Crime Weekly - S3 Ep145: Letecia Stauch Murder Conviction Overturned!

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

On April 2, 2026, the Colorado Court of Appeals reversed the conviction of  Letecia Stauch and ordered a retrial after finding that a biased juror had been improperly allowed to deliberate. Letecia was originally convicted in 2023 of the murder of her 11-year-old stepson Gannon and was sentenced to life in prison. Try our coffee! - www.CriminalCoffeeCo.comBecome a Patreon member -- > https://www.patreon.com/CrimeWeeklyShop for your Crime Weekly gear here --> https://crimeweeklypodcast.com/shopYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CrimeWeeklyPodcastWebsite: CrimeWeeklyPodcast.comInstagram: @CrimeWeeklyPodTwitter: @CrimeWeeklyPodFacebook: @CrimeWeeklyPodADS:1. https://www.ShopFlamingo.com/CrimeWeekly - Get the Flamingo Starter Set for ONLY $7!2. https://www.RocketMoney.com/CrimeWeekly - Reach your financial goals, cancel unwanted subscriptions, and more!

Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Crime Weekly News. I'm Derek Levasse. And I'm Stephanie Harlow. And tonight, we're going to be talking about a case that a lot of people thought were, was already settled. In 2020, 11-year-old Gannon Stouk was reported missing out of Colorado Springs. What followed was a nationwide search, a disturbing investigation, and ultimately the conviction of his stepmother, Letitia Stouk, for his murder. She was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. But now, in a surprising turn, that conviction has been overturned.

sending the case back into the spotlight and raising new questions about what happens next. So today we're going to be breaking down what led to this decision, what it means legally and where the case stands now. Now, I have to be honest, Stephanie, and we talked about this very little before we started, but I was not familiar with this case at all. You've referenced it a couple times in some of our Crime Weekly episodes, but I'd be lying to you guys if I said I was familiar with this case. So I'm going to be learning about it just as some of you guys are as well.

well, as Stephanie kind of breaks down, just an overview of it because I know very little about this case, but I know you guys were going crazy for it on social media. Yeah, I covered this case extensively as it was happening. It was one of those cases that, as it was kind of unfolding, I saw it and I was like, there's something not right about this. Okay? It's kind of like a case that I just saw pop up today where they said this, this American woman was in the Bahamas with her husband and they were out on a boat together alone. And then he said, he came back alone on the boat and said she fell off the boat, but she had the key to the boat in her pocket when she fell off the boat. And then a current

just took her away as soon as she fell off the boat. And so it took him a really long time to get back to shore because he had to basically row the boat because he doesn't have to get, like, as soon as I heard that, I was like, there's something not right about this case. And that's what, that's what Gannon's case was for me. And so I covered it. And you said you covered this on your channel? Yep, back in 2020. Okay. So, guys. So, can go check that out. Maybe it's something we cover as well, but obviously, you know, I've covered this case extensively. Okay. So, yes. Yeah, you've definitely met, the name I only knew it because of you. I hate this woman. I hate this woman, Letitia's down. Tell me how you really feel.

She is the devil incarnate. She is the absolute worst person. You would not believe the things that she did. So let's just go over this quickly because Derek, you're not familiar with it. Not at all. Not at all. I've seen a couple things online. I heard Ganon's name. obviously, but as far as the details, I'm in the blind right now. Yeah, and maybe some other people aren't familiar with it as well, so we could use a refresh. So the Gannon Stout case, it starts like a lot of cases do. Ordinary, quiet, a normal family, nothing that would make you look twice. And then Gannon Stalk is home in Colorado Springs on January 26, 2020.

He's 11 years old. He's a kid who loved video games. He had a routine. He had a life that made sense. sense, he was with his stepmother, Letitia Stalk. His father was out of town for a work trip. And sometime between that afternoon and the next morning, something happened inside that house because Gannon was never seen alive again. So January 27th, 2020, this is, you know, after Gannon is last seen alive, Letitia calls 911. She says, Gannon's missing. At first, it feels like

every parent's worst nightmare. Maybe he wandered off. Maybe someone took him. Law enforcement responded quickly, community mobilized, people searched, share his photo, hold on to hope, but almost immediately things did not feel right. So Letitia starts talking, as they do, as Chris Watts did, as they always do, and the story starts changing. Gannon was hurt, maybe he was burned in a candle accident. No, actually, he left the house. No, someone actually broke in and took him. And each version that she told of the story, it didn't just shift. It contradicted everything she'd said prior. And then investigators found something that didn't fit any version of her story, which was blood inside Gannon's bedroom, not a small amount, not something easily explained away. And then there's

