Crime Weekly - S3 Ep335: Cardi B’s Viral Court Testimony

Episode Date: September 3, 2025

Cardi B testified in a $24 million civil lawsuit filed by former security guard Emani Ellis, who alleges that Cardi assaulted her in 2018. Cardi denied all physical contact, and attributed her reaction to feeling cornered while pregnant. Her animated testimony has quickly gone viral online. Try our coffee!! - www.CriminalCoffeeCo.com Become a Patreon member -- > https://www.patreon.com/CrimeWeekly Shop for your Crime Weekly gear here --> https://crimeweeklypodcast.com/shop Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CrimeWeeklyPodcast Website: CrimeWeeklyPodcast.com Instagram: @CrimeWeeklyPod Twitter: @CrimeWeeklyPod Facebook: @CrimeWeeklyPod

Hey everyone. Welcome back to Crime Weekly News. I'm Derek Levasseur. And I'm Stephanie Harlow. And first off, thank you to everyone who watched or listened to the Brad Bradley episode, starting to see some audio comments trickle in. So far, so good. We hope you guys got a lot out of it. Overall, we didn't have like a closing statement with that interview because we felt like it was pretty self-explanatory. We didn't plan on interviewing Brad. We closed out our episode. We had kind of put a bow on it.

Brad was additional information because we had came to our own conclusions. And always with every case we covered, I know I say it all the time, but there's no incentive for us to lean one way or the other. You've seen it with other cases where popular opinion may be one thing and we end up going in a different direction. And we get more hate for it than anything. But that's because, and this is what I love about Stephanie and where we're definitely always on the same page, we call it how we see it, even if it's not the majority opinion, right? And that's what I do think differentiates us from a lot of podcasts because sometimes without saying names, they like to see where the consensus is online. And then they go that similar angle. So for us, having Brad on wasn't to debate him, wasn't to discredit anything that he believed.

it was to say, hey, here's what we believe. Here's what Brad and his family believes. And he offers a different perspective than we can ever provide you guys. And we want you to have the full picture so you can make an informed decision or conclusion on how you feel about the case. And I really do think that Brad's information and his perspective and everything he provided did add another dimension to it. And I will say for me personally, it didn't completely change my mind.

He doesn't really entertain the idea that Amy could be in the water. and, you know, I push back on that a little bit. I still think it's possible. There's nothing to discredit that theory or say it's not possible and the absence of evidence is not evidence. So we can agree to disagree on certain things. That's why I thought the conversation was so great. What about you, Stephanie?

Anything you wanted to add to that before we get into something that's a little lighter? No, I'm glad we did it. I am glad we did it. And if we can help him in some way or the Bradley's in general in some way, I would obviously want to that. And I think everybody listening, whether they agree with us, whether they agree with Brad, would want the same for Amy. Of course. We all want the same thing. We want to know what happened to her. I will say one minor follow-up before we get into the episode, I did promise Brad that I was going to reach out to James Renner. I did. And without going into too many details, he was receptive. And we are now communicating. And I believe he's going to be at CrimeCon. So I'm going to try to get as much information as I can. And we'll see where it takes us. For me personally, yeah, I'd love to interview Yellow. But for me, what I really like to kind of, what angle I'd like to go is to find this woman,

Jess, and see if she actually exists, right? Because if she does, and we can find her, she could answer a lot of questions for us. So that's going to be my goal. I don't know how successful I'll be. We'll see where it goes. And if we have a major update, we'll let you know. The only other thing I have is Stephanie seeing it for the first time in person. She obviously saw the designs.

But we're actually recording these episodes early because we're going to, to be at crime con when they're going to be coming out so this is the new merchandise that's going to be at crime con so we have the new criminal coffee t-shirt which if you're on audio i apologize and with a new criminal coffee hat this is not available on the website yet we're actually going to be launching it at crime con but when we get back it will be available for everybody who's on audio and you can't see it it's a baby blue shirt it's got like a cartoon style hand with a handcuff attached to a coffee mug it's really that's baby blue yeah like a little baby blue. I will say I was telling Stephanie, I was out in the rain, so it's a little

darker. But yeah, modeling it off for you. Pretty cool. We're also going to have a special Denver edition, right? The CrimeCon Denver shirt is so sick. We have one for Nashville last year. So cool. Yeah, that'll be available just at CrimeCon. We're going to have that every year. We had Nashville last year. We're going to have Denver this year. Might be my favorite shirt we've ever done. Yeah. Shout out to Ashley for designing it yet, so I'm going to be surprised. Well, you haven't seen it in person, but remember I sent you the design? Not the Denver one. Oh, maybe I didn't.

