Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Teen Girl Feared Burger King Night Shift, Gunned Down in Cold Blood
Episode Date: January 12, 2022A teen girl asks her boss to be moved off the late shift at Burger King because she is afraid. Just before that change is set to take place, 19-year-old Kristal Bayron-Nieves is shot and killed durin...g a robbery. An armed and masked robber enters the restaurant at 116th Street and Lexington Avenue, around 1 a.m. demanding cash. He is given $100. He then shoots the teen in the stomach, killing her, pistol-whips a male customer before punching a female manager in the face, according to police said. No arrests made so far.Joining Nancy Grace Today: Nathalie Pagan - Victim's Family Friend, gofundme.com/f/funeral-de-kristal Matthew Mangino - Attorney, Former District Attorney (Lawrence County), Author: "The Executioner's Toll: The Crimes, Arrests, Trials, Appeals, Last Meals, Final Words and Executions of 46 Persons in the United States" Dr. Shari Schwartz - Forensic Psychologist (specializing in Capital Mitigation and Victim Advocacy), www.panthermitigation.com, Twitter: https://twitter.com/TrialDoc, Author: "Criminal Behavior" and "Where Law and Psychology Intersect" Justin Boardman - Former Special Victim's Unit Detective, West Valley City (Utah), Author: "I Was Wrong: An Investigator's Battle-cry for Change Within the Special Victims Unit", JustinBoardman.com, Twitter: @boardman_train Dr. Michelle DuPre - Former Forensic Pathologist, Medical Examiner, and Detective: Lexington County Sheriff's Department, Author: "Homicide Investigation Field Guide" & "Investigating Child Abuse Field Guide", Forensic Consultant DMichelleDupreMD.com Tina Moore - New York Post Police Bureau Chief, Twitter: @TinaMooreReport Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Why did a 19-year-old girl have to die?
Yeah, most of us worked our way through college.
I know in law school, I had three jobs.
And one of those jobs was at a sandwich shop.
And it was situated in a big parking lot in an L-shaped strip center.
And the sandwich shop was on the very end of the strip center.
And every other store in that strip center would close around 6 p.m., but the sandwich shop where
I worked stayed open until 11. And I remember sitting there, everything outside was dark,
and I would be sitting there all alone with the lights on
in this sandwich shop.
And I remember hating being there all alone.
And there would be, you know, an hour or two when no one would come through.
It's like you're sitting duck.
I'm talking, of course, about 19-year-old Crystal Nieves, just a beautiful 19-year-old girl.
She had told her mom that she did not like working alone at night. But who would have ever believed
that someone would come along and kill her? I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM 111. First of all, take a listen to our friends at CBS2.
As the rain trickled down, the family of 19-year-old Crystal Bayron Nieves gathered
outside the Burger King where she was killed to lay flowers in her honor and to pray for justice.
Police have
released these images of the robbery that took place just before one Sunday morning at the Burger
King on East 116th Street near Lexington Avenue. That's where Bayron Nieves was working as a cashier
when an unknown male, masked and dressed in all black, entered the restaurant and demanded money.
Police say Bayron Nieves was shot in the torso as the robbery progressed. Police say two other
people were injured during the course of this robbery.
A female manager at the restaurant was punched in the face,
and a male customer was likely pistol whipped.
Both are expected to recover.
Family members tell us Bayron Nieves and her family had just moved to New York from Puerto Rico a few years ago.
The teenager had only been working at Burger King for the past few months.
The family is now pleading with the person responsible to turn themselves in.
Well, I can tell you right now, with the person responsible to turn themselves in.
Well, I can tell you right now, he's not going to turn himself in. He's looking at a murder charge and more. Again, thank you for being with us here at Crime Stories. With me, an all-star panel to
make sense of what we know right now. And two very special guests I'd like to start with. First of all, the family friend speaking for the victim's family,
Nathalie Pagan is with us and Tina Moore from the New York Post with the Police Bureau
Chief. Thank you so much for being with us. To Police Bureau Chief at the New York Post,
Tina Moore. Tina, what can you tell me about what we know happened right now?
Well, it looks like the gunman came in early Sunday morning to the Burger King and he punched a female manager and pissed and whipped another person and pulled a gun.
It was actually the gun.
