Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Torpedo to movie mogul Harvey Weinstein's sex attack victims: charge dropped
Episode Date: October 12, 2018One of six sex assault charges against movie mogul Harvey Weinstein has been dropped in New York after the prosecutor decided there were too many questions about what actress Lucia Evans claimed. Nanc...y Grace looks at the case against Weinstein with RadarOnline. com reporter Alexis Tereszcuk, Los Angeles psycho analyst Dr. Bethany Marshall, Atlanta juvenile judge & lawyer Ashley Willcott, and private investigator Vincent Hill. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Go to nancygrace.com and register using promo code NANCY. code Nancy. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. I was sitting on the bed talking to Harvey
when he pushed me back and forced himself onto me. It was not consensual. He did not use a condom.
Once he excused himself to go to the bathroom and he came back in nothing but a robe, obviously
his whole demeanor changed. He's holding my forearm pretty forcefully and we're both now
standing in front of the mirror and he just keeps saying, just watch me, just watch me masturbate.
And I wake up and then all of a sudden he takes his pants down and starts doing his stuff and
he's blocking the door. I can't get out. And then he says, you know, you're a really nice girl. You
shouldn't tell anybody about this. In the last hours, a major victory, I hope you're sitting down,
for movie mogul Harvey Weinstein as a criminal charge is dropped.
Repeat, a criminal charge of sex attack by Harvey Weinstein has been dropped.
Is this just the beginning of the end?
I'm Nancy Grace.
This is Crime Stories.
Thank you for being with us.
Alexis Tereschuk, RadarOnline.com.
It's almost more than I can take in.
Listen, Alexis.
Prosecutors also recently obtained an email Evans wrote in 2015 to a man she later married.
They say that account differs
from the one she provided to investigators. Weinstein's attorney says he thinks Evans lied
about what happened. Lucia Evans, who you will see from the documents released, has clearly,
in our opinion, committed perjury on several occasions. But her attorney maintains she's
telling the truth. It only speaks volumes about the Manhattan DA's office and its mishandling in my client's case.
They used her for months. They had all of the evidence that they have now. They made her walk
through the scene of the crime, release her most personal therapy and medical records,
and sit through endless hours of interrogation
and prep.
Weinstein walked into Manhattan criminal court this morning where a judge dismissed a sexual
assault allegation made by one of three women in the case, actress Lucia Evans.
She had accused the movie producer of forcing her to perform oral sex during a meeting at
his office back in 2004.
But the single charge was dropped by the judge
after the court unsealed a letter Manhattan prosecutors wrote to Weinstein's lawyer last
month about new evidence uncovered. A witness claims NYPD detective Nicholas DiGaudio coached
her to stay silent about evidence partially contradicting Evans' account of the sex assault
allegation, allegedly telling her less is more.
You are hearing CBS New York 2 reporter Alice Gaynor reporting on the stunning blow to the state.
Joining me, Vincent Hill, cop turned PI, Ashton Wilcott, judge and lawyer,
Dr. Bethany Marshall, renowned L.A. psychoanalyst, and now Alexis Tereschuk,
investigative reporter, RadarOnline.com.
Alexis, what is happening?
So what's happened is the prosecutors in Manhattan have decided to drop one of the sex charges against Harvey Weinstein.
From the first victim who came forward, Lucia Evans, What they are saying is that there are multiple examples that they have found that contradict her story, her version of the attack of Harvey Weinstein.
What she said is that he forced her to perform oral sex on him, she had a different story and that Lucia had told her a different story.
And the detective told this friend, well, you are under no obligation to testify.
So Harvey Weinstein's attorneys argued that this was basically witness tampering. The detective was not following the right protocol,
had basically, in their words,
broken the law by doing what he was doing
and was damaging the case.
And the judge threw the charge out because of her.
Listen to this.
The NYPD says an internal affairs investigation
over the allegations against the detective
began a week ago and he is now off the case.
The overall criminal case against Mr. Weinstein
remains strong. The evidence is compelling. There are five remaining counts in the indictment,
including predatory sexual assault. In total, more than 75 women have come forward accusing
Weinstein of sexual abuse. But Weinstein's lawyers are seeking a full dismissal of the entire indictment
after Evans' allegation was dismissed. We argue that Lucia Evans' perjury contaminates
certainly count one, but in our opinion, the entire grand jury presentation.