You didn't. I thought you wanted to surprise me, and now I know that you just didn't think of me. You're going to love it. Is there a cannabis leaf in it? There is not a cannabis leaf, but there's some other cool stuff. It's Denver, man. I know. I probably should add it a cannabis leaf.

And they're like a little Easter egg. Someone could find maybe there is a weed plant in there somewhere. Never know. But overall, I just wanted to put that out there. Again, this is the merch. It'll be available in a couple weeks when we get it. back. But everyone, thank you for the support. We're still waiting for permission to give you guys a major update in the criminal coffee sphere as far as the case that we were working. We're right

there. There's one more person who has to sign off before we can speak about it publicly. I've been harassing people, literally, to give us permission to do it. And I've basically told them that we're announcing it by CrimeCon, with or without their permission. So find a way to get it. had done. But that update's coming soon and I can promise you it's a huge one. Probably our biggest yet on criminal coffee. Let's talk about Cardi B. Okay. That's so why are we, first off, tell them why we're covering Cardi B this week. I think I kind of gave a little bit of a heads up. So we sat down to do Crem Weekly News and we were like, you know, this is going to be difficult because we usually do like current topical stuff and because we're filming ahead, that's going to be a little bit more difficult.

But all I can think of for the last several days is Cardi B. You were telling me, I hadn't seen it. Well, her trial, which has become the most entertaining trial I've ever seen. And I think it's a really, I think it's a really good message what's happening. I think it's important to talk about because here's the deal. In 2018, Cardi B goes to an OBGYN. She's pregnant at that point, about 12 weeks pregnant. And she's getting checked. And they had shut down the building because obviously Cardi B, if you don't know, rapper, huge celebrity, big time.

We all know who Cardi B is, right? I think. I hope. Even I know who she is. Okay, good. That says something. So if Derek knows that. Yeah, that's saying something.

Cardi B goes into this building and she says she's walking towards the elevator and she sees the security guard, the female security guard, Amani Ellis. And she sees Amani Ellis on her phone and Amani says, oh, oh, damn, it's Cardi B. And then Cardi B sees her holding her phone and recording her. Amani's recording Cardi B. But that wasn't enough, right? this security guard, Imani, has to now follow Cardi B. And finally, Cardi B turns around and she's like, what are you doing? Leave me alone. Stop following me. Stop filming me. And then they get into a verbal argument where this female security guard, Imani Alice, she's like, this is my building. You need to

leave. I can do whatever I want. This, this and that. They're fighting. Eventually, the doctor's receptionist comes out. She kind of gets in between these two women. And then the doctor comes out. And we're going to hear testimony from both the receptionist and the doctor during this trial. And then several years later, Amani Ellis sued Cardi B for $24 million, claiming that she scratched her face during this altercation. Now, even if that was true, which I'm going to be straightforward with you, I don't believe that that is true. I don't believe she scratched her face at all. and the doctor never saw injuries on Amani Alice's face. Amani Ellis lost her job as a security guard after that for her unprofessional behavior.

The receptionist who came out and got between them, never saw scratches on Imani's face. In fact, the receptionist says that Amani, who was in front of her, she believes she scratched her, the receptionist. And then Amani Ellis also has this lawyer who's just absolutely terrible. So that's basically what the court case is about. And Cardi B gets up on the stand. And I think she's telling everybody, the jury, the judge, the lawyers, with her behavior, with her way of answering questions, I don't take this seriously. I don't take this seriously because it's a money grab. I don't take this seriously because what this woman is saying never happened.

And I think she's just trying to get money out of me, which even if Cardi B did scratch her face, asking for $24 million is absolutely absurd. Yeah. How do you even come up with that number, $24 million? Oh, apparently she had to get plastic surgery that cost like $17,000, like, oh, ludicrous. This is ludicrous. And I think I saw, I forget what news channel it was. Surprise there's no security footage. I don't know.

