Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - Twin sisters: One dead, one searching for a killer for 24 years. Who murdered Jody LeCornu?

Episode Date: December 28, 2020

Jennifer LeCornu Carrieri has been looking for the person responsible for her twin sister's death for 24 years. Jody LeCornu is shot while sitting in her car, There are witnesses and surveillance video, but no identity for the shooter. Joining Nancy Grace today: Jennifer LeCornu Carrieri - victim's sister Sheryl McCollum - Director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. What happened to this beautiful, beautiful girl. And now a woman inspired by the Oscar winning film, Three Billboards, puts up a huge plea offering $100,000 reward to try and find out who murdered her twin sister. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Do you know who killed Jodi LaCorna? 24 years after she was murdered, a sister is asking Baltimore the same question she's been asking for decades. Just keep trying, you know. Trying to find who murdered her sister on March Baltimore the same question she's been asking for decades. Just keep trying, you know. Trying to find who murdered her sister

on March 2nd, 1996. I feel like there's somebody out there that knows something and that we just haven't gotten to that person yet. Three new billboards going up offering a $100,000 reward. I really feel like her case is solvable and it's just, it's very frustrating to see this over over these this time and it just

it's it's making me just become more and more involved a sister's crusade to crack the case it's this terrible place to be in because i know jody was murdered when we were 23 and my life just changed forever you're hearing our our friends at WJZ CBS 13. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. And with me, the sister, the twin sister of Jodi LaCornu, Jenny LaCornu Careri, her twin sister. Also with me, director of the Cold Case Research Institute, Cheryl McCollum. Jenny, I want to hear your story.

Your story, Jenny. Starting with the time you discovered your twin sister, Jody, was murdered. Thank you. And I'm very grateful you having sharing Jody's story. And we were 23. We're identical twins, two minutes apart. We were 23 and she was shot on my parents' wedding anniversary. She was living in Towson.

It was March 2nd, 1996. We were not living together at the time. She was living with her boyfriend. And I was engaged in living out West, but we were still, you know, we were inseparable growing up, but we still, you know, that's when they had the landline phones. We still talked on the phone every day and would rack up credit card bills to come visit each other. And so she and her boyfriend had gotten into a fight the Thursday night.

I apologize. It was Friday morning that they got into a fight. Hold on, Jenny. I just want to say something. Cheryl McCollum, you have your two beautiful, beautiful children. And you told me the way it was going to be when I had the twins. You know, I want to be the closest one in the world to them. I want it to be me.

But I've had to accept it's each other. I mean, you have boy, girl. I have boy, girl, twins. They have their own ways of communicating. In fact, my favorite picture I've showed you, Cheryl, is of them immediately after their birth. And they're curled up together facing each other in the hospital and he's holding her with his two hands and she is sucking his nose oh my god yes and that is my favorite I've got so many favorite pictures why am I saying that's

my favorite but I mean they I was listening to Jenny. She was two minutes apart from Jody. The twins were one minute apart. And I mean, you can't deny that bond between twins, Cheryl. No, you can't deny it. As close as Huck and Caroline are. And they even have their own language when they were smaller. And only Caroline would only really talk to Huck and he would translate for her.

And I know twins have their own language and telepathy and everything else. And, you know, the person that literally starts life with you, like Jenny said about Jodi, that was her best friend. That was her lifelong, you know, best friend. And that's how it was going to be. And I have to tell you, the way she is fighting for justice for her, she's still Jody's best friend. You know, Jenny, I just had to weigh in on the closeness between siblings, especially twins.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Sorry to throw you off. Guys, for those of you just joining us, Jenny LaCornier-Curieri is with me. Her sister, then 23-year-old, Townsend University student, Jody, was murdered. So that evening, what happened in your life, Jenny?

