Criminology - Henry McCabe

Episode Date: September 27, 2026

In September 2015, 32-year-old Henry McCabe disappeared after a night out with friends in Minnesota. Hours after he was last seen, Henry left his wife a bizarre and disturbing voicemail filled with st...range sounds, moaning, and apparent cries of distress. Nearly two months later, his body was found in Rush Lake, but an autopsy revealed no signs of trauma or foul play, and his death was ruled a probable drowning with the manner undetermined. Join Mike and Morf as they discuss the death of Henry McCabe. Questions remain about conflicting accounts of Henry’s final movements, an anonymous letter predicting his body would be found near water, and mysterious activity from his phone in the days after he vanished. Although police eventually closed the case, Henry’s family remains convinced there is more to the story, leaving the circumstances surrounding his death a troubling mystery. You can help support the show through Patreon.We'd love to connect with listeners on social media. We are available on the following platforms:Facebook - Facebook Discussion group - Instagram - Threads - X Formerly Twitter - Blue Sky - Twitch - Tik Tok Criminology is an Emash Digital production hosted by Mike Ferguson and Mike Morford.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Criminology is a true crime podcast that may contain discussion about violent or disturbing topics. Listener discretion is advised. Hello everyone and welcome to episode 427 of the Criminology Podcast. I'm Mike Ferguson. And this is Mike Morford. Morph. What's going on this week, buddy? Not too much.
Starting point is 00:00:47 What's going on with you? I don't know. It's getting cold here, man. It's high in the 60s. And I don't feel it, but my family's like sitting in the living room. freezing they're all bundled up well i know you've got a nor easter heading up there this weekend and i think down here it's it's supposed to get into the 60s at night so i'm probably going to have the the sweatshirts out too well 60s at night is cool i'm good with that that's good sleeping weather
Starting point is 00:01:15 man and that one should get that florida blood it oh yeah that 60 feels like 30 it does change you i'm sure it does change you let's go ahead and give our patreon shoutouts we had support from Alexis Witt. So that's amazing. We really appreciate it. Yeah, thank you so much, Alexis. It really helps us out. And for anyone else that wants to support the show, head over to patreon.com slash criminology to get started. All right. It's time to jump into this week's case. And you know, every once in a while, we have one of those cases that just doesn't make a lot of sense. And it makes you scratch your head, almost like you're putting a puzzle together without all of the pieces. And that's what this case is like. The case involves a lot of strange details, a weird and unsettling voicemail, and while the case is technically closed, we really don't know everything that happened. We're talking about the bizarre 2015 death of a man named Henry McCabe. Henry McCabe was born and grew up in Liberia. During unrest in that country, he and his family left for Ghana, where he completed high school. After high school, Henry immigrated to the U.S. in 2003, where he was excited to start the next chapter.
Starting point is 00:02:28 of his life. He settled in California. It wasn't long before Henry would find love in his new state. In 2004, he went to a party where he met the woman he would marry, Corrine. They had a lot in common, including the fact they were both from Liberia, and they really hit it off. By 2015, a decade later, the couple was married with two young daughters who were 10 and 2. By this point, the family had moved to Mounds View, Minnesota. Henry worked there as an auditor with the Minnesota to Department of Revenue. Corrine was an author. By all accounts, the couple had built a nice life for themselves, and were looking forward
Starting point is 00:03:04 to the future. But in September of that year, a puzzling tragedy would unfold that would derail their future. On Sunday, September 6, 2015, Henry was alone because his wife, Corrine, had gone back to California to visit her family and had brought the couple's two children with her. Some reports indicate that she was making plans to move back to. and speculation is ranged from she was going to separate from Henry or that the family had financial issues.