It never is when you need it. I forgot what news channel it was today, but the woman anchor came on and she was like, this is clearly why Cardi B took this to trial because she could have paid this woman off, you know, throwing her a couple million. Then like, hey, let's let this go away. But Cardi B is like, this is absolutely a joke. And I even saw in Cardi B's own TikTok, she was like, people are asking me, why are you acting like this? And it's like, because this is a charade. This is a charade.

I'm not going to take this seriously. It's absolutely ludicrous. And it's very clear what it is. And Cardi B's got the jury laughing. She's even got the judge stepping in and defending her against the plaintiff's lawyer who's trying to catch her out and saying, oh, she perjured herself or she did this. And the judge is like, no, she didn't. What are you talking about?

So it's awesome. Because you know there are people out there like that who are just going to, you know, if you're a public figure, if you're somebody that they think has money, they're going to go after you, make claims against you and try to see if you'll settle or if they can get a, you know, if they can get money from you. Yeah. And Cardi B is like, no, not today. And I love this because I've listened to Cardi B's music here and there, but now I'm a fan of her personally because she's very authentic, right? She is who she says she is. She is, you know, this, I think she's from New York City. She's kind of like, you know, straightforward, non-apologetic.

Just, this is who I am. And I really respect that because she's not sitting up on that stand, pretending to be like prim and proper and sweet. She's being 100% authentically herself. And it's really working for her. So I wanted to play a clip of a few of my favorite highlights from the trial that. at a TikToker called Barty Swap put together. You know, there was so many great highlights and moments from this trial.

I highly suggest you all go and watch in a full. I think that there is only three or four days of testimony. But, yeah, it's hilarious. So let's play those clips. Derek can watch for the first time. And then we'll take a break and come back and discuss. Did you call her fat? No.

I was calling her a bitch. You said she's bigger than you? Is that correct? Absolutely. How do you know that? I mean, look Very concerned And why were you concerned?

Because I'm pregnant And this girl's about to fucking beat my ass Hello Hello I don't see in your own words what you said I said bitch get the fuck on my face Why are you in my face? Why are you recording me? Ain't you supposed to be security

And she's physically bigger She's taller I mean you have her You have a medical record. I don't have. She's overweight, right? In your opinion. Like my height.

But she is like... What? Hey. Security heavy. What does that mean? Like she just looks a little... Like she could protect the building. Right.

She just look more developed than me. I will say this. she looks great. She looks way better than I ever did at court testifying. I wish I looked like that. So that's another thing, right? Because on the first day of court, she had like a black like pixie cut haircut. And then the next day she had, I think, like blonde waves. And then she had this wig. And the lawyer, Imani Ellis's lawyer, I was like, yesterday you with this hair. And now you have this hair. What's your real? What's your real hair? And she's like, they're all wigs. Like, hello. And he goes, hello. Right? to her. Yeah, so he's talking about her appearance. He's clearly trying to get her riled up. I think 100%. Because it doesn't even like her saying anything about her appearance. Obviously, we don't condone making fun of someone's physical appearance. Yeah, of course. But how is it relevant? That's not

illegal. It's not. It's not relevant. He's just trying to assassinate her character. He's trying to make her seem like this angry person who can't keep her temper. And I want to preface this once again by saying, we're not body shaming. We don't. support body shaming, but it's one of these things where it's like, hey, if you don't want trouble, don't go looking for it. Don't follow someone through a building filming them when you're supposed to be the security guard of that building upholding yourself to a certain standard. Absolutely. Then get in that person's face and expect them to be sweet as pie to you simply because they're a public figure and they have more to lose than you do. And maybe you said this. I could have missed it,

but this person, it was like it was in front of a doctor's office, correct? It was in the building of a doctor's office. And Cardi B, was she seeing? that doctor. She was there to see the doctor. So there's got to be some type of HIPAA thing to that as well. Like she's visiting the doctor for whatever medical thing. Obviously, I think it's because she was pregnant. Maybe it was something else. She was because she was pregnant. She said she was getting her kitty check. But your security is recording a patient. That's a problem. Well, she lost her job. Amani Ellis lost her job. I am not surprised. But that is, it's not even like, oh, well, you know, there's people, of course. Of course there's people out there who just hate

everyone and they're like, well, Cardi B is a public figure and she shouldn't expect privacy in public. And it's like, no, you don't expect privacy in public. But if you're a public figure, if you're at an OBGYN's office, you haven't announced that you're pregnant, that's your news to tell and share when you feel like you're ready to do that, whether it's with your fans or your family members even, that you shouldn't be like stalked and recorded and harassed in any place, and especially not a doctor's office by somebody who's there to be security of that bill. Yeah, I mean, I will say, not in this case, but there are public figures, celebrities who feel like, you know, they have control over everything. And if you're out in public, unfortunately, that is the negative that comes with being famous where if you're out in a public place, people have the right to record you and there's not much you can do about it.