surveillance footage. So the cameras show Letitia leaving the house with Gannon. He seems to be alive. And then she came back alone. And at that moment, the case changed. This wasn't a search anymore, it became something else entirely. As investigators dug deeper, more evidence surfaced, signs of cleanup, you know, buying cleaning products, inconsistencies, behavior that didn't line up with a parent searching for a missing child. Law enforcement then named Letitia as a person of interest. And then the question became not where is Gannon, but what happened to him? Who's responsible? Basically, what did Letitia Stouk do to him? So then we go and fast forward to March of 2020. More than a month later, Letitia Stalk was arrested, not in Colorado, but in South Carolina,

after traveling across the country. She was charged with murder, child abuse resulting in death, in tampering with the body. And at that point, investigators were obviously no longer looking for Gannon alive. They're trying to build a case for his murder. Now, later that month, Gannon's body was found in Florida, hundreds of miles away from home. The details are absolutely devastating. He was shoved in a suitcase, basically thrown over a bridge. This obviously wasn't an accident. This obviously wasn't a moment of panic. It was planned, prolonged, violent, intentional. So then the case moves forward to trial. And Letitia's defense, I guess, starts to take shape. She ends up pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. Her attorneys argue that she wasn't in control.

She was suffering from severe mental illness, possibly even dissociation. So now the case splits in two different directions. What happened to Gannon and what apparently was happening inside Letitia's mind. The trial, it happens in April of 2023. I believe the jury hears everything that the prosecution and law enforcement know, the evidence from the home, the movement across state lines, the lies, the contradictions, the behavior, Letitia's crazy-ass behavior. she's in jail writing letters to the judge, these drawn out letters where she's like, I'm a patriot

and I'm being framed and they're poisoning my food and jail and all this stuff. And then you hear the defense's argument, right? Leticia wasn't mentally responsible for what she did. So they're not denying that she did something, but they're saying she was just severely mentally ill. And the verdict came, I believe, first week of May, 23, jury made a decision. decision. They rejected the insanity defense completely. They found her guilty on every count. And like you said, for a moment, it feels like the case has reached its end because the person responsible is in custody. She's been found guilty by a jury of her peers. She's sentenced to

life in prison without parole, no chance of release, no second chance for many people, especially Gannon's family, his mother, his father, his sister, the people that loved him, that was as close to justice as they were going to come. They couldn't get him back. And before you go forward, I mean, just based on the synopsis you've given us, it seems like, I have to say it, but a slam dunk. Yeah. Like, it seems pretty obvious. She was with him when she left. She comes back without him. He's found later, you know, one plus one equals two, right? And especially because she's lying about it, and you have to ask yourself if there was something more to the story that she wasn't involved in, there's another player in the game. I mean, she brought in multiple players. That, that, that,

were obviously proven. She said some guy came in and sexually assaulted her in the basement and then took Gannon. She had. And then her and Gannon were driving. No, she didn't. And then her and Gannon were driving in the car and this guy ran in front of the car and made her stop so they could steal Gannon out of the car. As soon as she would realize what the police had found, which is like, okay, we have

surveillance footage and we didn't see anybody going to the house. She was like, well, it happened after we left the house, actually. That's a problem. If that's the case, you just say that up front. You want to find Gannon as much as anybody else. You tell them the truth and you allow investigators to use the actual truthful evidence, the specifics, to try to find Gannon as soon as possible. The fact that you tried initially to give a completely different story,

how are we supposed to believe anything you say from that point forward? This wasn't just, oh, I accidentally killed him and I'm trying to cover it up. There was, he was horribly brutalized. He died of a gunshot wound, multiple skulls, fractures. Prosecutors said that Letitia had shot and also stabbed Gannon. This was just, I don't, I mean, once again, her defense team is like she's mentally ill. She was suffering from a major psychotic break. And based on what happened to Gannon, you'd almost prefer to believe that because you have to wonder how a sane woman who's a mother herself, that's her stepson. So that she's not,

you know, technically related to Gannon by Blanche. but she's raising him. But she's also a mother herself to a daughter that is her blood that she did raise. And she stabbed Gannon 18 times. She hit him four times in the head. She shot him three times and then shoved his body into a suitcase. Yeah, like I said, it's almost like I wish that she was going through a severe mental break because how could any sane person do this? The judge in the case. I believe his name is Gregory Warner or Warner. He actually said that this case and Letitia's actions were the most horrific he had ever seen. He gave her two life sentences without parole, plus 12 years for tampering with a body charge, 18 months for tampering without evidence charge.

