Crime Weekly - S3 Ep333: Baby Emmanuel’s Parents Charged With Murder

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

Jake and Rebecca Haro, the parents of 7-month-old Emmanuel Haro, have been charged with their son’s murder and making a false police report, with each held on $1 million bail. Investigators concluded that Emmanuel was never kidnapped, and cited inconsistencies in the parents’ stories. They now believe the infant is deceased even though his body has not been found. Try our coffee!! - www.CriminalCoffeeCo.com Become a Patreon member -- > https://www.patreon.com/CrimeWeekly Shop for your Crime Weekly gear here --> https://crimeweeklypodcast.com/shop Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CrimeWeeklyPodcast Website: CrimeWeeklyPodcast.com Instagram: @CrimeWeeklyPod Twitter: @CrimeWeeklyPod Facebook: @CrimeWeeklyPod ADS: 1. https://www.TaskRabbit.com - Use code CRIMEWEEKLY to get 15% off your first task!

Hey, everyone back to crime weekly news. And I'm Stephanie Harlow. And today we bring a heartbreaking and disturbing update in the case of seven-month-old Emmanuel Haro. His parents, Jake and Rebecca, have now been charged with felony murder and filing a false police report, as authorities believe their story of abduction was fabricated. Now, while the search for Emmanuel's body continues, the couple remains in custody denying any wrongdoing, even as investigators pieced together a grim and mounting web of evidence.

And this was a case that we covered just last week on Crime Weekly News. It was very fresh. It was very new. And although we had some suspicions and we were pointing out some things in the interview that didn't necessarily sit well with us. We were trying to give the benefit of the doubt because obviously this could have been a very traumatic situation for the Harrow's,

but now right after, basically, right after we finished that episode and it went out, these developments came pretty rapidly and it's unfolding more every day. I see on the news every day there's something new with this case. Yeah, so I want to go through the timeline again quickly. Yes. So this was August 14th, 2025,

when Emmanuel's mother, Rebecca Harrow, reported that she was changing her son's diaper outside a Big Five sporting goods store in Yucaypa. She was attacked by an unknown assailant. Remember, the person walked up behind her, Ola, and then she was rendered in unconscious. And then she woke up, her son Emmanuel was missing. She alleged that he had been kidnapped. Now, in August 15th and 16th, law enforcement launched a missing person investigation. They initiated searches with some scent tracking dogs. We talked about this. No Amber Alert was issued due to the lack of identifiable suspect description or vehicle description.

And then officials did note the inconsistencies in the mother's story. In media interviews, both parents pleaded publicly for Emmanuel's return, their emotional demeanor and the things they were saying and kind of how they were acting did seem off to a lot of people including us. But we did, we did notice that Rebecca Harrow did have a black eye. However, to me, the black eye did not look as if she had just gotten it. It didn't look fresh. Did not look fresh. It looked like it was in a healing stage. All right.

So then August 18th through about the 21st, investigators executed multiple search warrants at the Herald residence in Cabazon and reviewed surveillance footage from locations of interest. Now, the searches kind of went between the Yucaypa and Cabazon areas. Then a child abuse report surfaced in Marino Valley, which was connected to J. Harrow. Authorities do confirm it's related to this ongoing investigation and I talked a little bit about it last time. I didn't go into detail because once again we weren't really sure what was going on. I was, but we had to be careful. I think Derek was too, but we had to be careful. Well, it's crazy because we'll go one way and people like, oh my God, you're convicting these people and they just

went through something crazy and if we don't go hard enough on them, it's like, well, why aren't you questioning them a little bit more? So it's a slippery slope. You lose either way. Yeah, I'm I mean, I just think based on personal preference, it's like, hey, this is a parent as a parent whose child might be missing. I don't want to jump the gun and start accusing, even though my gut is telling me everything's wrong with this. All right. So apparently, Jake Harrow was married previously to another woman, and they had a daughter

together who is now seven years old. When that daughter was just 10 weeks old, this was Jake's own daughter. He had pleaded guilty to child cruelty. She survived. This daughter survived, but I don't know how she did based on what happened to her at the hands of her own father. And like I said, she's currently seven, but she is suffering from lifelong issues. Her adoptive mother, who is a cousin of Jake's ex-wife, she said, quote, they were told, that they didn't think she would even live a week after this happened,

but they have done everything they can for this little girl to keep her going. She can't walk. She can't talk. She's blind. It's just horrible. But she survived. It's amazing that she survived that at 10 weeks old. End quote.