And I'm not saying it's right, but it is what it is. And it comes with the other perks that you get being famous. Comes with the territory. And there are certain celebrities who you see on different paparazzi websites and stuff. And they're expecting, like, everyone to just, like, cover their eyes as they walk by. And I look at those people and I just kind of roll my own eyes being like, dude, or you chose this life. Like, take the good with the bad. It could be a lot worse.

Now, if it comes out, if some way they're able to prove that Cardi B assaulted this woman, she should be entitled to something. I don't think they're going to be able to prove that because if they could, Cardi B's team wouldn't have let her go to trial. Like you said, they would have settled outside of court. So, yeah, I mean, I agree with what's going on here. here, Cardi B is making light of this. She knows it's going to get clipped. She knows it's going to be a thing. Yeah, she's like, this is looted.

Like, you have to pull me away from my family, for my work to come and do this charade of a trial. I'm going to show you exactly how seriously I'm taking it. No, exactly. It makes total sense. And I am in no way, shape, or form comparing myself to Cardi B or any celebrity for that matter. I'm not even on the list.

But when I won big brother, when I got back, I had a group of people when I went back to being a police officer trying to incite me to put my hands on them. And it was like people would like physically try to get in my face while somebody else was recording because it was a small police department and everybody in that city knew that I had just won a little bit of money. I actually had to go get an insurance policy separate from the police department's insurance policy to cover myself because they were trying to elicit a specific response where if they catch me out a bad angle, putting my hands on them, they could sue me, you know, civilly

and get some money out of me. So again, not anything compared to what these real celebrities face every day. But as you said at the top of the episode, unfortunately, when you have money and people know it, they will try to get that out of you, even if it's not warranted. So here's my question from a law standpoint, because I've been watching the trial and I've kind been wondering, there's been a lot of questions like, well, did you call her a bitch? Well, did you call her fat? Well, did you call her this? And I'm wondering why is this relevant? Because as far as I'm concerned, if somebody's following, like if somebody is following you around, Derek, like you said, they're trying to elicit you to put your hands on them, to put your hands on them

so they can sue you. But the last time I checked, it's not illegal to turn around and say, like, get the hell away from me, bitch. Like, it's not illegal to call people names to do anything. That's not illegal. And so to kind of go with that line of questioning, when you're trying to prove that your client was physically assaulted, why are you talking about the verbal things that Cardi B said other than to try and make her look like this bad person and you're trying to almost get the jury to be like, oh, I can't believe she called her security big, you know, like she could defend a building and that's mean, so we're going to find you guilty just because of that. That's what I think they're trying to do. What I think they're trying to do is a tactic to

show that Cardi B has a temper and is impulsive because the narrative they're putting forward is that Cardi B turned around or whatever and whacked their client, right? They hit this, Cardi B hit her, their client. So if they can prove in front of everyone that if poked the right way, Cardi B can lose her temper and burst out and become hostile,

then it's a lot less harder to believe that if in this moment with their client, maybe Cardi B displayed similar actions and emotions and put her hands on her knowing that there wasn't a group people around to monitor what she was doing. So I think they're just trying to show a different side of Cardi B to say, hey, she's not this funny. Like,

to ruffle her and get her to act out on the stand. And then if she does, if she gets up there and he says something and she lashes out at him, he's going to go, see? But she didn't. She didn't take the bait. She didn't take the bait. But you can tell he's trying to instigate her.

Yeah, and she's being out. She's like, yeah, I called her a bitch. Yeah. She's like, hello. He's like, hello. Hello. And he's like, hello. Yeah, he's very passive aggressive about it.

She's like, I'm pregnant, and this woman is trying to, like, beat my ass. Hello. And he's like, hello. Yeah, in a perfect world for that lawyer, what he would like to see is her maybe, like, pound the desk and yell at him and swear at him. And he can go, Mrs. Cardi B. Is this the same type of behavior you displayed? Another tactic he used. At one point, he was like, oh, what did you say to her?