It was him pointing the gun at the clerk, you know, who was behind the counter.
And then at some point she gave him $100.
He walked away, but then he turned around and shot her anyway.
And it's just not clear.
I'm really unclear what happened in that couple of minutes,
but he's in the wind.
So there's no sign of him.
Photos really, you can't see them in the pictures.
The cops released.
So they're trying sign of them. Photos, really, you can't see them in the pictures the cops released. So they're
trying to find them. Still no arrest in the
case. So Tina
Moore, joining me, Police Bureau Chief
with the New York Post,
he was wearing dark clothes
and a face mask. So
he couldn't be identified, but even
after, even after
Crystal turns over a $100 bill to him, he turns back around and shoots her dead.
Yes, yes.
Okay, to Nathalie Pagan joining us, a dear friend of the victim's family.
Nathalie, when did Crystal's family find out what had happened. And they say no. When they say no, she wake up her boyfriend.
And so she wake up her boyfriend.
And she said that he started talking.
And when she went to him, he was crying a lot.
And when she saw him crying a lot, she say, oh, something happened to my daughter.
Right.
And he say yes.
And? They don't let us recognize the body and nothing that day. They just tell us that they tried to do everything for her, but she wasn't responding.
To Justin Borman, former Special Victims Unit detective joining us,
and he is the author of I Was Wrong, Investigators' Battle Cry for Change in the SVU.
Justin, thank you for being with us.
Can you even imagine getting that call in the middle of the night, knowing that something's wrong, getting up in
the wee morning hours, going to the hospital, and you're not allowed to see your daughter
or identify her body? You're just there. Absolutely not. What a horrific way to first off, what a horrific thing to have happened.
But what a horrific way to find out that your daughter had passed.
I'm I'm stunned. Absolutely not best practice.
That's certainly putting perfume on the pig, Justin. Not best practice. Right. You say that again. But the mind of what went through this killer, who, again, as you heard the police bureau chief with the New York Post state, he's, quote, in the wind.
He's on the run.
And while people are making public pleas for him to turn himself in, that's not going to happen.
There is no way.
That ain't going to happen.
No, that ain not going to happen. There is no way. That ain't going to happen. No, that ain't going to happen.
To Dr. Sherry Schwartz joining me, forensic psychologist who specializes in criminal psychology,
her book, Criminal Behavior, and her other book, Where Law and Psychology Intersect.
Dr. Sherry Schwartz, thank you for being with us.
I don't understand why the guy gets the money. This little girl hands over. She's 19
years old. He gets the money and then turns back around and shoots her dead. Well, that defies
logic to those of us who don't engage in violence repeatedly. But sometimes the robbery almost in
cases like this feels sort of incidental, secondary to the violence, that the perpetrator is more interested in the violence than they are the profit.
That's not a satisfying explanation, but we know from researching, you know, characteristics of perpetrators that this sometimes in these types of offenses is true.
And to Matthew Mangino, former district attorney in Lawrence County, now private attorney and author of The Executioner's Toll.
Matthew, thank you for being with us.
This is clearly premeditated.
He shows up dressed all in dark clothing, his face covered with a weapon.
Why does he need a weapon, a gun in Burger King?
This was late at night.
He waited until there was a female unarmed on duty at the
cash register, and then he struck. There's no way this is going to be manslaughter, much less
involuntary manslaughter. This was premeditated. He lay in wait for the right moment. Well, yeah,
I mean, this is no question. There's no reason to kill this young woman.
I mean, he's in there. His face is covered. He's not trying to do away with someone who might be able to identify him.
This is just a cold blooded murder. You know, the reason cannot be justified under any circumstances that I could imagine in this particular case.
No, not at all. Take a listen to our cut number four, Jessica Cunningham, NBC4.
We now know that Crystal Baron Nieves was that 19-year-old who was killed during this armed
robbery. And I'm told she just started the job here at this Burger King not too long ago. Now,
the gate is down on the Burger King shop because the manager says they're going to be closed for the rest of the day.
But I want to show you some video of the scene overnight and early this morning when investigators were combing this entire scene.
Again, this is a Burger King right at 116th and Lexington.
And you can see in this video the crime scene was still blocked off here,
this entire corner.
Police say a man walked into that Burger King
with a gun and demanded money.
