Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Too Pretty for Jail?

Episode Date: November 9, 2022

Hend Bustami gains national attention after a dine-and-dash arrest at an airport restaurant. Bustami says the arresting officer are "perverts' who have "never seen anyone as pretty" as her. Days later... Bustami calls 911, telling the operator she has killed her mother. It's just another example of criminals who claim they are 'TOO PRETTY FOR JAIL."  Joining Nancy Grace Today: Kirk Nurmi - Legal Analyst and Former Lead Counsel to Jodi Arias (Phoenix, AZ), Author: "Trapped with Ms. Arias", Twitter/Instagram: @nurmiunchained  Caryn Stark - NYC Psychologist, CarynStark.com, Twitter: @carynpsych, Facebook: "Caryn Stark"  Lisa M. Dadio - Former Police Lieutenant, New Haven Police Department, Annie Le Lead Detective, Senior Lecturer, Director of the Center for Advanced Policing and Graduate Program Coordinator, Investigations program, University of New Haven (West Haven, CT) Katherine Maloney, M.D. - Deputy Chief Medical Examiner, Erie County Medical Examiner's Office, David Charns - Investigative Reporter, KLAS 8 News NOW. Facebook/Twitter: @davidcharns, Instagram: @davidcharnsnews  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Too pretty for jail. Yeah, that is the defense. Too pretty to go to jail and guess what it's not the first time that I'm too pretty to go to jail has actually been uttered in court now in this case it starts with skipping out on a Chili's bill you ever been to Chili's? They're awesome. Some people call it fast food. It's not. It's much more than that. But that Chili's bill, just the tip of the iceberg. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM 111.
Starting point is 00:01:02 How did the whole odyssey begin? Take a listen to our friends at KLAS. Boustami was arrested at Harry Reid Airport in August after skipping out on her restaurant check, threatening to spit on officers, and claiming she was being arrested for being too pretty. Unusual interactions neighbors say were all too common. She would come outside and literally spin in her driveway singing
Starting point is 00:01:25 songs. She was wanted for skipping out on a Chili's tab at Reed International Airport, but per the arrest report, she claims she was being harassed because cops had never seen anyone as pretty as her. This is Hen Bustami, who was arrested near baggage claim last week. Turns out she had an arrest warrant from Las Vegas Municipal Court. Bustami was uncooperative while being detained. She was later booked into Clark County Detention Center. Too pretty for jail. Well, of course, it's not the first time we've heard that before.
Starting point is 00:02:00 But just hold this thought just a moment. Too pretty for jail. Joining us, David Charns, investigative reporter, KLAS 8 News Now. That's not pretty. Threatening to spit on or spitting on a cop and crapping out on your Chili's bill. What's pretty about that? What we saw in that arrest report that we obtained, someone who was hanging out at the airport uh you know las vegas is a busy place people are coming in and out all the time we get reports all the time
Starting point is 00:02:32 of people doing things at the airport but this one sort of stood out a little because on page two uh it said uh she refused to be arrested or she was getting arrested because she was um too pretty and and the whole reason police started talking to her was because she reportedly skipped out on that bill. David Charns joining us, investigative reporter, KLAS8. You know, you think if you're going to commit a crime, you wouldn't do it at, for instance, a casino or at FBI headquarters in Quantico or at an airport where there are surveillance cameras everywhere you turn. But she did. She skipped out on a Chili's bill.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Now, let me understand something. Was the Chili's inside the airport? The Chili's was inside the airport. And there are a lot of police who walk through the airport. It's a busy place. Millions of millions of people a year. And this was just someone who was doing some strange behaviors and police went up and wanted to talk to her. Turns out she was the food thief. I wonder what she ordered. Guys, again, this is not the first time we've heard the I'm too pretty defense. Does the name Lauren K Cutshaw ring a bell?