So yes, basically, whatever Jake Harrow, and it looks like his ex-wife was implicated in this as well. So it might be a pattern. Whatever he did to this child landed this 10-week-old. baby. What a scumbag. In a hospital with broken bones in 2018. Yeah. And why, did you, why is knee serving time for this? Riddle me that? I believe that he was on probation for it. Probation. Do you think he was supposed to go to another court date? Wow. Probation. Listen, at the Loma Linda University Medical Center, they found that this little girl had an acute fractured rib, healing fractures of six ribs, a skull fracture, a brain hemorrhage.

swelling of the neck and a healing fractured leg bone. An officer quoted a doctor saying, quote, the combination of the above findings in a pre-mobile infant in the absence of a plausible history of significant trauma to explain the injuries is indicative of abuse, head trauma, child physical abuse, and nutritional neglect, end quote. Now, we also found out that Jake Harrow told police his sister opened his iPad to a web page that read, quote, how to feed a baby with broken ribs. end quote. He denied to the officer that he'd used the iPad at the time of the search, which

occurred before his daughter arrived at the hospital in 2018. So, yeah, Jake Harrow clearly has anger issues and takes them out on his little children who cannot defend themselves. Best predictor of future behavior? Past behavior. So as we're starting to put the pieces together, I'm sure there's more evidence to support it. But when you think about what this scumbag has done to another child and you start to think about what could have happened to Emanuel, this is going to rise to the top because babies are hard sometimes, right? Like as parents, it's sleep deprivation and patience and all these things. 99% of the parents out there deal with it because that's what we're supposed to do.

But someone like this, an idiot like this, like you just said, short temper and they take it out on the kid and they put their hands on them and it's not like an adult where you can grab their wrist or something and, you know, even though you shouldn't be doing that, they're going to be okay. A baby like that, it's not going to take much to break a rib or an arm or, you know, dislocated shoulder. I'm not going to sit here and act like it didn't take much to do this damage. This was repeated. Oh, for the child? Oh, of course, of course. You've got healing rib fractures. You've got healing broken bones. This was consistent child abuse. Well, it's habitual, right? It's not over a period of time. It's not just one occasion because like you said, healing. Yeah, and the fact that that he left

this 10-week-old baby, who's seven now in a lifetime state of needing assistance. Why is he not in prison for attempted murder of a baby? I don't know. I don't know. Period. It's our court system for you. But he's going to have some problems in jail. That's for sure.

He's not going to do. He's going to be like our boy, Brian Colberger. When he finally goes back for this, yeah, hopefully. Have you heard, not to change subjects, but real quick. Have you been seeing some of the updates with Brian? Yeah. He's not, he's not really, he's not adapting well to life behind bars. Things are not going well from, and like I predicted, which is the most obvious prediction ever, but the people at prison, although they're there, probably most of them, because they need to be, they do not take kindly to going after women and kids.

Nope. A lot of them see their own children in them. Some of them probably have college kids, you know, that age range. Brian, Brian's going to have some problems. Yeah, because he's like a fake criminal, you know. It's like. Oh, he's a fake tough guy. Yeah, he's a fake tough guy.

Exactly. And so he's got to get you in the middle of the night while you're sleeping. Yeah, he's the kind of tough guy that has to prowl around off campus housing with a mask on to hide his eyebrows. And now he's asking for restraining orders and all this stuff. I mean, I'm not trying to smile if you guys are watching on YouTube, but I can't help it. Sometimes it's the little things that bring you joy. His pain brings me pleasure. Yes, but back to this case, yes, I completely agree with you.

