Crime Stories with Nancy Grace - WILD DASH: BODYCAM AS COPS STORM TEEN’S HOME AFTER HER TERRIFIED 911 CALL

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

Rachel Hansen is well-known in the Gilbert community as a bona fide horse whisperer. At 14, Rachel teaches younger children to ride and breaks yearlings. She excels academically, is the only girl on the football team, and shines as a star soccer player. So accomplished, she graduates high school early at just 16. After graduating, Rachel runs a busy horse training business, AZ Hansen Horses, where she finds and breaks wild horses for clients. She also arranges to live and work as a trainer on a ranch in Queen Creek. While living and working on the ranch, Rachel's relationship with the owner begins to deteriorate. A payment dispute arises over a breeding deal involving Rachel's mare, Dash, and an accident while transporting horses damages a trailer. The owner informs Rachel she won't be paid for her final month of work and her services are no longer needed. Rachel removes her belongings from the property and plans to move into an apartment she's subletting to tenants the following week. Rachel moves some belongings into the apartment. Though still mostly empty, it’s enough for her to sleep there. She decides to spend the night. Around midnight, Rachel wakes to someone standing over her. She screams, and the intruder flees. It appears they had a key. Rachel's fiancé arrives quickly and replaces her lock with one from his father's house. He suggests calling the police, but Rachel believes the intruder simply didn’t realize the previous tenants had moved out. Just after 2 a.m., Rachel Hansen calls 911 and says, “Someone broke in and shot me.” The dispatcher gets Rachel's address and instructs her on how to stop the bleeding while police and paramedics are en route. Rachel says she doesn't have any cloth or towel nearby to use. The dispatcher notes Rachel is becoming less responsive and sounds close to passing out. The dispatcher also warns officers that the shooter has left the apartment but advises them to remain vigilant. An officer finds Rachel crumpled on the bathroom floor with a gunshot wound to her chest. Another officer sweeps the apartment and discovers blood and a spent shell casing in Rachel's bed. Officers note the apartment seems unusually empty, but there are no signs of a struggle, and Rachel's jewelry and other valuables remain untouched. The case remains unsolved   Joining Nancy Grace today:  Kim Hansen - Mother   Justin Yentes – Private Investigator for Grimm Family and Criminal Defense Investigator at Arizona Investigative Associates; IG: @truthbefoundposcast  Dr. Brie Pileggi  -  Board Certified Forensic Psychologist at Veritas Forensic Psycholog;y IG and FB: @veritasforensicpsych  Dr. Eric Eason – Board-certified Forensic Pathologist, Consultant; Instagram: @eric_a_eason, Facebook: Eric August Eason, LinkedIn: Eric Eason, MD Ashley Holden - Reporter  ABC15  Phoenix, AZ; www.abc15.com; IG & FB: @ashleyvholdentv  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The wild and panicked dash body cam footage shows cops storming a teen girl's home after her terrified 911 call. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. An independent 19-year-old calls 911 when an intruder breaks into her apartment. She tells the operator, I've been shot. Hi, I've been shot. Someone broke in and shot me.

What address are you at? 1925 South Coronado Street. What apartment? So 1925 South Coronado Street in Gilbert, Unit... Yes, please. Please hurry. Please hurry. I'm bleeding. I'm bleeding. Okay, let me get this over to paramedics to get you pre-arrival. Anyone in the home with you? No. Did the person leave? Yes. Stay on the phone with me, okay? I'm going to get us over to paramedics. With that much notice, the shooter had just left the apartment, but still, Rachel's murder is unsolved. With me, an all-star panel of guests to make sense of what we know tonight, but straight out to a special guest joining us is Kim Hansen. This is