Okay, that's bad. You are hearing again from CBS New York 2 reporter Alice Gaynor to Ashley Wilcott, judge and lawyer, founder of ChildCrimeWatch.com.
Ashley, is there a way, I think that there is, that they at least can argue, whether it's granted or not, that one false count in a multi-count indictment can destroy the entire indictment?
It can. And the problem with this is the process, the grand jury indicted. I believe the prosecution has the right to go forward on all
of the charges, including the one the court just dismissed. The court said there's no corroboration
that it's credible, so I'm going to dismiss the charge. I don't think the court should be doing
that. The prosecution should be allowed to charge, excuse me, try all of the
charges and then let a jury decide. Well, they can represent count six to a grand jury,
but the dismissal of count six does not affect the remaining counts of this indictment. There
have been many times in a plea agreement when somebody's charged with 10 felony
counts. I'll merge. Let's just say somebody breaks in and they're charged with a burglary
and they're charged with theft of a car. I'll merge them and I'll say, fine, you plead guilty
to the big one, burglary, and I'll drop the theft by taking a
car there's many times one count is dismissed and you go forward on the other counts in this case
I doubt very seriously there's going to be any plea bargaining going on Alexa Teresic I just
still don't understand what went wrong with Lucia Evans story story. So, two things. Her friend came forward and spoke to the detective
and the friend's account of what happened was different from Lucia. So? The detective told this.
I mean, in any case, Vincent Hill, isn't this true? I told the jury at the very beginning of the case, I'm going to bring on to you one, two, three, four, and be prepared.
Three and four saw it very differently.
They were both there.
They were at different angles.
They saw things differently.
And then you weigh what they're going to tell you.
And in the end, I think you'll agree that X, Y, and Z is what happened.
Every witness doesn't have to conform exactly to
the other witness that's right nancy it's like that old trick we used to do in school where
one person would whisper something in someone's ear you get around the entire classroom
and the story was a little different but the facts pretty much were the same so that's
exactly what could happen here when you're talking about witnesses.
A major, major blow to the state.
In the last hours, one of the counts against movie mogul Harvey Weinstein has been dropped.
What does it mean for the rest of the case?
How can all these women be ignored? He held me down on the bed.
I tried to get away or tried to get him off of me and kept asking him to stop, but it was
impossible. I remember Harvey afterwards rolling over onto his back saying, don't you feel we're
so much closer to each other now? To which I replied, no. The next thing I knew,
he had unzipped his fly and pulled out his penis.
My heart started pounding. My mind started racing. How do I deal with this?
How do I get out of this? Am I going to get out of this?
I'm telling you right now. What do we have to do here? Nothing. I'm going to take a shower.
You sit there and have a drink. Don't drink. Can I stay in the bar? No, you must come here now.
No, I don't want to. I'm not doing anything with you. I know you're embarrassing me.
I'm sorry.
I don't know.
Yesterday was kind of aggressive for me.
I know.
I need to know a person to be touched.
I won't do a thing.
I don't want to.
I won't do a thing.
Please.
I swear I won't.
Just sit with me.
Don't embarrass me in the hotel.
I'm here all the time.
I know, but I don't want to.
Please sit there.
Please.
One minute.
No, I can't.
Go to the bathroom. Please. I don't want to do something. I don't want to. Go to the. Please. One minute. No, I can't. Go to the bathroom.
Please, I don't want to do something I don't want to.
Go to the bathroom.
Come here.
Listen to me.
I want to go downstairs.
I'm not going to do anything.
You'll never see me again after this.
Okay?
That's it.
If you embarrass me in this hotel...
I'm not embarrassing you.
It's just that I don't feel comfortable.
I mean, don't have a fight with me in the hallway.
No, not in this.
Please.
I'm not going to do anything.
I swear on my children. Please come in. On everything. I'm a very uncomfortable. I mean, don't have a fight with me in the hallway. It's not nice. Please, I'm not going to do anything. I swear on my children.
Please come in.
On everything.
I'm a famous guy.
I'm feeling very uncomfortable right now.
Please come in now.
And one minute.
And if you want to leave, when the guy comes with my jacket, you can go.
Why yesterday you touched my wrist?
No, please.
I'm sorry.
Just come on.
I'm used to that.
Come on.
Are you used to that?
Yes, come in.
No, but I'm not used to that.
I won't do it again.
Come on.
Sit here.