They say he shot Crystal,
who was behind the register at the time,
and then shoved and pistol whipped a female manager
who was also working,
and the customer inside at the time.
A worker tells me investigators got the surveillance video
they needed from inside the store,
but says the suspect was fully masked
and was wearing gloves as well.
Masks and gloves.
This was premeditated.
It was no spur of the moment incident. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Guys, we also know that this young girl, just 19 years old, family had moved from Puerto Rico to, quote, seek a better life
for the teen girl in the United States. Hadn't been here on the job, but for about three weeks
when she is gunned down by a masked assailant after he gets the money. And as Dr. Sherry Schwartz
was pointing out, it's not about the money.
He did this for the joy of killing someone, the pure joy of killing someone.
Take a listen to our cut three from ABC seven.
The man suspected in a deadly armed robbery at a Burger King in East Harlem. Cameras recorded the suspect in all black waving a gun around this morning at about 1 at 116th Street and Lexington Avenue. Police say the suspect
opened fire behind the restaurant counter, fatally shooting 19-year-old cashier Crystal
Beiran Nieves. Police say the suspect also punched a manager in the face and pistol-whipped a
customer. The shooter ran away with an unknown amount of
cash. This is what is bizarre, almost eerie. Straight out to Dr. Michelle Dupree, forensic
pathologist, former medical examiner, detective, author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide.
Dr. Dupree, I don't know how often you have seen this, but I've seen it quite often,
and it's extremely odd. It's not anything that bears any weight in front of a jury, or it's not
probative. It doesn't prove anything, but I find it very, very coincidental. We learn from her
family that this young girl, 19-year-old Crystal, had asked for additional security.
She was afraid working at the Burger King there.
She had asked for security.
She was afraid when she would leave day shift and she had asked the manager to move her off the night shift.
And the manager had done that. The rub is the new schedule was not
supposed to start until that Friday. And this happened just a couple of days before her new
schedule started. To you, Dr. Michelle Dupree, have you ever seen cases where the murder victim
seemingly had a premonition that something terrible was afoot.
Nancy, I certainly have. I've often talked to family members or friends of a loved one who has
passed in a violent manner like this, and they often have almost, as you said, a premonition.
They're afraid of something, but they don't know exactly what, and they may ask for additional
security, or they may say they feel like they're being watched. But this is not uncommon.
To Nathalie Pagan joining us, a very close friend of the victim's family, I understand that
Crystal and her 14-year-old little brother and her mom had moved from Puerto Rico here for a better life for the two teen children
that she had completed her GED, gotten her high school diploma on her own and was working to save
money to buy a car. Is this true? Yes. Did you know, did her mother know, Nathalie, that she was afraid? No, we never knew about nothing that she was feeling afraid and nothing.
That's interesting because other sources have stated to you, Tina Moore, joining us from the New York Post, that she was afraid working there, that she had told family members she was afraid.
She didn't want to work at night.
She wanted security when she had to leave
the building at the Burger King. And she was so afraid, she actually asked the manager to take
her off the night shift. Right. She said there were up to 50 men who would be hanging outside
the store, loitering outside the store, sometimes early in the morning when she would get done. And
she said that it scared her. Our reporter who spoke to the family the day after.
It's just so upsetting.
You've got a teen girl trying her hardest in this country that we believe is the greatest
country in the world on her own.
She goes and gets her GED after having moved here from Puerto Rico to seek a better life.
The mother's working.
She's working.
The little brother is in school.
She begs for more security.
And now this, the tip line to catch Crystal's killer.
What a senseless waste of human life.
800-577-TIPS. 800-577-8477. There is also a GoFundMe. It's Crystal Nieves,
victim of 116th Street Burger King shooting. Take a listen now to Kyron Dillon,
Hour Cut 2 from CBS 2. This shooting is unacceptable.
This mother is hurting.
Her mother, along with family members, were unable to contain their grief
as they were comforted by members of the community.
We are sick and tired of the violence in our community.
When is enough going to be enough?
When are we going to put the guns down?
Chaplain Robert Rice says the family is now in mourning.