Rachel's mother. Ms. Hansen, thank you for being with us. And I want to apologize for what we are going to discuss. I wonder how upsetting it must be to hear her on that 911 call. Yes, it is. We have never heard anything. We've just seen a transcript. So it is. We have never heard anything. We've just seen a transcript. So it is difficult to hear. Ms. Hanson, tell me how you learned something had gone horribly wrong. Well, I was in Indiana at the time babysitting two of our grandchildren. And my husband called me about 10 o'clock in the morning

and told me to sit down. He had to tell me some very disturbing news. He first learned around 7 a.m. Saturday morning when two Gilbert police officers came to our home and knocked on our front door and sat down with him. Tell me, Ms. Hanson, what your husband told you he had learned from police. Well, he just said that Rachel's gone. We've lost her. And she had been shot one time. She had been transported to the hospital where they fought for three hours to save her life. And I'm very grateful for that. I was able to speak to the surgeon afterwards for about an hour, and he told me everything they did, and they felt like they were going to be able to save her because she was so young and so strong, but she just was not able to pull through. She was very coherent and could understand

everything she said when she called 911. So what did you learn after that, Ms. Hansen? Just that she was very coherent. She was able to jump out of bed, grab her cell phone as she would do because she was just such a fighter. And when anything was wrong, she was the first to jump out of bed, grab her cell phone, as she would do because she was just such a fighter. And when anything was wrong, she was the first to jump in and try to solve it. So that's what she did for herself. And she was coherent until paramedics were there and starting to work on her. And then she kind of lost the ability, the consciousness, and to answer their questions. Ms. Hanson, what have you learned about the exact nature of the gunshot wound? Where was she shot?

She was shot one time, and it entered her lower left abdomen and traveled through so many vital organs and arteries in her body and exited the top right shoulder. So lower left abdomen trajectory path going upward exit from the top right shoulder. Is that correct? That is correct. Yes. Was she left-handed or right-handed? She was right-handed. That is very critical in the analysis of what happened. Ms. Hansen, tell me about Rachel. We are showing videos and photos of her right now. She's the real life horse whisperer. Yes, yes, Rachel absolutely was.

And it came very, very naturally to her. She came to our family when she was six years old as a child that had been in foster care and needed a permanent home. And we were more than willing to give that to her. So at six years old, she joined our family in February and was legally adopted in May. And at that time, we had sold and rehomed all of our horses from our older biological daughters who had gone to college and gotten married. And so we were kind of moving out of that. But sweet Rachel would climb up on the fence and look out at the pasture area and just long for a horse. And so knowing that's what this little girl needed to work through a lot of the trauma that she'd had, we got her a horse. And so knowing that's what this little girl needed to work through a lot of

the trauma that she'd had, we got her a horse and that's where it all started. And we would come downstairs early in the morning and she would already be sitting on the back of a horse in the backyard all by herself. And she just lived on the back of whatever horse we had. We started obviously with an older, very gentle horse. And then she progressed and we got another one that was younger that she could work more with. And the beautiful mare that you see her on mostly, we got Dash when Rachel was 12 and Dash was four. Ms. Hanson, you mentioned that Rachel was working through the trauma that she suffered being in the foster system, which in my experience can be overwhelming. What trauma, to what trauma are you referring?

Rachel clearly could speak of this herself, so I know it is the truth. When she was three years old, her biological mother left the home about 10 o'clock at night to get milk and never returned. So that was her first loss. Then she was living in an apartment with who she assumed was her father or grandfather, about a 60-year-old man that cared for her for a short time. And then she found him dead on the floor. So that was a second loss for her. So at that time, she was immediately taken to emergency receiving foster care, where she stayed for a short time in a shelter environment and then

went to a home, a foster home, who said they were going to adopt her. But after about six months, changed their mind and told her they were not going to adopt her, but that she could stay there until her forever family was found. So that was her third abandonment in just six years. So that's a lot of trauma for a small child. And it was at that time she came to us. Poor sweet girl. And now this. We have learned a lot from the body cam, and you heard our 911 reenact.

Listen to the body cam. This is a negative number, this way. And she's the only one in there? Uh, she's the only one in there? She's the only person in the second floor. Rachel, can you hear me? Can you hear me? Rachel, say what the hell she's talking about. She's talking about the police. Let's go. Come on.

You are hearing the officer stating, what's your name? What's your name? Talk to me, Rachel. Stay with us, Rachel. Stay with me. And more. Let's get one more officer. We can at least go down there and clear it and make sure no one's sitting over there.