Sit here for a minute. Come on. Are you used to that? Yes, come in. No, but I'm not used to that.
I won't do it again. Come on. Sit here.
Sit here for a minute. Please.
No, I don't want to.
If you do this now, you will be barricaded.
I don't.
They will call me again.
I'm sorry. I promise you I won't do anything.
I know, but yes, there was too much coming.
The guy is coming.
I will never do another thing to you.
Five minutes.
Don't ruin your friendship with me for five minutes.
I know, but it's kind of like, it's too much for me.
I can't.
Please, you're making a big scene here.
No, but I want to leave.
Okay, bye.
I just feel like I want to throw up after hearing that. You were hearing when one of the alleged victims of movie
mogul Harvey Weinstein coercing a young model, Ambra Batalana Gutierrez, forcing her or trying
to into a sex act. It's disgusting. And in the last hours, one of the major counts against this guy, Harvey
Weinstein, has been dropped. Now, with me, Alexis Tereschuk, RadarOnline.com investigative reporter,
is describing how a so-called friend of the victim, Lucia Evans, says that Lucia told her something different at the time. Okay. Also, prosecutors are pointing
to a letter, a letter that she, Lucia Evans, wrote to a man she later married. What was in the letter,
Alexis Drezchuk? Well, again, it was a different version of what happened with Harvey Weinstein.
But this is what happened. She wrote to him, she explained
it. This is somebody she wanted to marry. This is somebody that she was trying to not have her whole
terrible past exposed to, but it was a different version of what she'd been telling prosecutors.
And so Harvey's lawyers had pointed out to the judge saying this completely contradicts
the evidence that the prosecutors are going to present.
And you must throw this out. And the judge did.
The judge took sided with Harvey Weinstein and his top rated attorney and tossed the charge because of her.
To special guest Dr. Bethany Marshall, L.A. psychoanalyst, Dr. Bethany, I think they should have gone forward with the charge and given it to the
jury and explained to the jury the inconsistencies. That's what I think. Although, if you have a
detective who's trying to silence a witness, that may look so bad that you should just drop the
count instead of bringing it forward. Because now
the defense may bring that detective on anyway, even if that charge is not being given to the
jury just to take the entire case in front of the jury. But I really believe that if it were me,
I would have continued with the count and explained to the jury, look, she planned to marry this guy.
She did not want to tell him the whole truth.
Okay.
So she told him a partial truth in a letter.
I mean, when you're courting, you don't tell the object of your love every bad thing that ever happened to you for whatever reason.
As to the friend, I'd believe the victim
over the friend. I would absolutely believe the victim over the friend. I keep wondering what
motivation does this friend have to throw Lucia Evans under the bus? She's basically saying to a
detective, oh no, my friend wasn't really violated. She enjoyed the interaction with Harvey. To me, this is a very,
this is what we call a frenemy, not a friend, somebody who does not support the friendship.
Now, I would tell the jury what I tell my patients, which is there's a difference between
having a private life and having a secretive life. You don't have to blather the contents of your mind to everybody.
The fact is Lucia Evans was perpetrated against. She is a victim and she deserves privacy even in
the middle of her victimization. She is not obligated to tell the gory truth of what happened
to everybody. She can tell it to her therapist if she wants. She can
tell it to her gynecologist, to her care providers, to her medical doctor, but she's not obligated to
tell a man she wants to marry or her best friend or a friend she's having dinner with that night
exactly what happened between her and Harvey. For one, I'm not even so sure it's just because
she's trying to put her best foot forward with a future fiance. Sometimes when people are
aggressed against, it takes them a while to realize that a bad thing happened. Look at
Monica Lewinsky. Okay, hold on. Hold on, Bethany. Excuse me, Dr. Bethany. I want everybody on this panel, Alexis Tereszczuk,
Vincent Hill, Ashley Wilcott, Dr. Bethany Marshall, in the studio with me, Jackie Howard,
joining me from LA, Alan Duke. Is there one person on this panel that has a secret they've
never told? Is there one person that does not have a secret, something happened to them or
some incident in their life they've never told for whatever reason? I do. And I'm not going to,
nobody asked me because it's a painful secret and it makes me feel bad and I don't like it. And I certainly am not going to go and go, hey, David, guess what?
No, I don't want to. And I'm trying to say in simple, very simple terms compared to Bethany,
why should she have to tell her husband? Why not whitewash it? I mean, that's what happened. And now that letter she wrote to her future husband is being used against her.
