failed. This was a systemic failure to test DNA that was found at a crime scene.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And as simple as just running a CODIS. Combined DNA Index System. Exactly. Yeah. It was cover your ass. That's what it was. Yeah. And I'm just wondering, Matthew Mangino,
Starting point is 00:22:21 why did they select that particular rape kit to suddenly test? I'm guessing that that rape occurred in the same MO, Modus Operandi, method of operation, as Eliza's kidnap, that the victim may have described the same kind of vehicle. Something about that rape kit, about that rape, maybe it was in the same kind of vehicle. Something about that rape kit, about that rape. Maybe it was in the same area. I don't know. But something made them reach back on that shelf
Starting point is 00:22:54 and pull out that file and perform that DNA test and submit it to CODIS, the Combined DNA Index System. Before I go to special guest Dr. Kristen Middleman from Othram Labs, I want to circle back to Rachel D. Fisher, Registered Sex Assault Nurse Examiner. Rachel, could you please describe what is the procedure that you go through when you examine a rape victim and what is a rape kit? When a rape victim comes to the hospital, we do a head-to-toe assessment and a detailed genital exam
Starting point is 00:23:30 where we collect evidence from all the intimate parts of the body and anywhere based on the history. We submit this kit to law enforcement and law enforcement... Slow down, please. As I like to say, Rachel, we're not having tea at Highgrove with King Charles. Okay? When you say we collect DNA from all parts of the terrified, then has to go for a rape kit. Then it's basically a pelvic exam and it takes a long time.
Starting point is 00:24:17 What do you have to do? It's a very intrusive exam. We spread their legs. We touch. We look. We examine. We go into all the genitalia. We touch. We look. We examine. We go into all the genitalia. We swab.
Starting point is 00:24:29 We insert speculums. It's re-traumatizing for the victim, essentially, is what it is, because we're going back into these places. Okay, wait a minute. See, you are an expert, and when you just roll off comments like that. Not everybody knows what you mean. When you say a speculum, isn't that kind of like a reverse eyelash curler where you squinch the curler together? Instead, a speculum is something you stick inside the lady's vagina and anus, and then you open up those female cavities and then you go in there
Starting point is 00:25:08 basically with a searchlight like a flashlight and you look around with a really long q-tip and you look in there and you try and find with a swab. Yeah, everybody in the studio is grimacing and looking away right now for a reason. And you swab around inside the anus and the vagina and hopefully you will get naked to the human eye
Starting point is 00:25:39 sperm. DNA. Right? That's the intent to get any sort of DNA off of the internal orifices of the patient, yeah. And that includes the anus, correct? We do also swab the anus, yes. And then you have the rape kit combing
Starting point is 00:25:58 as if I would comb my hair. What is that? We take a comb and we go through the head hair, the pubic hair, getting any debris that can link it back to potentially the scene of where it happened to corroborate that as well. Sometimes we do plucking of the hair in order to get DNA as well. So it's a very painful, intrusive exam in some points of it. But when the victims are that brave enough to come in for that, that's right there, the first step in their healing. And the first victim of this case with the positive hit was brave enough to do that.
Starting point is 00:26:34 So I can only imagine her seeing this, that she was brave enough to go in and then nobody tested it until it was too late. I can only imagine what she's feeling right now. She was brave enough to do that initial rape kit back then, over a year ago, and here we are. And the only way her case was finally processed was because Eliza was murdered. It took a murder to get her rape kit done. That's the harsh truth of what we're dealing with. Rachel D. Fisher, could you please describe the spectrum of demeanors your rape victim patients have displayed?
Starting point is 00:27:15 They come in sometimes completely with no affect, meaning their face does not smile, they don't frown, they're just quiet, they don't make eye contact. Sometimes they laugh, they're distracting themselves, sometimes they're crying trauma presents in very different ways and each victim is different and I've seen law enforcement or even say well she doesn't seem like anything happened we're not even sure if it's real because of her demeanor like you I've heard it all but each victim processes their trauma differently so regardless of how they respond to it, if they're brave enough to come get an intrusive exam in a busy ER and have an examiner stick things into their bodies, something happened. Nobody willingly does that.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Regardless of what their demeanor is, they're there for help, and we help them all the same. And we prioritize it on our end and then we do the next step in our process is handed over to law enforcement for them to do their due diligence which is supposed to be to take it to the crime lab but Tennessee has a statute that they have 60 days for it to sit on their shelf before they're mandated to give it to the crime lab Karen Stark you know I'm thinking of these rape victims. When it's so horrible, they can't even begin to grapple with it, Karen Stark. That's right, Nancy.