We need to clear down this hall, but there's nothing there. You can't go any further. Come up here and we can clear it down this hallway. Joining me in addition to Rachel's mom, Kim Hansen, is Justin Yentis. Justin Yentis, criminal defense investigator at Arizona Investigative Associates. Justin, this case is so upsetting because as you hear the officer stating, we got to go clear the building,

we got to clear this hall, they're clearing it because they know the shooter has just left. But yet we still don't have the killer. We don't. It's been two, two and a half years. And correct, we still have no arrests in this case and no finalization for the Hansons. Do you believe that the apartment was processed appropriately, Justin Yentes, for fingerprints, anything that could lead us to the killer? From my understanding, it was, unfortunately, or just the situation is that it is an ongoing investigation.

And so while we have been able to obtain some records from Gilbert Police under the Arizona Public Records Law, there's quite a bit that has been redacted. So we don't know to what extent the scene was processed or what evidence all was found and what type of testing or follow up investigation was done on that. Most of the most of the indications of that have been redacted. Question, Justin, was the weapon recovered? As far as I know, no, it was not. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

Joining me in addition to Kim Hansen and Justin Yentis, investigative reporter, ABC 15 Phoenix, Ashley Holden. Ashley, thank you for being with us. Thank you for having me, Nancy. Ashley, what can you tell me about the area, specifically apartment complex? Well, the area itself and the apartment complex, Gilbert is considered a pretty safe community in the East Valley. And people think of it as a place that they want to raise a family. Many people think of it as like a small town area just outside of Phoenix. So kind of suburbia, if you will. But the apartment that you're looking at,

this is a gated Gilbert apartment complex that one would think would be very safe. One thing that we noted from that over 330 plus page police report that we just got this month was that when police went and they started asking people for camera footage, some of the neighbors had ring doorbell footage. But this complex told police that they didn't have any working cameras, which is something as you look at this apartment complex, you would think that they would have. Does it never end? Justin Yentis joining us, investigator at Arizona Investigative Associates. How can anybody forget the case of summer intern in D.C., Chandra Levy? Remember? So much time passed before her case was solved.

Years. And it brought down a congressman, Gary Condit. Do you recall that? Long story short, the building where Shondra lived had repeating video. And so by the time police realized they need to look at her leaving in the lobby, did she have on an evening dress? Did she have on a cocktail dress? Did she have on jogging gear? Was she alone? Which way did she head out of the apartment building? Long story short, they lost all that because it repeated over after 72 hours. And here, now we learned that the apartment complex

had video cameras that didn't work. Yeah, that's correct. And generally speaking, security tape records over every 30 to 90 days. But in this case, it's it just was nonexistent. So back to Ashley Holden, investigative reporter, ABC 15. Ashley, you stated that some of the neighbors had ring doorbell footage. Yeah, that's what we can tell in that police report is that they describe seeing some footage that shows Rachel kind of in the hours leading up, walking around with people, doing things like going to the pool. But as Justin mentioned, there are major, major parts of that police report that has been redacted. And so many things that were in that report, we don't know, we can't read. So we don't know exactly what police have when it comes to video other than what is unredacted in that report. Just after 2 a.m. Rachel Hansen calls 911 and says someone broke in and shot me. The dispatcher gets Rachel's address and tries to

help her stop the bleeding while police and paramedics are on the way. Rachel says she doesn't have any kind of cloth or towel near her to use and the dispatcher notes that Rachel is less and less responsive and it sounds like she's about to pass out. The dispatcher notes that Rachel is less and less responsive, and it sounds like she's about to pass out. The dispatcher notes that the shooter has left the apartment, but warns officers to be vigilant. A compassionate animal lover last seen on a neighbor's ring camera. After late night swimming, police find Rachel Hansen in her bathroom. Who shot Rachel?

Gilbert P.D. initially struggled to locate Rachel's apartment but arrived within five minutes of her call. Cops call out for her and she weakly responds, I'm in here. An officer finds her crumpled to the floor of her bathroom with a gunshot wound to her chest. As another officer sweeps the apartment, he finds blood and a spent shell casing in Rachel's bed. Officers note that the apartment seems oddly empty, but there are no signs of a struggle in Rachel's jewelry and other valuables are untouched. So what is the motive? Who murdered this beautiful teen girl, Rachel Hansen? With me, her mom to Kim Hansen, Rachel's mother. Kim, again, thank you for being with us. I really, I don't know how you put one foot in front of the other, much less join us here, hear the words from the 911 call

and our discussion of the evidence. Ms. Hansen, how do you keep going? I have to keep going for Rachel. And as hard as it is, especially sitting here watching all these pictures, I do it every day for her. I gain strength to put one foot in front of the other because I would do anything for my girl. And this is just part of the fight to find justice, to find who took her life so randomly and so early. So it's been hard. It's been the hardest thing I've ever done in my life, but I will continue to do it and gain strength knowing that I'm helping her still to this day. Nothing any mother wouldn't do. Dr. Eric Eason is joining us, certified forensic pathologist.