Starting point is 00:03:46 Listen to our friends at Inside Edition. She said she was just too pretty to go to jail when she was arrested for DUI. I'm a pretty girl. Please don't leave me going there. And now it seems a judge agrees. 34-year-old Lauren Cutshaw is being given a sweet deal. No jail time. And she even gets to keep her driver's license.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Cutshaw, a real estate agent from South Carolina, was pulled over after cops say she blew through a stop sign going more than twice the speed limit. Put your hands behind your back. All right, you're under arrest for driving under the influence. Okay, she was DUI, blows through a stop sign, but the judge actually let her off. I guess he also thought she was too
Starting point is 00:04:27 pretty. Did you hear her whining? I guess in the seat of her car, I'm a pretty girl, please don't make me go in there. Boo-hoo, woman! Well, let's take a listen to more. Her bratty whining on the way to jail went viral last year. I graduated from a really good university. I was almost a valedictorian. Well, I graduated with 3.8. In my high school, I went, oh, I gotta get a scholarship to my college. I was the only regular cheerleader. I mean, I was a mess of beat my whole life.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I'm coming to jail. Pretty girl, please don't leave me going there. We're now learning she has pled guilty to misdemeanor DUI. She was fined $187 in order to perform 24 hours community service and take alcohol safety classes. Okay, let's make sure I understand this. Joining me, Kirk Nermy, legal analyst and former lead counsel to none other than Miss Jody Arias, who was called a bombshell, gorgeous, sexy, seductive, blah, blah, blah. He's author of Trapped with Miss Arias.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And you can find him on Twitter and Insta at Nermy Unchained. Kirk Nermy, your client is also guilty of thinking she was too pretty to be prosecuted. Did she just believe everybody was going to fall for her line about the murder of Travis Alexander, hook, line, and sinker
Starting point is 00:06:00 because she was attractive? Other people think she's attractive, not me, but apparently she did too what about it normie well let me tell you i think one thing i see with a lot of female criminals and we've heard it just here in the tape you just played is a level of narcissism that they believe that they should be able to get away with anything and their excuses will hold water and when they start to not hold water they become the victim of their own actions and don't realize or don't think that anyone's going to hold them to account i think we see that
Starting point is 00:06:30 over and over again with a lot of these people karen start joining me we're now a psychologist joining us out of manhattan at karenstart.com that's karen with a c karen uh have you seen those studies i have that show when a defendant or a person in general, not necessarily a criminal defendant, are attractive, they get better treatment. Just like that bratty woman, cut, shaw, you hear whining, I had a 3.8 average. I was a cheerleader. Don't send me to jail. I'm a pretty girl. They actually do get away with it.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Well, people who are good looking get away with a lot more than other people nancy but what you have here and remember it was the same covering jody is somebody who has a narcissist without a doubt and has such a strong sense of entitlement and that's not uncommon i mean she really fits the textbook where she's preoccupied with fantasies of beauty and believes that she's special and she needs admiration, envious of others and believes that they're envious of her. It all fits who this person is and she's dangerous because she feels that she's above the law. You know, just a quick question. You and Nermy are throwing around the term narcissistic, which of course is named after the mythological character of Narcissus,
Starting point is 00:07:53 who fell in love with his own reflection in a pool. But didn't Narcissus die in the end of the story? What happened to Narcissus at the end of that? Does anybody know? I mean, Karen Stark, you throw around the term narcissistic all the time, but Sidney has just refreshed my recollection. Narcissus died staring into his own reflection. And it reminds me of the mirror of Ir irised and harry potter where you see yourself
Starting point is 00:08:28 and your deepest desires you see yourself as you want to be and people look at it so long they just starve to death and die they can't leave it so my point is kurt normie let's talk about Jodi Arias, your client for much longer than you wanted, so attached to her looks. I remember she's charged with murder in the state seeking the death penalty. She gives an interview against your wishes and she's caught on camera putting on face powder and lipstick. She's worried about her face powder when she's looking at death by needle. She's staring into the mirror, literally, to her death.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I mean, did she ever try to use her charms, her beauty on you, and did it work? Let's be honest just a little bit well i don't know if she tried but i certainly know it didn't work nancy because when i didn't know somebody to kill her any charms or fallen by the wayside but you're right you know and we talked about narcissism image was always very important in this area she talked about the the clothing the interviews that actually predated my 10 years as a lawyer but, that was always a big deal to her. And I think that flows along with this idea,
Starting point is 00:09:50 this narcissistic female criminal that we've been talking about here today. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. crime stories with nancy grace lisa daddio joining us uh former police lieutenant new haven pd and now the director of the center for advanced policing and graduate program coordinator university new haven investigation University New Haven Investigation Program. Lisa, thank you for being with us. Lisa, talking about being beautiful and using that as a weapon, believing that you are somehow immune to prosecution, you don't have to go to jail because you're so pretty, it's not pretty to spit on police officers. Have you ever been spat on?