It was just absolutely one of the worst cases I have ever seen. And now we get here to 2026, and it's like, we shouldn't even be hearing this woman's name anymore. She should just be put in prison. The cell doors close. Die in prison. I never want to hear your name or see your stupid face ever again. And of course, she pops back up because the legal system, the legal system that we have. So let's take a quick break.

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I'll take it. You know, that's what it is. She's behind bars. Life in prison without parole. Justice served, let's move on. And now when I hear that everything that I saw online and the frustration from a lot of you guys, now I understand. Because real quickly, when I talked to you about this over the weekend, when I told you because you were away this weekend, you had things going on, was that the first time you had heard about it?

or because your reaction was pretty visceral, but I didn't know if it was just a reaction. Yeah, it was the first time I heard about it, but then after you told me about it, I went on Instagram and I saw all the messages. People had been, yeah, so what was my reaction? I literally was like, Stephanie, and I didn't even pronounce her name right.

I was like, yeah, that girl, Latisha, Letitia Stowich, and you're like, you're like, Latisha Stouk? And I was like, yeah, and you like, are you kidding me? And you started, I could tell you were like searching as you were talking to me. And you were like, which is a rarity, you were speechless.

you were like, are you kidding me? And I ruined your night essentially. I think I said more like, are you effing kidding me? That was, yeah. I was actually livid. I was like, I was thinking like, is he getting bad information? There's no possible way. There's no possible way.

Yeah, people are talking about this one that she got off or it's going to be a new trial and you're like, no, no, no, no, no. I was like, yeah, that's it. Yeah. Well, here, let's figure out what it's about. Because once again, it's some stupid bullshit that that. like, why do the worst people always get all of these chances to continue torturing us? That's our justice system, baby. Like Elizabeth Smart said, we don't have a justice system.

We have a legal system. The offenders have more rights than the victims. The victims are no longer here. So F them, right? Who cares about them? So the Colorado Court of Appeals has overturned the first-degree murder conviction of Letitia Stouk due to a procedural error. let's burn it all down. So the ruling said the court may have denied Letitia an impartial jury when it allowed a juror to remain after being challenged for a potential bias.

First of all, there was not going to be a person in this country who could sit on that jury and be impartial. Because what she did to that little boy, if you can be impartial about that and not just be absolutely outraged, disgusted and want to see her. face the electric chair for it, then I don't know what kind of person you are. But there's really, in cases like this, when it's so cut and dry, as you said, it's not like a Casey Anthony where, you know, I think she's guilty, but where there's just really, you know, she's denying it still, Leticia admitted to it. But then her defense said she had a mental break. So what kind of person can sit on a jury like that here, the things that she did to that 11-year-old boy and be impartial? I don't know. But basically, Colorado law allows for a challenge of a juror who may have a, quote, relationship within the third degree by blood, adoption, or marriage to a defendant or to any attorney of record or attorney engaged in the trial of the case, end quote.

So in the written opinion, Judge Neti Pawar said the trial court ruling didn't stand because one of the jurors involved in deliberations was potentially biased. Okay, so the juror in question said his son-in-law worked as a deputy district attorney in the fourth judicial district attorney's office in El Paso County, which is the county that prosecuted the case, according to the ruling, the juror should have been dismissed automatically because of their relationship to the district attorney's office. This judge, Pawar wrote, to preserve the appearance, if not the reality of fairness in a criminal prosecution and public trust and confidence in the criminal justice system. That's a funny way to put it, by the way. This judge says to preserve the appearance, if not the reality of fairness in a criminal prosecution. What? This is for show, basically. Yeah, basically.