Well, in my life, so I was, we, I got the, I tried to call her on the Saturday morning. So she had gone to work that day and her boyfriend told her not to come home. And so I got, it was Saturday morning, you know, she got shot in the middle of the night. It was the wee hours of Saturday. And so I, my parents called my fiance

and had him come tell me because they didn't want me to be by myself and i remember i had tried to call her and i couldn't get a hold of her and i just i had a weird feeling but nothing i mean you never think something as horrible as this, you know? And so, um, I mean, I remember clearly having these little, um, you know, my green flannel pajamas and I mean, I'll never forget it, but you know, I just, I went numb and shock. I mean, he just walked in and said, Jody's dead. And, and just how to even feel that, understand it. It's just, I mean, that's something that you see in a movie

or, you know, somebody being shot and, you know, he said she was shot in the parking lot. I can't remember the exact one. The one thing I remember is Jody's dad. And, I mean, from then on, it was just complete, just going through the motions and just getting back home to my family. And, you know, I mean, just for years, I mean, I just couldn't, I couldn't cope. I mean, it's truly been in the last couple of years that I feel like I've really started to deal with her death because I just, I couldn't, you know. Well, I've got to tell you something, and I don't know that this is good or bad, but I've never been able to bring myself to go to where my fiance was murdered. Yeah.

I don't have any desire because it will destroy me and I will be out of it for I don't know how long. And I don't want to go into a depression because of the twins, especially. They don't need that. Guys, for those of you just joining us, 23-year-old Jody LaCornue was shot in the back while she was seated in her car at the Drumcastle Shopping Center off York Road. After being shot, she managed to drive across York Road to another shopping center, and it is there that she died. Joining me in addition to her twin sister, Jenny, is director of the Cold Case Research Institute, Cheryl McCollum. Cheryl, explain to me the dynamics of that night when Jody was murdered. She had been told by her living boyfriend not to come home.

They had had a fight. So she goes on to work. Whoa, whoa, wait, wait. Why did he tell her not to come home? Why didn't she tell him not to come home they had a fight so she goes on the world whoa whoa wait right why did he tell her not to come home why why didn't she tell him not to come home that's the question i had for jenny as well i don't understand that but he did explain that jenny before we go one inch further where does he get the power to tell her not to come home right he was a lot older than she was and she liked to go to the local tavern and be with her friends so that was what he was angry at is the night before he found out she had

gone to the tavern and he didn't want her there he wanted her to be home wow wow okay i still don't understand the power dynamic of him getting to tell her, you don't come home. And she's left out in the cold and not him. But that's a whole other can of worms. Pick it up, Cheryl McCollum. So she goes to the tavern and she stays with coworkers and they stay until closing. There is a worker at the tavern that needs a ride home. So Jody gives this man a ride to his house.

He doesn't drive, so she takes him. And Jennifer will tell you that's uncharacteristic of her. She normally wouldn't do anything like that, but on this night she does. Then she makes a call back to the tavern. We don't know why or who she spoke to. Then from there, she goes to a liquor store where she buys a six pack of beer. From there, she drives to the parking lot of this little strip mall and she parks her car and she makes several other phone calls. One is to a best friend who did not answer the phone, but her boyfriend did. And they talked for a few minutes, but she made other calls that were not friendly to who they were to. Wait a minute. When you say she's parked in her car, so she's making cell phone calls?

Correct. Okay, go ahead. But what sticks out to me, Nancy, is there are very few people that I can call at three in the morning just to chit chat. I mean, if my phone rings at three, somebody's in major trouble. Somebody's in the hospital, somebody's in jail. I mean, if my phone rings at 3, somebody's in major trouble. Somebody's in the hospital. Somebody's in jail. I mean, there's a reason you're calling me at 3. But she made several calls. And, of course, the police have not released who all the calls were to. And that's one of those things that I think the family might even be able to help them with if they would disclose that.

But she made lots to call sitting there as she's sitting in this parking lot this gentleman approaches her jody's driver's window is down so she either rolled the window down to talk to this person or it was already down for whatever reason but it was snowing that night so i can't imagine she's sitting there just, you know, with the window down in the snow. There are six witnesses that see her. There's a restaurant across the street that's getting the delivery, and there's other people around that are doing jobs. They're watching this. They have some exchange at the driver's window.