Starting point is 00:03:35 It's not clear what she had in mind. But officially, police would describe her as going to California on vacation. One thing that is clear is that while his wife and kids were away in California, Henry appeared to be bored and maybe a bit lonely. That's when he decided to call a friend of his named Jonathan Thomas, who goes by J.T. when Henry called him, J.T. was at a barbecue, at the home of a mutual friend. Henry was upset that no one had invited him to the barbecue. So he called the host, and they told him he could come over if he wanted to. So he did. Once Henry got to the party,
Starting point is 00:04:15 he met up with another man named William Kennedy, who went by Papoos. Pappoos and Henry were not close friends like Henry and JT were. They were more like acquaintance. And more if I kind of understand this, you know, I've had stretches where my wife and the kids were away, you know, sometimes they go on vacation by themselves. I'm working. I can't go. It does sometimes get boring. You know, when you're at home for a week by yourself, normally the first day or two is awesome, right? You just have all this freedom. You can do whatever you want. And then very quickly, you start missing everybody and you get bored. But the thing I don't understand is calling up, you know, the person who's having this party and you're kind of like, why wasn't I invited? And then
Starting point is 00:05:12 what are they going to do? They say, hey, if you want to come, come, I don't know. I would kind of feel awkward. Like, they didn't invite me, but I'm basically inviting myself. Yeah. And it's an interesting point, we don't know the full relationship between Henry and the homeowner. We know that his good friend was there, JT. So it could have been one of those things where, you know, the homeowner didn't really know Henry, but he knew JT. But, you know, he maybe felt guilty and said, yeah, come on over. And I think for Henry, this was an important group of people because I think most of them were Liberian, and he probably felt, you know, close to them and had a special bond. So hanging out with them would probably be, you know, something that would make him happy while his family was
Starting point is 00:06:01 gone. But maybe even a little more strange that he wasn't invited. I don't know. And it makes you wonder, could there have been something, you know, that we don't know about that was going on, that he wasn't invited? As far as anyone could tell, nothing strange or unusual happened at the barbecue. It was just friends hanging out, talking, and having fun. The barbecue ended sometime between 10 and 11 p.m. It was Labor Day weekend, and the next day, a Monday was a holiday. So after the barbecue, Henry wanted to keep the party going. First, he and Pappooos went back to Henry's apartment. Pupus went because he wanted to go to the club later and had to kill time before he went, because if he went home, he'd have to stay there with his wife. So it was just the two of them at the apartment until they
Starting point is 00:06:45 left for the club, although Henry's nieces were there at the time. When they left, Papu strove. Just before 11.30, Henry walked up to the drive-up ATM at TCF Bank in Northtown. He withdrew $200 from his account. Surveillance cameras would reveal that he was visibly unsteady as he walked. And he actually urinated in the corner and then ran across the parking lot out of frame. We know he wasn't running away from anything or anyone because this is not when he disappeared or met any kind of harm.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And no one else was captured in the footage. After the ATM withdrawal, Henry and Pappus ended up at Club Selavi, which was inside a bar called Povliskes on Highway 65. So it sounds to me more of that, you know, just based on the description of him in the surveillance footage. You know, he was probably pretty intoxicated by this time. I mean, he had been at a party, a barbecue, most likely drinking. Now it's, you know, getting close to midnight. He's visibly unsteady. He's urinating, you know, near this bank ATM somewhere. It's safe to say that he probably had some alcohol in his system.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Yeah, we don't know how regularly he drank or partied, went out to clubs, that kind of thing. But it was, you know, the weekend, a holiday weekend. He didn't have to work the next day, presumably. His family's gone. So, I mean, I can see him letting off some steam, having a little bit of fun and, you know, sleeping in the next day, maybe something along those lines. Henry called his friend J.T. and talked him into coming out to join them at the club. J.T. took him up on the offer and headed to the club along with his club.
Starting point is 00:08:40 girlfriend. When J.T. and his girlfriend got there, Henry was in the VIP section, and Henry apparently gave J.T. his wallet, saying he deserved it because he had missed J.T.'s birthday. A bit later, he told J.T. to pay for a round of drinks with the card in his wallet. When J.T. tried to pay, the purchase was declined, so J.T. used some of the cash that was inside the wallet. At that point, J.T. went to tell Henry about the card declining, but he couldn't find him. This was around 1.30 a.m. That doesn't seem like something nefarious had happened to Henry. It was more likely a case of a busy, dimly lit club where it's hard to find someone. And you know, back in the day when I used to drink, I don't really drink much anymore, but you know, when I did go to clubs