And I am so upset, Ashley Wilcott, because Lucia's, I'm getting chills.
I'm so upset for this woman, Lucia Evans, because I believe her.
I believe when, you know, when you don't know a horse, look at his track record.
Look at what Harveyinstein has done to
all these women and then now this woman's story is getting thrown out remember this ashley wilcott
you're the judge you're the lawyer it was lucia evans the victim that introduced the friend
as a witness that's right okay right so domin, at this point, it's an issue of credibility that, again, the prosecution should decide to try or not.
As a judge, I don't think I'd want to be in the position, and I don't think I'd make the decision to dismiss one of these counts again because I, as the judge, am saying it's not credible.
There's this whole other version that we've now learned. And so I'm going to toss it.
I really, truly am troubled by the fact that this is up to the state to try him for all of these different counts.
And the state should have that opportunity to do it.
So this dismissal of one count does not sit well with me as a judge.
You know, again, when I say don't know a horse, look at his track record.
All right.
These are called similar transactions.
You don't believe Lucia Evans.
Listen.
Then I went to Cairns in May 2014.
And whilst I was there, Harvey Weinstein approached me in the Majestics in the lobby.
It was quite forceful in the sense of telling me to relax.
And I think then I started to like
get a little bit confused.
He took hold of me and pretty much forced me
to walk with him to the bathroom
where he stood me in front of the mirror.
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Take us to the moment that you knew you were in trouble with him.
Well, I had met him in New York previously,
and we had been in touch about an audition for a Quentin Tarantino film,
and I had submitted it to L.A., and then I ran back into him later,
and that's when I met with him at the
peninsula when I had moved to the West coast. So I really didn't know anything about the peninsula.
Like if he was staying there, I thought we were meeting at the bar, which we did.
And then he told me, okay, we're going to my room now after a few minutes of conversation about
movie roles. So then we go up to the suite,
and I realize he kind of, like, has a place there,
and he offers me champagne,
and it was very similar to her story,
that he just is very dominant, persuasive,
does not back down if you say no,
and kind of just forced me into doing something
I didn't want to do.
I don't want to make you feel uncomfortable,
but, you know, some people hear forced oral sex,
and they think, how, right?
Like, did he hold you down?
Could you just help us understand that?
I feel like it was a coercive thing,
just that he wouldn't let it up,
that it was just going to happen no matter how hard I refused.
And you said no. How did it end? How did you leave the hotel room?
It's just that I left after pretty much he was done with whatever he intended to do.
So I just left after.
I don't know how to put it, Jeff.
Let me ask Jeff, because he's there with you, your lawyer.
You filed the first lawsuit against them.
And it's not Harvey in particular.
It's the Weinstein Company.
And I'm wondering, well, first let me ask you, Dominique, did you ever report it to the Weinstein Company or to the board?
I did not because I had heard a lot of stories about his behavior in the past.
And I just, you know, I was an actress looking for a break.
And he's a gatekeeper.
And I felt that he used his position, you know, to try to make me do something that is not in accord with how I usually behave.
You were just then hearing actress Dominique Hewitt speaking to Megyn Kelly earlier. You heard
Cardi and Noble describing Weinstein's sex assault on her in the Majestic Hotel in France. You know,
it just never ends with this guy. And in the last hours, he's been out in the front of the courthouse waving triumphantly as another blow
to the state goes down account where the victim was Lucia Evans has been totally dismissed because
she apparently had written a letter to her now husband with a slightly different version of what
happened she didn't want to reveal everything, apparently.
And some, quote, friend, unquote,
says that she performed a sex act on Harvey Weinstein
to get a job acting.
You know, it's just the same old story, Alexis Tereszczuk.
Women being attacked.
When you, you can't, here's how it goes down.
First of all, in my experience of many, many years, trying cases, rape cases, specifically first, the defendant says,
I didn't do that. I don't even know her. I've never seen her before. Then it's established.
They were together the night of the incident. Then he goes, okay, we were together, but nothing
happened. Then you have a picture of somebody with bruises on their arms or a black eye or torn clothing they go um okay we did have sex but it was consensual
then you show the bruises and then they go oh well she liked rough sex and in the end i mean
once you go through every single defense they go well, well, she's a big party girl.
You know, this is what she wanted.
She's this.
She's that.
She's that.
She's this.
She's a liar.