All of a sudden, one gunshot rings out, and Jody is able to drive her vehicle out of the parking lot across an intersection of York Road into another parking lot of a tire store. The shooter gets in his car, drives and follows her, gets out, goes inside the driver's window. The witnesses say he took something. They couldn't tell what it was, but he removed something from her car, gets back into his car, and hightails it out of there, turns left. He put her car in park. He put her car in park. They do believe he put her car in park. He put her car in park. They do believe he put her car in park. Okay, this is what I don't understand, Cheryl,

with at least six witnesses, why no one can identify the shooter. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, Jennifer Careri has put up a billboard in the hopes it will reach people who do not see the news or TV. It's a red billboard and on it there is a photo of a stunning young woman. It's her twin sister Jody LaCornue and it reads, Find My Killer, offering a $100,000 reward. The tip line 410-887-2222. 410-887-2222. 410-887-2222. That's Baltimore County Police Department. Or you can go to Justice for Jody with the number four, justiceforjody.com. Years of anguish has led her twin sister Jennifer to take this major step in trying to solve the case.

What do we know? Listen. It's a grim anniversary for one Maryland family. 24 years ago, Jody LaCorneau was murdered in Baltimore County. Now there have been billboards. There's a reward now up to $100,000 and still no arrest. The 1996 murder of the 23-year-old Towson student in the Drum Council Government Center parking lot on York Road remains a mystery even tonight. But her twin sister Jennifer and her mother, nearly 80 years old,

haven't given up. She and I went to the grave site today, and both Joey and my dad are buried there. She and I went to the grave site today and, you know, both Jodi and my dad are buried there. And it's just hard a lot because I feel like I'm just going through the motions of my life. And it's, you know, I feel like even after all these years, I truly haven't felt, dealt with her death. And it's just, I don't know that I ever will.

But she won't give up. If you have any information, the family has set up a tip line. That number is 410-490-5069. To Jenny LaCornia Careri, this is Jody's sister. What can you tell me about the boyfriend? Did he own a gun? I did not know of him to own a gun. No. I was unaware that if he did or not. What did he do for a living?

He was a teacher at a private school in Baltimore. And what was his demeanor following your twin sister's death? Very sad and very clingy to me. You know, I'm just curious. I'm very curious about who she was with that evening. And obviously, no one she could go home with. She was out in a parking lot, sitting there, banished from her apartment by her boyfriend. Just sitting there with a six-pack i guess planning to

sit the night out in the car at a shopping center where apparently cheryl mccollum she felt very comfortable in that spot i mean cheryl have you ever for whatever reason just gone and parked your car and just sat there and thought no i have no plenty of timesenty of times. Plenty of times. Just sat there and thought, thought or made phone calls or I worked on something just to be alone and just think. As a matter of fact, Cheryl, you and I were working on a cold case murder yesterday. Right. And after we left the Homicide Cold Case Division, I had a ton of stuff to do, but I ended up going to the twin school early and I sat there and I thought about that crime victim and all the various scenarios about how her murder could have gone down, like trying to put together a Rubik's Cube over and over. By the time I looked up, over 30 minutes had passed. Right.

And I just was thinking, and I'm wondering, Jenny, what was she thinking about as she sat in that car? Well, for her, she had terrible anxiety and was literally afraid of her own closet. So for her at a young age at that time, for her to go sit in a dark parking lot was very uncharacteristic. I mean, that just wasn't something that she would do. And it was snowing that night. She was afraid to drive in the snow. I mean, she's afraid of everything. So why she wouldn't have maybe just even just gone home even though we told her not to or or she had lots of friends why she wouldn't have gone to somebody's house is just very odd to us that for her to just everything she did that night i mean she had a heart of gold she would do anything for anyone but to drive the employee home that she didn't know he was the

janitor um it just it's just not her that night to to be doing what she did another interesting fact to sheryl mccollum we know that after jody is shot and i find it very probative that she shot in the back. How was she shot in the back if the guy, the killer, was standing at her driver's window? I believe she was, and I think I can prove that she was driving away from him. So for whatever reason, something happened. He either said something or he brandished a weapon because witnesses say he's standing at the driver's window. She is actually shot through the driver's seat. So he's now behind her a little bit. When the bullet enters, it actually enters left to right side at a downward angle.

So, again, if she starts to drive off and he just pulls the gun up, it's going to be left to right. Wait a minute. The car, was it a four-door? Was the back window shattered? Yes. Okay, so it went through the back window. Okay, now I understand much better. I thought he shot through the driver's window, and I was trying to positionally figure out how she got shot in the back.