Starting point is 00:28:34 It is, they disassociate, and you really can't pay attention to how someone reacts to trauma and to death because everyone, each one of us is very, very different. And there are people that cry. Think about, you know, when people sometimes get nervous and they start laughing and they're not laughing because it's funny. It's just their response. They have no choice. That's how they deal with that kind of a situation. And that's what you're describing. I've been to funerals where somebody was so angry at the death of their spouse. They were furious. And you would never know that this was happening because they're grieving and loving and in pain.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And it all gets mixed up when they have to deal with this kind of a situation. Terrible. And now, having spoken to the rest of our panel, I'm going to lay it all in your lap. Dr. Kristen Middleman, she is the Chief Development Officer at the highly respected Authoram, Inc. You can find them at DNAsolves.com. One of their specialties, I have learned, is taking old or degraded DNA and somehow pulling a miracle and getting a match. I'm talking about DNA that's been in mud, been underwater, been through a fire 50, 60 years old, and they have the technology to bring us justice. crime stories with nancy grace the judge was right judge lee coffee this is going to be a very long road to hoe for Eliza's family.
Starting point is 00:30:57 The key locations in the kidnap case, first of all, on Central Avenue, where Eliza was snatched and forced into a GMC terrain. Trash bags were found on South Orleans Street. Trash bags containing her purple Lululemon shorts. Her shorts were there. It tells me she was raped. Interesting, I haven't heard that he's charged with rape. Then there is 1666 Victor Street. Her body is found in tall grass next to an abandoned building where I'm pretty sure he was spotted at that building by witnesses.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Then there's Person Ave and Marjory Street. That's where the GMC terrain was last seen, turning left onto Person Ave. I'm pretty sure there's going to be video surveillance of that. Then another spot of interest, the jury may very well go see these locations, like the Alex Murdoch jury went to go see the dog kennels at the Moselle Hunting Lodge. 1765 South Orleans Street, defendant absentee, meticulously cleaning a GMC at his brother's apartment. Just thinking about how the husband realized she hadn't come back from the jog and was trying to take care of the children, wondering where is mommy. Her obituary described her, this young school teacher,
Starting point is 00:32:20 as the, quote, born athlete who found great joy in her morning runs and was not afraid when she ran we know not only is cleo the absent charged with the kidnap and rape of another woman court documents reveal he was previously convicted of raping a man when he was a teenager. This guy, now 38, was 11, 11 years old when he first appeared in the Shelby County Juvenile Court, charged with theft. He quickly graduated to rape, aggravated assault, unlawful possession of a weapon, and now murder. Dr. Kristen Middleman, first of all, I want to know how they made the match and what likely statistical identification we have of Cleotha Abston and any insight you can give us as to why they so horribly failed the first rape victim, well, the last rape victim that we know of, and Eliza. How did that happen?
Starting point is 00:33:31 I mean, you deal with this kind of thing every day. And we are. We're going to deal with this kind of thing every single day. and everyone here at Austin believe that it's an outrage that we do not have the technology implemented that would be able to stop this from happening. You know, we talk about this every single day, but the CODIS testing system was created 30 years ago, and nothing new has come to forensics since in order to help these investigators. You know, you say the investigators might have failed. I don't think the investigators are failing.
Starting point is 00:34:09 We work with these guys every single day. In fact, we work with CDI, and they work day and night trying to make things work. They're not given the technology that's necessary to be able to clear these cases at scale. The government is who's failing. The government has failed to fund and adopt new technologies that would allow the backlogs to truly clear. We have backlogs everywhere because this technology, the way that it's written right now, is not scalable. You can't hire enough people
Starting point is 00:34:38 to run every single test immediately and have a result in eight hours. It's just not possible. But there is new technologies possible. But there is new technologies here. Ours is one of the new technologies that could help clear a lot of the backlog that gets stuck when there's no DNA answer. But there are other new technologies here. Could you imagine doing this podcast on computers from 30 years ago? No, you wouldn't. You would get the new computer. You would get the best mic. You would do the next best thing. You would do it just for your business. Why isn't forensics changing? Okay, hold on, Dr. Middleman. It is far, far beyond me, your knowledge regarding DNA and scientific testing, but I'm not asking for a result in eight hours.