You can find him on FB at Eric August Eason. Thanks, Dr. Eason, for being with us. Dr. Eason, I want to clarify several things that we know so far. Her wound has been described as a chest wound, and in a sense sense that is correct. However, the entry wound was at her lower left abdomen. The trajectory path was upward and I would think slightly toward the front, back to front.

Because it came, the exit wound was the upper right shoulder. That said, what would have occurred? What would Rachel have suffered? You heard her words on the 911 call. She was perfectly coherent and could call 911. Why couldn't she be saved? Well, it sounds like if the entrance wound was to the left abdomen, the bullet would have gone in through organs of the abdomen, probably some of the intestines, perhaps. If the exit was to the right shoulder, it sounds like it would have made its way into the chest cavity, probably would have gone through the right lung and then exited out the right shoulder. It sounds like going through the right lung, you're not going to be able to breathe very well and you're going to lose a lot of blood. And if the bullet went through the liver, you're going to lose a lot of blood, too.

But it would explain why she would not have gone immediately unconscious. And it would also explain why she didn't make it because of the bullet going through the right lung and would have lost a lot of blood. Okay, I know it makes perfect sense to you what you just said, but why is it that she would not have died immediately? Well, the bullet did not go through the brain and that's not going to cause an immediate lack of consciousness and it also did not go through a major blood vessel, it doesn't sound like,

because you can lose blood very quickly, like if it goes through the aorta or some other large blood vessel. And that's why she would not have lost consciousness immediately. Do you believe her lungs just filled up with blood and she couldn't breathe anymore? Or did she have such massive internal bleeding that she died from loss of blood. Probably a combination of the two. When a bullet goes through the lung, through any lung, whether it's the right lung or the left lung, you're going to have an inability to breathe because the lung is going to collapse. And then if the bullet passes through a large blood vessel in the lung,

you're also going to have a combination of blood loss at the same time. So the blood's not really going to collect in the lung, but it'll collect in the chest cavity, which is where the lungs hang out. So there's probably some blood found in the right chest cavity is what I'm thinking has probably happened. Another issue that I want to clarify, it would be really easy for someone to just say, oh, we heard she had a troubled childhood, which she did until Kim Hansen's family took her in and gave her a beautiful, beautiful life. Some people would argue, oh, she committed suicide. There's no way with this trajectory path that this young girl shot herself. First of all, she's right-handed and she would have had to shoot herself through the lower abdomen. Think of your left hip bone at an angle, an upward angle.

So you'd have to be holding the gun like in a very odd position up for the path of the bullet. That's what we mean by trajectory path to come up and through and exit the right shoulder. Physically impossible. I would say. Dr. Eason, do you agree or disagree? Well, I mean, I agree mainly based on location of the entrance wound, not necessarily the trajectory. So the fact that the entrance wound is located on the left abdomen kind of tells me that it was not self-inflicted.

Individuals who intentionally shoot themselves, they're going to place the gun against the head, mainly the temporal region or the temple or intraoral. But a suicidal gunshot wound to the left abdomen just doesn't make a lot of sense. The other issue to consider is the range of fire of the entrance wound. So if there is a lack of searing around the wound edges or sit deposition or stippling, which is gunpowder tattooing is what we call that, that would indicate that the gun was far away from the body. So we're talking at least two and a half, three feet away, in which case self-infliction would not even be possible because the gun would have had to have been far away. Otherwise you would have gunshot residue deposited onto the target. Well, another issue is, another issue is

that if she had shot herself, which she did not, she would have had to do so with her non-dominant left hand. You know, a lot of people can't even brush their teeth or fix their hair with the non-dominant hand. So now we expect for this teen girl to shoot herself with a non-dominant hand. So now we expect for this teen girl to shoot herself with a non-dominant hand in the lower abdomen at an upward angle. To me, trajectory path is very important, although you disagree, because you'd have to hold the gun to your left abdomen, non-dominant hand, and at the same time, which is low down on your hip, point the gun upward for it to have that path. So how in the world could that have happened? It couldn't have.

