Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Texas police chief BUSTED for fake 'annulment,' juggling 7 women 'in the 'line of duty'

Episode Date: February 2, 2021

A Texas police chief is on the wrong side of the law after he allegedly faked annulment papers to keep his "girlfriend" from finding out he was still married. Texas Rangers arrested Jason Collier, who is of tampering with a government document. Cecily Steinmetz, of El Paso, took to Facebook to air out Collier’s alleged dirty laundry after finding out he was indeed still married to his second wife. When she hit social media with her claims, at least six other women came forward with relationship tales with the now-ousted police chief.Joining Nancy Grace Today: Darryl Cohen - Former Assistant District Attorney, Fulton County, Georgia, Defense Attorney Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Marriage and Family Therapist www.drbethanymarshall.com, New Netflix show: 'Bling Empire' Chris Byers - former Police Chief Johns Creek Georgia, 25 years as Police Officer, now Private Investigator and Polygraph Examiner, www.chrisbyersinvestigationsandpolygraph.com  Debby Montgomery Johnson, U.S. Air Force Veteran, Former Intelligence Officer at the Pentagon, Author, "The Woman Behind the Smile", Levi Page - Crime Online Investigative Reporter, Host, "Crime and Scandal" True Crime Podcast, YouTube.com/LeviPageTV  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Over 20 years as a lawman, medal of valor, four children, and now this married lawman is busted for not a double life, but a triple life, maybe even a quadruple life. Oh, somebody is going to jail. Before becoming police chief, Jason Collier was awarded the Medal of Valor by the state of Texas in 2016. This was for helping save the life of a fellow officer. Tonight, he's at the center of a criminal investigation. A woman who says she was Collier's fiancee is now warning a small Texas town their now former chief is living a double life. Is it a crime to cheat?

Is it a crime to have one wife, then divorce, marry another wife, then get engaged, then have a girlfriend? What? And that's just the tip of the iceberg that we know about right now. With me, an all-star panel to break it down and put it back together again. And yes, there are criminal charges brewing. Something about forged documents, allegedly. With me, former prosecutor turned defense attorney, Daryl Cohen, with Cohen Cooper, Eastep and Allen at cceallaw.com. We're now psychoanalysts.

Joining me out of Beverly Hills is Dr. Bethany Marshall. You can find her at drbethanymarshall.com. She's a star of a new Netflix show, Bling Empire. Former police chief, Johns Creek. 25 years on the force, now PI, at Chris Byers Investigations and Polygraph.com. CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter, Levi Page. Host of Crime and Scandal True Crime Podcast.

And special guest joining us today, Debbie Montgomery Johnson. Now listen to this about Debbie Montgomery Johnson, U.S. Air Force veteran, former intelligence officer at the Pentagon, author of The Woman Behind the Smile. You can find that on Amazon and also was defrauded out of about a million dollars by a POS. That's a technical legal term. Man that wooed her and convinced her of all sorts of lies. This woman, an intelligence officer with the Pentagon. So if it can happen to her,

what does that say for the rest of us, Jackie? I'm married and off the market, but you have trouble. I mean, what if you run into this sheriff? The police chief. Okay, take a listen to our friends at CrimeOnline.com. Jason Collier has been married twice and has four children, two with his ex-wife and two with his current wife, Opal. The 39-year-old has worked in several Texas police departments in a variety of positions. He's been an officer, a detective, and twice named a chief of police, once in the Sunray Police Department for a very short period of time and then the Stennett Police Department.

He has more than 21 years of law enforcement experience. in the Sunray Police Department for a very short period of time and then the Stennett Police Department. He has more than 21 years of law enforcement experience. He's also a State of Texas Medal of Valor recipient. He was awarded the honor during his time in the city of Pampa. During a standoff, Collier and two other officers helped drag a wounded officer to safety. Collier rounds out his resume with this. He is an ordained minister. Okay.