Starting point is 00:09:25 and all of that, we would go, you know, as a group, friends at a certain point. Once there's enough alcohol involved, you got a busy club, it's dark. It can be. You can be. You. You know, very hard to find people. You know, I remember times where we just lost someone. But it's because they left, they went with somebody else, they did something, and they just didn't tell the rest of the group. Yeah, it's been a long time since my club and drinking days too. I was never really a fan of the club scene because of the, you know, the lights, the music,
Starting point is 00:10:05 the, you know, some of them were packed and you're rubbing elbows with. with people and it was just too loud and too chaotic for me. And if you did want to leave and you were looking for your ride or your friend to say, hey, let's cut out of here. Half the time you couldn't find them because it was so, you know, dark and busy. And, you know, it seems like this was a situation there. So basically what you're saying is you were old when you were young. Well, I guess, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I was a little bit of a fuddy daddy when it came to the club scene, I guess. Oh, do I say that again. When it came to the club scene, I guess. At 1.40 a.m. Another friend that was there that night, Calvin Johnson, saw Henry and Pippoo's leave together. This is the last time anyone other than Pappooze saw Henry McCabe. At 150, Henry's phone called J.T's phone. But J.T. didn't hear it and missed the call.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Shortly after that, J.T. left the club. J.T. was driving home when just after 2 a.m., Henry's wife, Corrine, called him from California. She said Henry was acting weird and she was worried about him and asked J.T. to see if he was okay. And J.T. assured her he would. J.T. then called Henry's phone and Henry answered. J.T. explained to him that Kareen was worried about him. But Henry said he was almost home and not to listen to Kareen. J.T. then called Kareem back and told her everything was fine because Henry was almost home. on the surface, you know, this all seems like a case of someone just having too much to drink and maybe not being totally coherent. But since Henry was almost home, you know, GT wasn't all that work.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And this is definitely something I remember more from my drinking days, my clubbing days, whatever you want to call it. You know, when people get a bunch of alcohol in them, you know, some people just don't handle it that well. And obviously, depending on how much you drink, it can be hard to communicate with the people. And some people definitely change. And not always for the better once they get a lot of alcohol in them. I just thought it was a little strange, right? That Henry saying, don't listen to Corrine to his friend J.T. I thought that was a little odd, a little cryptic.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I wonder if this is one of the dynamics, you know, in the relationship between Henry and Corrine, maybe she's a little bit more conservative and wants Henry to go home and go to sleep. And he's like, no, I want to cut loose a little bit. And she's in California. So she's a little bit out of, you know, pockets, so to speak. She can't really do anything. She's enlisting the help of J.T. to try and figure out what's going on. and, you know, he's relaying to her.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Everything's fine. Henry says he's cool. He's almost home. Don't worry about it. So I think at that point, she was probably relieved. Well, I think it's a good point because I'll tell you what. My wife knew exactly what I was like if I got too much alcohol in me. I mean, I was Frank to Tang.
Starting point is 00:13:24 So she would be worried in a situation like this. There was no doubt about it. But just before 2.30 in the morning, Minnesota time, Henry, called Corrine in California. She answered, and she could tell Henry was on the other line, but couldn't tell what he was saying. She thought he may have accidentally called her, like a butt dial. But the call became concerning as she could just hear what sounded like screaming and moaning. Corrine tried to make a three-way call, adding Henry's older brother Timothy on the line, so that he could try to help, but he didn't answer her call. The call went to voicemail,
Starting point is 00:13:57 and this is the portion of the call that we can hear in the following clip, which is a bit over a minute long. But it really demonstrates how strange the call was. So no doubt, Morph, that is a very strange voicemail, right? It's, you know, there's not a lot that you can really make out. But, you know, if that was someone you cared about, if that was a loved one, it's hard to think that you wouldn't be worried about them if you heard that. Yeah, I think we've all received, you know, sometimes butt dials where somebody is, talking and hear their TV playing in the background and you listen to just to make sure
Starting point is 00:15:29 that they're not trying to call you and then you finally hang up. So maybe she thought that's what this was at first. But when she started listening, you know, there's no doubt she would have been concerned about what she was hearing because it was pretty disturbing. And I go back to something that you said, right? She's in California. She's out of pocket. So that, to me, makes it that much more concerning.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I mean, you're pretty far away. It'd be different if you could just jump in your car and go to where you thought this person was. She doesn't have that option. Despite how strange that call was and being worried about Henry, Corrine ended up falling asleep, likely thinking that he would call her back and explain the call later, but he never did. No one had heard from him. His brother Timothy, after listening to the voicemail the next morning, was immediately concerned.