Starting point is 00:35:27 What about eight days? What about eight weeks? What about eight months? This was a year. The last rape victim that we know of of Cleotha Astens was September 2021. It is now September 2022. And you're preaching to the choir, Dr. Middleman. I spent a third of my time as a prosecutor at the Georgia State Crime Lab.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And can I tell you, those people work like dogs. Scientists in ballistics, in fiber analysis, hair analysis, DNA, blood, you name it. They work like dogs. They already work overtime. What more do we want them to do? So where is the fail? And I guarantee you, the TBI, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, Crime Lab, is the same. So how is it he's walking the street to with a bicycle? It would never happen.
Starting point is 00:36:45 It's not possible. But if there were cars and planes and roads and everything else there and the infrastructure put all together, then you could deliver that mail all over the United States. Unfortunately, we are at the bicycle state of forensic science when it comes to solving these backlogs with sex assaults and murders. DNA testing is at its infancy still, and there are so many ways. I mean, our technology, we don't need a CODIS database to identify someone. You don't have to have raped someone else in order for us to identify you. That's the biggest key. You can rape one person and get identified the very, very first time. Yet our technology isn't widely used everywhere because people scream all sorts of stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Oh, well, it's new. We don't know if it works. Oh my God, privacy. Oh, this, oh that. Well, the government's slow in funding it. I want the perpetrator in jail the first time they commit a crime. I don't want to have to wait
Starting point is 00:37:38 till the second victim and the third victim or the 11th or 12th victim. And trust me, we've identified those as well. They're encoded so many, many times that no one's ever identified them. They come to us finally, and now they're identified and all these crimes are solved. That's devastating. You're hearing the voice of Dr. Kristen Middleman, Chief Development Officer at Authram Lab. You can find her at DNA solves dot com explaining how we don't even need another rape or murder to identify Cleo Aston from his last rape last September. But it was never done.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Take a listen to Marcus Hunter W.R.EREG. The TBI accepts Rush DNA cases when requested by a local investigative agency as we did in the recent Eliza Fletcher case. It went on to say our scientists identified Cleotha Abstin as a suspect less than 18 hours after receiving key evidence. The agency said the sample they received in September of last year was not submitted as a rush case. Therefore, it was placed with the standard casework, which can have an average turnaround of 33 to 49 weeks. So, Lisa Daddio, what does it take to be a rush case? I mean, Cleota Abston in court on new charges of a violent rape and as they say, especially dangerous kidnap. Why was that not a rush case back in September 2021?
Starting point is 00:39:13 It should have been. When you have a stranger rape and given the circumstances of what we know, that should have been a rush because we know they're going to hit again. It's not just one and done. So I don't understand how that case was not rushed to try to identify the who. A violent rape, a brutal kidnapping is not a rush. Then what is? It took this before we knew the truth. It took this before that rape kit was tested listen our friends at fox 13 an affidavit reveals new details about fletcher's final moments investigators say data from the fbi cast team which is used to track cell phones led them to east person avenue and victor street while searching that area mond, just after 5, they say officers
Starting point is 00:40:06 noticed high grass at a vacant home, as well as vehicle tracks in the high grass. Officers also smelled an odor of decay. We're told the officers fanned out and walked to the back of the property. Immediately to the right of the steps, they say they found a woman's body to give you an idea why it was so hard for officials to find her is because even though they're in the middle of a neighborhood you can see there's very tall grass shielding the view from the street i'm five five take a look at this grass it's towering over. Then there's this abandoned home and we're told Fletcher's remains were found behind this house. Walk with me so you can see beside these steps here and you can even see an imprint in the dirt right here. Well, he's going to rot in hell with a little pit
Starting point is 00:41:00 stop in the penitentiary. I just pray right now for those two little children who miss their mommy, Eliza. We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye, friend. This is an iHeart Podcast.

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