Crimeatorium - The Secret She Couldn’t Keep: The Tomaselli Recordings | Part 4

Episode Date: August 16, 2026

A NOTE BEFORE LISTENING: Following the secretly recorded conversations presented in the previous episodes, investigators asked Linda Sue Roberts to come in for an interview. The audio in Part 4 is the resulting conversation between Linda and detectives as they question her about her father’s death. For the clearest understanding of the events, please listen to Parts 1 through 3 before continuing.This seven-part series features the secretly recorded conversations that helped expose the truth behind Anthony Tomaselli’s death. Crimeatorium obtained the recordings from the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office.Four years after 85 year old Anthony Tomaselli’s death was attributed to natural causes, his daughter Linda Roberts invited a man she had been dating to her home and entrusted him with a disturbing secret about her father’s final night.Realizing the enormity of what Linda was telling him, the man discreetly began recording their conversation. What started as a private confession would lead investigators back to a death no one had questioned.Part 5 of the series will be released tomorrow.Music:CO.AG Music https://www.youtube.com/@co.agmusic1823If you have a case suggestion for Crimeatorium, please send it to [e-mail].

Welcome to True Crime Stories with Crime-a-Trorian. I appreciate, I appreciate you coming with us and we'll discuss everything today. I, this is my partner, Mike. And I'm medicine, like I told you. I kind of want to talk to you. There's a couple things on top of talking to you about this incident. with your husband, there's also a couple other things that I want to talk to you, too. And I know that I'm looking at, you know, from talking to you in the car, you seem pretty,

you know, straightforward, right? Am I right? Yes. Okay. And I'm the type of person that I like honesty. Okay. All right? And I'll be honest with you, and you be honest with me.

Okay. Okay. And that's just the way, how I work. All right. And my partner is the same way. Okay. Um, so do you, do you, other than your, um, is there, do you know why you're here as well? No? Okay. Well, I want to explain that to you, okay? But before doing that, okay, doesn't mean, I'm going to have, you know, here in the United States, we have rights, correct? Correct. So, I just want to, I have to read you your rights. It doesn't mean you're under arrest or anything like that. You're at a police station. You're at a police station. We're here. I want to talk to you, okay? Okay, and we're doing some information. We'll tell you what's going on. All right, so let's just get this out of the way

And then we'll move forward. Okay. Okay. Is that fair? All right, so Linda you have the right to remain silent anything you say can it will be used against you In the court of law you have the right to talk to a lawyer and have him or her present with you Why do you be in question? If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer one will be appointed to represent you before any question if you wish. You can decide at any time and exercise these rights and not answer any questions. Do you

understand each of these rights? I'll explain to you. Okay. Having your rights in mind, do you wish to talk to us? Like I said to you, I want to explain everything to you. Okay. All right? So, so that's what we're, you're gonna, we're here. Okay? All right? Now, you seem a little Well, some of you swear to your rights, yes, I understand, but we'll explain this. Okay, so let me back up here. So you said you lived here all your life. You were born here, right? No, I was born in Chicago.

Born in Chicago. My father brought us here, and the family. What year was that, roughly? Roughly. It was early 60s. Early 60s? Okay. You were young.

I was a child. Okay, so you were very little. I don't remember even really yet. And you said that your father—and then you guys ended up coming here with your—you said you had a sister, right? I have a sister, yes. And what else? One brother.

One brother. So it's what, three of you? Three of us. Mercy, yes. Mercy, yes. Mercy, yes. Mercy, yes. Mercy, yes.

Mercy, yes. Mercy, yes. Mercy, yes. Mercy, yes. Mercy, yes. One brother. One brother. So it's what?

Three of you? Three of us. Where's he at? Where's the brother? My brother lives in Bradenton, Florida. Okay. What's his name? Charles Tomaselli.

Okay. Okay. So— T—you want to re-spell it? T-O-M-A-S-E-L-L-I. Good. Okay. There we go.

Okay. So you guys are down here. And you said—what did you do for thirty years, you said? Worked as an assistant. Worked as an assistant. Okay. So you guys are down here. And you said—what did you do for thirty years, you said?

for 30 years, you said? Worked as a nurse practitioner. Nurse practitioner, are you registered as a nurse practitioner through the state of Florida? Well, registered by, you mean? The Department of Health. I'm, well, I'm registered as a, actually a medical assistant.

A medical assistant. Right. Okay, what does a medical assistant do? I assist the doctor in surgery, I assist them, anything, injections, suture removals, just everything that we do together, hand in hand. Okay, so do you, so part, is that a, what class, where did you go for class for that? Tampa College. Tampa College, so you're a, you're not, so you are a nurse practitioner, or you're a, It's not a medical assistant.

It's actually a certified medical assistant. Okay. And then by that, your job title is you assist the doctor. Yes. Do system surgery. Where do you guys usually do surgery at? In the office. In the office.

What kind of doctor is it? General practitioner. We remove sebaceous cysts in the back, moles. It's been offered by a page of blood every day. Um, just whatever needs to be done during the day. And do you go to hospitals for those as well? No, we do all in office. All in office.

Yeah. Okay. Um, and so you just, do you, do you give injections too? Yes. What kind of injections? Whatever the doctor ordered. Okay. All right.