And she repeated it. And he's like, okay, now turn around and say it to her now as she, like, sits in the courtroom. It's trying to provoke her. Yeah, she looked. And she's like, you want me to say it to her now? And he's like, yeah, she's like, I don't need to. I already did. Just done, done.

It was a beautiful masterclass. Cardi B's from the streets, right? Like she grew up having to defend herself, protect herself from the little I know about her. She had a tough upbringing. And she was a dancer for a while. She didn't have everything handed to her. So she is not someone who's afraid to stick up for herself. Is she a perfect angel?

Has she done everything right in life? Of course not. Yeah. Was she right in this scenario? Sounds like it. 100% believe so. And even the receptionist came out and said that Amani Ellis, because the receptionist testified and said, Amani Ellis was like a wave in her hands, like, you know, going crazy. And I was trying to get in between them. And the doctor came out. And the lawyer said, well, did you see a mark

on Amani Ellis's face? And he's like, no. And he's like, well, how did you know? Were you looking at her face? And the doctor said, yes, I was looking at her face. I looked at her face very seriously and close up and gravely and told her this behavior that you just did is unacceptable. So yes, I looked at her face. And he's a doctor. So he might have noticed something if there was an injury to her face. I think he's probably pretty perceptive. And then they were talking about, oh, what kind of nails did Cardi B have that day? And it's like, I promise you it doesn't matter. As somebody who's had acrylic nails in the past, they are so dull. They're like waxy. You could not scratch somebody to the point of meeting plastic surgery with acrylic nails if you tried. Like, you can't even scratch an itch on your own skin

sometimes. So it's just absolutely ludicrous. It's clearly a money grab. She went went way too big, $24 million. Her lawyer looks stupid. Her lawyer's making her look stupid. Amani Ellis, even like, never mind. He kind of exposed that Amani Ellis went to a doctor for some VD issues. And I'm not sure if he was supposed to do that. But the lawyer, Amani's lawyer, seems to be the one who's kind of getting upset and agitated

and elevated where Cardi's staying completely chill. But yeah, oh, one more question, though. Let's say in this scenario, Amani Ellis is just. doing what she's doing, let's say she attacks Cardi physically first. Can Cardi now legally physically attack back in self-defense to protect herself if it could be proven with security footage or somebody else filming that Amani Ellis like grabbed her hair and started like hitting her. If Cardi hits her back, can Amani Ellis still sue her in a civil court for like damages, I guess? Well, I'm not an attorney, but it's a case by case basis. For example, if you find yourself in a

corner where someone's attacking you, you have the right to defend yourself. Now, if it's more of a mutual disagreement where you're both in each other's face, both of you have the ability to retreat or de-escalate the situation and one person strikes one and then the other one strikes back and then they're both striking each other, I would say that's disorderly conduct. That's more of a fist fight. But no, if you're intentionally trying to remove yourself from the situation and the aggressor is following you, instigating you, getting into your personal space and then putting their hands on you, you have the right to defend yourself. That could still be argued at court. In a civil trial, she probably could still sue her for that. That's right. That's right.

So there's going to be, oh, this is, this is a civil trial. I would think this is a civil trial. I mean, criminally, in a criminal trial, there's no criminal case here. There's no criminal case, even if Cardi B had hit her back because it would be in self-defense, but even in a civil trial. If anything, they'd both be charged. They'd both be charged. Yeah, but Cardi could have sued Imani for assault. Amani could have sued Cardi for assault. The problem is Amani probably doesn't have close to as much money as Cardi has. So the theory that I have is that she intentionally followed her, intentionally tried to get under her skin. Like you said, hoping to elicit a reaction where Cardi would lash out and hit her, which she could then get on camera and then sue her. But that didn't happen.

So she had to fabricate her wounds and then try to push that off on Cardi be hoping it would fly somehow or that Cardi would pay her off. If I had to guess, what actually happened was Cardi's at her doctor's appointment. She's pregnant, probably not feeling great, feeling a little exposed because she's a big celebrity and she's around a lot of people. And so as she's coming in, she sees this security guard, someone who works for the company, filming her. And I'm sure, if I'm being fair here, Cardi said, what are you doing?