I was with the mother all night. I prayed with the family. They're not doing well. This mother
is crying out. You know what I'm saying? This mother is hurting. She's hurting because now she
don't know what to do. The violence has left neighbors shaken. More police officers and
security guards all around the stores around here because people are dangerous. You know, in my mind, Tina Moore,
I appreciate the sentiment, but blah, blah, blah. Screaming into a bullhorn is not going to change
anything. The relaxed bail reform rules where hardened criminals basically give a fingerprint and walk out the front door.
Gun violence is rampant. You heard this little girl afraid because there would be 40 to 50
homeless people, guys, men outside the door of the Burger King when she would try to leave.
Of course she's afraid. But why? Why is it degenerating like this?
I think a lot of people are trying to figure this out right now.
I mean, there are definitely some low-level crimes people are not going to jail for anymore.
There are some good reasons for that, but also this is the result.
And one of the big problems is mental health, and there's not an arm really to deal with that.
There's no program in place.
Well, can I ask you something?
Do we have any evidence, even scintilla, a scrap, a shred of evidence, Tina Moore,
to suggest the guy that was dressed all in black, covering his face, wearing gloves,
goes into the Burger King when it's a lone female
at the cash register,
waits till it's late at
night with the cover of darkness,
clearly premeditates,
pre-plans it, any
suggestion at all
that he had a mental illness.
Because he sounds pretty calm, cool,
and collected to me. He's clearly a cold-blooded
killer. I was talking about the 40 to 50 guys outside the restaurant.
I know the corner.
I live in the area.
I know that some of them are mentally ill.
But this guy, no.
He sounds like a cold-blooded killer.
According to the family, a young man who stopped by to see her at the restaurant
and bring her a flower almost nightly was there when she was killed.
His heart broken, the family's heart broken.
What, if anything, is going to be done?
Well, on our end, we can try to catch her killer.
But it is up to the district attorney, who was soft on crime, the new head of police there, to do something about it, not just sit by and let Crystal's life be taken
in vain. Are they going to do something about it? Sadly, I don't know if they are or not. How many
dead bodies will it take before they wake up and realize what's happening around them? Will it take
somebody that's in their inner circle to be gunned down
like this before they feel the pain that other families are feeling right now? Take a listen to
Hour Cut 5. This is Jessica Cunnington, NBC4. The crime scene unit spent about seven hours
inside the Burger King gathering photos and other evidence, but I did speak with one neighbor who
says he comes to this Burger King all the time
and he brought this white candle here, left it right outside the door to honor the victim
who says she just started working here just about a week ago.
19 years old. I woke up, seen it on my phone and decided to bring a candle down.
I got the white candle because it represents peace.
She didn't deserve what she got. We just need to do something about the violence that's going on
right now. We really do. We really do. Just so sad. And investigators at this moment looking
for the shooter right now. But also it seems that employees or people just trying to
come to this Burger King and are being let in by other employees just to be together and to
console each other again the manager here telling me they are closed for the rest of the day a 19 Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
19 years old.
Do we never learn? It seems like yesterday, the mass killing of employees at
Wendy's in the same jurisdiction. Listen to our friend cut B1 Mary Murphy picks 11.
4012 Main Street is eerily quiet during the pandemic, but Benjamin Nazario always avoids it.
I walk, when I go there, I go on the other side of the street.
20 years ago, 4012 was the site of Wendy's.
The place where Nazario's brother Ramon and six co-workers were shot execution style in a basement freezer.
Me and him were very close.
During a robbery planned by former assistant manager John Taylor.
Taylor and accomplice Craig Godino took the E train to Jackson Heights and
the 7 to Main Street.
John Taylor blamed the shootings on Godino.
I would like to take a polygraph.
I take it right now cuz I know I did not shoot any of those victims in there.
But survivor Jaquan Johnson, just 18 then, recovered from partial paralysis to testify against Taylor.
Johnson saw what happened with his right eye.
I still think about my friends all the time.
And I got to live with that for the rest of my life.
And take a listen again to Mary Murphy, our cut B2.
John Taylor was the last person on New York's death row in 2007.
The Court of Appeals ruled the capital punishment law was unconstitutional.
We're more than 320 miles from Main Street flushing.
And those looming 30 foot concrete walls you see behind me surround the Clinton Correctional Facility,
a maximum security prison where the mastermind of the Wendy's robbery and mass shooting
now lives his days without any chance of parole.