And trust me, I don't think you're gaining any public trust and confidence when a woman like this who everybody unilaterally hates and thinks belongs in prison. when a woman like that is all of a sudden like, oh, yeah, let's overturn her conviction because a juror happened to have a relative who happened to work as a deputy district attorney in El Paso County. Because that doesn't change the evidence. That doesn't change anything. And this is this is grasping at straws. Yeah, it takes more than one juror, by the way, to find somebody to be guilty of murder. For me, it's so much bigger than just this. case, I have always felt like when it comes to, you want an impartial trial, you want everyone to get a

fair shake, but there's such a lack of consideration for the victim's families, because this is something that doesn't only impact Gannon, even though he's no longer with us, but it affects everybody who cared about him. This is something that was probably the worst time in their lives, and now they have to relive it. So we're so concerned about Letitia. and in fairness to her. I'm saying this sarcastically. And there's very little consideration given to the people who have been impacted by this tragedy and now have to experience it all over again being retramatized.

And so there just seems to be no common sense when it comes to our judicial system, right? Like you have to look at the case itself and the judge should say, and again, I know there's there's laws to this, there's statutes to it, right? There's minimum operating procedures they have to follow. But to me, common sense would prevail here and say, listen, yes, there was someone that was on it who may have had a pre-existing, you know, thought about this. But at the same time, based on the overwhelming evidence, we don't think it would have changed the outcome. As the judge, I don't believe it would change the outcome. Everybody had a pre-this happened in Colorado and the trial happened in Colorado.

Every single person. I mean, this stupid woman was good. Going on the news, giving interviews that made her, you know, just like Chris Watts, territory, giving interviews that every single person with two brains else to rub together was like, there's something going on here. Every person in the country, much less Colorado, had a preconceived notion. Now, here's what pisses me off because the judge, Gregory Warner, I give him huge props because he had to sit there and preside over this case, which was terrible. And he told Letitia basically like, you're the worst person ever, you suck. And I hope you never see the light of day again. But Letitia's attorney challenged the juror to the judge during the initial trial.

And Judge Werner did not dismiss that juror. And we can see a transcript from the court. Yeah. That was the judge's decision. Right. So now it's almost like it's almost like her attorneys are saying like, well, you should have known this was going to happen. You should have known we were going to appeal because we challenged this juror and you said you didn't think this was an issue. In fact, Judge Werner said, quote, I don't think it's a statutory cause and I didn't hear anything else about that fact creating an issue or conflict or something else.

And so basically Letitia's attorneys are like, hey, it doesn't matter what you think. The case law is very clear. No family member of the district attorney's office can serve on a jury. and in this case, it's the father-in-law of one of the jurors. This is a misstep in judgment by the judge initially. He should have dismissed this juror, and we wouldn't be here right now. But again, now because of this judge's incompetence. I don't think it was his incompetence.

Leticia and her legal team were constantly doing this. Yeah, but he should have dismissed them initially. Yeah, I mean, I think at that point, he was like, I'm sick of your bullshit. Let's do this trial thing, right? I mean, I get it. I get it. We still have more to talk about. I want to get into it because it's a bigger picture, right?

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So we're back. Now, remember that this goes to a higher court. body and then they they have agreed that the judge should have dismissed. Judge Warner should have dismissed the juror. Shocker. Shocker. One judge, though, argued that Letitia Stalk waived her right to appeal the juror's bias. So this shouldn't even really be like kind of an issue that's on the table because attorneys

can challenge jurors for cause. But the dissenting appellate judge argued that Letitia's attorneys waived the right to dismiss the juror. So according to the ruling, attorneys had 16 discretionary challenges. Stouk's legal team dismissed seven jurors and had previously challenged the judge for cause that the judge did not dismiss. There were nine other jurors dismissed under the preemptory challenge. So basically remember, Latisha's legal team is doing the very most. But this juror was not dismissed in that process.

So therefore, this dissenting judge is arguing that Letitia's legal team waived the right to appeal because they could have dismissed him anyways. They didn't have to wait for the judge to do it, and they didn't. So I don't know, but what's going to happen now is more important. And this is kind of frustrating because we kind of went over this with the Adnan Saeed case, remember where we were like, what does it mean if the guilty verdict is basically overturned now? What does that mean and what could possibly happen? And we kind of went over those options where it was like, well, they can basically let her go or have another trial, which is ludicrous, right? That you'd have to have another trial or your only other option is pretty much like let her go. Because they can't keep her in prison, right, if her murder conviction's been overturned.

Yeah. She's an innocent woman at this point. Exactly. Which is crazy. It's pissing me off so much. So now they're saying, okay, well, basically what we're going to do is we're going to talk to the district attorney's office and then we're going to put together another trial if that's what we decide to do. So what does that even mean? What does that even mean?