So. Antibiotics. Antibiotics. Okay. So you did this for how long? Thirty years. And when did you retire? I became disabled when I lost my vision 19—well, it was four years ago.

Four years ago? Yes. And wait, that would have been 2015? Yes, I guess. 2015, yes. Okay. Um, so, I was looking at a report, um, so your father, your father is deceased, right? Yes.

Okay, can you tell me a little bit about that? About what? About what happened? What happened? What happened to my father? The doctor, well he had his companion died

three weeks prior to him and He had dementia And he was going to go into Brookdale Okay. My father and sister and I all decided he was going to go there. Okay. So, he didn't want to go.

He was adamant about not going to an assisted living. And what did your mom say and Linda say about that? They argued with him about it. Like, you need to go. You need to be watched 24-7. Like, kind of like they felt like it would bother me. Which my grandfather and I had both agreed that it was not a problem for me to stay and take care of him. was happy at this point right you know he was happy playing cards with me and watching prices

right all day and going to lunch like he had a life he did not want to be stuck in an assisted living facility with old people as he called it because i'll just die there and that's what he said okay he did not want to go there but they were not happy with his decision my aunt said i believe it was the night before he passed or you know when the night she came to visit that he was not able to make his own decisions and she felt like he was incompetent and things like that i disagreed with her big time i disagreed sure you argued with her about that well i didn't argue because that's their dad but i put my my two cents in and said like you know he's 85 the doctors don't think he needs to not have a license that he can drive they don't think he needs his power

attorney to take over his finances he doesn't i don't feel he was incompetent at all okay sure i mean except for the last two days of his life when he started calling me marybeth and my mom rosalie right i started to see a decline those last two days but within the 10 days you know sure he'd forget little things like did i take my milk and magnesia or did i take my pills and he would just look in the container but for the most part for the most part he would have been all right to have me stay with him okay but he had to go there it was a beautiful place and um the my sister and i moved in after shirley died to take care of my father because he had nobody but the last two nights prior my mom and my aunt were there did they always stay there they didn't

i was staying there like they'd come visit him but i was the one after shirley died that they wanted to move in because i wasn't working so they said that you know i could come in and stay with them take them to appointments keep them company he'd like to play cards he just liked to take walks in the neighborhood so i could hear my father my father had lung cancer seven years ago okay and And he was with Shirley. So I wasn't involved in his medical care during that time when Shirley was alive. When I was there, my father was, he said he felt like he had a stabbing pain in his chest. And he had this awful cough, very productive.

And so I recognized that something was wrong. So my niece was also staying there. I said, call the doctor, make an appointment. They need to do a chest x-ray, see what's going on with my dad's lung. So they did. So that night at 7 o'clock, the doctor called me, Dr. Zion, and he said that your father has, they removed part, they removed the lung cancer and the lung, three-quarters of the lung, I believe.

When did they do that? probably five to six years ago okay okay so he calling he told me your father has a humongous mass in his other bone and it looks it could be it looks like a solid mass that he has the cancer has the test size along so he said we need him to see first the cardiologist in the morning first thing to me in the point form and then they were going to go on and to the one doctor to get a biopsy of what this big mass was so i said okay so he said my dad told me and my sister we he said i don't feel good he says i'm gonna lay down on the couch and they had two rockers on either end he said would you mind

staying up while i lay down here and sleep but this night when he was doing his prayers he dropped the after he had drank my mom was sitting there linda was sitting there who gave him the drink do you remember i don't know i don't remember who gave him the drink but it was an every night thing like he would just have a drink to relax himself and the doctor i remember his doctor would tell him that was fine because he was 85 years old absolutely so if he wanted a drink fine um i remember my mom or linda giving him an anxiety pill because he was getting more anxious and i was anxious so about nine he was like shaking a little bit and dropped his book I thought something was wrong with him

and I told Linda I said there's something wrong with him like that's just not normal he never sat on the couch he would always sit in his recliner this night he sat where Shirley sits was always on the couch that's where he sat my mom gave me something said here this will relax

you and just go take a shower and go lay down it was about 11 o'clock so who gave you that my mom and she told me go ahead go take a shower and go to bed did you know what it was i don't know what it was because she was my mom you know what i mean so i remember feeling really tired it was about 11 or 12 so your mom i don't remember if it was like a xanax or if it was just something to help me sleep because i had been up with him because he was my only

father figure at this point so like i worried about him so you know like if he wasn't in his bed by midnight i would go say papa let's shut the tv off let's go to bed okay so this was remember it was between 11 and 12 that she gave you that she gave it to me because she said go take a shower or was it was my mom your mom gave it and she told me to go ahead and go to sleep that they would stay up with him because he was starting to call my mom rosalie so she was a little concerned and then he was shaking and being linda was a nurse i you know thought both of them could handle it like that was your purpose not to help me sleep but so I wouldn't hear what you were doing.