They just had to get that in at the end. He's also an ordained minister. Okay. You know, I don't really know where to stop, but let me start. Let me just start with Levi Page, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter. The former Senate Police Department chief, Jason Collier, age 39, he's just 39 and he's done all this already, taken into custody on Thursday after his alleged girlfriend accused him of cheating. You know what? It's not a pretty picture, but as far as I know, Levi Page,

cheating on your girlfriend is not a felony. What happened? Well, Nancy, that's not the issue. It's what he did to his girlfriend when he was cheating on her. So he sent her a text message. He's married. And it was a fraudulent government record, an annulment, and it was forged. It was faked.

And that is a crime in the state of Texas. Well, just so you know, that's a crime anywhere to forge a court document. Let me understand this. Levi Page, the allegation is, I'm sure he's denying it, that he showed via text the girlfriend or the fiance or one of the women he's got on the string an annulment from his second wife, and it's not real. It's fake. Correct.

And the charge that he's facing is tampering with a government record to defraud our arm. He's out on bond, but he was arrested. The bond was $10,000. And in Texas, a person that's convicted of that, Nancy, it's a felony. They face 180 days to two years behind bars. That'll be fun. Okay, now, the charge is faking a government document. Guys, take a listen to our cut one.

This is Cassie Stanford, KFDA-TV, Amarillo. The city of St. Ed says police chief Jason Collier has been placed on administrative leave. In a statement, the city says it's aware of the current situation surrounding Collier, and although they won't specifically comment on what he's being investigated for, they say they're taking the situation seriously and are looking into any violations of city policy. Collier became the police chief last February. He came to the department with 21 years of law enforcement experience. Chief Byers with me, former Chief Johns Creek, Chris Byers, 25 years as a police officer.

You know, Chief, I've dealt with a lot of cops. I mean, day in, day out. Atlanta PD, detectives, Fulton County sheriffs, cops from all over the world really flying in on some of our cases, experts. And you know what? I've seen a lot of cheating cops, but this really takes the cake. Chief, this guy is a police chief. How did he think he could hide all those women yeah it's um once you become that position of police chief uh it's everything that you do comes into light you have to really live above board as you should as a police officer all the time but especially when you step into that top cop role um you're a target for everybody and you need to be above board and all i can say is

you know this department from looking at their statistics, a very small department, which concerns me, too, of how much of a background investigation they do. You know, are they doing psychologicals? Are they doing polygraphs on their applicants? I mean, it should not be allowed. Wait, somehow, are you somehow trying to blame the government for letting him be police chief? What, they didn't vet him enough? I think the vetting didn't go below the belt, if you understand what I'm meaning. I don't think they checked that part of his anatomy out.

Debbie Montgomery Johnson with me. I want to hear what you and Dr. Bethany have to say about this? I mean, Debbie, you are former intelligence with the Pentagon and got defrauded of about a million dollars from a guy, a lying guy. What do you have to say about this? It happens. And it's really unfortunate. And I'm looking at this from the law enforcement man in uniform position of trust, position of power and the deceit. It can happen to the best of us. And I just I feel terrible for her. But from a victim as a victim's advocate, I don't want her to apologize for speaking

up. And I think that's where I was a little bit griped is that when I saw her apologizing, I'm like, no, I didn't hear anybody who apologized. I read that. I think it's Sicily was apologizing for for like no wait who apologized i didn't hear anybody who apologized i read that i think it's cicely it was apologizing for for outing this and i'm like don't apologize this has to it has to happen and uh okay wait wait i i totally respect you debbie but i need a shrink right now explain she's right she's right dr. Bethany Marshall. One of these women apologized for outing this low down sheet POS. OK, they apologized for outing him. How did it get so bass backwards?

Crime stories with nancy grace guys we are talking about not just a cop but the chief of police stint the stint police department chief 39 year old jason collier correct me if i'm wrong levi but he had the one wife, then the second wife, that's legal, then a girlfriend, that's legal, then a fiance, that's legal. Still, nobody's committed a crime until the allegation that he frauded, faked an annulment from the second wife, I guess to show to his girlfriend that he was free? Is that what he's charged with? You're correct, Nancy. And just to catch our listeners up, Cicely Stimmet is the woman that went to Facebook

and she posted, I'm engaged to Jason Collier. She was very happy. She went to bed at night, woke up the next morning, got a message from one of her friends and said, he is married. I'm friends with his wife on Facebook. She confronted him. She said, you're married. How could you do this to me? And that's when he sent her this fake annulment document.