Right. If he was at the driver's window and I assumed she was reaching over to the passenger side. Now I understand she was driving away. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Jennifer Careri has put up a billboard, and on it is her twin sister, Jodi LaCornue, and it reads, Find My Killer. 23-year-old Jodi LaCornue was shot in the back while she was seated in her car at the Drumcastle Shopping Center.

After being shot, she managed to drive across York Road to another shopping center. And we also know that after she shot and drives across the street, her car circles and stops at a curb. The man, we think the killer, watched from his vehicle. He had a vehicle until it rolled to a stop between a Boston Chicken and a Firestone tire. And he then approached the car, leaned over her, put it in park, grabbed something from next to her on the seat. Then the killer drives off. Is the killer the one doing all of that cheryl yes he's false well nobody can identify his car they know it's a white bmw they know white bmw see that's new information to me right there white bmw they not only have the six witnesses they have videotapes

they have a description of him wearing a camouflage jacket. He's stocky. He's about 5'6", about 200 pounds. They know the description. I don't understand why this has not been solved. Take a listen to our friend at WJZ, CBS 13. This is Devin Bartolotta. The nightmare for Jody began after a night out at the Washington Tavern in the early morning hours of March 2nd, 1996. Just steps from the city county line. Police believe Jody was shot while sitting in her car in this parking lot. She then drove across the street to York Road Plaza. Her killer followed her and then reached into the car. Witnesses described the shooter as a black male with a stocky build wearing a camouflage jacket. But nearly 23 years later, no one knows what he took from inside Jody's car. He took off south on York Road in a white BMW. Years after leads ran dry, maybe money will talk. You know, to you, Jenny, Jenny LaCornu Careri, this is Jody's twin sister.

What do you believe he took from her car? Well, the police always told us that something was taken from her car but wouldn't tell us what it was. But then they would say her purse was missing. And then Cheryl and I just learned in the last couple of weeks that her phone, my parents had bought her one of those bag phones because they were worried about her living in Baltimore. And so now we learned that her phone and her purse were not there. So that's a lot for him to take. What is a bag phone? Nancy, you know the old cell phones that were literally in a bag?

Like they were in a little big... Oh my goodness. Like a big... Yeah. Everybody in the studio is acting it out and gesticulating. A big phone about the size of a what? Almost like a little lunch pooper. Like a little bag.

Like a pretty good size. Okay. All right. So she had one of those. So that's missing. And her pocketbook is missing. What? They couldn't trace any of that?

None of her credit cards were ever, were credit cards ever used, Jenny? I don't know. I mean, there's very limited information that we've gotten. And where she ended up, there was camera. They did obtain video. But where she ended up in a giant parking lot, they told us the cameras happened to be down that night. Okay, this is just, Cheryl, this is just so wrong. I don't know if her credit cards were used, her ATMs were used, any of her checks were forged.

I don't know if they tried to trace her cell phone. I don't know any of those answers. Credit cards were used. Her ATMs were used. Any of her checks were forged. I don't know if they tried to trace her cell phone. I don't know any of those answers. Why aren't police releasing any of that? You know, the Boy Scouts could have solved her case. I mean, seriously, the way that I've seen in the years, everything that I've done looking into their investigation and Baltimore County brags about their clearance rate. They have missed so much. They have told me they've interviewed people. They haven't, they've contradicted, they've been inappropriate. They've been disrespectful. They've been horrible. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What do you mean inappropriate and disrespectful?

The detective, my communication with him, I mean, has he's been inappropriate and him and his bosses. I mean, they've been I mean, I had their lawyer slam the door. I had a lawsuit trying to get records. Their lawyer slammed the door in my face. They talked down to me. It's been horrible. It's been a nightmare.

When you say inappropriate, what do you mean by that? So, well, I mean, if you want me to give you some of the comments, the detective that's been on the case since day one shared with me about having a relationship with a sister of a suspect and how he was separated from his wife. Just sharing things that I don't need to know. Wow. Okay. Cheryl, I don't understand what's going on within the PD, the police department here, and why are they shutting her out? Why is she, why is Jeannie LaCornia Careri having to take out a billboard to try to get her sister's murder solved, Cheryl?