Emmanuel might have been experiencing something for a long period of time and it just, went a little too far, which anything is too far, but it got to a point where whatever happened, Emmanuel was seriously injured or killed during that process. And I do have a question for you because I keep going back and forth. We have to wait until these details come out, but I know that you've seen it, and I'm sure everyone else online has seen it that allegedly Jake was brought out to an area to search. Yeah, so we're getting there. Hit it. And then I got a question about it. We're getting there. So on August 22nd, based on extensive inconsistencies and a lack of cooperating evidence,

law enforcement concluded that the kidnapping was fabricated and Emmanuel is likely to cease. Now, it's very hard to find accurate information, but what I heard is that they did have surveillance footage from not the big five, but from a neighboring business. Of course they did. Yeah. And the surveillance footage showed Rebecca Harrow, pulling the part. lot, get out of her car, and then just like fall down. Now, I don't know how accurate this is because somebody said they heard it through somebody who's on the case and then it's kind of going around social media. So I don't know how accurate it is, but I believe that. I believe that,

especially when they say lack of corroborating evidence. And I also heard that people at the football field, nobody had seen Emmanuel there before. So there's, you know, things coming out from people in the area who are saying, we heard this, we saw this, we didn't. see this, and I'm assuming that all of these people have talked to the police. Listen, this is what I'll say. When you have an incident like this where it could be an extremely difficult situation for the parents from what they just went through, as an investigator, you're not going to come out publicly, even if internally you guys are feeling a certain way and suggest in any way,

shape, or form that the parents are lying. This quickly, unless you have something definitive, the fact that almost immediately they were saying the evidence wasn't lining up. It has to be something that is indisputable, like a video, right, where they can say, we know you're lying, not because we're putting the pieces together, but this puzzle piece right here shows that you're lying. Now, they're not going to come out and say exactly what that is initially.

They don't want to give all their cards away, but the fact that they were even suggesting that things weren't aligning that early in the investigation, they had something that was something that you couldn't get, around. Something definitive, yeah. Yeah, something definitive that said, hey, listen, these guys are lying to us. We just have to find out why. Oh, and I also heard that a clerk at that Big Five store said that Rebecca Harrow had come in the previous week and asked them if they had security cameras. I mean, if that's true. Right. Yeah, that's, that's a slam dunk. And that, that to me, is just a start of it. There's

going to be so much here. It doesn't seem like this was really well thought out. To pick like a Big Five like that to do it, that's, that's dumb because there's so many people that can discredit your story. I know, but I think she thought maybe that the clerk had told her, no, we don't have cameras or whatever, which probably the clerk is trained to say they don't, even if they do, because it could be somebody casing the store. So she would be an idiot for just going along with that. But I think they thought, like, oh, if it's in a public place, I can't just pull over in like some random field and say this happened. I won't be as believed. And I do believe this is going to go to trial because both of these parents. So let me just continue.

Yes, please, because I still have my, I get this question that's burning. So this same day, which was August 22nd, when the law enforcement was like, hey, we think that this whole kidnapping thing was fabricated. Emmanuel is likely to cease. Then Jake and Rebecca Harrow were also arrested at their home and charged with murder and filing a false report. I think there's going to be a trial because even from jail, these people are still doubling down. They're like, we're going to find the highest hill we can, climb it and die on it. Because we are still going to keep just denying, denying, denying. And I guess at that point, if you're like a piece of shit enough to harm your child to the point where they die and then cover it up and then stage this big elaborate kidnapping hoax that that makes it nationwide, if you're that much of a piece of shit, I guess like denying and doubling down, it's all you can do.

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he was just kind of standing nearby. It wasn't like he was actively helping them. But, But yeah, basically that's where we are at now. And apparently they didn't find a manual there. They did not. They did not find anything. But once again, I heard that blood was found in their home during one of the searches. I heard that Rebecca Harrell was asking about surveillance cameras at the Big Five. I heard that there is surveillance video where you can see her not being mugged.