So now we're at that stage where the victims are being attacked, Alexis.
And this is just the beginning.
Harvey Weinstein has decades attacking women, and he's still doing it now just through his lawyer and he has been
able to turn what would have been you know her embarrassing secret that she didn't want to tell
somebody into proof that it didn't happen even though she has been so vocal about it she's not
the only victim she's she's one of many that have come forward so credibly and told basically the exact same story over and over and over again.
But there's also been a problem.
It's really the opposite with the Manhattan District Attorney's Office because they, for years, refused to prosecute anything about Harvey.
And the DA was getting campaign contributions from Harvey's attorneys and Harvey's investigators.
Now they're trying to prosecute it, and they're now saying,
oh, they didn't do the right job.
They were trying to do it in his favor with the detective.
And now they're saying that the detective told her friend
that she was under no wrong with the Manhattan DA's office.
There's just too many stories of them not prosecuting that,
not prosecuting this, not going forward, not
investigating. I mean, they had this evidence forever. Vincent Hill, you're a cop turned PI.
They had one of the victims wired that we played earlier. Remember, that was the sound of Amber
Gutierrez saying, no, no, no. You did this to me before. No, I'm not doing this again. And they did nothing.
They've been sitting on this forever. Now they screw up account and drop it. It makes you question,
like, is it a power thing? Is it a money thing? I mean, why would they not investigate this? You
heard this young lady basically pleading for her safety and you hear Weinstein, you know,
trying to get her in this room to do the sexual act and they don't prosecute. So it really makes you wonder what the heck is going on
at that DA's office that they didn't prosecute this guy way back then.
Well, I want you to hear what Lucia Evans' lawyer, Carrie Goldberg, has to say.
Instead of rising to the challenge of their mistakes, the DA jumped ship at their first opportunity.
And Vance has done this before.
In fact, with Weinstein himself.
And we must ask, why is it so hard to hold rich, powerful predators responsible?
It raises really serious questions of bias.
You know, and people always ask, why don't sexual assault survivors come forward?
This is why. Today is why. And people always ask, why don't sexual assault survivors come forward?
This is why.
Today is why.
That's exactly why, Dr. Bethany Marshall.
That is exactly why women won't come forward.
Listen, this so-called friend never gave a different story until her father, who is a lawyer,
subjected her to a lot of questions, and suddenly she does an about face and changes her story,
claiming that the victim performed a sex act on Weinstein to get an acting job.
You know what this woman, Lucia Evans, went through to come forward?
And now this, Dr. Bethany?
It's interesting that the friend's father is an attorney, because listening to all this,
I keep thinking it's just a good old boys club. It's Benjamin Brafman calling his friend at the DA who calls somebody else and they all strike back the backdoor deals. And the, the maintaining of
the men's reputations are more important than believing the victims in this case.
And I think the fact that there's something of a sexual nature of Harvey Weinstein's crimes
and that all these prosecutors, all these people are men.
They're not women that are handling these cases.
They're men.
And I think there's this unconscious need to protect each other and to believe that
one of their own could not have subjected a woman to this. I have to agree with you. I think in this
case, not just because they're men, but for some reason, they are covering for Harvey Weinstein.
Instead of rising to the challenge of their mistakes, the DA jumped ship at their first opportunity.
And Vance has done this before.
In fact, with Weinstein himself.
And we must ask, why is it so hard to hold rich, powerful predators responsible?
It raises really serious questions of bias.
You know, and people always always ask why don't sexual assault
survivors come forward this is why today is why i agree with the lawyer for lucia evans i am stunned
stunned angry distraught one of the charges against multi-illionaire movie mogul Harvey Weinstein has been dropped.
I mean, you know, to Ashley Wilcott, judge and lawyer, every witness you put on the stand, as I used to tell my juries,
who do you think I'm putting up on the stand?
Nuns and priests and virgins?
That's not happening.
Who do you think is going to witness a murder
in the middle of a whorehouse? Okay. It's not going to be the archbishop. All right.
My witnesses have problems. Okay. They may not be the kind of witness that you'd bring home to dinner with your family at Thanksgiving. But witnesses come in all different,
an array of likability. And just because there is a claim against a witness, it's not a reason to
drop a charge of this magnitude, Ashley. No, if that were the case, criminal charges would be dropped every single day because
you're exactly right. You take your witness as you find them, and then it's your job as a prosecutor
to make their testimony credible to the eyes of the jury and them to tell exactly what they know
about the case. That's the nature of our justice system. So again, this is one, why it was dismissed is beyond me. You know, Ashley, let me tell you a little story.