Nancy, it's worse than that. It's worse than that. She literally had to sue the police department to find out how her sister died. They would refuse to show her the autopsy report. They refused to tell her who they talked to, who her sister called, anything related to this case. She's never seen one shred of paper, one tidbit of information from the police department.

And I told her I've never known of a homicide case where the family was not told the manner of death, exactly what happened to her. You know, I'm trying to figure out how your lawsuit can get answers to Jeannie LaCornu Careri. This is Jody's sister. What has become of the lawsuit? Where does it stand now? So, well, I mean, just to tell you, my family has put in almost $30,000 in trying to get her records and we've done seven billboards total. I've done one, I did a plea to the governor. I did one to the state's attorney. And where it stands is we were unable to get anything. And so with the lawsuit, and I have a pro bono law firm that's come forward to help me.

Basically what the lawsuit was, it was clear we weren't getting anywhere. And my attorney, they basically came up with a confidential agreement, which basically was nothing, that I shut up and they're going to be working on the case again. I can't really get into specifics, but that's the gist of it. And so we're still where we were 23 years ago. That's the bottom line. It's put me and my family through hell, and they're still sitting on their asses apologizing. And it's like they don't want to solve her case.

And why, I don't want to solve her case. And why, I don't know. You know, I'm trying everything I can to continue to keep her story out there. You know, I've met with the governor's office. I've gone to the county executive's office. Everybody says they're going to help me. Nobody does. I can't talk to the police directly because of the lawsuit, which ended a couple years ago.

And they want me, you know, I'm supposed to be talking to their attorney, the one that screamed at me and slammed the door in my face because I asked a question. So, yeah, it's horrible. I don't understand it. To Cheryl McCollum, director of the Cold Case Research Institute, what is this, Baltimore County PD? What jurisdiction is this in? Are they that angry? Jenny wants answers. I've never seen anything like it, Nancy.

I've contacted the detective myself. I told him I had just 13 questions. He said, send them. I'll get them to our PIO and I'll answer them. He wouldn't answer any of them. And some were very simple. Was her purse taken from the car? Because I think we can prove that it was.

They never gave it back to her. The phone is missing. So obviously those are the two things she grabbed. I mean, here's what's astonishing to me, that you get to the point with a victim of crime that they have to sue you for something as simple as the autopsy report. Anybody that wants an autopsy report can go down and get it. The manner of death in Jody's case would not hinder this

investigation at all. It's not like a crime scene where there's some specific signature that they're trying to keep from the public because it's part of who this person is and they know there's other cases like it. They have refused to answer simple questions like Jennifer didn't even know she was shot in the back. She assumed it. But there's one crime scene photograph they released, and I showed her. I said, well, honey, there's a bullet hole right there in the back of the driver's seat. I said, I can tell you she was shot in the back.

And I said, what probably happened is it either nicked the lung or her heart. It might have ricocheted a little bit. She had internal bleeding. But if you can't breathe, you die. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A woman puts up a huge plea, offering $100,000 reward to try and find out who murdered her twin sister.

With me, Jenny LaCornu Careri. In these years that have passed since Jodi was murdered, they've got surveillance video, although they say that snow that evening interfered with them being able to see anything. They've got an ID on the car, an ID on the perp. Who knows what else they've got? I mean, if he reached into the car, did they get a fingerprint? Did he touch anything?

They have fingerprints. Has it been sent to APHIS? I mean, you know, the national. They left the kid in the car. They actually left the fingerprinted kid in the car when they returned it to my parents. Which means that somewhere. Yeah. You know what, Cheryl McCollum?

It's very hard for me to believe that this guy went from zero to 120 MPH in one night. What does that say to me? That means he's got a record somewhere. I'd be curious at the fingerprints, were they able to get fingerprints and were they plugged into APHIS, the national data bank of fingerprints? But question to you in the years that have passed since Jody was murdered. Jenny, how has Jody's murder affected you? You know, I think I was just so numb for so long and I couldn't wouldn't let myself feel. I just I literally had to just shut it all down. It was it was so incredibly painful.

And I mean, I was horribly anxious and depressed. And I mean, I was horribly anxious and depressed. And I mean, I couldn't even be alone. And, you know, I moved back home and I couldn't even be alone. I was 23 and I couldn't be alone in a room. I would sleep with my mother. I was just terrified for years. Well, you know what, Jenny? I used to sleep with my mom and dad after Keith was murdered.