Okay, wait. Levi, Levi, you got me drinking from the fire hydrant here. It's just too much at once. Tell me that again. This is like the best details so far. Let me understand this. The fiance, Cicely Steinmetz, 39-year-old Amarillo woman, on January 26th, posts on Facebook, we're engaged.

Right? Is that how it happened? Yes. And a friend of hers said, I'm friends with his wife on Facebook. He is married and she, she confronted him. He said, the marriage is annulled. He sent her this fake document. I know. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I know. I wonder what the two children have to say about that. Hold on. Daryl Cohen, former prosecutor, now defense attorney, renowned practices all over the country. Daryl Cohen, how can you get married?

And this guy, as Crime Online pointed out, is an ordained minister. How can you get married, have two children with your wife, and then get an annulment? Can somebody tell me about that? Because I'm totally threatening my husband with an annulment now. How do you do that? Well, absolutely.

You live in an alternative universe, and you and your own mind go one place, and you and your body and everyone else goes in another. Oh, Nancy, he is so embroiled in his lies that he has to make up a story to cover all of his lies. So what I tell all of my clients, all of them, if you tell the truth, you don't have to remember what you said, and you clearly don't have to worry about Facebook or Twitter or any other social media, whereby when you tell a lie, it gets there, folks. And this guy is just plain stupid.

He probably needs to be psychoanalyzed. Well, that's true. But objection, Your Honor. My question to you, Daryl, that's not responsive to the question. The question was, how can you get married, have two children with your wife, and then get an annulment? I mean, I'm a Methodist. We don't really do annulments that much. Don't you do that in the Catholic church?

Okay. How do you get an annulment with two children looking at you? Every law. What? Every law I know of says once you've consummated the marriage, and I believe two children. You may have sex. I do. Once you've had sex, and of course, if there's one child, and then you double that, and you

have two children, annulments may happen in the future for a different spouse, but not for this one. Dr. Bethany Marshall, so when he's called on it, have you ever seen Dr. Bethany people get caught in a lie and then they come up with another lie and another? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was married to her, but now we're annulled. Here's my here's my annulment. See, I'm going to text it to you. He just comes up with another fabrication.

Nancy, OK, we know Daryl Cohen is a man, and he just used a couple phrases. I'm pretty sure Chief Byers and Levi Page are too. So just keep that in mind. That he shouldn't lie, and he lives in an alternative universe, and he needs to be psychoanalyzed. That's like the man who cheats and says, it didn't mean anything to me. Those words are so trite. Let's get to the heart of it. I would imagine if you look into the psyche of this man, he is the type of guy who had firm control over each of these three women. Otherwise, how could he get away with three separate lives? So I'm very interested in double lives. I see men in my practice and women who do have double lives. Usually it's men. I hate to say it.

Women have double lives. Usually it's they're running up the credit card with their husbands at work. So it's not a sexual double life or it's in a romantic double life, but it's never a complete life with another man, which is what Collier is doing. I think he's the kind of guy who had each woman under his firm control. They couldn't have friends. They couldn't go out. Remember, one of the women visited him at work. She asked to meet his coworkers, and he said, I don't like those bitches something like that so he discouraged her

from meeting other people in his life kept each life circumscribed i bet those women didn't even have friends and yet he's going out and doing whatever he wants to do that's sociopathy this is not well he probably did that uh let me throw this to you, Debbie Montgomery Johnson, the author of The Woman Behind the Smile dot com. That's available on Amazon. Debbie, I want to follow up on what Dr. Bethany is saying that he had tight control over these women. I think, realistically speaking, practically speaking, he did not want their worlds to collide or even intersect. And they only intersected when the new fiance posted on Facebook. His wife may have never met the fiance.

