Crime Weekly - S3 Ep295: Crime Weekly News: Taylor Schabusiness Attacks Another Lawyer on Video!
Episode Date: April 23, 2025Convicted murderer Taylor Schabusiness, serving a life sentence for the brutal 2022 killing of Shad Thyrion, made headlines once more by attacking her attorney during a preliminary hearing on April 4,... 2025. This marks the second time Schabusiness has assaulted her legal counsel in court. In this episode, we delve into the shocking details of the courtroom outburst, explore her history of violent behavior, and discuss the implications for her ongoing legal proceedings. Don't miss this deep dive into a case that continues to captivate and horrify the nation. We're coming to CrimeCon Denver! Use our code CRIMEWEEKLY for 10% off your tickets! https://www.crimecon.com/CC25 Try our coffee!! - www.CriminalCoffeeCo.com Become a Patreon member -- > https://www.patreon.com/CrimeWeekly Shop for your Crime Weekly gear here --> https://crimeweeklypodcast.com/shop Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CrimeWeeklyPodcast Website: CrimeWeeklyPodcast.com Instagram: @CrimeWeeklyPod Twitter: @CrimeWeeklyPod Facebook: @CrimeWeeklyPod
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McCrispy strips at McDonald's. Hey everyone, welcome back to Crime Weekly News. I'm Derek Levasseur.
I'm Stephanie Harlow.
And we're going to be talking about a familiar name to some of you, Taylor Shabiznis. She's
back in the news again, not for good reasons, and something that's going to sound eerily similar to
what we've discussed in the past. But just a quick recap in case you're not familiar with Taylor Shabizness.
She's a 27-year-old woman out of Wisconsin. She was convicted for the brutal murder and
dismemberment of her boyfriend, Shad Therion, in February of 2022. This case drew national
attention not only because of the gruesome nature of the murder itself, but also due to the
subsequent courtroom incidents that followed. We discussed Taylor should business on crime weekly. I don't know. I think we did like a,
what did we do? Two or three part series on that? Yeah. I think, yeah. It's every time I hear you
say Taylor should business, I have to like, it makes me laugh because I know it's not her real
name. I know it's just like a random weird name she picked and chose and then changed her name to it. This woman is – I don't know.
I don't know.
Like she keeps – they keep saying she's competent to stand trial, which means she's
– but also they said Lori Vallow is competent to stand trial.
So like what does it take to be competent these days?
Now, she's clearly out of her mind, Taylor Shabizness and Lori Vallow, but we're talking
about Taylor, clearly out of her mind, Taylor Shabizness and Lori Velo, but we're talking about Taylor, clearly out of her mind.
And we can't even just blame it on the drug use anymore because she's been behind bars.
And she continues taking part in these weird attacks on the people who are like there to help her.
So we don't need to talk about what happened to Shad.
It was horrible.
She dismembered him. She assaulted his corpse afterwards. It just, this woman's crazy. If you have not seen the
series and you have the stomach for it, go check it out. We have some police body cam footage in
there. Essentially, Shad's mother found his head in a bucket. And like Stephanie said,
there was a lot of things that transpired before, during, and after this dismemberment.
Taylor's a sick person. We'll just put it that way. She's a crazy case. And the way she was
caught, there's video of that as well, how they went to her apartment, still had blood on her.
It's an interesting case. She came out to talk to the cops and she's like, I don't know what
you're talking about. And then when she finally admitted what she did, she just was giving all
this grotesque detail. I think she was a huge Ted Bundy fan, if I'm correct. Was it Ted Bundy or some other serial killer that she followed? Her father
had charges for assaulting an underage girl. You could tell that she was involved in drugs.
So you could tell that obviously she wasn't raised in the best circumstances. Drug use did not
help with what ended up happening, the reason she was arrested. But like I said, it's been a few years now.
She's been behind bars.
The drugs should no longer be an issue.
This woman can literally not help herself.
She's not right because she was arrested.
She was charged with first-degree intentional homicide.
She did plead not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect.
But in July of 2023, a jury found her
guilty on all charges, determined she was of sound mind during the crime. And then in September of
2023, she was sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole. Even after
being arrested and during the court proceedings, Taylor still exhibited violent behavior. In
February 2023, she attacked her defense attorney during a motions hearing, and obviously he withdrew from the case.
She also filed an appeal in November of 2024, appealing her conviction for the murder of her boyfriend.
But then she withdrew it in March of 2025, and then she acknowledged the fairness of her trial and conviction. But then in April of 2025, during a
preliminary hearing for her allegedly assaulting a prison guard, which we're going to talk about
that in a minute, she attacked her new attorney. And then she had to be removed from the courtroom.
And then this attorney also withdrew from her case. Yeah. So his reaction is his reaction is
actually hilarious. Well, we're going to watch the video. Yeah. Yeah. if you're on YouTube, we're going to play the video for you now.
It's only about 40 seconds.
If you're not, if you're on audio, take two seconds.
Google search it.
It'll be the first thing that pops up.
But here's the video.