Starting point is 00:16:24 and reported Henry missing on the morning of the 7th. Timothy called Corrine and she left the kids in California with family and headed home to Minnesota. Officers went to Henry's apartment to perform a welfare check and found that it was unlocked. Henry wasn't there and there was nothing out of the ordinary at the apartment. No sign of a struggle, no note, nothing to indicate where Henry was. So this situation now has gone from a bizarre, phone call and now Henry's nowhere to be found. Police are at his apartment, but he's not there, it doesn't look like he's been there. And, you know, Kareem's so worried she comes home all the
Starting point is 00:17:08 way from California. And this seems like a situation that's spiraling pretty quickly and there's a lot of concern for Henry. Yeah, I can imagine the people who knew him, friends, family, his wife, they would be concerned. But what are police to think? think at this point, right? They go do a welfare check. The door's unlocked, which is a little strange to me because I always keep my doors locked, but it's not illegal. There's nothing inherently wrong with it. And Henry's not there. But they don't see anything that would denote, you know, further concern. He's just not there. Interviewing Henry's friends that were with him during the night before he vanished. Investigators found out that Papoose hadn't been planning
Starting point is 00:17:56 to leave the club with Henry or drop him off anywhere. Pappooce told the police that he was getting into his car to leave the club when Henry just got in and asked him for a ride. Pupus said he dropped Henry off at a gas station. He claimed it was a super America located on 73rd Avenue Northeast and Minnesota Highway 65 in Fridley. But no one in the area could remember seeing Henry there. And when police check the gas, gas station surveillance footage, there was no sign of Henry on it. So police at this point, it seems, had some interest in Papua's story, since it didn't seem to line up with the surveillance footage. The question was, did Papu's get confused and
Starting point is 00:18:36 give police the wrong gas station after having too much to drink, or did he play a role on Henry's disappearance? Police then were able to gather Henry's cell phone activity and found that his phone last pinged in or near Creekview Park in New Brighton. It seems this location is where he was when the recorded call took place, which makes some sense with what we'll learn in a bit. But this is miles away from the gas station. Pippoo's claimed he left Henry at and nowhere near Henry's home. Investigators reached out to contacts in California and Liberia in case Henry had returned to one of the places from his past. Kareen and others told investigators that Henry was very invested in Liberia.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Siberian politics and wanted to run for president there someday. Co-workers noted that Henry wanted to move back to California. While all of this information was of interest, none of Henry's friends had direct info on where he was. And more of I want to go back to, you know, Papoose for a little bit, right? When you're the last person thought to have been with someone who is then later reported missing. Well, you know, obviously, police are going to want to talk to you. And then when you give this story that you drop the person off at a gas station, but no one remembers seeing you, you don't show up on surveillance footage,
Starting point is 00:20:10 okay, that's probably going to make you look a little more suspicious than what you even did before. But what if you had nothing to do with whatever happened to the person? I was just thinking about that. Like, that would be such a tough position to be in. Yeah, and it could just be simply not that he's lying or had anything to do with Henry going missing, but maybe he just mistakenly gave them the wrong gas station, got it confused with a different gas station. It could be something as simple as that. The political angle forced detectives to go down a rabbit hole.
Starting point is 00:20:48 There are reports that Henry's father was poisoned in Liberia during the war for political reasons. Henry was an outspoken person here in the United States, and he was involved with local politics. This caused concern that Henry's disappearance was part of some kind of politically motivated retribution. Henry was also once the president of a union, the Minnesota Association of Professional Employees. Investors also dug into a potential union-related beef that someone may have had with Henry, but neither the political or union angles panned out. There was no evidence that Henry's disappearance was tied to either. Investigators eventually found out that the last place Henry was seen
Starting point is 00:21:28 was actually at the holiday gas station. And Fridley, this is much closer to Creekview Park, the last known phone panel. The search was narrowed to the Fridley and New Brighton area, north of the previous search perimeters. once again, police considered whether Pappoo's had sent them to look into the wrong area, to misdirect him. But he wasn't from the area. And it was the middle of the night.
Starting point is 00:21:58 They had all been drinking. And Pupus told police he had been taking directions from Henry, who by all accounts, was intoxicated. So whether he drove to the wrong location at the direction of Henry or just specified the wrong location to the wrong location to the authorities, it isn't out of the question for him to have been mistaken. We also know what the exact wording was that Papoose used in talking to police, meaning that, you know, if he actually said, I left Henry at this store, located at this specific intersection, or if he just simply mentioned a gas station, and then agreed with authorities, local to the area, started filling in the gas,
Starting point is 00:22:44 trying to be helpful. But the wrong location of the gas station wasn't the only reason people felt Pappooos might know more about what happened to Henry. Pupus said that Henry accidentally left his keys in a couple of his car, and that neither of them noticed. So Henry had no keys and no wallet
Starting point is 00:23:01 since he had given it to JT, and he was dropped off at a random gas station. How likely is it that Henry would ask to be dropped off at the gas station instead of just asking to be dropped off at home? Some people think that maybe for some reason, reason. Henry didn't want Pupus to know where he lived. And if that's the case, then why? Did Henry know something about Pupus that he was worried about? And if so, why would he go clubbing
Starting point is 00:23:25 with him? I think this demonstrates a little bit more that Henry and Pappus knew each other, but they weren't good friends like Henry was with JT. So I don't think they were able to put a lot together about the relationship and it opens up speculation, what did Henry know about this guy that he might not want him to know where he lived? That would seem to indicate something shady. But, you know, as we just mentioned, if Henry knew something about Pupoose that was shady, why would he go out clubbing with him? So it almost makes me doubt that there was anything shady at all. But it all adds to the mystery, right? Of this case, and you have to ask all these questions. in online forums discussing the case,
Starting point is 00:24:13 Papoose isn't the only one. People are suspicious of JT gets a lot of suspicion to. According to Pappoose, JT effectively cut Henry off that night by taking his wallet so that he wouldn't be able to buy any more drinks. But JT said Henry insisted that he take it. So, you know, the question is asked. Why would either of them lie about how Henry and his wallet parted ways? Also, J.T. isn't the one who had his keys.