Of course, sure we will. So he went to sleep, snoring away. And it was probably about 2, 3 in the morning. My sister said, why don't we go lay in Dad's bed and get some rest? He's sleeping, he's quiet. We said, okay. So we get up in the morning, 6 o'clock, about 6 o'clock, and I walked right past them went into the kitchen to make some coffee and my sister got up and she

went over and checked on him and she yelled to me something's wrong dad is not responding to me so I went over there and I checked for a pulse I felt the pulse but wasn't thinking my father had a pacemaker in so of course he's going to have a pulse but in in that instance you're not even thinking. So I called Dr. Mayes on the phone and I said, my dad is, something's wrong. He's not breathing. In the meantime, I told my sister, call 911. So she called 911 and came and I was doing CPR on him. And they came in and they said, I don't remember the exact words, but they said, you need to get off your father now. We're going to continue. And I said, continue CPR on him, So anyway, they kind of whizzed me off, put me on a chair and said, you have to sit, you have to be quiet. We're going to work on your father. So they, they rolled him over and, um.

So the couch or on the floor at this point? I think they just rolled him over on the couch. Okay, continue. And they pulled up the shirt and he was all black and blue. So when you're deceased, you're blood. Right. see it's not circling but he still had the pulse going but that was the pacemaker making the pulse work so they made out all his pills out of the cabinet that he takes and they said he was short on his sleeping pills so i said well i took him to the doctor several times to dr zion and my father

was very insistent that he was going to take two sleeping pills a night and he told dr zion that dr zion looked at me and he said well that's really not the prescribed dose and he and my dad said i don't care i'm taking two sleeping pills every night so dr zion said okay i will prescribe it that way for you so i when the police said they told my sister we're short they made my sister count the pills. I said, just call Dr. Zion, he'll straighten the whole thing out because it's noted in his computer that he takes, he's taking two pills a night. So they then put him on the floor and they called the cremation place and everything set up. Right.

And they came out, put a flag on him, because he's a veteran, and took him. That's it. That's it? Did he get—what happened? Is he buried somewhere? Is my dad buried somewhere? Yeah. Where—

He's interned at Sylvan— Sylvan Abbey. Sylvan Abbey. Yeah. Okay. You said—you have kids, right? One daughter. One daughter.

What do you, usually, you know, people make mistakes, and I get that, okay? And when your daughter makes a mistake, you want her to be honest with you, right? Of course. Of course, and that's the way you raise her, right? So if she does something or she did a mistake, you want her to, you know, part of it, you learn from your mistakes. Isn't that how you raise her? so I don't think

you're not being very honest with me right now what do you mean? because that's not what happened with your father okay and you know that okay you know that

that's not what happened with your father so I want you to tell me again from the beginning what what happened with your father I don't understand what you're talking about the story the money is laid up for you the story that you just provided to him is not what happened to your dad what happened to my dad I want you to go back and walk through this one more time you need to pay attention to what's going on here okay what you said happened your dad is not what happened

your dad there's no one trying to tell you not especially what what what had what has changed that that didn't happen my father okay so this is this is what So I want you to think about it real hard right now, because your father, that's not exactly how it happened, and you know that. So I'm going to give you, because when I'm asking you questions, I already know the answer to it. okay and right now you were an odd and I I get you're nervous you're keeping this in and you're going with the same story that you had told the other officer when they originally came but that's not what happened they've been doing investigation and that's not what happened and you know that's not what

happened we're paying you to compliment of being upfront with you you need to pay us the same compliment and tell us who is giving you information other information ma'am you I want to talk here from you okay and I want to talk to you about it okay so I know what happened and I'm giving you the opportunity right now to talk to us and tell us your side of the story I know what your sister did, and I know what she did, and I know what you did. So right now, it's not to continue to tell us the story that you're telling me is not right. I get your father was sick.

He was ill. People make mistakes, okay? And I know everything, okay? From a trustworthy person, you know everything? Who's not trustworthy? Who's not trustworthy? Somebody obviously told you something that could possibly not be trustworthy. The person is not a trustworthy person.

And it's not Ted, for sure, I can tell you that. I know what your sister did, and I know what you did. I don't understand. I don't know who this person that you're talking about, but I know everything. Well, I don't quite understand who would say anything to you. Who is this person that is giving you this information? Don't I have a right to know that? They didn't leave a name.

They didn't tell you who they were. they gave us a very detailed account of what happened so I'm just trying to tell you there's no mystery about what happened they gave a detailed account yes I'm not bluffing and you know I'm not bluffing and I'm not and I'm being up front

with you okay and I know things and I just it's time right now for you to, you know, I know it's been weighing in on you all these years which would be understandable, okay? It would be understandable. That's normal to weigh in this much.

But I don't believe the person that told you is a trustworthy person and that... Who is that person that you're talking about? What are you talking about? You keep saying this person is not trustworthy. What person do you have in mind? A certain person that...

What is that person's name? Anthony Marsh. Then why is he not trustworthy? Well, you don't have his criminal background. You see that he's been in a lot of trouble. Okay, and what's your relationship with him?

When I was single, well I am single, I was seeing him for a short time. When did that start and when did that stop? It started in probably July of last year and I still continue to have seen him. Okay, so it's an ongoing, so it's still happening, so you're not historically past that. past that that's an in progress thing still happening you see him on a routine basis right well routine but i don't know what you call it okay i'm not going to split hairs with you routine with the definition of right you see him um frequently at least weekly okay weekly we'll settle on that that's fine and you feel that this person

Very untrustworthy. Then if he's so untrustworthy, why are you still with him? Partly for the same reason I was with Ted. Okay. What's your—let me ask you this, how do you—what do you think about, as your sister, you guys get along? Well, we have our whole life just got along. We recently had a little mishap in our life, but yes, we love each other very much.