We're asking for a sequestration, but that may be a little funny.
All right.
It is one.
Yes, Your Honor.
All right.
We're off the record. I watched it like I watched like five times I
this is my first viewing of it while she was watching yeah this is my first viewing of it
so first of all she screams something when she gets up to attack him.
Yeah, I have no clue what she says.
It sounds like a battle cry.
I don't.
If anybody knows, tell us in the comments what she said, because I couldn't decipher it.
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It's stunning because she kind of looks at him and you can see that she's like considering
it.
Then she gets up and screams her battle cry, goes at him.
The lawyer obviously initially reacts because it's startling even to the person watching.
It's startling.
And then once they get her on the ground, he kind of just looks at the judge looks around and he's like well yeah it
looked like he looked at the prosecutors was like oh something i said he's like it seems kind of
like he's just used to this behavior like kind of like this is not a huge surprise to him that
taylorship business would randomly in the middle of court not only in front of the judge but in
front of the bailiffs and all of these people who are there to like literally make sure you can't hurt anybody that she would act this way. And he's
just kind of like, yeah, I mean, this is kind of par for the course or yeah, I was expecting
something like this to happen at any time. As we said, Taylor has obviously a history of being
violent, so he does not seem shocked. And obviously i just don't know they're going to give her a new lawyer
i wouldn't take it i wouldn't take this case no i i'm trying to remember because it was a while ago
that we covered it but i want to say we had dr mohandi come on for this case is this the one
that we had him come on because we were talking about competency yeah there was one of the cases
maybe one similar to this but a big discussion that we were having was, is she capable of withstanding a trial, right? Like, and they obviously ruled that she
was, but we were a little surprised by that because when you consider the crime that was
committed and what was done afterwards, and then also these outbursts, at first you could chalk it
up to maybe she's doing it to try to create the illusion that
she's insane. I don't think she can help herself. Yeah. I think she's actually crazy. And I think
this proves it even more. Like she's, she's not all there. I think she's criminally insane,
you know, to the point where it's like, she's not a crazy person, like roaming the subways
of New York city, yelling at people and shaking their fist at ghosts.
She's a dangerous person. So I think that's where it comes into the fact of the matter is,
well, does that person like this belong in a mental health facility? No, because she's dangerous.
You can't fix her. She cannot be fixed. Yeah, Yeah. She's a danger to her, to the society.
She's a danger to the, to be honest, the prisoners as well.
That's where we're headed because now she's in, she's in prison at a correctional facility.
She like fell on a staple or something.
So there was like a staple embedded in her skin.
And so one of the corrections guards walks her down to the nurse's station so that the nurse
can fix this. And these are the same kinds of opportunities she's going to have in a mental
health facility if she was deemed to be like, you know, unable to stand trial because of mental
defect or whatever, she'd go to a mental health facility and she'd be attacking all these people
because they said the complaint states that the nurse got the tray,
started to get the tweezers to take out the staple.
And that is when Taylor Shabiznes lunged at the nurse.
And the corrections officer said that she went and got Taylor down
so the nurse would be able to exit the room.
And the corrections officer said Taylor continued to struggle with the tray
that the nurse had.
And the CEO had said earlier that her head was hit,
but she wasn't concussed. She had bruised ribs, pointed to her arm saying that it hurt. And it
should be noted that the corrections officer was also exposed to the OC spray when Taylor was
sprayed during the altercation. So basically, the nurse offered a similar version. She said she
remembered Taylor was chuckling the whole time.
And the nurse asked Taylor what was so funny. And then Taylor responded, nothing was funny.
And the nurse said she told Taylor that it might hurt a little bit when she's taking the staple out as she went to get the tweezers. And as soon as she made contact with the tweezers on the staple,
Taylor grabbed her arm, pushed the nurse out of the way, then lunged out of the chair.
And the nurse said she heard the tray too. And at that point, she went for help. the nurse out of the way, then lunged out of the chair. And the nurse said she
heard the tray too. And at that point, she went for help. So got out of the room to go for help.
And Taylor attacks the corrections officer. So she's in court in April because she attacked a
corrections officer at the facility she's being kept at. And then she attacks her defense lawyer.
It's almost like Taylor herself
is trying to tell everybody like,
hey, I'm not good.
I'm a bad apple.
Like nothing's good's gonna come from trying to help me
or put me in a place where there's people
who will try to help me.
Basically, this woman's an animal, an animal.
And I don't even believe that animals
deserve to be in cages.
But Taylor's business deserves to be in a cage for the rest of her life, honestly.
She's right where she needs to be.
And I hope that while she's behind bars, she gets the help that she needs because you can tell whatever they're doing right now, it's not working.
And kudos quickly to the court officers, the constables that are there because they acted fast.
And I know we're sitting here laughing about it,
but that could have gone wrong really fast
if they didn't interact or they were not on their game.
She's right there.
She had her hands up.
She could have done some damage.
I think she was handcuffed though.
She's handcuffed, but take her fingers
and shove it into the guy's eye.
It's game over.
He's blind.