Starting point is 00:24:48 He wasn't the last person to see him a lot. That person was still papoos. The Minnesota Community Policing Services, a non-governmental nonprofit unrelated to any police department, initially offered $10,000 reward for information regarding Henry's whereabouts. But according to the Star Tribune, in the middle of October, the group's chief executive, David Singleton, took back the offer because of what he called Corrine's willingness to mislead the public. To this day, we don't know just what that statement meant. It certainly seems to be implying that Corrine knew more than she said or was outright telling lies. However, Corrine's side of the story, which is somewhat supported by police reports, is that she stopped working with David Singleton because she,
Starting point is 00:25:35 she apparently felt that he was being inappropriate to her and not because she had something to hide. Singleton denied her claim of being inappropriate. And David Singleton isn't the only person to have some kind of falling out with Corrine. Gregory Evans, who at the time ran a website called Hacker for Hire, was contacted by Corrine, who hoped he could find Henry's whereabouts by following his digital trail. he became so suspicious of the public story surrounding Henry's disappearance that he actually started his own podcast. His website and the podcast have since been taken down. Many speculate he feared legal action from Corrine after heavily implying she had something to do with Henry's disappearance.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And importantly, Henry's brother Timothy started to suspect that Corrine wasn't telling authorities everything. I think we should point out that one of the main things making him suspicious was that Corrine told investigators she felt that Henry was still a lot and may have gone back to California or Liberia and it's important that police have never named Corrine as a suspect in the case and they have stated they verified she was physically in California when he vanished. So there's no doubt, morph that more than more than more. one person was suspicious of Kareen. You know, you have this David Singleton guy who's saying, you know, his group is going to offer
Starting point is 00:27:12 up a reward and then reportedly takes it back because he's saying that Kareen is misleading the public. You have this Gregory Evans guy. I don't know. I mean, you know, the saying, where there's smoke, there's fire. is a saying for a reason, but, you know, the authorities seem to have vetted Kareen and, you know, have never named her a suspect or anything like that. So I don't know what you make of it.
Starting point is 00:27:46 When you're married to someone that goes missing or they're murdered, they meet with foul play, whatever the situation, police always are going to look at you first and have to consider you. I think in Corrine's case, she had an airtight alibi being in California. That doesn't mean she couldn't have played some kind of role in Henry disappearing, but as far as her doing something to him directly, you know, we know she's ruled out because she was across the country. One of the strangest clues police had to work with was the mysterious voice message.
Starting point is 00:28:22 There are plenty of theories out there about why Henry was making the strange sounds on the voicemail. Many of the theories have Henry being attacked by at least one other person and tortured in some way, either being drowned, being water-boarded, being strangled, or even being tased. The sounds he was making were, to many, almost inhuman, and sounded like he was in agony. According to J.T., during their last phone call, just 15 minutes before the voicemail, Henry sounded fine. He didn't say anything that wasn't making sense, and he didn't sound like anything he did in the recorded phone call. This has led some to speculate that Henry was drugged or poisoned due to how rapid the onset of his incoherence was.
Starting point is 00:29:04 But the effects of alcohol can come on quickly, especially if you drank somewhat quickly. Yeah, I mean, the effects of alcohol can, you know, hit you pretty quickly. But it's hard for me to think that Henry could have a phone conversation with JT and sounds, you know, fairly fine. and then 15 minutes later leave, you know, this really strange, incoherent voicemail. 15 minutes is a very short period of time more for it just to be the effects of alcohol to change that much in 15 minutes. That's kind of tough to buy. Yeah, that would be alarming for someone to change that rapidly.
Starting point is 00:29:53 But I also have to wonder how co-concess. coherent and sober was J.T. If he was really intoxicated, too, maybe he wouldn't have even realized that Henry was, you know, making all these weird sounds or being abnormal, you know, acting strangely because he might have been intoxicated. So I wonder what his clarity level was. We mentioned that Henry's case has talked about on online forums. And, you know, let's face it, people jump to conclusions a lot of times. on those sites, the fact that Henry's wife and children were in a different state at the time of his disappearance makes some people think that Henry knew his life was in danger.