No one's saying, Ola, her just getting out of the car and falling down. and obviously it's pretty, it's pretty clear what happened here. I also want to point out that there's a very weird sort of parallel story. So this happened March 15th, 2017, a 27-year-old resident of Palm Springs, California, Jalen Amanda Keith. She was found with a single gunshot wound to the center of her head lying in the bathtub of the apartment she shared with her. boyfriend, a man named James Bo Shazzen, Bo B-Shaazen. Common spelling. Yeah, it's really not.

It's B-E-E-U-S-H-A-U-S-E-N. Okay, Bo-Shazen. So Bo-Shazen told the police, as well as emergency personnel and a 911 dispatcher, that his girlfriend had shot herself while he was asleep. He also made claims that he thought she may have slipped and hit her. her head. There was a head wound discovered on Jalen Keith, which investigators ended up feeling had occurred separately from the gunshots, meaning that they believe Jalen Keith had been assaulted and then she had been murdered and had her death kind of posed to look like a suicide to cover up

the assault that she had basically been the victim of. And they found a 9mm pistol beneath her body. Once again, police said this placement of this gun is not consistent with a self-inflicted wound given the position of her body. And her boyfriend, James, Bo Schausen, he claimed he had moved her body and the gun after waking up and finding her in the bathroom. So after this woman died, her boyfriend quit his job, returned to his hometown of Mack Allen, Texas, and then on October 18, 2017, Palm Springs investigators arrested him in a shopping center parking lots on July 10th, He was convicted of shooting his girlfriend in the head and staging the scene to look like a suicide. Jurors deliberated about two hours before they found him guilty of a murder.

And obviously they rejected his account and his defense team's account that she was driven to suicide because she was suffering from a painful illness and was upset about her boyfriend's alcoholism. So who is James Bouchazen? Well, he is the brother of Rebecca Harrow. So basically... Wow. Plot twist. So basically what's happening here is we have people who appear to be connected and involved in murders and then who participate in an attempt to cover it up and kind of hide the lead afterwards, people that can't just take accountability for what they did and

have to come up with some elaborate scheme or plot or story or narrative to make it look like it was something else and that they weren't involved and they're not guilty and they had nothing to do with it. Yeah. And I think where we are right now with this particular case, there's a few things that are to happen. And they probably already have happened. So the number one thing is you're going to separate Rebecca and Jake. You're going to keep them apart from each other because more than likely, not 100%, Jake's probably the offender here. And I don't know what Rebecca's involvement would be.

It seems like it'd be more so the cover-up. But either way, you separate them, they lose their power to stay united, and you let her know that if she wasn't involved, simply covering it up for him could result in her being convicted of murder as well. And she has to decide which route she wants to go, how loyal she's going to be to Jake.

They're going to bring in a room, they're going to try to turn her against them, saying, this guy did this to you. your son. How could you let this happen? What are you going to do to fix this now? It's too late to bring Emmanuel back. Help us. Help you. Let's find your son. And then how they're going to go about it if she's not working with them is first off, they're going to go to the house. And they're going to talk to witnesses from the neighborhood. They're going to talk to family members. They're going to talk to friends. They're going to try to establish a timeline to identify or pinpoint the exact

time when Emmanuel was last seen alive, wherever that may have been. Well, apparently he hasn't been seen alive in, from what I can tell, at least several weeks to a month. Okay, so they have to figure it out. They have to figure out the exact date. And then what they're going to do is do a data dump on both of their phones, their iPads, their GPS coordinates for their vehicles, all of that good stuff. Because they'll pinpoint the last time, let's say it's the football field, right? they saw a manuel at the football field on this date they're going to go back to that date and they're going to confirm that their phone records and their GPS data aligns with that last sighting right

then from there it's going to be a very long process but what they're going to do is go day by day with all the GPS coordinates to see if they went to any locations for an extended period of time that would be suitable for a dumping ground right areas where their car or their cell phones went out to a distant location and was there for maybe five, 10, 15 minutes, and that has never gone back since and was never there before. Another thing that they'll do, and they've already done this, I guarantee you because you mentioned blood, they're going to go into their house and they're going to probably use two types of tests.