Starting point is 00:10:43 Thankfully, no. I've had a lot of cops practically every cop i know somebody has spit on them well what i was going to say is i haven't been but my partner who had responded with me had been and so you know nancy it's one of those things that is just so despicable so whether or not you think you're so pretty and so beautiful that you should not have to pay the consequences, spitting on somebody speaks volumes about the type of person you are on the inside. I was talking about Cut Shaw earlier, the one you hear whining about her, how beautiful she is and her 3.8 grade average as she was a cheerleader in college. Well, it worked on a judge, believe it or not. But I would have to say the all-time winner for I'm Too Pretty for Jail would have to be
Starting point is 00:11:32 Deborah LaFave, charged with child molestation. Take a listen to our friends at Crime Online. An argument made in a Florida courtroom by Deborah LaFave's attorney, John Fitzgibbons, led to most of the too-pretty-for-jail headlines that ran with most of the news coverage of her case. Fitzgibbons said in court, Okay, so she is supposed to be treated differently than everybody else. I can distinctly remember a photo in which Deb LaFave posed in a bikini. I think she's straddling a motorcycle, a hog possibly. Yeah, okay. That said, take a listen to more from our friends at daily mail deborah
Starting point is 00:12:26 lefebvre a florida high school english teacher who had sex with her 14 year old student one year later she pled guilty to two counts of lewd and lascivious behavior involving a minor the public outcry was tremendous 24 years old at the time lefebave blamed her actions on being bipolar and hypersexualized, claiming she had been raped when she was a teen. Her attorney famously told the judge she was too pretty for prison. In the end, LaFave pled guilty to lewd and lascivious behavior. She was sentenced to just three years house arrest, but branded a sex offender. You know, there was a teacher arrested two days after me, and I saw her on TV once. So why do you think you got all the attention?
Starting point is 00:13:13 I don't know. I'll say it, do you think it's because you're pretty? I think so. And sex sells. The other teacher probably didn't make headlines because she was repentant. She felt bad about what had happened. She was remorseful. And she also didn't say, I'm too pretty for jail. You were hearing not only our friends at Inside Edition, but also at today's show. Deb LaFave is a child predator and yet she is saying she's being punished because she is pretty much the same way as Hen Bistami is right now. And it's not just about a Chili's bill. What's that?
Starting point is 00:14:05 $30, $40? I want to take a listen to what this is all about. Why is this happening? And why is it working? Another thing, you heard our friend Jessie Palmer at Daily Mail state she had sex with a student. You can't have sex with a minor. That is statutory rape because a minor is not under the law able to give consent. And I want to go to you, Kirk Nermy. You're the high profile lawyer. Why is it that a minor, anyone under the age of consent, which in many states is 18,
Starting point is 00:14:50 why can't a minor have consensual sex with an adult? Same reason we don't issue them a driver's license or the right to smoke or the right to drink is because they're not developed enough to make their own solid choices. And so different states have different regulations regarding the age of consent. They vary per state, but each state makes that moral choice of when a person is able to make an informed decision in that regard. Yet the I'm too pretty for jail defense seemingly worked. And trust me, it's not just women that are making this claim. Take a listen to our friend Gloria Gomez, Fox 13. It inspired a movement.