Starting point is 00:30:37 So he sent them away to protect them. One theory is that he was about to uncover something major during an audit or that he had recently discovered something someone wanted to keep hidden, something they might kill for. But Henry hadn't been working as an auditor for very long. He wasn't one of the higher-ups at work. And it's unlikely that the kind of work he did would uncover a scandal so great that someone felt they had to kill the auditor to keep the secret. Online sleuth also jumped on the fact that Henry had, according to the Star Tribune, used the alias, Joseph B. Tuckoo. The obvious question was, why would he have an alias?
Starting point is 00:31:22 Was he involved in something shady? it may be more common than most people realize for people to assume a new name when they move to a different country, especially if their birth name is hard to pronounce or would make them stick out. People in the United States would be used to a name like Henry McCabe, which is more common and may be easier to pronounce than Tuku. Yeah, and that's an interesting take, right? As a person who was born in the U.S., I've lived my whole life here, the thought of needing an alias is, laughable. I mean, I would never need one. But if I came from another country and I had a, you know, a name that made me stick out in the new country where I was moving, maybe it was hard to pronounce. Maybe he just wanted to change. He wanted a different name. I don't know. Yeah, from what I understand, it is very common that people will, when they move to America, take on a, uh, a more traditional American name.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And that might have been what happened here. But when, you know, a strange case like this happens and you're missing, people look at every little thing and wonder if there's something more to it. Well, yeah, because in a case like this, right, you're grasping for straws, especially when you look online. People are analyzing every little thing because they're trying to, you know, crack something. They're trying to find that one nugget that is going to answer some questions. On October 2nd, 2015, almost a month after Henry vanished, an anonymous letter was received by the New Brighton Police Department.
Starting point is 00:33:06 It said that Henry McCabe's body was partially buried near water and that a search and rescue dog would be needed to find it. It also said that there was a young woman who had seen that. the burial, but was afraid and could only come forward if she could remain anonymous and authorities could assure she would be protected. Now, it's not clear if police didn't take the letter seriously or not, but it seems as if no search for Henry was done. In response to the letter at the time, another interesting clue came into police when it was discovered that after Henry's disappearance, his work hot spot was still being used. They thought Henry might be accessing it and was still out there someplace, but it turned out that the hot spot was left at the McCabe home.
Starting point is 00:33:59 His nieces had connected to it to play video games. This was a big letdown for police. But a month later, answers would finally come. Unfortunately, so would more questions. Around 4.30 p.m. on November 2nd, just short of two months since Henry had vanished, authorities in New Brighton received a call about a body in Rush Lake. Someone had been kayaking when they saw what was unmistakably a dead human body floating face down in the water. Due to decomposition, dental records were needed to confirm their person's identity,
Starting point is 00:34:34 but police believed early on that it could be Henry McCabe, since Rush Lake was only about three miles away from where Pupus dropped him off. This now brought the anonymous letter sent to New Brighton police, telling them to look for Henry near water, back into the fold for investigators. Because this body had been found in New Brighton. Police tried to retrieve prints and DNA from the envelope that the letter was sent in, but came up empty.
Starting point is 00:34:58 But let's go back to this anonymous letter. What did it really say? Henry McCabe's body was partially buried near water. Okay. I mean, that's not super, super specific. Now, I don't know how many bodies of water are in this area. there are a lot of lakes in Minnesota. There's a lot of water.
Starting point is 00:35:23 So when we say that, you know, police didn't just kind of jump on it, is it because they didn't know where to start? It seems like they took some interest in that letter once this body was found in the water, the body that they thought would turn out to be Henry's, and they took these steps to try and ID the letter sender. Unfortunately, they couldn't do that. Yeah, well, it's going to take on even more significant. right after a body is found and I don't know the geography of the area rush lake might be the
Starting point is 00:35:55 only body of water you know in that area but how big is it and where do you start looking yeah I think if that letter had said his body's at rush lake then that would be a lot more compelling but also more for me, who is this young woman who, as described in the letter, had seen the actual burial, but was afraid to come forward? And then also, how was there a burial when this body is then later found floating? Did it, you know, surface? Was it not buried very deeply? Did water, you know, expose it? And then it ultimately ended up. up floating. A lot of questions here. Dental records confirmed that the body pulled from the water was indeed Henry's.
Starting point is 00:36:51 According to the Ramsey County Medical Examiner's Office, there were no signs of foul play and no trauma to the body found during the autopsy. The coroner ruled the death as probable drowning and his official manner of death as undetermined. As a result, the New Brighton Police Department did not consider his death suspicious. Backing up the lack of suspicion by police was that Henry was found with cash and his cell phone in his pocket. And he was still wearing designer shoes, a watch, and a 14-carat gold wedding ban. So a robbery gone wrong seemed very unlikely. A toxicology test run on Henry's liver or tissue found no drugs of any kind in a system.