Neither of them may have ever met the girl. I guess what the girl he had a lover on the side. OK, I don't know where he got the energy, but that's not the question. I don't think he thought those lives would intersect. I'm sure he didn't because they're in different places. You know, the women were not in the same town for the most part. And online, you presume that no one's going to know who you are. But, again, online, everybody in the world can know who you are.

And that's, you know, that's his biggest mistake is that he had pictures taken with these women. And it was silly for him not to have thought. You know who else got in trouble over a picture? Scott Peterson. Remember, Lacey Peterson, nine months pregnant, had her feet up at a Christmas party she had to go to alone. And then a photo emerges of Scott Peterson with a Santa hat on with his hand on Amber Frye's rear end in a red satin gorgeous dress. That came back to haunt him. Why do people take pictures of their wrongdoings? That's a whole nother

psychopathy. I want to make a note on that for you, Dr. Bethany. But I want you to take a listen to Vania Patino, WBRC Fox 6, Hour Cut 17. Listen. It all started with this picture. Cecilia was ready and happy to make her relationship official by sharing it to her family and friends on Facebook. She went to sleep that night not thinking that post would turn everything into a nightmare. And then I woke up the next morning to a text from a very good friend. She said okay I know where I know I'm from. She goes I'm friends with completely shocked. She could not believe it as they had spent so much time together. This is a ring video of one of the many times she says he would visit her while still on the clock.

Not only that, but she says he had met her family, had their picture up in his office, and even went as far as asking her to pick out an engagement ring. Wow. You were just hearing from our friends at WBRC Fox 6. I'm just thinking, how did he pull that off? To you, Chief Byers, so he's got her picture up at the office, but yet he doesn't really allow all the women to come to his office that much. He met her family. I bet she didn't meet his. And had even asked her to pick out an engagement ring. Isn't that something you do together or no? No. Doesn't the guy pick out the engagement ring and present it or you pick it out together? It's not, hey, hey babe, go swing by Walmart and pick up an engagement ring, OK?

And I'll pay for it. I didn't think that's how it was supposed to work, Chief Byers. Yeah, that's how it worked for me. I went and picked it out and gave it to my wife. Yeah, I mean, just thinking about pictures in his office. I mean, all I can think is he had different pictures of each of the women in his life and had to you know put them on his desk depending on what was going on that day but man just just absolutely ridiculous

you know this is totally going to be a lifetime movie i can just see it coming because of what you just said i can just see him arranging his office as soon as one leaves and the other one is coming in you know know, Debbie Montgomery Johnson, U.S. Air Force vet, former intelligence officer at the Pentagon. You can find her at thewomanbehindthesmile.com. It's also on Amazon. Debbie, how did the guy that defrauded you out of a million dollars do it? What about him made you believe him? Oh, everything about him. I lost my husband and I was home alone and he became my lifeline. I was very isolated. I ran on my own company from the house and he became, like I said, he became my life. He was the guy that I was online with for

hours every day. When I would question something, he would always have a plausible answer. When I asked my girlfriends and they're like, oh, don't, don't, don't, or my kids don't, don't, don't. I went to him and he said, Deb, this is A, B, C, and D. And he always had a really good answer. And like I said, he became my life, became part of my family. And with becoming part of my family, I trusted him. I had no reason not to trust. I didn't know that there were online scammers back then. And that certainly changed over the years. But they isolate you from your friends and family and don't let the naysayers take over your life because he's very positive. He was giving me everything I wanted to hear, everything that I wanted to see and the hope that I would have a future again with another man.

And so that's how they do it. They just really in and it's the grooming period. And you want to feel loved by someone like that. And today, especially, we're looking for companionship. And it's only online in a lot of places. And it's very dangerous right now. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about the chief of police there in Stinnett, Jason Collier. He is in a whole heap of trouble, women trouble. You know, that is really negating the intent behind this because now he's looking at a felony of defrauding a woman

in the sense that he allegedly faked an annulment to keep up his double and triple life. Jackie is waving a sign at me that she thinks there are at least seven women involved. You mean all at the same time? Yes. That's juggling seven at the same time. You know, no offense, Levi Page, but I think you left out a few because you've only told me about three. But hold on. Take a listen to our cut 18. This is Vania Patino, WBRC Fox. Listen. I asked him, you know, how could you do this? And he's like, I said, you just met my family and everything.