Starting point is 00:15:24 You're too cute. I fell in love with a criminal on social media several outlets reporting that a number of people talk about his eye is calling him too cute the hashtag justice for cameron heron and free cameron would trend on twitter and tick tock heron's attorney denies he or his client's family had anything to do with it. Tech experts say some Twitter accounts are legit while others are actually internet bots. Heron is appealing the judge's sentence calling it excessive. Too cute for jail. I fell in love with a criminal. Too cute for jail. Hashtag justice for Cameron Heron and free Cameron because he's quote cute. You know what Cameron Heron and free Cameron because he's, quote, cute. You know what Cameron Heron did? Well, listen, our friends WTSP. Police say this Mustang was speeding northbound along Bayshore
Starting point is 00:16:12 in a race against another car when it hit 24-year-old Jessica Reisinger as she was pushing a stroller with her 21-month-old baby. Now, the driver of that car and the driver of the Nissan, it was racing. They did stay at the scene, but it was too late for that mom. She and her baby were taken to TGH, not far from the scene where the mom was pronounced dead. Now the baby is still alive, but she is really fighting to survive. Yet a movement ensued online. Now this is after the mom is mowed down dead and the baby's life hanging in the balance at intensive care. I still say he got a sweetheart deal. Take a listen to our cut 12. Cameron Herron would decide to do an open plea and let the judge decide his fate.
Starting point is 00:16:59 All rise. The judge had the final say. So on count one, vehicular homicide, the court's going to adjudicate the defendant guilty, sentence him to nine years in Florida State Prison. On count two, same charge, court will adjudicate the defendant guilty, sentence him to 15 years Florida State Prison. So on a 15-year sentence, he'll be out in about seven, eight years, yet his lawyer insists that that was much too harsh for a client as cute as Cameron Herron.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Okay, back to the current case. And as a backdrop, the movement of too cute for jail. You know, to you, Lisa Daddio, when you deal with cases like Heron's where you see a mom in a stroller mowed down on the side of the road and then you have a petition online claiming the defendant is too cute for jail and you've got the little baby in NICU gasping for life.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I mean, how does that make you feel as the arresting officer? It's infuriating. And it makes me pause and think what the heck is wrong with this country when you have that kind of mentality that it's an excuse why somebody shouldn't be held responsible for the horror that they've inflicted on the victims, the families, witnesses, everybody. So David Charns joining me, investigative reporter, KLAS 8 News Now. I'm looking at the current case, Han Bustami in her 20s. She is pretty. Even I, who never think any defendant is pretty or attractive,
Starting point is 00:18:47 I've got to say I think she is. I think she's attractive. She's got long, beautiful, dark hair, big brown eyes, perfect, perfect eyebrows and a perfect mouth. I mean, it looks like somebody drew it on and it's all natural. So where did this woman get the idea? Uh-oh, here she is in a swimsuit. Okay, yeah, somebody's been spending a lot of time at the gym. So David Charnes, where does this come from? I'm too pretty for jail.