So you love each other. So she— We left the apartment loving each other. Okay. And does she tell you everything? Oh, I don't know if she tells me everything. No. By everything you mean?

Everything. I mean— we talk but what's your relationship are you guys like best friends yes we're very close so you trust her yes trust her with everything yes i trust her and she trusts you i think so right yes that's the bond that sisters and siblings have especially sisters right yes okay so you know i mean you got to trust her right so you keep and i know what happened between you two the same between you two correct anything in our lives that happened to us anything that you guys do whether it's good

bad or the other. Having our children freed to part, yes. And her husband was abused to her, yes. They stayed between us. Yeah. So, let's talk about

your father again. Tell me about what happened that day. If you're trying to get me to say what Anthony told you. I don't... Anthony didn't tell me anything. i don't know who what you're talking about this anthony okay anthony is the only person

that we were joking around and things were said okay you mind if i step in other go ahead other than your sister correct other than my sister yes so your sister your sister knows what happened correct the real truth of what happened correct my sister and i are bonded together yes correct and you guys share a bond that is something that no one else can ever share correct correct okay And you said here that your sister is very trusting to you, right? Yes. I know exactly what happened that night.

So this is your opportunity. You have to tell me who told you something different happened that night. Who told you something different happened? there has to be someone who told you something I know I know about the drink but who told you okay let me just

walk you through this a little bit just to bring you up to speed the conversation that you had with Mr. Marsh we were listening to that conversation okay so we can cut to the chase that there was no joking

about this I have a digital crystal clear clarity so you can read between the lines I actually had the same clarity with your sister you talked to her? about an hour ago so I'm going to tell you one more time you're not going to come out on the end of this in a very good fashion

because you're not telling the truth about what happened we try to give you ample opportunity to tell what happened but now you know that I know what happened I want to know who told it i just told you that okay so we're going to cut through the bs agreed agreed okay now answer his questions and let's move forward with this okay do you understand i understand that you don't have to be rough with me ma'am i've given you three or four opportunities to tell the truth and we were very upfront with you and you're not being up front with us he he said

i'm going to be very upfront with you about what happened and you kind of disrespected him a little bit by not doing that i'm just trying to put us on the right path here do you understand that we will be fine but i can't have you watered off the reservation do you understand i understand okay so now let's walk through this again so talk to us a little bit now okay tell me my sister and i were lying in bed and my father was had dementia he was calling both me and my sister by my mother's name he was i mean i knew he was dying because he had this mask and his lung cancer and she said to me she held my hand and she said i can't remember the exact words but

but you can't let dad suffer like this. And we were both crying. And so she said, can we euthanize him some way to put him out of his misery? Who said this? I didn't hear that part. I don't know who said it. It was said, is what you're saying.

It was said. This way I understand what you're saying. And I said, well, he takes his double sleeping pills, so we could give him a few more sleeping pills, and he would just go to sleep. Whose idea was that? I don't know whose idea it was, particularly. My sister and my father had been fighting terribly that night. and my sister went home to her house and they had very very harsh words the night before. What kind of harsh words? He about he was he was calling her not nice names

saying that she I mean it's hard to remember exactly but they were yelling yelling. They had a yelling match at each other. So she did have an anger at that time. Okay. So then what happened? So I felt very bad for my father that he was suffering so bad. He was in pain. He couldn't breathe. He was having labor breathing. And so we took him for a ride to the beach. He He always wanted to go to the beach. And then we brought him home and she took the sleeping pills.

How many? I don't know. She probably put maybe 10, if I had to guess. Okay. And so big glass of, he always had a shot of vodka before he went to bed. and she made this big giant drink with the chicken pills in it. He drank maybe this much of it and he had his little St. Joseph currant tea wreaths at night and he dropped them and he lay down and went to sleep. And then what happened?

He opened his eyes, but then he closed them immediately after he opened them. And my sister said, he's obviously not, it's not working. He's not dead? Yeah, he had not died, right? How was he acting during this? everything was normal or was he off kilter, didn't have any effect on him at all or anything? Oh yeah, he was

semi-conscious I would say. Okay, understood. So my sister and I both said well we've started euthanizing him he's now he

understand you have to finish it now okay what'd you do so i just got a hand wash cloth who got the hand wash i believe i did but i'm not 100 sure where did it come from the bathroom okay and she held his nose and I put that washcloth in his mouth to block the airway and did he move around

was he trying to fight it a little bit he acted like he had to go to the bathroom is what the main thing I remember about it and he urinated did anyone hold his hands

i did not hold his hands did your sister hold his hands she may have to stop him from fighting or anything he wasn't fighting too much because he was drugged from the secret house but there was some movements there he did move his hands okay that's what we're She was holding his nose, and he stopped breathing, but he still had a pulse, but I didn't realize he had a pacemaker. I did realize it then, but it took me a while to realize why he still had a pulse, because he had a pacemaker. So then at that time when you realized once he had died, what did you guys do at that

time? Because this—what time did this happen at night? Was it in the middle of the night? Probably towards the middle of the night, yeah. Okay. Was there anyone else in the house? Yes, my niece. She was in that bedroom.