I said, so why are you doing this? He's like, no, babe, no. He's like, do you think I would actually meet your family and your kids, you know, if I weren't serious, you know, and if I were married? And again, made me feel bad for questioning him. She confronted him about the marriage and he claimed he was divorced. He even showed her this document saying it was the annulment. After she made a public records request, she found out it was a fake document.

And that is what began an investigation and ultimately led to his arrest. Just like Debbie Montgomery Johnson was saying, the woman behind the smile.com defrauded of a million dollars, there would always be an answer. Dr. Bethany Marshall, A, why do people take incriminating photos of themselves like Scott Peterson? Like this guy, you know, there's the photo, they're getting engaged, bam, it's out there at number one. And how do they always have an answer? Like when the fiancé, I guess you could call her fiancé, although legally she's not, questioned him, he came up with a fake annulment document, according to police. Nancy, because they're manipulative, you know, think about it like a four or five year old child who wants a lollipop or something like that. They're going to come up with every answer in the book for mommy to get that lollipop because

they only have one goal in mind. And for any of your listeners out there who are dating somebody who either begins by idealization, putting them on a pedestal, telling them that they're better than any other person that they have ever met, the most beautiful, the most incredible. Then they start to isolate them from family and friends. And then when the woman starts to question, you know, little discrepancies or things that don't add up, they have immediate answers. When there's a quality of always being maneuvered by the other person, those are a sign that you might be falling victim to a scam. And, of course, the fourth trait is, you know, they once had a fortune, but now they've lost it. They have a huge inheritance in England, but all these horrible family members are keeping them from getting the inheritance. So they just need a little loan to tide them over. You know, these kinds of things. Also,

the fact that the world doesn't understand them. They can't introduce you to other people in their life because they have horrible people surrounding them who don't understand them. So they're going to segregate themselves and you from everybody else. So you're on your own little island. Guys, take a listen again to our friends at WBRC Fox 6. I felt a large amount of trust due to his position. She decided to end the relationship and move on but says she later found out he had also been dating another woman while he was with her. I couldn't believe it. I would never dream you know that there was a whole another person. I mean a whole another person that he was engaged to. She says she did not think it was right for

the chief of police to feel so comfortable lying and decided to post her story on Facebook. Little did she know at least seven other women would also claim they were in a relationship with him. Okay, Levi Page, you've totally been holding out on me. Seven women? How many engagements does he have? And I thought this was a real, I would have to go back to shrink on this one in a moment. The woman says, okay, the wife is one thing,

but he couldn't believe he had another girlfriend. Well, how could, how can you accept that there's a wife? Or maybe she didn't know at all. Who knew about what and where does the number seven come in? After, uh, Or maybe she didn't know at all. Who knew about what and where does the number seven come in? After Cicely Steinmetz put her post on Facebook, she was contacted by another woman named Christy Schaefer. Hold on.

Wait. The post says she was engaged or the post telling the story? Telling the story. No, that she was engaged. When she posted her story, she talked about Christy Schaefer, who also said she was engaged as well. So there were two engagements? Mm-hmm. And then there was another woman that came forward.

Her name is Angie Cogdell Bauman, and she said that his behavior dates back to 2007 because she was with him when he was married as well. And she found out that he was married and left him. That still doesn't equal seven. Where is the number seven coming from? Other women that commented and have come forward on social media. Dear Lord in heaven. Well, I want the fiancés and the wife to take heart. It's not them. If an intelligence officer at the Pentagon can get duped by a guy to the tune of a million dollars, I mean, it can happen to her.

It can happen to her. It can happen to anybody. Now, proving that, I want you to hear Mike Holfield at News 6 Orlando. Think you'll ever find him? No. I wish to God I could. Post script from a once wealthy widow. I went through my bank statements and it was $270,000. You love this guy?

Yeah. And he told me he was in love with me. Looking for a real relationship? They met on Match.com. Check out Match right now for free. I've talked to a million people that said they've met people on eHarmony, on Match, and they're happily married. And so I didn't have any reason to question it. You thought this was it?