Starting point is 00:19:19 So we know that Hen Bustami worked as a DJ in the Las Vegas area. I believe she's originally from california came to las vegas with her family uh definitely lives a lifestyle here where she knows a lot of people uh we heard from from past colleagues and friends who say you know sort of what you were alluding to she's a girl who likes to have fun uh we know that she had a battery charge several months ago at a at a nightclub so um i think someone who's young and free and and enjoys you know living her life here whoa whoa wait a minute wait a minute a battery charge at a bar what she has a battery charge that was that original warrant which is what police were talking to her about at the airport.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Tell me about the battery incident. So what we know about the battery right now and those court documents are hard to find and they're looking for them. She was actually charged with battery for getting into some sort of argument with security at an event space here in Las Vegas back in June. And I don't know the exact specifics other than she was charged with battery and then she went to court and then she missed court this summer. Can I just analyze what David Charns, joining us from KLAS 8. KLAS 8 said,
Starting point is 00:20:49 Catherine Maloney is joining me, Deputy Chief Medical Examiner out of Erie County. That's in Buffalo. She's at nickelcityforensics.com. Now think about this woman, Han Bustami, too pretty for jail. She's at an event where they have alcohol and she actually takes on the security guards. Hey, David, was that in California? That was in Las Vegas. Vegas. Okay. Catherine,
Starting point is 00:21:16 security guards in Vegas, they're as big as a fridge. They're huge. They look menacing. They're like beefy Doberman pinchers. This woman is so convinced of her beauty, she takes on security guards and has a battery claim, not against the security guards, against her. Typically, Catherine Maloney, it's just the opposite. It's the other way around. You got a big, beefy guy beating on a woman. You don't usually see this reversal, doctor. I mean, it's definitely not what you'd expect to see. I mean, especially if you think that she thought she was so beautiful, you'd think that she would try to win him over with honey as opposed to starting a fight.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Vinegar, yeah. Yeah, remember, honey, you tried more flies with honey than opposed to vinegar. Vinegar, yeah. Yeah, remember honey, you tried more flies with honey than vinegar. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, when you look at a woman's physique compared to a man, it's almost impossible for a woman using just her fists to win a fight against a man. Doctor? I mean, definitely the average woman is smaller than the average man. I mean, there are exceptions to that general rule, obviously, but looking at the pictures of her
Starting point is 00:22:33 that were posted, she definitely doesn't look like she's the type of person that could take on a Las Vegas security guard. Two of them. Kirk Nermy, after dealing with a murder defendant, Jody Arias, for months and months and months, I guarantee you this is what happened.
Starting point is 00:22:55 She went up to these security guards for what? To get in? For getting a drink without a license? I don't know. For something. Thinking she could win them over with her charm and it didn't work. I guarantee you she slapped one of them. What about it, Nermy? Yeah, I guarantee you that that's exactly what happened, Nancy. And I think what we really have here is we're painting a picture of a woman who can't take no for an answer, who will not accept no to what she wants, that kind of narcissistic urge. And once somebody says no, doesn't fall for her charms, then we have violence ensued. Have you guys seen her LinkedIn photo? I mean, this woman could be a model. Jackie, have you seen her LinkedIn? I did.
Starting point is 00:23:33 She's perfect. Her teeth are perfect. David Charns, K-L-A-S, is she living at home with her mom? She is. We know that she lived at home with her mother. I'm not 100% sure how long her mother lived here, but she had been here for several years, and they did live together in what we would call the suburbs here in Las Vegas, not on the strip, far away in a community.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Now, so you're basically telling me in a much nicer way that she's a gorgeous young party girl that is a dj sometimes and lives with her mother is that right david charnes that is what appears to be true yes so she's basically got the golden ticket mommy's letting her live at home she plays it being a dj and i guarantee you uses that position as a dj to get in all sorts of exclusive parties and gatherings like the one where she had the altercation with the security guards. And I want to point out and correct me if I'm wrong, David Charnes, when she was first taken into custody there at, I guess, the baggage claim at the airport. She claimed the cops were perverts and that they were trying to rape her because they had never seen anyone
Starting point is 00:24:50 as good looking. That is correct. I'm quoting the police report because I'm looking right at it right here. Okay, this is all over Bustami walking out on a tab at the Chili's restaurant inside the airport.
Starting point is 00:25:04 She became belligerent and accused them of wanting to rape her Stommie walking out on a tab at the Chili's restaurant inside the airport. She became belligerent and accused them of wanting to rape her because she was, quote, wait, because they had, quote, never seen anyone as good looking. Okay, what more do we know about this person? Take a listen to our friends KLAS. Neighbors waking up around 2.30 a.m. Police finding a deceased 68-year-old woman covered in lacerations and blood but they didn't find her daughter 28 year old Hend Bustami who they say first called in the death before abruptly hanging up. Usually 10 o'clock or later we would they would
Starting point is 00:25:38 just be screaming in the backyard or they'd be fighting and Andres Moreno who lives nearby says the house in question was the loudest on the block. I could always hear the screaming and yelling, so I just try to keep to myself. And of course, shortly after, you know, the screaming, the police presence would be involved and things would get settled down. And then a week later, it happened again. Police records showing officers were called there 12 times just this year, mostly for family disturbances. So apparently her mother did not think the I'm too pretty to behave excuse was working either. The neighbors could hear them arguing over and over and over. They were the loud ones in the neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Well, the mother was afraid and she had good reason to be. Take a listen to this 911 call. I'm her friend, but her work called for emergency contact, which is another friend, and we're all looking for her. She's not answering. She has not showed up to work. And when she called me last night going home, she was scared, and that was the last time I spoke to her. She's the one who actually was arrested at the airport
Starting point is 00:26:45 and said, you're arrested for good looks. It's all over the news. Karen Stark, I don't know if you remember the case of Heather Mack. This is reminding me of that so much. Heather Mack's mother was married to a, I believe she was a college professor. She was married to a famous jazz musician, and they had Heather, their only child.