Oh, what? I'm supposed to feel sorry for him?
He murdered mass murder. He murdered multiple people.
For what? What was in the teal at a Wendy's?
To Tina Moore, joining me from the New York Post,
do we never learn?
I got to pay for three hots and a cop for this guy
after a mass murder at a Wendy's,
and now it's happening all over again?
Well, I mean, he is still in jail, as far as I know.
Still in prison, correct?
He's in prison, but he he's alive and they're not i mean i feel like people i feel tina that these fast food
restaurants are an easy target i'll tell you why because very often like me you have very young
inexperienced people working as cashiers at McDonald's, at Wendy's,
at my sandwich shop I told you about. And they're sitting ducks. They're easy prey for cold-blooded
predators, Tina. Yeah, I think so. I think that these chains should be thinking about who they're
scheduling and when. Why is a 19-year-old girl scheduled on the overnight shift? Exactly.
An older person maybe who could do that shift. don't i don't understand that nobody's really
questioned that yet that's actually a really good positive thought something that we can do
to make a difference and not only that when you said that i thought about mandatory security guard
in these fast food restaurants when they're open late at night because we all know, and it's not just anecdotal,
it's statistical that most,
the majority of these type murders and robberies do happen in the cover of
darkness.
Now that's something that can be changed for the positive Tina Moore joining us
from the post,
you know,
senseless killings over what this was a hundred dollar bill to Dr.
Sherry Schwartz. from the post you know senseless killings over what this was a hundred dollar bill to dr sherry
schwartz do you think that predators prey on well obviously they do whether it is intentional
or it's uh subconscious on people that are inexperienced like teens working at cash registers
oh absolutely without a doubt and my what the data would suggest is that this is somebody who's familiar with that area,
who would know when Crystal Shift was, you know, would know that she was potentially would maybe see her going in and out of the restaurant.
And, you know, that fear response that you show body language wise when you're interacting with these 50 or so
homeless men outside. So this is somebody who likely knew that and chose that time and her
shift on purpose. To take no more, what's the latest in trying to find her killer? Oh, I talked
to the police this morning and there's still no arrests. As far as I know, they don't have anybody
in custody. There are a couple of more rewards out for him. Maybe he'll talk about it. But some, you know, that happens with stupid
criminals. They talk about their crimes and then someone turns them in for the money. So that's a
possibility. I'm sure cops, I would imagine police hope that happens. Well, I think you're right
again, Tina Moore, joining us in the New York Post, because it's really hard for criminals to
keep their pie holes shut. So if he brags to
anyone and it gets back, that's at least a lead. Another senseless killing at fast food. Take a
listen to the L.A. Taco Bell case. Hour cut 10. This is Joy Benedict at KCAL. We are told a Taco
Bell employee lost his life simply doing his job it happened here this taco bell behind me in
south los angeles you can see over the left hand side that drive-thru window is all shot up we are
told that is where someone in the drive-thru simply opened fire inside killing the 41 year
old worker take a look at this video from last night it all happened at about 11 p.m that's
when investigators say someone had come through the drive-thru. They placed an order. When they pulled up to the window, investigators say
that individual in the vehicle attempted to hand that employee some sort of a counterfeit bill.
The employee refused to take it and then declined them service. And that is when we are told that
individual pulled out a gun and fired numerous shots through the window of the drive-thru of the Taco Bell
and unfortunately shot and killed that worker inside.
We don't have a lot of information about the man who died here.
We just know that he was 41 years old.
He worked here at this Taco Bell and he was working that drive-thru window last night when all of this took place.
I can tell you something else about him.
He lost his life over a $20 counterfeit
bill. A fake bill. I can tell you this. Working alongside him that night at the drive-thru,
his teen boy son sees dad gunned down. You don't think that's going to be in his mind the rest of
his life? Take a listen to our cut 11, our friends at Fox 11.
Family has identified the victim as 41-year-old Alejandro Garcia.
They say that he was a family man, a father of three, and a hard worker.
He worked at the Taco Bell one night out of the week to provide for his family,
and now his family is mourning his death.
He was a hardworking man, a family man, and for him just to die, it's just horrible.
Horrible and inconceivable.