So you might not decide to do another trial? Can you imagine the uproar? I don't understand. There's no way this woman walks. I'm telling you right now. There's no way. they're saying Letitia Stalk, thank God, is going to remain in prison as the whole process gets underway.

She should. To determine if the Colorado Supreme Court will hear the case. The Supreme Court upholds the appeals court ruling. So basically, I wonder if it can go to Supreme Court and then Supreme Court can say, hey, we don't agree with the appeals court. Like, this is pretty ridiculous. It goes back down. Hopefully, that is what will happen.

Usually these upper courts will help. correct a wrongdoing at the lower court because they're going to look at it from a more over an overview and they're going to say are you kidding me if the supreme court upholds the appeals court ruling i'm going to be blown away i'm going to be going to colorado springs are we protesting i feel like we should that's what i was just thinking how did you know that's what i was thinking like i was thinking how quick can i book a ticket to colorado i got to go just to make sure you don't get arrested. I will rain hell down on these people. Stephanie's in the street. Hand cuff to a trash can. Handcuffed to a trash can. Absolutely not. I'm going to hand cuff myself to a

Supreme Court judge. Oh my God. Yeah, I definitely have to go. And stare at him or her in the face and talk about the details of Gannon's case nonstop. Like that annoying Patrick Swayze goes when he was haunting Whoopi Goldberg's character and he just wouldn't let her sleep. I will nonstop harass these people. But if the Supreme Court does uphold the appeals court ruling, Letitia Stock will be removed from prison. She'll be set back to the El Paso County Jail. And they will put the public in Gannon's family through another new trial that will cost taxpayers.

Millions. Money that doesn't need to be spent. But yes. Not millions, maybe hundreds of thousands, but a lot of money. Okay, appeals court. We're doing it because we want to keep the. trust of the public. The public does not want this. Yeah, because we always do everything above standard. We always want to make sure that we get it right. If you took a poll of the people in Colorado and you were

like, hey, guys, now one of the jurors was the father-in-law of a man that worked at the district attorney's office, do you guys mind if we just kind of overlook it considering how guilty this woman is and what a terrible thing, horrible, violent thing she did to an 11-year-old boy who couldn't have possibly done anything to deserve it? Like, are you guys okay with that? Will we retain the public trust if we just, you know, don't care about this? Every single person in Colorado would have been like, yes, lock her away, throw away the key. We don't care.

It was one juror member. Enough is enough. So that's where we stand here. I really hope the Supreme Court gets this right and says, listen, whatever technicality they have to go off of I'm fine with, listen, I'm not. smart enough to know all the statutes or how they can angle this where it's like, well, because of the statute, we don't have to give her a reach out, whatever it might be. But you have an ability to do it.

Make sure it's by the law. I understand there is a bigger picture here. We want to make sure moving forward that everyone, regardless of how obvious the evidence may be, gets a fair trial. I understand that premise and I agree with it. And it's as important to find the innocent, innocent as it is to find those guilty. guilty. So from a bigger macro level, I understand it and respect it because, let's face it, there are a lot of people who are on trial for crimes they didn't commit. So I understand the

standard that in the precedent you're trying to set, this is not the case to make that example. This is not that case. Just based on the minimal information that you've divulged to us today, this is not the one to hang your hat on and make an example out of. I'm saying, okay, if you kill an 11-year-old child and then get up in the the court and you're like, I did it. I stabbed him. I shot him. I hit him in the head. But I was having a slight mental break at the time. Yeah. And I don't even think you deserve a trial at that point, personally for me. That's it. Personally for me, let's go back to the days of just executing people in the public square. You don't deserve a trial, Letitia Stouk. You don't deserve to walk this earth.

I may need to hear more about this case. We may have to cover it. Maybe. Maybe it's something with if there, let's hope there isn't a new trial. But if there is, maybe this is something we cover here where we get into the details and maybe, maybe there's something in there. Let us know in the comment section of this video. If you'd like to see a deep dive, a crime weekly deep dive into Gannon Stalk's case. Yeah. And real quickly, I'm going to take two seconds, but speaking of judges, have you seen this thing out of Harris County with Judge Nathan? I want to make sure I get his name right because he's an idiot. Nathan Milleron, have you seen this yet? No. So anybody who hasn't watched it?