Starting point is 00:27:06 And they treated her like a princess. But police often came to the home because Heather Mack had her own mother living in fear. She would slap her, would yell at her, would berate her. Finally, in a last-ditch effort to make amends and put their relationship back together, the mom takes Heather Mack on an all-expense-paid luxury vacation to Bali. And then after they've been there a few days, the bellhop notices a bag out front, a huge piece of luggage, and blood is seeping from it. Heather Mack and her boyfriend had actually killed the mother. Like we're hearing in this case with Bustami, in the Heather Mack case, there were 86 911 calls made.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And the mom ends up dead. This is quite a phenomenon of the daughter berating and attacking the mother. That's something that anyone would expect, right, Nancy? Usually you feel like there's this unbelievable bond between a mother and a child, but we're talking about a person who has no empathy, feelings, doesn't really understand that kind of connection, or has the ability to even feel for her mother or love her mother. And so this callous act, which none of us can really empathize with or share, this is nothing to that daughter.
Starting point is 00:28:43 There's no feeling about killing a mother, stuffing her in a suitcase. It's absolutely like she took a doll, ripped it apart, and put it in a suitcase. No different. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Talisa Daddio, former police lieutenant, New Haven PD. Matricide is very, very rare.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And when matricide, the murder of your mother, occurs, it's usually a son that commits the murder. A daughter murdering her mother is almost unheard of, Lisa. Nancy, you hit the nail on the head. We, I mean, it's so rare to see that. And, you know, if it does happen, you try to look for those triggers and the signs and, you know, what was there along the way for a daughter to have that much hatred to kill her mother. It's honestly just astonishing. Guys, I want you to take a listen to Han Bastami and her 911 call. And this has nothing to do with the battery on a security guard at an elite, a sophisticated party or walking out on a Chili's tab.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Listen. Do you need police, fire or medical? Medical. I think I killed my mommy. What's your address? Oh, ****. South June 4, I was there. ****. South what?
Starting point is 00:30:25 June 4, I was there. Why do you think you killed your mom? South what? Greenflower Drive. Why do you think you killed your mom? Because I did. I murdered her. How did you do that? I broke the table on my head and I broke it. You did what with the table? Can I get medical 8759? I don't get a table. I let my mom die.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I gave her the address. Yeah. I gave you the address. You said ****** with Juneflower. Yeah. Okay, what did you do to her? I killed her. How did you kill her? You said something about a table? I broke the table on her head. You dropped the table on her head? I broke the table on her head and I cut her neck off.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And you cut what? Her neck off. Where are you at now? I'm in the hospital. I didn't see a wire. I can hear her saying something about the water. Take a listen to our friend's KLAS. The 911 call a 28-year-old woman made after she reportedly killed her mother inside their South Valley home. Now, in that call, police say 28-year-old Han Bustami calmly described how she killed her mother before hanging up.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Now, we do want to warn you, the details might be disturbing. Why do you think you killed your mom? Because I did. I murdered her. How did you do that? I broke the table on my head. Boustami told police she used shards of glass from a broken table to allegedly stab her mother. After describing what happened, Boustami hung up.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Now remember, regardless of how you may think she sounds on the 911 call, Bustami is a graduate of the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, with a full degree in hospitality administration and management. And she is also a DJ, appropriately, who goes under the name Aphrodite or Aphrodite who is of course the goddess of beauty she named herself that David Charnes a investigative reporter KLAS exactly how did she allegedly murder her mother so what we can tell from the police report and obviously the very disturbing 911 call there is police believe that henboostami took a like a glass table that was in a living room and broke it over her mother's head and that as you heard her described there take shards of the table and then stab her mother