Nancy Del Sol's cousin, 41-year-old Alejandro Garcia, was shot and killed on the job at
a Taco Bell Saturday night in South L.A.
He was working the evening shift alongside his 19-year-old son.
The way that he died in front of his son, it was really, really traumatic experience for my nephew.
You know, to you, Justin Boardman, joining us, former Special Victims Unit detective.
Justin, I remember my dad working the swing shift, or as he called it, I guess it was the third trick.
And he would get in, work all night for the railroad and get in early the next morning as we were leaving for school.
Sometimes to do the second trick and he'd be getting home at
midnight, just working so hard to put us through school and to pay for the house payment and
the car payment.
And it's just devastating.
Like in this case with Crystal, people trying to make a better life for themselves and their
family, just gunned down over what?
$100 out of the register?
A $20 counterfeit bill?
I don't get it, Justin.
I wish I had all the answers.
I don't either.
I don't get it.
Certainly they need to be wiped out the streets and put away. And, you know, what kills me the most about this
is these, you know,
regular Joes that are really trying hard
to make ends meet,
try to do things for their family,
work an extra shift a week
at a Taco Bell to save some money
to go do fun things with their family
and to die over a fake $20 bill over a taco.
Somebody basically was killed over a taco.
Insane.
Insane.
Over a taco.
Yes, you're right. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
To you, Dr. Michelle Dupree, joining us, medical examiner.
Dr. Dupree, in the case of Crystal and in the case that we're talking about right now, the Taco
Bell case, how long
would the victims have survived?
I mean, I
don't think Crystal was alive when she got to
the hospital. And I know
that the father
at Taco Bell died
with the blood out in his
son's arms. Well, Nancy, that's a
very good question.
Of course, it depends on where the injury occurred, how serious it was.
But oftentimes, it's really within minutes, which is fortunate.
Do you know what's happening?
Do you lose consciousness?
Do you just black out?
Or do you know you're dying?
Eventually, of course, you do lose consciousness.
And the time depends on, again, how significant the injury is. But yes, typically, you do know you're dying. Eventually, of course, you do lose consciousness. And the time depends on, again, how significant the injury is.
But yes, typically, you do know you're dying.
To Matthew Mangino joining us, former prosecutor, the district attorney in Lawrence County, now private attorney and author.
It just seems to me like the same thing happens over and over and over.
We elect politicians to do something, not just live off our tax money.
Well, yeah, I agree. And, you know, the question here, Nancy, is the common denominator here
is guns. I mean, we can't ignore this. We've talked about Burger King and Wendy's and Taco Bell, all tragic incidents, all people who were gunned down.
You know, how do we get these guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them?
People who are going to use those to commit crimes, to murder people.
You know, whether this was a premeditated murder that occurred in Burger King or whether this was a robbery that went awry,
the common denominator is guns. If those guys in a vehicle who were arguing about a counterfeit
$20 bill didn't have guns, no one would have been harmed inside of inside of the the Taco Bell I mean you have you can't throw a
knife through the window of a drive-thru to kill somebody it's the guns that are creating the
havoc and gun violence is rising in major cities across the country you know in Philadelphia and
Indianapolis in New York and then the other thing that's very concerning is the clearance rates.
And you as a prosecutor know what the clearance rates are, how important that is.
Are we solving these crimes?
And right now, one in two homicides goes unclear in this country.
So that means that one out of every two people who commit a murder are still walking the
streets.
And these people aren't.
How do we go about getting those guns out of the hands of people who are going to use
them to hurt other people?
You know, to Tina Moore joining us, Police Bureau Chief at the New York Post. Knowing what you know, knowing what I know, those of us that
are in the business of crime, it haunts me. For instance, if I turn up, pull up at a red light,
especially if I have my twins in the car, I look over with what Matthew Mangino's just said
ringing in my ears, one out of two homicides not solved. I look around the red line and think,
hey, who's that? Are they out on parole? It's very disconcerting knowing what we know, Tina Moore.
It is. It's a bit scary right now in the city. But I just want to, I'm probably going to get
myself in trouble for saying this because I have an office at police headquarters where I work every day.
But where are the police?
I mean, they're supposed to be a deterrent.
They're supposed to be in the area.
They're supposed to be around.