I'll play the video right here real quickly. And then Stephanie, you have to see this. It's incredible. It's about 30 seconds. Of course you don't. And you're just joined from the audio here, right? Yeah, it should be. You see.

Sorry. Moriah, did I make this up? Five seconds. One second. You have to go for. You're just joined. Okay. Yeah, you're good.

Okay. False alarm. No, it wasn't a false alarm. False negative. Sorry. Don't choke around. I'm serious about this. It was happening.

I can't. I understand. I'm just saying. We're good. Thank you. Get out in my cool room. Find your supervisor. Jesus Christ. Sick and tired of this. And listen, I've had a lot of experiences with judges, and I will tell you firsthand,

there are some judges who are absolutely awesome people that you go out, have dinner and a drink with, and they treat their job with the respect it needs to be. They understand their position, but they're also very fair, and they don't have this God complex like Nathan does. In fact, for anybody, there was an update on this. There's a Harris County lawyer who wrote him in email. I saw that. And basically was like, hey, listen, you know, you need to apologize to this guy.

That is completely unacceptable. And Nathan's response was, I want you to appear before me in court to answer for what you said. And basically, they're like, F you, we're not going nowhere. It's not a lawful order. You can't just tell people to show up to your court because we don't agree with you. So that's not going anywhere. I felt so bad for this IT guy too because he's clear.

Clearly, by the way, the judge was just an idiot who didn't know who's doing. And then when he got when that like obviously was illustrated and the guy tries to laugh it off. He's not like, you dumbass, you know, like I would have felt like saying like, you dumbass. The guy's like, ha, like he's laughing it off and trying to make it light so that we're not drawing attention to the judge's incompetence with technology. And the judge is mad and he's like, don't you laugh? and just, oh, so gross, so disgusting. Where's a supervisor? You look at someone like that and you're like, is this guy who clearly has no patience,

who has an enormous ego, who has no humility? We want him making the calls. Bingo. That's not somebody who just has, will hold a grudge from somebody who's helping him and berate him publicly because he feels embarrassed for a second. Like what kind of frail baby bitch, bullshit that these sometimes these men do. What is that?

You got to stop. And by the way, not only men. I've had some women judges as well. Just complete jerks. And I'm being, I don't want to get demonetized. So I'm going, I'm treading lightly here as far as my.

So I didn't mean just men when I said, when I say the baby bitch bullshit thing, women will do it in like a different way I've seen. But this like, like stomping my feet and being like, I'm embarrassed. so I need to make everybody else, like, suffer for this. Like, that's a weird thing.

No, but you nailed it. It's overall, the best way to sum this up is temperament. Is this the temperament that you want from a person who is deciding whether someone is guilty or innocent or whether a traffic infraction or a civil infraction is something worth, you know, ruining their lives over? Like you want someone who is, like you said, has humility, has an ability to empathize or sympathize with a person there still be objective, still hold people accountable,

but also a temperament that is above the standard approach, right? He's supposed to represent the best of us. When you watch that video, does that represent the best of us? No, he's clearly triggered, and so he's taking it out on someone else. Exactly. Which is not what you want to see in a judge. No, absolutely not. So I don't want to make it a big deal.

It's not enough for a whole Crime Weekly News, but when we're talking about judges and how they impact families and also the community, just another classic example of it. I have a, you know, there are some good judges, but I have a major issue with the level of protection that judges have and what they can say and do and get away with it because they have this wall up in front of them.

But overall, like Stephanie said, let us know what you think about Letitia's case. If it's something you want us to cover, we've been trying to go with more obscure cases that we feel like you guys really like that. I hate to use the word like, but it seems like that's something that more that you're geared toward right now. and so we're planning on continuing down that road,

but depending on how this all plays out, maybe it's something we cover where for anybody who's not familiar with it, we'll do a deep dive on the case. But anything else, any final words from you? No, yeah, please let me know in the comments because I can start putting a series together. We're in the middle of a really good series now, but yeah. Yeah, it's a crazy one.

Thank you for all the responses on this, both on audio and video with Tomliss case. I can tell. I didn't realize how, big of a case this was and how many people have strong opinions on it. So we'll be back later this week with part two of this series. And we have a lot more to cover. So if you're not already watching or listening to that series, make sure you go listen or watch part one. This is a fascinating case and the investigation into it is very questionable. So stay tuned for that. We will be back

later this week. Until then, everyone stay safe out there. We'll see you soon.