Not in those ways. Not until she started following her. Well, following along with her, whatever, you know, whatever the case may be, Cardi B, probably said, what are you doing? And I don't think it was probably as overt as Cardi B is saying. I'm sure it was somewhere in between. I don't think she was probably like walking with the hand, you know, the camera two inches from her

face. No, she said she had it on her chest like this and she was following her. Yeah, she was trying to be like discreet. And I'm sure Cardi B, like we've seen on some videos probably said, what the F are you doing and like called her out embarrassed? Aren't you security? You're not just a normal person. Correct. I'm not saying

it's right, but embarrassed her. And now at this point, the security guards going from being a fan to feeling disrespected. And so she gets aggravated and now it goes from hey, I want to film you to show my friends to now I either want to fight you or get some money out of you. And so

to look at both sides of it, maybe Cardi B. being a celebrity could have just said this person's filming me that's unprofessional. I'm going to tell someone at the front desk that shouldn't have happened and maybe not handled it herself. Hindsight's always 20-20. Two wrongs don't make a right and the fact that the security guard's now trying

to get $24 million out of her. It is. It's comical. See, I see it a different way. It's like, why is the person who's considered a public figure? Why do they always have to be the one to take the high road? At what point does the average person have to take accountability for the fact that what you're doing is weird. You're weird. You're following someone around. You're recording them. They've asked you to stop. You say you're not going to stop because you don't have to because they're in public. It's disrespectful. And when did the person telling the disrespectful person that they're being

disrespectful, become more disrespectful than the disrespect itself. Yeah, I don't even know what you just said there. You don't? No, I didn't follow you. Basically, like, if you're being a bitch, why is me telling you that you're being a bitch worse than you actually being a bitch? It's not. And I mean, I'm not going to spend 20 more minutes on the right and wrong.

Overall, two wrongs don't make a right. And so what I'm saying is it's not Cardi B's responsibility to be the bigger person, but you would hope in her position she would be. Because again, this could have been avoided. I'm sure she has to be every day. And 100%. Yeah, it's probably like enough. This is the blessing and the curse of being a super celebrity.

And we see a lot of times online there's those videos where they're at post offices and things like that where it's a public place and you'll have these auditors go in there and they have their cameras and they're recording everyone coming and going and a lot of the customers get pissed off. And these auditors will say, listen, there's cameras in here right now. you're always on camera. It's my constitutional right where I can record in here and then the cops come and there's nothing really they can do about it because they are allowed to do it. Wait, what are the auditors doing? They're basically testing their constitutional rights to record in a public space.

They're just doing it to do it? It's to basically they call it a pressure test. In some instances, these people are trying to elicit a response from law enforcement. I've never heard of this before. Yeah, because law enforcement will show up and if the police officer is not familiar with the constitution, they They, you know, arrest them or ask them to leave. And legally, they're not allowed to. They have a right to record, even though it's uncomfortable for the customers that are there. So they're just recording to make people uncomfortable and prove that they can record. There's no actual part.

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of in my life. It's, go look online. This is, this is dumb. People are bored and have way too much time on their hands. Yeah. So that happens. But overall, it's like, I wish we all would just, you know, do better. Just be respectful.

Like, treat others as you would like to be treated. It's very simple. Yeah, I think the security guard at first probably didn't mean anything by it. It was obviously unprofessional. It shouldn't have been done. Cardi B called her out for it, and it went from bad to worse. And now you have some TikToks. Yeah, because people aren't used to being called out.

People aren't used to being called out. People are used to being able to get away with whatever because everyone's afraid of being sued or being recorded and put on TikTok. But it's like enough. Yeah. Well, that's all I got for Cardi B. We're 30 minutes in on this one. Cardi B is awesome. The TikTok was funny.

Go off, girl. We did something a little lighter this week. We're currently, as this is coming out on YouTube, I'm on a plane to California. Stephanie's packing up, getting ready to go to CrimeCon for everybody that will be there. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, we look forward to seeing you. It's going to be a great time.

We're banking our episodes before we go. So anybody who's not attending, you're not going to miss a beat. We're going to have our Crime Weekly news and our Crime Weekly episodes. Everything will be out on time as expected. us on socials for crime, for crime con updates and cool things that are happening there. Yeah, behind the scene stuff. And we'll be, we'll probably go live or do something while we're there as well. So we'll see you later this week with the first part of our new series.

But until then, everyone stay safe out there and we'll see you soon. Bye.