They would let me get in between them. And I don't know how long I did that because I just could not get through the night. So many nights. And I do not think that is uncommon. Jenny, these years have passed without Jody. Birthdays, Christmases, weddings. How has her murder and the fact her case has never been solved affected you as your life moves forward? Like I said, I couldn't deal with it for the longest time, but I feel literally like part of me died that day.

I mean, it's like you're living one life and then it's another life. I mean, for years, I feel like I'm just going through the motions. I ended up getting married. I didn't want to have a wedding because it was just too sad. So my husband and I eloped. You know, then my father, I wanted to also mention he was a prosecutor. He prosecuted drug and violent crime cases. And my grandfather was many years in the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover.

So, I mean, we have definitely a history of service. And so, but my father became very ill after Jody died. And with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, it was like just another really, really horrible time taking care of him. And it's literally been like in the last couple of years, really like feeling her death. And people would be so worried about me because I couldn't. They'd be like, you're not dealing with this. And it's been hard.

I mean, you talk about depression. I mean, I've gotten really low. I mean, I've been extremely depressed, extremely anxious, wanted to die. I mean, it's caused horrible battles in my marriage. I mean, with my fight for justice and, you know, I suffer with a terrible eating disorder. And that just is horrible, like, you know, anxiety. And it just it's like I can't cope sometimes. And, you know, it's like some days I'm like just like going through the motions, motions you know and Jodi always loved bunnies and it's like every once in a while I'll see a bunny rabbit and I feel like it's her like sending me a sign or something because I have really really struggled like I said with

the depression and like trying to want to keep going you know and you know I have three children so it's really hard and and it's hard I mean mean, it's been really hard. I mean, day to day, my husband, like I said, he he's been supportive, but I really like have done a lot of things with her case interviews and things. And then I feel like I feel guilty with my family, like I'm not giving them me, you know what I mean? Well, I don't know if this would help in any way, but Cheryl McCollum, victims of violent crime, many of them go through this. They have a death wish. They don't want to live. Trust me, I understand what you're saying, every word of what you're saying. You have been quoted in the past, Jenny, as saying that you believe this case can be solved. Cheryl McCollum, agree or disagree? Absolutely agree. No question about it. And this person who did it told people, you know as well as I do, they would mention it, they would brag about it. This person's been in and out of jail. Other people know this story from the shooter.

And what, you know, Jennifer's doing is so amazing. And I want to brag on her one second. As you know, Nancy, I have four sisters, extraordinarily close to all four of them. You have a sister that you're extraordinarily close to. And I know after Keith's murder, you went even and stayed with her, and she helped you get through that awful time. I went to Baltimore to walk the crime scene, and Jennifer met me there because, you know, I'm visual. I want to see it and understand it.

And we go into this little coffee shop. Now, keep in mind, she's got these billboards up. She's doing major, you know, media. She's doing Nancy Grace. She's doing Nancy Grace. She's working with Lester Holt, different people. She goes into the coffee shop, cute girl behind the counter, and she says, Hey, have you seen my sister's billboard? Please, on your break, go look at it.

Nancy, it took all I could do not to start literally crying in that coffee shop thinking, Here, this poor woman is literally going person to person to person forget the nancy graces and the lester holtz and the billboards she is going to people individually to try to make sure they know about jody and what happened to her and that just said so much to me about her heart and the reason she's really doing this and the power in that sister bond that you just cannot deny. So I wanted to say that about her. And I also wanted to say personally, again, to you and Lee Egan, Nancy, what y'all are doing and what you've already done for her. I will tell you, there has been a small victory.

Jennifer, you want to tell us what you were able to get, Simon? Thank you. We did get the autopsy report. Thanks to you guys. You've really just moved me to tears because, you know, I don't know what world it is that it is a victory that you get your sister's autopsy report. But the reality is it is a victory. Guys, if you can help us, please call 1-866-756-2587. Please help us catch this beautiful young girl, Jodi LaCourteuse, killer. Please give her twin sister, Jenny, some peace. Nancy Grace, Crime Story, signing off. Goodbye, friend.

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