They're supposed to be in their cars driving around the neighborhood and on foot patrol.
I'm not so sure they're around enough.
Well, isn't it true the police force has been cut back?
Right, and then you have COVID, too, which there are people out.
I mean, hasn't the police force been cut back to defund the police movement?
Yes, yes.
Well, I guess that's where they are.
They got defunded.
That was a heck of an idea that has certainly backfired.
When Tina Moore was talking, Matthew Mangino, Justin, talking about all across the country,
they're right.
Take a listen.
We're headed now to Orlando, hour cut 12 from ABC 11.
Family friend Tammy Tillman Edwards was overcome with emotion speaking about 22-year-old Desmond
Joshua Jr., who was shot and killed Saturday while working at the Burger King drive-thru.
Orange County Sheriff's deputies say it started Saturday night at this Burger King on East
Colonial after a woman was upset about the drive-thru line taking too long. The arrest
affidavit says the woman got a refund and left,
but came back a few minutes later with a man driving a work truck with an SGL logo on it.
They go on to say the driver, identified as Kelvis Rodriguez-Tormes, demanded to fight
Joshua Jr. A fight between the two broke out. The report states the suspect was heard saying,
you got two seconds before I shoot you.
Joshua Jr. was shot and killed.
Deputy Say Rodriguez-Tormes and the woman drove off to a house about two miles away on Ventana Lane.
They were found and detained.
Did I understand that correctly?
Jackie, did they actually murder someone because it took too long with their fast food?
Yes, they got angry
senseless murders now this is a recent one that has really broken my heart
take a listen to our cut six our friends at ktrk abc humble police say surveillance video shows
caladro duenas walking towards chucky Cheese with his daughter's birthday cake when the suspect drove the wrong way down a row of parking spots and almost hit the father of two.
The two exchanged words and then a witness told police they heard three gunshots.
My six-year-old saw him lying on the ground.
24-year-old Duenas died at the hospital a short time later.
My daughter didn't
get to have her birthday. Now my kids don't have their dad. It's really, really, really been really
rough these last few days. Humble police are still investigating. The suspect has not been caught. He
was said to be driving a black Ford car. As of right now, this young dad carrying the birthday cake in for his six-year-old little girl, no arrest.
This is what we know. Take a listen to our cut 8, KHOU 11.
The Humboldt Police Department says Duenas was in the parking lot carrying a birthday cake
when a young man driving the wrong way down the parking lot lane had words with Duenas in the parking lot.
They say the suspect pulled out a gun and shot Duenas.
They tell us the suspect fled in a Ford vehicle.
I don't understand how someone can do something to somebody like that
when he was walking with a cake.
Uresi says she hopes police can soon find the person responsible.
I just hope that, you know, he's found quickly
and for the safety of the community as well.
Because if he did this to my husband, I mean, imagine he can do this to anybody else.
She's right. He could. I don't get it.
I think I need to shrink on this.
Straight out to Dr. Sherry Schwartz, forensic psychologist, joining us at PantherMitigation.com.
Dr. Sherry, senseless killings.
Over what? This dad's carrying a birthday
cake, a counterfeit 20, a late bag of tacos. I mean, murder over a taco? What's happening?
Well, so for an example, the case of the dad carrying the birthday cake and almost seemingly
like road rage, right? Because he almost hits the dad and the dad carrying the birthday cake and almost seemingly like road rage,
right? Because he almost hits the dad and the dad gets mad and they have words. And then he inflicts
this violence. These are characteristics of sadistic personality, where you intend to harm
somebody, right? This is not a question mark. You intended to harm and so you did harm. And this is
somebody who lacks regret. They fail to take responsibility. They derive pleasure.
They enjoy seeing other people hurt.
They're going to have the last word, so to speak.
To Nathalie Pagan, the family friend of Crystal Nieves, how is Crystal's family?
Right now, it's very painful what they're going through
because she moved from Puerto Rico to take her kids out of the violence
in Puerto Rico for this to happen here.
They came like seven years ago, like looking for a better life,
and I just came to pick her mother up.
We're going to go buy her the dress for the
viewing and it's hard. It's really hard. Tip line 1-800-577-TIPS 1-800-577-8477.
Nancy Grace, Calm Storiesory signing off Goodbye friend