And another issue, and let me throw this to Justin Yentis, an investigator at Arizona Investigative Associates. Obviously, she did not shoot herself because no weapon was recovered. How could she shoot herself and then get rid of the weapon? That didn't happen. Exactly. It didn't. And I mean, unless there's some information in the redacted part of the police report that identifies a weapon, we have no indication that a weapon was ever recovered. Ashley Holden with us, investigative reporter, ABC 15 Phoenix.

Ashley, do we know, was Rachel clothed? In the police report, it seems like, yes, she was wearing clothes at the time. What is interesting in the police report is that as Rachel is taken to the hospital, there is a change. Obviously, Rachel is taken. She's being treated. And then after, in the hours after, as they learn that obviously Rachel passed away, police are then trying to track down her clothes at the hospital. What happened to them's clothes and if police ever got custody of them again. It is a question that we asked police after reading that report and they would not answer for us. Gilbert PD investigators check on Rachel's neighbors. No one else was hurt or even knew someone had been shot next door. Everyone says they didn't hear anything. The complex does not have any working cameras

and no units in the vicinity of Rachel's apartment have ring cameras, but one officer finds a ring camera across from Rachel's detached garage. The camera captures the teen walking with her fiance toward the complex pool just after 9 p.m. A compassionate animal lover last seen on a neighbor's ring camera after late night swimming. Police find Rachel Hansen in her bathroom. Who shot Rachel? Cops have now released new information in Rachel's case, including a 330-page investigative report and 27 clips of body camera footage from responding officers. All of the information is heavily redacted, but reveals new details in the investigation. That body cam footage that we are

playing for you, if we could see that now, shows police storming into Rachel's apartment after her desperate 911 call. But even though her 911 call was made immediately after she shot, still no leads. There you see police clearing the hallways because according to Rachel Hansen, the shooter had just left and she's still coherent, can still speak. There you see them going into the apartment, calling out to her. Rachel talked to us and she says, I'm here. They find her crumpled to the floor in her bathroom with a gunshot wound to the abdomen. And that same shot goes through her chest. Another officer sweeps the apartment, finding blood and a spent shell casing in Rachel's bed. So that indicates she was shot in the bedroom. To Kim Hansen joining us, this is Rachel's mother. Ms. Hansen, again, thank you for being with us. I'm

trying to spare you a lot of the details while focusing on the evidence I find probative. She was not shot then in the bathroom where she was found. That spent casing shell indicates she was shot in the bedroom. Could she have been shot as she was on the run to the bathroom or trying to get away? What do you know about the condition of the bedroom? Was it turned upside down? Was the bed still made? What do you know about her bedroom? What we know is that she had a king-size bed, had just moved it into the apartment the day before. It was not fully put together because she was still moving in. And she was sleeping in her bed, we believe, when the shooter kicked her bedroom door open, maybe took one step because it wouldn't

be very far and shot her while she was sleeping while her dog and her foster pup were in the room with her. I don't believe that she even had a chance to get out of bed until she had been shot, at which time she jumped up and grabbed her cell phone. And I believe at that time made her way to the bathroom. And previously you were asking about the clothes that she was wearing. I believe that when we went to the apartment Tuesday or Wednesday after she was shot, after we lost her, what she was sleeping in was on the floor in the bathroom. And it was just a pair of black shorts and a black cami, what she normally would sleep in at night.

And that was left there in the bathroom. So those clothes were probably taken off her by EMTs trying to save her life. To you, Dr. Eric Eason, the fact that mom says she was lying in the bed would totally explain the upper trajectory path. It could, yes. If she was lying in bed and the shooter was on the other side of the room and she was lying flat, that would explain the upper trajectory path. We base everything on the anatomic position. So if you have an interest wound to the left abdomen and an exit to the right shoulder. Even if you're lying down when the shooting occurred, we assume everybody is injured while they're standing in the anatomic position.