All right. What did you guys do to her? Well, we didn't do anything to her. She asked for a sleeping pill because she was having a lot of anxiety. And what kind of sleeping pill did you give it to her? Yes, I gave her one of my Ambien. But not one of his, meaning your father's? I don't believe it was his, no.

You think it was one of yours because you gave your own prescription? Yes. Okay. So let's back up here. So the night before, or was it the night before that you and your sister were talking about wanting to to do this yeah it was at night that she had the bad idea okay so you two are laying in bed and then you guys discussed about wanting to end his life is that correct I'm sorry I understand that no I understand that's

what's your thought process but there was a discussion about it the night before that this was going to happen this wasn't like a two-second thing you did there was some discussion because obviously you want to make sure your sister's on board with this I mean you can see that could be a problem so you talked about that's all I'm saying yeah okay I understand so then And whose idea was it for the pills? Well, I don't remember exactly, but she said, Dad, have sleeping pills. And I said, yes, sleeping pills would be the easiest, and we would just go to sleep.

Did you, what kind of pills was it that you guys gave him? I believe he took Restoril. Restoril? Every time. Did you give them any of your pills? I don't. I honestly don't remember because I had them for me. They were mine. So you don't know if you gave them your pills? Exactly. To be honest with you, I don't remember. I remember giving them.

She got it to work. I don't know who even got the pills the rest of the world. I know you tried when he woke up and opened his eyes and you guys went ahead and did the washcloth. Right. Prior to doing the washcloth, you used a pillow and it didn't work. Well, that I don't remember, honestly, using a pillow. So that, honest to God, I do not remember using a pillow. I'm honest with you about that. I don't remember ever saying I used a pillow.

I used a pillow. No, not. Not do you remember saying it. Do you remember the incident in which you used the pillow? That's a different question. I don't remember using a pillow. I just remember getting a washcloth. Well, because you tried the pillow first.

I don't remember. I honestly do not remember using a pillow. I don't remember a pillow being used but you did so when he was laying on the couch okay and he opened his eyes when you went to get the washcloth

where did you get it again his bathroom and where was your sister when this was going on she was with him was he trying to was he out of it or was he trying to get up

No, he didn't try to get out. He moved his arms. I remember that. That I remember. Now, is it true that he did not want to go to that group home? Correct. And was it a burden watching your dad? Because you guys had to spend so much time going there?

No, that was nothing to do with being a burden. he was going to be in a beautiful place he had insurance that covered it but he didn't want to go there they were going to have to put him eventually when he got there they were going to put him I'm sure when the Alzheimer's locked down

he didn't like it is what I'm saying whether it was the best thing for him he personally did not like it he was begging a lady Shirley's niece who was known to be on crack cocaine he was begging her to stay with him and take care of her

when we knew she was on crack cocaine I understand this, but the long and the short of it is that he was resistant to go in there. Regardless if it was the best thing for him, all these other collateral matters, he was resistant to go in there. Is that correct? He was resistant because he did not have his mind. I understand, but we're just walking through this. I'm just saying. I'm not saying that it wasn't the best thing for him.

We're not getting any of that. I understand what you thought it was, and maybe it was. I'm just saying he personally was resistant to it for whatever variety of reasons. He just didn't want to do it. No. Okay. That's okay. And was, so you and your sister were spending a lot of time there taking care of them?

Well, my niece was. And your niece? We were working. Okay. She watched them go to bed. But then when you get home from work, that's where you were staying? Yes. Okay.

And then what, I just don't, what made the decision to do this? What, why did it prompt that night? When the doctor called and told me that he had this giant mass in his lung, that was solid, and that he could live two weeks? Two months. Two months. You have no idea? I have no idea. That more likely was going to be fatal.

That's what I'm trying to say. And he was in such misery and mentally so out of it that, you know, the rest of the story. My guess is, let me ask you this. You must have been torn about this. I mean, you know. I was terribly torn about it. I understand. You had your father that's there and he's suffering.

But, you know, ultimately this was not proper or not lawful, let's put it that way. At the time, I felt I was euthanizing my father and helping him. I understand that. That is my honest answer, I forgive you. Okay, but looking back and looking at it, I mean, you're smart. You've got your certification with the, you know, for an assistant, okay, a medical assistant. You're a smart lady. I mean, do you think that's lawful for someone to do?

Take the morality out of it. As Anthony told me, no, it was not lawful. You don't, let me ask you this. You don't know independently of Anthony telling you whether that was right. Forget was it morally right or ain't, I'm just saying lawfully, you had to know that that was not lawful. It was legal to do that. No, I guess it is not legal to do that. Right.

Because if it was legal to do that, you would have came out and just told us what happened, and you didn't do that. you knew there had to be a downside to this he already told me that it was not legal to do what we did I felt I euthanized him and put him on his own I understand

no I understand but that's because you saw your dad was suffering I totally understand that but if you take that part of it out the act of just doing that is not lawful is what I'm trying to say this is where we're at that's why there's a problem okay that's all the songs I just assume let me ask

you this did you guys get an inheritance or anything from your father and how much did you get myself yes you got 110 but even between the three of you Yes. You, your sister, and your brother. Yes. I was the power attorney. So how much did you personally get out of it? I got no more than my brother and sister.

Everything was split evenly. And it was 110 split three ways. About that. Okay. And it was his house that sold. And then you got his house that sold. I didn't get it. It was split evenly.