I once had a woman who went by the name Nudie Pride. Okay. My children love this story.
And she got mad at her girlfriend and set a fire and burned down a whole apartment complex.
Okay. I don't think that's what she meant to do, but that's what happened. Then she sat on the and set a fire and burned down the whole apartment complex. Okay?
I don't think that's what she meant to do, but that's what happened.
Then she sat on the hood of her car and drank a beer and watched it burn,
as I recall the facts.
Well, all right, who do you think was going to be my witness?
Who?
Well, I found a witness. When the witness came in, I think it was August in Atlanta.
Here she came, walking in the courtroom.
She had on a huge fake fur hat in August.
It had to be 101 degrees outside.
You could smell the booze on her from three feet away.
When she walked past that jury, they all just looked at me.
I'm like, what?
I mean, what can I do?
She got up on the stand, and she she told her story and she was believable. God bless
her. And Nudie Pride, AKA, I don't remember her real name, went to jail. She had burned down an
entire apartment complex. Nobody was killed, by the way. What I'm saying is that's just one of many many examples i could go on and on and on
i remember driving around inner city atlanta trying to find another witness and guess who
was leading me around town a convicted rapist who told me his whole story made it sound very
believable okay whatever i found the witness you as i used to say to Vincent Hill,
sometimes you got to go to hell to get your witness to put the devil in jail.
In other words, you take your witness the way you find him
and you make the best of it and don't put perfume on the pig.
Don't try to lie to a jury.
I remember trying to avoid having to tell a jury that my other witness to an ag assault was a stripper.
I just tried to pretend it was normal that she was out at 3 a.m. in a cheerleading costume.
But they saw straight through that in a New York Minute.
And I learned at the beginning, don't withhold.
Don't try to gloss over it.
Just tell it like it is, Vincent. That it. Just tell it like it is, Vincent.
That's right. Tell it like it is, Nancy. Don't try to put on the fancy suit for this witness.
Present them just like they are because you know the defense is going to eat that alive. So just
let people know what it is from the get-go. Eat it alive and then it gives the defense kind of
something to latch onto. It throws them a bone if you try to cover up something about a witness
or just don't tell the jury something like, oh, yeah, the victim, she's a stripper.
Okay?
Just tell them.
Tell them.
And let it, and get it out.
And then try your case.
You know, I'm just so, I'm just so depressed about this.
I feel like I got kicked in the teeth, Ashley. What's that all about? It's not my case. I'm just so depressed about this. I'm feel like I got kicked in the teeth. Ashley,
what's that all about? It's not my case. I'm not prosecuting it, but it's just such a blow.
Well, that's because these victims are all women and we can all relate to these women. Everyone
on this line right now is a working female. And as a working female, you have relationships
with bosses and people that
you think you, Oh, sorry, Vincent. I apologize. I forgot you're on the line, but we all have to
admit we have or have had bosses and those people are in a position of trust, whether we're male or
female. And as a result, we think that we can trust them to be appropriate, to be a mentor, or maybe they're a crappy boss, but we still trust they're not going to sexually assault us.
That's why this resonates with you so much, I think.
You know, to Alexis Tereschuk, it all started when Weinstein got the green light to bring in the victim's emails.
Okay.
And what do we believe were in the emails, Alexis?
It was a lot of her personal history, but the one email that really triggered this was an email she
sent in 2015. So before all the news broke, before anybody knew what Harvey Weinstein had done
outside of the people in Hollywood that had known about it for decades.
Well, what do we believe the email said?
We believe that it told a different story.
It did not say that Harvey had attacked her the way that she has described it to other folks.
But this was to a man that she was dating, and he eventually became her husband.
Oh, so that, okay, so that is what I'm saying, letter.
It was that email.
Okay, there are still multiple felony counts against Weinstein.
Let's just pray and hope that the truth comes out in court.
And on another note, I want to ask you a tough question.
And Ashley and I have talked about this many times And Ashley and I have talked about this many times.
Alexis and I have talked about it many times. Dr. Bethany and Vincent and I have analyzed it when
it does happen. What would you do if your child suddenly went missing? Mine did. John David went
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Nancy Grace, Crime Stories, signing off.
Goodbye, friend.