And so that wound trajectory would be upward correct. Joining us now, a special guest, board-certified forensic psychologist. And you can find her at VeritasForensicPsychology.com, Dr. Bree Pelleggi. Dr. Bree, thank you for being with us. I was thinking about what the neighbors said that we didn't hear a thing. You know, very often when you do hear something, you don't register. Was that a gunshot? You think, oh, was that a kickback from a car or what was that? Is it because we don't want to think it's a gunshot? Well, why is that? Because I find it really difficult. Nobody heard it. And it absolutely happened. Absolutely. I think a lot

of times people want to assume that the place that they're living in is safe. And so they may think it's a firework. It's a vehicle. That doesn't happen here. You know, I'm very curious. Kim Hansen, this is Rachel's mom. She was viewed on the neighbor's ring cam. I believe it was around 9 p.m. And then she was shot a few hours later. And at that time she was with the fiance. Is that correct? Yes, that's correct. So that evening, how do we know the fiance went home? He told us that he did. He left around midnight. We later learned that he was called to come home. And so he left, which would not be out of the ordinary. He has a landscaping business.

And in the Arizona heat, they have to start very early in the morning. So it would make perfect sense for him to leave and go home to be ready to go to work at 5 a.m. But wait a minute. What time was the shooting? The shooting was at 2 a.m. So Justin Yentes joining us, a renowned investigator, Justin, explain to me that timeline. He went home at five, but the shooting was at two-ish? Well, it's and we don't have the phone records, but we understand that Mr. Bailey was called home sometime in the late evening on June 3rd and then or very early, very early in the morning on June 4th. And then the shooting happened a couple of hours later at 207. Well, at least the 911 call came in at 207 in the morning.

Justin, hold on. Called home by him? By his father. Okay. So the father calls him home at what time? We believe it's sometime in the late hours of June 3rd or the very early morning of June 4th. And his father is the owner of the landscape business where he worked. OK, Kim Hansen, can we nail down what time the dad called him home to get him up for the next morning?

I believe it was 1130 and he left by midnight. It's my understanding. Okay. So obviously to Ashley Holden joining us, investigative reporter, ABC 15 Phoenix, obviously that can be corroborated by cell phone data, a nav system in the car, many, many ways to corroborate what time the fiance leaves and what time he gets home. And we would love to know what kind of evidence police looked at. Did they pull that cell phone data? What we do know is that police did talk to Rachel's fiance, did interview him. And I will say in that police report in the days leading up to when Rachel was shot, we did learn about some strange circumstances that her fiance also relayed to police.

We learned that Rachel, who had been self-letting her apartment, had just moved back in, as Kim mentioned, but that neighbors had actually called the apartment office saying that there was a commotion happening at Rachel's apartment. There was yelling and the apartment complex management went over and they did see that. They called police. By the time police got there, all was quiet. We also know that the locks were changed. And this is after Rachel says that someone came into her apartment, looked at her while she was in her bed, and then left. She actually told that to her fiance. And I believe she also told that to her parents as well. So she had changed the lock and

all of this in the days leading up to when she was shot and killed. Hold on just a moment though, Ashley Holden, the ruckus that people heard, was that before she moved in or after she moved in and the tenants had moved out? It was in the days as she was moving in. And Kim can probably give you the exact date when all of this happened. But I know that apartment management, they cited the day as May 31st. And they actually saw a man leaving her apartment. There was yelling. There were multiple people in Rachel's apartment at that time. What about it, Kim Hansen? Was the commotion during the time she moved in or before she had already moved in? There was a lot of commotion. It was all before Rachel had moved in. She did not set foot in the apartment until Thursday, which was, I believe,

June 2nd. The other people that had subleased from her were moving out during that week before Rachel got the keys and was moving back into the apartment. A desperate family begging for answers in the senseless and cowardly murder of their daughter. Rachel Hansen is well known in the Gilbert community as a bonafide horse whisperer. At 14, Rachel is teaching younger children to ride and breaking yearlings. Rachel has a way with other animals, too, bringing home every stray dog she comes across. Rachel is a great student, the only girl on the football team, and a star soccer player. Rachel is so accomplished,