Okay. So you had the house. You guys split the house. And then you got the house that sold. Yes. And then you got the house that sold. I didn't get it. It was split evenly.

Okay. So you had the house. You guys split the house. okay so you had the house you guys split the house in three and then 110,000 is that maybe I'm mr. said would you get a hundred did you eat you each take a hundred ten thousand a piece is that what you're saying my clear on that or about okay that's fine I'm just saying I think versus we're just a misunderstanding that you didn't split 110,000 you each got 110,000 is that

about that roughly i'm just saying just so we're clear on what we're talking about okay um now let me ask you what's your brother's name again no what does he know about what we just talked about here does he know any of this or does he just think this just went the way he never traded nobody the family knows your sister knows but that's it okay and no one else knows no Okay. And did your niece—what did you say to your niece in the morning when you guys discovered him? When you told him—

He said he had died during his sleep. Okay. Did he have any—did he urinate or anything like that during the process? Was that happening—when did that happen? Was it during—? Yes, it was when he was dying, urinated, which is normal. Is that when you guys were, when you had the rag over his mouth and your sister had her finger closing his nose?

Okay. Before we mention, before we got into kind of what I'll call the truthful section of what happened here, you said that Anthony was not a trustworthy person. Now, when you say that, my feeling about that is that you were trying to deflect what he was going to tell us, but I will tell you that it was spot on. So I'm just trying to tell you, your opinion about Anthony may be different, but it's not about him being untruthful about this, because I'm just telling you what was said was almost verbatim. Well, he was wired, obviously. Okay, this is what I'm trying to say, but you try to portray him as being an untrustworthy person as it pertains to this, but in fact, you know that's not the case, because obviously, you know, we heard verbatim, and he's not untrustworthy when it comes to this. Maybe to this, but other things.

Oh, he may be. I have no knowledge about that, but I'm talking about as it pertains to this. You were trying to lead us to believe that he was untrustworthy about this particular thing, and that's actually not the case. You understand that? Yes, I understand. Okay. And I'm not condoning any other behavior which I have no knowledge of that he's involved or not involved in as it pertains to this is all I'm concerned about. Do you understand what my question is? Do you understand that? Okay. So he came to you with it? Do you have, let me ask you this and I know this may be, are you basically, when you came and told us this right now, I know you're driving. Are you under any influence at all? Illegal drugs?

Yes. No. Okay. I never take illegal drugs. Okay. All right. I take my heart medication. I take my thyroid medication. I take my mild tranquilizer. That is prescribed by an MD.

I never have taken illegal drugs. Okay. And also, let me ask you this. The night that this happened, were you of sound mind and you were not on illegal narcotics? No, I understand, but you weren't high on a complete another set of drugs. You said you don't do that. I'm just making sure that's what we're talking about. Okay. Were you drunk? No.

Okay. So you guys made this decision to do this, to put like how you just told us here, here put your father out of his misery you guys decided to do that together yes we do okay okay um let me ask you something um would you like to chat with your sister i don't want to chat with my sister of course not okay all right well like i explained to you um it is this is not um you are going to jail today okay and you are going to be arrested all right i do need my heart medicine we're not going to yeah this is i don't have it with me i'm just going to pick it up at public all right so we'll make arrangements for that what i want

What you want to do is, I'm going to put your hands up, hang on, we're going to bring her sister in here, hang on, let me just get up here, this is not helpful. Just hold on one second. Okay, you want to, I'm doing this or doing that? No, yeah, do that. Just stick your hands out, that's all. Let me see if I can do this. This can keep your purse, you have no weapons or anything, I know you have a gun, but you don't have it in here.

No, it's in my car. It's in your car? It's in my car. Let's leave it, let's leave it, let's ask you that. I have to see what you're saying, because I don't know if you can understand what you're saying. I'm not questioning it, I can't hear it. I have to see what you're saying, because I'm like, I can't understand what you're saying.

I'm not questioning it. I can't hear it. Your sister's in the room next door. All right. We're going to bring her in, and you guys can have a little conversation. Are we recording? Everything is on? If you want a conversation, it's not. I mean, I'd just like to know if I'm on camera and I'd be recording. I understand.

I think that might be right. Hi. There we go. I'm going to take a time someone to tell us about your sheriff's office. Just make sure you don't have anything on you. Yep, just make sure she's got nothing on you. You've got nothing on you that's going to hurt me, poke me, or stick me? I have sunglasses on.

That's okay. You can do it with sunglasses, but nothing that's going to hurt me, poke me, stick me? No. Nothing illegal? No. Okay. Just fake pockets? Fake pockets.

Nothing in your brow, nothing that's going to, no, okay, just got to check, make sure you've got nothing there. I don't want my detectives hurt. Nothing else on you, nothing that I can't see, I'll have to see for you. Okay perfect, perfect. Just had sunglasses. Okay, just grab that. We're going to, what else is in here, it's pretty heavy, just regular stuff?

Open it, you can see what's in there. Okay. My wallet. Your phone, your phone, okay. Alright. All right, nothing in there of any significance. Okay, I do have my afternoon medication in there to take. Okay, that's okay.