One test would be luminal. I think most of our listeners and viewers already know about luminal. Luminol is going to be the fluorescent color that you see on dark surfaces and dark areas where let's say they cleaned up the area and you don't see anything visible to the eye by spraying the luminaul it will react with cleaning agents like bleach but it also reacts with blood so if they cleaned up the area after the fact under the luminal testing under that fluorescent lighting they would be able to see it another form of testing that they'll use is called LCV LCV is something that's also used all the time but for some reason less known i don't know

why, but LCV, I probably used that more than I used luminal. And LCV is pretty cool because what it does is it reacts with something in the blood. But if I go into a room and I see a stain or see something that could be blood, what you can do is use the LCV, which is like a spray, and you spray it on the area and what it does is it turns the blood into a dark purple. So what looks like a couple spots in the tub or the sink, when you spray the LCV, you'll see all. all of the blood that was there at one point, even if it's just a little bit left behind. And that is good for lighter colored surfaces

or if you don't want to be using fluorescent lighting. You'll see that with a human eye. So if you guys have ever seen crime scene photos or videos where the room is covered in like a purple spray or paint, that's actually LCV reacting to blood or in many cases blood. It's not always blood. So by doing that, they will be able to tell if a crime took place in any of the rooms of that house and if there was a clean up after the fact so and i mean we would

assume if this wasn't premeditated which i don't i don't have any reason to believe it was premeditated i just think this guy has an anger issue and takes it out on women and children if it wasn't premeditated then it most likely whatever happened did happen at home i agree i agree there's going to be some sign where he was Emmanuel was probably bleeding and there was a clean-up and they will they will be able to go back and tell all of this just from using certain chemicals and processes to develop whatever is left behind if they didn't do a good cleanup. So all of this, plus much more is going on behind the scenes. And I will tell you that I think the biggest thing right now to try to find Emmanuel is what I described earlier.

A team of people sitting there. One person has Rebecca's cell phone data. One person has Jake's cell phone data. Another person has, if they have like a black box on the car or whatever, one person has Jake's vehicle. another person has Rebecca's vehicle, if she has one, they have separate cars, and they're going through every single data point that they have to see if something stands out to them. Is there a random time in the middle of the night where all of a sudden one of their phones is out in a wooded area for an extended period of time and then goes right back to the house where there's nothing out there to be seen? Because these dummies more than likely took their phone with them. So I think the opposite.

And in what I think, Jake's already... You think the opposite, considering she went to a big box store and said that she was... Yeah, that was her. That was her. It's pretty dumb. Now, Jake's been through this with police before and what happened. He had to explain to them why on his iPad, he had Googled how to feed a baby with broken ribs. You're not helping your argument here.

I know, but that was in 2018. So he's already familiar that electronic devices can give him away and tell law enforcement more information than he would like them to know. So if he's taking a manual somewhere, and it would be him at the end of the day who would dispose of this body, he wouldn't trust her with that because it's his freedom on the line. He's going to leave his phone at home. Let's hope he doesn't. Yeah. I hope he doesn't. I don't think it's going to be that.

Hopefully he has an star or something in his car. I hope. I just don't think it's going to be that easy to find Emmanuel unless these two human pieces of garbage offer to volunteer the information. Like you said, one turns against one turns against the other. likely, in my opinion, if Jake was the one responsible for taking Emmanuel's body somewhere and hiding him, he did not even tell Rebecca where he went specifically so she could not turn on him because he's not going to trust her with his life, specifically so she could not turn on him and said, oh, he did this, this, and this, there's a lot of law enforcement

and DA's out there that'll tell you nobody, no crime. It's very difficult to prosecute a nobody case and they're going to be spending a lot of time trying to find Emmanuel and Jay Carl might be the only person who knows where he's at and he will never talk because he's the one on the line here. What I always tell you, Stephanie, criminals were smart. They wouldn't get caught. There you go. There you go. So we got to hope that the idiocy continued here. The dumb criminals don't get caught even because of just luck or, you know, they picked the right place. So my concern, I hope that even if they cannot find Emmanuel, they still can get have there enough evidence to...