Yeah. She knew him as Jerry Michael, a.k.a. Darnell Michael. Diane says he told her he was a divorced German CEO with a California construction project. This is the only voice message she saved. Hi, Diane. How are you doing? This is Jerry. Could you please call me right back so we can talk, please? Thank you. Bye. He would call from four different numbers, always in need of money.

It was mostly lawyer fees, bail money. Newsix tracked those numbers to Bakersfield, California. One had a familiar voice on the recording. Hi, this is Darren Marches. Please leave a message and I'll get back to you. Thank you. It turns out Diane Standish had been catfished. That is a fancy phrase for getting ripped off by somebody meet online. But what about others? Take a listen to our friend, Dr. Phil and our cut 13 speaking to Roxanne Lewis Randall. Describe his personality when you met him. He was very charming and kind and just really

nice. Was there a point that you said he's flirting with me? Just engaging in a lot of conversation. He was just funny. He was witty. We just kind of clicked. Did you know what his What his marital status was? I did, partially. What did you understand? That they were still married. They had been living separate lives. What he said. Were you a secret? I don't think I was fully.

I don't know. Did his wife know about you? Yes. Did she object? I don't know. After all of this, she said that they've never even talked about a divorce, that that's not ever even been mentioned. So she now tells a different story.

Yeah. So he said they were living separate lives. They had just not finished the divorce process. So you didn't see yourself as the other woman here? No. Well, if you're not finished with the divorce process, that means you're still married. Bam. There's really no other way to put it. crime stories with nancy grace how does the senate police department chief end up in hot water well it's got something to do with seven women one, an ex-wife, multiple fiancés, and we don't know how many girlfriends. But what's landed him looking at criminal charges is faking a court document.

A judge has come out and said this document is not real. Now, this is what former Chief Collier has to say. Take a listen to our cut six. I feel like the biggest piece of s**t. So, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to hide anything or lie to you. Sorry. So sorry. Please support 21. Any what you're doing. Just want you to forgive me. I'm sorry.

It will be in the alley between the other place and that's the answer. I'm sorry. How can that be true, Dr. Bethany Marshall? He didn't mean to lie. Don't you have to open your mouth and say words intentionally? That's not an involuntary reaction like digesting your food or breathing or your heart beating. You can't stop that. But speaking words, particularly lies, which require thought, cunning, and deceit, that's a voluntary action.

How can he say, I didn't mean to hide anything? That's all he does is hide things. See, he's manipulating again. You know, when somebody is really sorry, instead of just saying the words, I'm sorry, they change their behavior. They step up. They are present. They communicate. They maybe go wash the woman's car, take her to dinner, do something to show some intent. I can get my car washed for $3, Jay. I'm telling you, I don't need anybody to wash my car. I would love to know what this guy Collier's motivation was

to have seven probably plus girlfriends. Was it sexual motivation? Was he getting money from each woman? Was he getting gratified in some other way? I haven't heard anything about money. I haven't heard anything. You know, when you look at the literature on sociopathy, it's well known in my field that one of the indicators of a sociopath is they have inner deadness.

They're very empty. They're prone to boredom. And because of that, they're excitement junkies. They love to have very life on the edge, you know, barely escaping danger, barely getting caught. But this somehow makes them feel alive. So it could be that juggling from one woman to the other kind of served a purpose of making him feel more alive and more human. It'd be hard for your listeners to relate to this, the people who are normal and have pleasure just at watching their child's baseball game or cooking a nice meal. But for somebody who's this disturbed, they need a lot of activity. They always need to be on the move and they always need to be sort of barely getting caught

in order to feel that they're even human. I've got another fact for you, Debbie Montgomery Johnson. I can't wait for you to respond to this. Stimus and Schaefer, those are two of the girlfriends. Well, they may be the two fiancés. Also discovered Collier bought each of them the same gift, a coffee maker. He, quote, wanted to buy me a coffee maker as a wedding gift. At Target with my children, Schaefer wrote, he just brought up getting a coffee maker for my