I'm not taking it. I just want to see what was in it. No, no, we're totally fine. But I do need to take it because I have a memory of the heartbeat. When are you supposed to take it? We'll give this back to you, but you're not supposed to have it in here. Usually 1.30. I don't know what time it is.

About 20 after 1. I'll bring you some water. How about that? Okay, that's my wallet. Did you roll it? That's my wallet. All right. What we're going to do is, I'm going to bring your sister who's right across the street here.

All right, you guys just hang out for a few. She can sit here with you. Thank you. I'm going to bring her some water, too, so you can bring that. I have to give her some water because she's got some medication to take. You guys, uh, have a little alone time there? I'm going to use this. I don't know what to say.

Can I say anything? You didn't say anything to them? Yes, I had to tell them. And so did I. Because you told someone, didn't you? I know. It's because I thought I could trust them. I never told anyone.

I already asked. I already told them who it was. He came to my house. What do you mean? It. Why? I don't know. Thursday.

And you told me she was going to do this? She told me. And you just speak to me. Just give this shit out of me and my driveway. And my car. And the garage. Because I had to talk to someone very important. I had no idea what could be so important.

I insisted. I let him in the house. He told me what he told him. That he was trying to blackmail me. What do you mean? Have sex with him or he'll turn me in. I said, if you turn me in, I'm not having sex with you. When he came back, crying again, I just felt like, what are you doing here? What could you be doing here?

I can't tell if I trust him or not. I thought this was something I could wake up. I thought I could trust him. Why? I was having dreams, I was... Yeah, you weren't speaking to me. I had no one to talk to. You weren't speaking to me either.

Oh, look at us, we're going to jail. My life is over. So is mine. I thought about taking this string and hanging myself in the other room. Taking these out for here and hanging them in the other room and killing myself just now. Take them off.

What? Strings come out of my boots. Are you going to hang yourself? I was going to tie it so tight that I couldn't breathe. I don't think anyone has heard that you're going to be in a stomach of a lying chicken or a person. We know what we did, and we did it for a reason. I told him why we did it. It doesn't matter what you tell that monster.

I told the police why we did it. I told him why we did it. I told him I thought my father was a dementia and he was getting worse every day. He was uncontrollable. And he had gotten a call with the lung cancer. It's the truth. None of it's a lie. I know. You said it. It's the truth.

Anthony said it was my idea. He told him it was my idea. I told him you had argued with Dad the night before. We all had an argument with Dad. Dad called us back several times. Okay, but it was a bad argument in the house. A bad argument in the house? Over what? Because everyone wanted to eat something? No, because he didn't want to go work Well, he wasn't that wrong about us. That's the one thing that doesn't matter.

That has nothing to do with me. Do I know how to get my medicine? I don't know. My purse is in my car. They arrested me at work. Give me my purse. I mean, it's time for you to get your medicine. They have to let you take your heart medicine. For God's sake.

They asked me if I was on illegal drugs. I said, you're on what? Illegal drugs. I don't take any illegal drugs. I'm just getting my medicine. Can you get it for me? The jail will give you your medicine. Okay.

Of course you are, are you serious? Don't call your sister, it's okay, it's okay, I want you to calm down. I said, I'll tell your sister, I told her, I told her I wanted to call her. How could you call me? And he came to me over that night. I said, I'll tell your sister, I told you, I'm afraid of him. And he said he wouldn't turn around, he was safe, he was safe, he was safe, he was safe. He was wired.

He was wired? Yes. He said, how do I know you're calling me? I don't know. But the same story was told then and is told now. And as soon as I saw that picture, I thought it was beautiful. And the year I saw the picture of Dad, I knew. Now I'd like to know that too.

How do you know you're in fire? He told me to be a liar. I was the kind of person to be a liar. Oliver's alone in the house. Somebody has to take care of Oliver. You're worried about Oliver? I don't want to let the dog die. Yeah, I've heard about it last night, I know my life's over. I really do. Damn it.

Is that really what I told you? I'm going to buy it again? Yeah. What did you call me? I'm speaking to you. So what? At that time, we didn't know, we felt that he may have been a bad surgeon. He was going to go to chemotherapy. That doctor said that the tumor took up so long.

I mean, it doesn't matter. He may have been gone for a year or whatever. I don't know, I don't know what his fate was, what his dimensions were, but it was very, very bad. He didn't even know what he was doing. We would put him in a hotel. He wasn't going to last in the regular room anyway. We've already discussed this. And at that moment, I couldn't help but watch him die. He wasn't living.

He wasn't living in life. One minute he was in real life, and the next minute he wasn't in real life. Did you get any information from him? Yeah, it's freezing. I asked him if I could go to Japan. He said no. I've been here since 9 o'clock. Man, he only came to my work.

He's getting out of my car. the next minute he wasn't in real life I didn't know if I was supposed to call an attorney. I didn't know what to do. They said they had a person to ask me to answer any questions. I want you to look into this before I start now. And your mind is full of energy. I thought you could trust this man, the man who tried to steal from you, and everything, and things that he could do. You thought you could trust that person?

No, he said he was trustworthy. He was trustworthy? Well, he's a very good actor. Is it the same dream? I think there's something else to talk about, you know. All right. . They will be able to do it.

They will know, they will know, they will know, they will know. It is time for the morning to go to church and confess to him. Go to church and confess and confess to him. It is priest time. Now we are going to talk to the priest. We are going to ask him to come and talk. They've done that for every night. They don't know where to get more heart medication from me.