They got to pinch her. They got to pinch her because even a non-body homicide is difficult, but if you have her testifying against him, even if they don't find Emmanuel, you got a pretty solid case. You got a pretty solid case. But this is very early on. I would like to agree with you. I've just seen so many cases go to trial like this. Well, let's keep the optimism.

We got to see, you know, there's so many other dynamics. I said I had a question to ask you. And this is probably a good segue for it right here. I think we both agree and we may be proven wrong that more than likely, is responsible for this, right? Now, if Rebecca ends up coming clean, let's say she helps the law enforcement help build a case, what type of culpability do you think she has because she initially did this whole fake kidnapping thing? I mean, I assume if she could give them enough credible evidence to charge him and to actually, like, bring it to court and

make it a successful prosecution, they would offer her a deal. Filing the false police report and that's it maybe. Yeah, yeah, I think. They might drop the murder charge, yeah. Especially if she can prove or, you know, has some sort of like supporting evidence that she didn't take part in it. Even though once again, if his 10-week-old daughter had multiple healing rib fractures,

I mean, how much damage could this person do to this child in 10 weeks? That's what I'm saying. She's been witness to this for a while more than likely. So she's been witness to this for a while. And that might have been intentional so that he was kind of like, hey, you've been complicit in this for a while. You've been helping me, you know, hurt our child for a long time now. If I go down, you go down.

Well, we'll see how it plays out. I pose that question to you guys as well. What do you think about this? Now that this is all starting to kind of develop and it looks like we may have a case that Emmanuel is not going to be coming home. And if that's what turns out to be the final verdict here, what type of culpability does Rebecca have? We know Jake, if he's the guy who did it.

What type of culpability does she have in our eyes? Or what type of culpability does she have legally if she makes a deal? I think she is just as culpable as he is. So that is two questions. This bitch, sorry, my bad. Yeah, this bitch is in jail now. And just gave an interview. And she's like, I will never stop searching for my son.

He was kidnapped. So she's once again, like, and then not only, not only, does she say he definitely was kidnapped, and I wish I was free so I could look for him. She says that Jake Harrow's a good dad who would never hurt his child. Bitch, he already has. He already has hurt a child that is his. What are you talking about? You sound dumb.

You sound dumb now. Well, now she's dumb and in prison. You can say, like, oh, I think he was kidnapped and I want to still look for him. But to follow it up with Jake Harrow's a good father who would never hurt his child. That's just... She's selling the story. And these are things that have to be considered. But when you get down to it and it all comes out and, like, I mean, they're both already

in prison for murder and filing a police report. But when it comes out during a trial, all this other information, you look worse now. You're less sympathetic. You're not a victim anymore when you continue doing this. You can't even go for a defense of like, oh, I was also being abused and I'm a victim. No. When you're doubling down like this, there's not going to be sympathy for you. not from the jury, not from law enforcement, not from the public.

You have no sympathy. Nobody's in your corner. Nobody believes you. I don't think anybody will be in her corner for sure. But I think there's two questions there. And we pose them to you guys. One, I think we all agree on the first question as far as her culpability. She's definitely part of the problem here by not intervening as soon as she saw something that shouldn't have been done.

But as far as where this goes from a not only an investigatory perspective, but also ultimately charging purposes, right? Are you willing to let her go to get Jake? How much leniency are we giving her if she's cooperative? Right now, it doesn't seem like that's the case, but if she changes her tune and starts working with law enforcement

and ultimately helps bring Emmanuel home, whether that's dead or alive, are you okay with her walking free to get Jake? That's the question I pose to you guys, and I want to wrap up this episode by giving you a teaser for this upcoming Crime Weekly because we did have a new case.