Starting point is 00:37:38 There was alcohol detected in a system, but the medical examiner was unable to determine his actual level of intoxication at the time of his death. The decomposition process creates ethanol after death, so trying to figure out a person's blood alcohol concentration at the time of death is tricky. Add in the fact that the body was decomposing in water, which can dilute the tissues and make the alcohol content drop. so we had multiple factors changing the amount ultimately detected by the toxicology test. But how important is it now, you know, to look back on some of the surveillance footage, right?
Starting point is 00:38:13 We talked about it. He appeared to be, you know, pretty heavily intoxicated in some of the videos. Now, does it make it more likely for someone to have an accident near water when they're intoxicated? And I think the answer is definitely yes. But then you have to ask the question. Why was he out by, you know, this lake in the first place? Yeah, I think we mentioned that it was, what, three miles from where they determined that Pupu's dropped him off. So did he walk three miles while he was intoxicated?
Starting point is 00:38:50 How likely is that? Yeah. So let's go back to our younger selves, right? And everybody listening can do the same. I don't know after a hard night of partying that, you know, one of my thoughts was ever, I'm going to walk three miles and hang out by a lake. I just don't remember that ever being a driver or something that would pop into my head. Yeah, I was a kind of person that would be looking to sit down on a park bench and go to sleep or something like that and not walk three miles.
Starting point is 00:39:26 The autopsy report notes that Henry was missing tooth number three, which people assume is one of his front teeth. This is suspicious to a lot of people because his friends at the club surely would have noticed that he was missing a tooth, which means it had to have happened after he was dropped off. But tooth number three is actually toward the back of our mouths. depending on how big Henry smiled or open his mouth, it may not have been noticeable. It could have been missing long before he died. One thing does stand out is quite odd to many people. Henry's cell phone was found in his right pocket.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Its battery had been removed and was found in his left pocket. That doesn't happen naturally from being submerged in the water. That had to happen before he entered the lake. And as we'll discuss, call logs prove the battery was still. on the phone until September 10th, four days after Henry vanished. The call we heard isn't the last activity made from Henry's phone. His phone placed a call to the same number 24 times on September 7th and then once on September 9th and September 10th. The calls on the 7th started around 3.30 in the morning, so an hour after the mysterious voicemail we heard. So it seems this couldn't be a
Starting point is 00:40:46 drunken accident in the middle of the night where Henry fell into the water while drunk shortly after who's dropped him off? Where was he until at least September 10th? And if Henry didn't die at 2.30 in the morning days earlier after a night out of drinking, then how and when did he end up dead in Rush Lake? And to me, Morph, this is a huge mystery in this case. You know, from everything that we've talked about, it made it seem as though, you know, Henry most likely died that night.
Starting point is 00:41:19 But now you have this strength. phone activity. And that has to be analyzed. The phone making calls, someone using this phone to make calls up to four days after Henry was last scene. Well, what does that mean? Was Henry placing calls? Was somebody using his phone to place calls?
Starting point is 00:41:47 if it's the latter, then that means somebody at some point had to pull the battery out, stick the battery in one of his pockets, and stick the phone in Henry's other pocket. Yeah, this has been a pretty strange case up to now, but this, to me, is the strangest part of it because we have to assume it's Henry making the calls or someone else. if it's Henry, where was he for those days that he was missing? If it's someone else, who is it? And how did they have access to his phone? Yeah, because I think in some instances, right, you could theorize that somebody just happened to find a phone.
Starting point is 00:42:33 And they just decide to use it. But that would be very unlikely here that an innocent person would have found the phone. and then it later ends up in Henry's pockets. According to police, the number Henry's phone kept calling, belonged to a woman in Texas. By the time investigators called it, the number was no longer in service. Now, it's unclear if it was already out of service
Starting point is 00:43:01 when Henry's phone was calling it or not. There are rumors that Henry was having an affair with a woman from Texas, but it's unclear if he was. and even if he knew the woman whose number was called. And again, we technically don't know that it was Henry who was making those calls. Even if it was him, it's not clear that he was intentionally calling the number or was but dialing. But it does open up some possibilities that either Henry was alive and well days after he was last seen and was able to use his phone or that someone else had access to it,
Starting point is 00:43:40 used it, and then placed it on Henry's body before it was pulled from the river. One theory is that Henry was despondent and had taken his own life. Digging deeper into Henry's life, it looks like he was in some kind of trouble. Maybe nothing dangerous, but he was certainly experiencing some financial issues. It was apparently broke, and one of his recent rent payments had bounced for insufficient funds. He had also been struggling at work and had received the negative performance review. coworkers were aware that Henry wanted to move back to California, and we mentioned earlier that there's not clarity on the situation between Henry and his wife and whether they plan to stay together. It's also unclear of what was going on at work.