Well, I want my heart, I want my heart pressure medication too. And potassium, I'll die in three days. But they didn't ask me what medications I'm on. I'll die in three days without my medications. I can't go without blood pressure medication. I can't go without potassium. Do I want a pill? Can I buy a pill?

They didn't even let me take my clothes, my clothes is on the floor. My chin is completely under your arm. She called me, she called me and chanted, I just sat down here, because you don't know I was in the junction against 10. You were here? No, I was at 49th Street. Oh, they called me all the way home. What did they say?

They said, we're going to go before you do, you know. I don't know. I don't know your address. I don't get your phone number. I don't think you have your address. I don't know your name. I didn't text. I'm trying to get it.

Well, if you have a phone number, if you can look it up on your name, I'm trying to get it. I'm trying to create Mr. Honorable Hello We did what we did And that wasn't our situation, no one saw that in the movie.

I don't think that's the way, that's the way I, I may not make it right, but that's the way I felt. I couldn't watch my daughter suffer that way. It had nothing to do with his money. I don't care what they did to you, I don't care what they did to you, I don't care what My life is over. It seems mine. I'll be in prison the rest of my life, I want to keep the death sentence.

I know that, right? I don't know if they're trying to convince me that they haven't heard anything anymore. I'm surprised I always hear the same thing. I said, do you want me to just leave with you and I'll just say yes? Okay, you can leave now. Goodbye.

It's your world, it's your world, it's your world. Thank you. Why didn't you tell me that it was my idea? I don't remember some of the conversation, I can't remember, my memory is not very good to be accurate, so I particularly don't remember the exact conversation. That you had with him? He said, you told that it was my idea, and we know it was not my idea. We spoke about it, and we agreed about it, and I watched him, and I got her.

We had all recommended that we call the staff to that house. Called and said, who is judging you? to put him in the assisted living. We all had, we all, he called us all. We knew we all turned into attorneys. You don't remember when, when Jen did? She was halfway home to Dean's house that night. Chuck was there, he was closer to some chance.

By the way, he couldn't turn around. But that had nothing to do with it. It was watching Dad suffer the way he was, he had no life left, but perhaps it was not our choice to make that decision, and that is what we're here for. It wasn't our choice. We lived with him, we spent the night with him, we saw it. And from our perspective, that's really felt, felt it was better for Dad to live in peace than to try to go through a surgery and his mind keep getting worse and worse.

Thank you. I told you he was a trustworthy man. After all those things you said you hired a private detective and found out about him? Well, it was most of the assets and things like that. And they gave him prison. Well, I know that. Yeah, it's a check. But he's not the one that did anything right now.

Oh, yeah. But here's a rap sheet on the room. He did not. Holds over you until you're done, until you're dead. Thank you. You hit me that much. What you did? I can't breathe.

I was having a stroke and I was just dying. Do we get in the turn? We have your keys, because of where your daughter works, we have to make contact with her, okay? You want to give her these keys? Is that okay or no? Oh, yeah. And these are your glasses? Those are yours?

Okay, that's fine. So this will go with your property? That's it. with your property that's it just because if she has to get access to anything or do whatever she's a trustworthy person i could die we're taking you to the jail now we have a full hospital out the jail okay we have doctors they have every medication you can imagine we spend millions of dollars a year on medications out there yeah okay they will take care of you guys i promise you we have a building that triggers the most hospitals under the medical facility which outcomes and

okay okay i think that i can just get my lawyer to administer drugs and that's all right how about my job your daughter my husband is from the military we need to speak to them there's other people we need to speak with so that would be one of them also

you didn't ask my name my daughter did you we know your daughter we knew we had this background we just didn't tell you all that unless there's one we don't know about okay you just switch these out real quick

and thanks for us I'll keep them up front. Okay. These are yours. Yeah, that's another one. Is that right? Okay. How about a dog that's long in time?

Is there someone we can call to take that out? Okay. We'll get that. We'll do that. Okay. Put these in your bag right behind you. Like I said, keep them up front. they're going to be exactly the same they're hinged instead of chain i don't know if you notice a difference but it'll be it'll be pretty much the same thing i know what's your daughter's

phone number seven seven one three three one one keep your hand turned this way and her first name Yeah, just straight up and down. No, that's hers. Yeah, I got it. I got it. in there you hang under these these ones are the ones for the apartment the pink one opens the And then I'll give this to Anne, okay? All right, we're on board.

You're going to give all my keys to my daughter? Yes, I'm going to give this to your daughter, okay? I'm giving yours. Okay, I'm just making sure we're all good. Okay. Okay. Perfect. Thank you very much, folks.

Thank you, sir. And again, I'm going to double lock these, that way they don't sit down, okay? Okay. All right. Are you ready? Okay. All right. We'll walk down this way.

You got the purse. I'm gonna use this as you go with you. Is this yours? No, it's hers. It's hers? Okay. I'll make sure they know what type of jail. She has had a stroke.

Okay. They have excellent medical care. I know, but I think her walking down the stairs is- We'll walk down, we'll take the elevator, okay? Yeah. And walk on the side. That's why we're guiding you. We'll let you in, walk in, and then...

Oh, we're not? Yep. Right this way, please.