However, based on some of our listeners and viewers who are on X, you were reaching out to Brad Bradley and you had tagged us and he saw it. And one of you guys said, hey, you should go on Crime Weekly. He responded and said, I would definitely do that. Him and I got into the DMs. We started talking and we will be interviewing him today as you're watching this video or listening to the audio, whatever it is. So we're going to have an interview with Brad Bradley, Amy Bradley's brother, coming out this Friday.

And I'll just give you a little teaser. He's been listening to the podcast. And he already de-ended me and said, listen, I don't agree with a lot of your... He's going to set us straight. He's going to set us straight. He doesn't agree with a lot of the skepticism, specifically I have about the case and what they believe happened. Really? Really, you?

Not me? He said, I'm surprised to see your skepticism regarding what we believe. And I'm interested to hear what they actually believe. What do they believe happen to Amy? And we have some other questions that we've... And I want to ask questions about the camera. I have the Scientologist. I have questions here.

And definitely add that to this episode. Leave your questions in the comments below. If there's a specific question over the series that we covered that maybe we're forgetting that you really want to know about it. If it gets enough likes, that'll tell us, hey, this is a question that a lot of people want to know about. And we will add it to our list. So Brad's coming in, and I responded to him in the DM and said,

listen, I think it's great that you're coming on. We don't necessarily have to agree. We're open to anything. We don't have any skin in the game. And I think it's important for people to hear your side of the story. So we're looking forward to it, and we'll see how that goes. So any final words from you, Stephanie? Obviously, this is a horrible episode.

This is not the outcome you want, but I think it's kind of the outcome we all expected. Unfortunately. Yeah. So we'll keep you guys. updated will we do another crime weekly news on this probably not now they've been officially charged if emmanuel is found we'll put out a post or something but we'll wait to see how this one plays out long term but we're thinking about emmanuel's family uh the the remaining family members who have to now pick up the pieces and live with this because it doesn't only affect their family

it affects an entire community and uh you see the pictures of emmanuel you can't help but think about your own children so we're thinking of everyone involved and um you know my my my thither thoughts are with the family, but also with the investigators because now they have the difficult job of putting together a strong case to make sure that Jake doesn't get back out on the streets again like he did the last time, which I don't know how that happened, but I'll tell you this, that'll be looked into. That'll be looked into now in hindsight to say, what was this guy charged with? What was he convicted of? And why was he free? I don't understand. I don't understand that. Like, I don't. Emmanuel should still be here, right? And now they'll go back. I don't think anybody

will be held accountable because it's the way it works, but at least we can go back and look at what happened and maybe change some legislation so it doesn't happen again. I know that's wishful thinking. That's unlikely. I agree. I agree. But any final words from you? No, I have no final words. As far as I'm concerned, I mean, we've talked about this before. The fact that you get so much less time for attempted murder than you do for murder. Agreed. When you 100% intended for that person to die, but just the fact that they happen to survive gets you a more lenient sentence. That blows my mind. The fact that that even counts for children, and this little girl, Jay Carl's daughter, is forever, has her childhood, her mobility, her ability to communicate, stolen from her,

and he's walking around doing it to more kids, allegedly, is disgusting. And yeah, we would hope that the justice system would take a mirror up and look at the themselves, but that's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. But I think most of us will agree any form of child abuse, that's equivalent to murder as far as I'm concerned. You harm a child, you're dead to me. A child or an animal?

Yeah. Go to prison. Electric chair. See in the next life. That's my feeling on it. But we want to hear your thoughts. So weighing down in the comments below, leave a review, let us know what you think. We'll be back later this week with, I guess, our part five of Amy Bradley series.

It's going to be just the interview. We already covered the case. but we're looking forward to that and we're looking forward to hearing your feedback after that interview. Until then, everyone stay safe out there and we'll see you later this week.