Starting point is 00:44:22 It seemed that Henry was generally well-liked by his coworkers and liked to cook to be able to bring in food and share with them. Everyone at work had good things to say about Henry. Police officially closed Henry McCabe's case. after finding no evidence of foul play, to this day, many people are puzzled by that choice, especially after the cell phone usage and battery removal that we discussed days after he vanished. It seems likely that police think that he was a lot for a few days before he wound up dead in the water, either on accident or as a result of suicide. Henry's family members do not believe that his death was an accident.
Starting point is 00:45:05 His wife, Kareen, told the spokesman recorder, someone did this to him. And his brother Timothy said, I believe he was murdered. Sadly, Henry's mother was not able to attend his funeral. She wasn't granted an expedited visitor visa to be able to enter the United States. So she was in Liberia during the services. It seems like the biggest clue in the case is the strange voicemail from Henry. But it's only led to more questions and a lot of debate. The audio has been enhanced and listened to over and over with opinions mixed on what Henry said in the call, or if it's even Henry talking.
Starting point is 00:45:43 There are many different interpretations of what Henry or others could be saying in that voicemail. It's clear to everyone that someone is talking, but it's hard to pick out words. A lot of people agree that whoever is talking is clearly upset. It sounds like they may be crying or even sobbing and wailing, actually. Some people believe that they hear uncontrollable vomiting. It sounds painful and guttural. and that maybe Henry was being tortured or drowned. But after these sounds, there's more of what sounds like talking and more crying.
Starting point is 00:46:13 The call only ended because the voicemail timed out and cut off. And we keep coming back to this voicemail morph because it is an important piece of the case. You know, if what some people believe is true, which is Henry is actually being hurt, drowned, even killed on this voicemail, well, then that would mean it's not him making the calls for those days afterward. But if the sounds don't mean that that's what was happening, then it opens the possibility that, you know, he was a lot for, you know, three days or so after the time that, you know, he was last seen. And he could have been using the phone. Yeah, I think the key to solving this case may be those days.
Starting point is 00:47:04 after he went missing. You know, if anybody was able to come forward and say they talk to him, you know, face to face or directly, they know he was alive, you know, might help establish that it was him that could have been making those calls, but nobody's come forward to say that. And if it wasn't him using the phone, what happened? How did they have it? How were they making the calls? and then how did the phone and battery ultimately wind up back in Henry's possession?
Starting point is 00:47:36 So as we wrap this case up, I mean, obviously there are still a ton of questions, right? How and why did Henry McCabe wind up in that lake? When did he wind up in it? And if he was alive during the time his phone was being used for three days, where was he during that time? Unfortunately, since the case is closed, we may. may never get more information about the death of Henry McCabe. But I think it's easy to see, right? Why many people are fascinated by this case, there is a ton of mystery, a ton of entry,
Starting point is 00:48:15 and a lot of unanswered questions. And not just kind of simple, clear-cut questions. These are very strange questions or, you know, strange pieces of information that lead to questions. Yeah, some of the clues in this case are like something out of a mystery novel. From Agatha Christie, you've got this strange phone call that's recorded. You have the phone being used after he disappears and then winding back up. And then you also have this mysterious letter that tells police to look near the water. and then Henry's ultimately found near the water. So, you know, makes me wonder, was there something to this letter?
Starting point is 00:49:05 Did somebody know and maybe they didn't want to come forward, but they wanted police to be on the right trail? Or was it just a coincidental thing and it has nothing to do with Henry's case? And one thing that keeps coming back to me about the letter is the mention of a woman. And it says that she actually witnessed the burial, but she doesn't want to come. come forward unless she knows she can be protected. Okay, was there actually a woman involved? Or was that somebody just trying to misdirect the police? The other thing, more if that, we didn't spend a lot of time talking about. We brought it up was, you know, Henry's union ties, his political aspirations. Could some of those things had something to do with what happened to
Starting point is 00:49:56 him again, just adds to the questions, right? And the mystery. Yeah, I think if there was a clear-cut motive for why someone might want to harm Henry, it might lead to answers. But, you know, from all accounts, people liked him. His coworkers said he was friendly. He cooked food for them, brought it into the office. Nobody really had anything bad to say about him.
Starting point is 00:50:20 And I think that lack of a motive is only hindering answers in this case from coming. Yeah, because I always think motive is so important, right? If you can figure out the motive, most times I think investigators can crack the case or at least find the direction to head in. But when you can't find the motive, it seems to make things so much more difficult. And I think that's kind of what we have here. But no doubt, a big mystery. But that's it for our episode on Henry McCabe. As always, if you love the show, but haven't done so yet, take a minute, go out, leave us a review, a rating.
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