house on Sunday since I don't drink coffee and he does. He gives all the women the same gift. Debbie, you were ripped off to the tune of a million dollars. Did you ever suspect in the middle of all that, that it was all a big lie? No. Well, maybe towards the end, but no, I never did. I wondered there were pink flags, as I call them, you know, not red flags, not yellow flags, where my gut was saying, Deb, this isn't right. But at some point, you're so far in, for me, financially in, that to walk away, I knew I would lose the money. The hope of this is the last time, you know, maybe this will get him home. That hope of him getting out of there, that kept me going. But as far as the coffee maker, what happens with the scammers is they don't call you by your name. They'll call you honey, my love, my wife,

something that doesn't, you know, they can be talking to a hundred women at the same time and I'll call them my honey, my love, my wife, and they don't need to remember your name. So by him giving them a coffee maker, they each get the same gift and they're going to be grateful for that. And it's not for them. I mean, I wouldn't get a coffee maker. They each get the same gift, and they're going to be grateful for that. And it's not for them. I mean, I wouldn't get a coffee maker. I don't drink coffee. But if he were coming to my house and he wanted coffee, it makes sense. But, yeah, he's just covering his bases.

You know, my poor husband, he loves coffee. I drink tea. So not only do we only have instant coffee, but I actually cheat and put in the Dollar Tree coffee in that, and he thinks he's getting some expensive instant coffee. I mean, you know, speaking of coffee makers. But guys, this is what it all boils down to. Take a listen to our cut. This is Kelly Green, K-A-M-R.

Listen. Thursday afternoon, the Texas Rangers arrested Collier and booked him into the Hutchinson County Jail. He's charged with tampering with a government record with the intent to defraud or harm, which is a state jail felony. His bond was set at $10,000. Tuesday, Amarillo woman Cecily Steinmetz posted this to Facebook, saying she was engaged to Collier before she learned he was married. Steinmetz's original post has gone viral, shared tens of thousands of times even internationally. I spoke with Steinmetz who alleges Collier sent her a fake annulment document. Steinmetz says this photo of an annulment document is from Collier. And then he was like well you know I'll get you the annulment

he's like just hold on and I was, you know, let me see it then. And he sent that to me. And I told him, I said, well, I'm not going to take this at its face value. I'm going to check it out with Potter County. I did not think it was right in his position to be presenting people with a false document like that. That's why it's a crime, because all sorts of business, personal transactions can take place based on court-certified documents. I mean, Daryl, in court, if the defense attorney would present me with a document, I would do this. Feel it.

You know why? Because it has to be certified. I have to feel the imprint. You know, like when a notary squeezes the document with that seal, you can feel it. And oh yes, it may be a technicality, but I would object to that document if I didn't feel, if I couldn't feel that seal on it. And the defense attorney would have to go back and get the real deal. Our whole system is based on authentication of documents that we can rely on.

And he faked it, according to this woman. Nancy, it's hard to explain any of this, to be very honest with you. It's something that's beyond believable. And I don't know how to explain it other than it just is. And sometimes people just do what they shouldn't do. And I don't know how to explain it other than it just is. And sometimes people just do what they shouldn't do. And this is what happens.

Guys, take a listen. Although that was totally unresponsive to the question, I will forge forward. Take a listen to our cut nine about the fake annulment document. You can see on this document it claims it was filed in the 108th District Court in Potter County. Judge Doug Woodburn presides over that court. We reached out and shared with him the photo of the annulment document Steinmetz claimed Collier sent her. Judge Woodburn replied saying, quote, no match exists either under that name or cause number. Our cause numbers are completely different consisting of a zero, followed by six

numbers starting in seven or eight. My court is followed by the letter E. It's a fake, end quote. You were just hearing Kelly Green at KMR. The 108th District Court says that this document looks like it's a fake. That's what we're learning right now. That was Judge Doug Woodburn presiding. Not only is this police officer, this chief of police, potentially heading to jail. Just think of the broken hearts he's leaving behind. We've been talking about the women. But what about his children? We wait as justice unfolds.

Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off. Goodbye, friend. This is an iHeart Podcast.