Starting point is 00:33:22 with that we understand her mom was found with several stab wounds and cuts. And as Hen Bustami described in the call herself, she said she cut her neck off. So definitely a gruesome, very violent act that allegedly happened in there. And then as you heard her describe, and you heard the beeping of the car and the 911 call, she then got in the car and drove to California. Much like your client, Kurt Nurmi, counseled to Jody Arias after murdering Travis Alexander, hops in the car, drives across the desert and literally hops on and straddles her next boyfriend. Yeah, you know, we can see that, you know, even though she is confessing to this, describing it, you can't see
Starting point is 00:34:12 that she really is that disturbed by what she's doing. She's heading off. She's done with it. And she's moved on. And I think that just goes to this whole narcissistic idea that, you know, she was justified in what she did. And it was time for her to move on and get on with her life. And get away from the murder scene. Dr. Catherine Maloney is joining us, Deputy Chief Medical Examiner, Erie County. Medical Examiner's Office, that's in Buffalo. And you can find her at nickelcityforensics.com. Dr. Maloney, the force it would have taken to pick up one of those glass paneled
Starting point is 00:34:47 coffee tables and crash it down over her mother's head, that would require a lot of physical strength and force. I mean, I would think so. Those types of tables are very heavy. And especially if her mother was even sitting, she'd have to lift it up several feet in the air. And then taking shards of the glass and stabbing her mother over and over. Dr. Maloney, I believe, and as a layperson, you're the MD, I'm just a JD, that the mother had to know what was happening. If she had been killed by just the blow to the head, I do not believe that Bustami, her daughter, would have continued to stab her.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I think she was alive, maybe stunned, but that she knew what was happening to her. Yeah, I mean, it's really hard to know. You know, it's really hard to say. You would hope that she didn't know what was happening, but yeah, I don't know. Back to David Charnes, about how many stab wounds do we know the mother suffered? Police described it as multiple lacerations, which would mean scrapes. And then it was sort of revised to say that she had had cuts as well, because according to the coroner, she died of multiple stab wounds. I don't know how many,
Starting point is 00:36:11 but as we know from covering these cases before, and as you sort of alluded to before, these are usually crimes of passion. So generally, we see multiple, multiple stab wounds. And it was enough for Hen Bustami, when she was arrested eventually in California, to be, as police described, just covered in blood. Guys, take a listen to Candice Charles. Around 2.30 Wednesday morning, 911 dispatch got a call from a woman saying her mother was dead. Then the call disconnected. When they arrived, they found a 62-year-old woman dead. We then started looking for the vehicle and the daughter. CHP was able to locate,
Starting point is 00:36:50 stop her, take her into custody about 5 a.m. this morning in Barstow, California. As neighbors started to hear the news, some tell me they were shocked, but that this was not the first time police were here. She was in handcuffs in front of the house. Fire trucks came. I'm guessing she started a fight. Our neighbor said that that incident happened a couple of months ago. So cops have been called over and over to the home. It culminated in the murder of Bustami's mother. Take a listen to our friends at KLAS 8. The 28-year-old woman accused of killing her mother in the home they shared reportedly confessed to the crime and was covered in blood during her arrest. Right now, Hend Bustami is in a California jail.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Police say she called them early Wednesday morning saying, quote, I think I killed my mommy. The victim was reportedly stabbed several times with shards of glass. California Highway Patrol caught up with Bustami in Barstow, California. We don't know yet when she will be brought back to Las Vegas. Too pretty for jail? We'll see about that. Nancy Gray's Crime Story signing off. Goodbye, friend.

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