I mean, he's a better man than would have been. Cause I would have elbowed
her right in the face as she came for me. I would have been like, boom, bye.
Yeah. No, I mean, it's the, the quick, the quick actions of the constables, definitely
the court officers definitely ensured that nobody was hurt. I don't know if Taylor was hurt. I look
like she almost bounced her head off the table when she went down. I don't know, you know, what exactly happened there.
She might've been injured and that's why they took her out the way they did.
I don't know, but it's unfortunate because yeah, she's where she needs to be.
The real victim here is not Taylor.
It's obviously Shad, but you would hope that whatever underlying condition this woman has,
is she going to get out one day?
Of course not, but at least treat her in
a way where she can live a somewhat normal life behind bars for whatever amount of time she has
left on this earth. Maybe she's got quite a bit of time left. She's pretty young. That's it. She's
young. She's 27 years older, or she was 27 at the time. I don't know how you fix this. I think she's
older now, but she's going to be there for a while. She's a danger to the other prisoners.
She's a danger to herself, and she's also a to be there for a while. She's a danger to the other prisoners. She's a danger to herself.
And she's also a danger to the correctional officers.
She's a danger to every single living person around her.
And apparently, because we know what she did to Shad, she's a danger to every dead person around her.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's.
She's not.
She's bad news, man.
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I don't feel bad for her.
I'm not like, oh, I hope that she has a good life with whatever.
No, I don't.
I don't hope she has a good life.
I'm sorry.
She's a horrible
person and the what she did to that man in his own home that his mother had to find his head like
that i hope she had i hope she has a miserable rest of her life and i hope that they keep her
in um what is it called when you're kept away from everybody solitary i hope they keep her in
solitary 24 7 for the rest of her life and all she sees is the small four walls around her
for the rest of her life. And there's never anybody in her periphery that she can hurt again,
honestly. I hope she has a miserable life. And that's that on that.
Yeah, I think we all agree on that. Shad's getting the justice he deserved. His offender is never
going to see the light of day again. Obviously, Shad's family, though, has to keep reliving these things as they see her in the news. And I'm sure it's not easy for them to
watch these videos and think that this is the person who did what she did to their son. So
thinking of them right now, I'm sure if they had it their way, they would just love for her to go
away and never hear or see her again. I'm sure that's what I would want. I wouldn't want to see
them in the news or on my TikTok feed or whatever it might be because right now this is everywhere.
I mean, honestly, if it was a different state, this would have been a death penalty case. And
honestly, if any case should be, this should be it because this person does not get better.
Yeah. There's no way she's getting out. There's no way she's getting out. So
I know different people have different opinions on this, but yeah, I'm
kind of in agreeance with you there. It's, she's not, she's never going to be out again. And it's
clear that she killed Shad. So what do we always say? You know, eye for an eye. It's clear. It's
indisputable. The evidence is there. Yeah. After appeal, she withdrew her appeal and she's like,
all right, you guys got me. You're fair. It's good. She's basically saying like,
even when she didn't appeal and tried to say that the trial wasn't fair, you know,
then she withdrew it. And she's like, yeah, it was fair. Yeah, caught me fair and square,
like caught me red handed essentially. Like, yes, she did this. And not only did she do what she
did, but then she desecrated his body in every single possible way she could and then left
pieces of it for his loved
ones to find. Okay. She should be on death row. She shouldn't be anywhere in the vicinity of
regular people. She's a bane of the existence of the earth. Honestly, she doesn't deserve to be
around other people. Well, like you said, this was a plea slash sentencing hearing for the crime
against the other prisoner. They have to find a different way to maybe through Zoom or something where you
don't want to put her in the presence of other people, attorneys, court officers, the judge.
There's no reason to bring her in. She's clearly a threat to everybody in that room.
So hopefully going forward, they find a new approach to how they handle these things. Yes,
they still got to do it, but the sentencing is almost irrelevant
because she's not going anywhere.
She's serving life in prison for the murder.
But you got to go through the due process.
You have a certain-
Because then if you don't,
they'll use it to another defense attorney.
They'll use it to say she's not being treated fairly
or whatever.
But do we have to bring her into the courtroom?
I don't think so.
I think there's other alternatives that we can do.
If there's an update in this one- If she attacks somebody, if she attacks another one of her defense attorneys, we'll let you know. Yeah, so. I think there's other alternatives that we can do. If there's an update in this one.
If she attacks somebody, if she attacks another one of her defense attorneys, we'll let you know.
Yeah. So like I said earlier, if you want to hear more about Shad's case and how Taylor was involved in that case, you can go over and check out our multiple part series on it. We covered it extensively. We did a deep dive. All the information is there. It's a horrific case. So I warn you now, make sure you're prepared for it because there's definitely some things in there that are tough to consume.
It's worth watching though.
So yeah, so that's going to do it for us. We're going to be back later this week with
Johnny Stompanato part two. So make sure you tune in for that. Audio will be out on Friday.
Video will be out on Sunday. Until then, everyone stay safe out there. We'll see you soon.
Bye.
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