she graduates high school early at just 16 years old. Well, she goes straight into taking her love for animals and turning it into a business at 19. Listen. Rachel continues to flourish after graduation. Rachel runs a busy horse training business, AZ Hanson Horses, finding and breaking wild horses for clients. Rachel also makes a deal with a ranch owner in Queens Creek to live and work on the property as a trainer. At the onset of the pandemic, Rachel also commits herself to running a dog rescue. With her family's help, they find homes for over 200 dogs. In all her free time, Rachel studies to earn her real estate license and has also found love, engaged to Mary. I've just got to ask you, Kim, who do you think

would have done this? And I want to be very clear that the commotion, the ruckus, a tenant boyfriend had been selling marijuana out of the apartment. That bunch was evicted. And then Rachel moves back in. None of that had anything to do with her. But it concerns me in this way, Kim, if any of those people or people connected to them came back into the apartment because the neighbors didn't know she had moved in. They didn't know Rachel was now the tenant. I wonder if other people went back to that apartment, not realizing she was the one living there. That is a very real possibility. And something that Ashley referenced was on Thursday night, her first night in the apartment, there was an intruder that had a key

that came in and looked over her as she was sleeping. And she said she thought it was somebody that was involved with the people that were subleasing and saw that it was not those people and left. And that is why she said she hadn't called the police. Well, we know this. We know it wasn't a suicide. We know it wasn't the fiance. And Justin Yentes joining us, a renowned investigator on this case. Justin, it was at night. She was shot in the wee morning hours. And even if the prior tenants had been cleared, what about their dope clients and others?

There was a ruckus there, a big fight just before she moved in. Somebody obviously had a key, could have come in in the dark and taken a shot, not realizing it was Rachel. Exactly. Exactly. And that's one of the that's one of the theories that we've been working with as well. With me, Dr. Brie Pelleggi, board certified forensic psychologist at VeritasForensicPsychology.com. Dr. Brie, we immediately have to look at the love interest, the fiance. OK, he's ruled out his father at home with the fiance. She's living by herself. And we know that there have been problems with the previous tenants that were just evicted. In fact, one of them was selling dope. What do you think? How do you analyze random shooters? I definitely think that this case appears

to have been a targeted attack. However, I don't think Rachel was the intended victim. She's a low-risk victim. This didn't appear to be a personal attack. The individual that came into our apartment the day before had keys, brought food. It was dark. The person couldn't see. There's nothing about it that looked like it was intended specifically for her. So it's mistaken identity as to the target. In the dark, 2.30 in the morning after the fiance had left. That may explain why we're not getting a match on the fingerprints of the people that lived there before. This could have been someone that was coming after them. And they had a track record. Cops had been called to the apartment several times before Rachel moved in. There is a very

important fact, and that is the family's GoFundMe. Listen. Gilbert PD and the Hanson family is working with Silent Witness to collect tips and offer a reward for information in Rachel Hansen's murder. Tips can be submitted online at silentwitness.org or call 480-WITNESS, 4-A-0-W-I-T-N-E-S-S. The reward for information leading to an arrest is up to $15,000 thanks to donations made through the family's GoFundMe help the Hansen solve Rachel's case? The GoFundMe helping to raise money for the reward that is now up to $15,000. Ashley Holden joining us, investigative reporter, ABC 15 Phoenix. Ashley, where does the case stand now? Well, in every page of that police report that we read, it says inactive. And in that police report, it says that as of February, police

exhausted all of their leads. And then they took this case to Silent Witness, which is a nonprofit organization here in the Valley that helps to gather tips for police. Now, when we have reached out to Gilbert Police, they still call this an active homicide investigation, which is why they are being pretty tight to the chest with the details that they tell us. And I know that the Hansons really have told us repeatedly they feel like someone out there knows something. A $15,000 reward. The tip line is 480-948-6377. Repeat 480-948-6377. Repeat, 480-948-6377. Kim Hansen is with us, Rachel's mom. Ms. Hansen, we cannot let this case go unsolved. What is your message tonight, Ms. Hansen?

My message is just to anybody out there that might have heard or seen or know anything or overheard a conversation. Just please share any information with the silent witness number. We do truly believe that someone out there knows something. We do not believe this was a random act of violence, that it was a planned murder. If you have information, please help us solve this case. 480-948-6377. There is a $15,000 reward. Nancy Grace signing off. Goodbye, friend.