Criminology - Joanne Chambers
Episode Date: January 19, 2025In 1993, a stalker began to target 41-year-old Joanne Chambers, a first-grade teacher in Coolbaugh Township, Pennsylvania. The stalking escalated over time and the threats became more violent. All sig...ns pointed to another teacher who worked at the same school. Join Mike and Morf as they discuss the stalking of Joanne Chambers. This case has been referred to by some as the strangest stalking case ever. The police zeroed in on another female teacher at the school named Paula Nawrocki. But the details that emerge are so bizarre that they are difficult to believe. You can help support the show at patreon.com/criminology An Emash Digital production
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Everyone and welcome to episode 342 of the criminology podcast. I'm Mike Ferguson.
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Now that we have all of that out of the way, it's time to jump into this week's case and
we have a bizarre one this week.
This case has been referred to by some as the strangest stalking case ever.
It's hard to believe that what was revealed to have happened here.
here in this case is actually true. We're talking about the stalking of Joanne Chambers.
In 1993, a stalker began to target Joanne Chambers. At the time, the 41-year-old was a first-grade
teacher at the Cool Ball Learning Center in Cool Ball Township, Pennsylvania. She had been there
since 1989. She and her husband, who owned his own painting company, lived in Cool Ball Township
with their 10-year-old son. This was a small town. Actually, it's a fishing.
a municipality and back then had a population of less than 7,000 people.
Today, that community located 60 miles north of Allentown is home to about 20,000 people.
It sounds a little bit more of like the place that I grew up in.
You know, I refer to it as a town, but back then it was actually called a village.
That's how small it was.
It's much bigger today.
But, you know, those kind of small towns that we often talk about,
in some of our episodes are quite endearing to a lot of the people that live there.
You know, it's a, it's a different way of life when you pretty much know everybody in the town.
And I think something like this case that we're going to talk about, as bizarre as it was,
I think it was that much more shocking for this small community as opposed to it happening in a large city.
you know, we've got tens of thousands of people, it might not have been as noticed.
But here, it definitely was noticed.
Well, I think any type of crime is magnified in a smaller community.
Because like I said, you know, everybody knows everyone.
People don't expect that type of stuff to happen in a much bigger city.
You expect things like that.
You don't know everybody.
You're more leery.
of people than you are in this type of situation.
Joanne had a real passion for teaching.
She liked to make the information she shared fun for the children to take in,
and her specialty was helping the kids learn how to read.
She also liked to decorate her classroom so that the environment was more stimulating for
her students.
The plain beige columns in the room became colorful palm trees with some tape and some
construction paper, Joanne wanted each of the children she taught to feel supported and
important. According to Red Book Magazine, at the end of every class, she would announce,
you are wonderful and beautiful. You make my heart happy. Joanne's students and the parents she
interacted with all adored her, which made it surprising. When Thomas Kapetsky, the principal of the
Cool Ball Learning Center, began to receive negative letters about Joanne, beginning,
in July of 1993.
Some of the letters were mild and petty, with complaints about Joanne's wardrobe.
She would often wear jeans to work instead of skirt or dresses, which the author noted
with disapproval.
Another letter made fun of her efforts to set up a water fight between staff members
at the school, complaining that her time would have been better spent, applying for
the assistant principal position.
Soon, the letters would escalate in negativity, and the subject matter would get darker
involving sexual content and threats of violence.
It definitely seemed like whoever was writing the letters
with someone who worked at the Cool Ball Learning Center.
After all, how many people who didn't work there
would know about the staff water fight
and what Joanne were to work every day?
And I think I've said it before more,
but my wife is a teacher.
She teaches elementary school, young kids.
And, you know, some of what we were talking about
as far as Joanne kind of really hit,
me because my wife does the same stuff. I can't tell you how many times we've gone to,
you know, the, the hobby store or what, you know, some type of store to buy construction
paper and things just to liven up the classroom. A lot of people don't realize how much money
teachers spend on their own just to make their classrooms better for their kids. Yeah, it's good
to hear when teachers go the extra mile and it's not just a job to them. They
look at it as an experience for the children, something that they'll always remember and they
put their best foot forward to make it memorable for them.
But I think what really jumps out of you here is, so we're saying all of these great and
wonderful things about Joanne.
It seemed like, you know, she was a good teacher.
And then all of a sudden, these complaint letters start coming in about her.
And, you know, like you said, they were pretty.
petty. The water fight. She wore jeans. Okay. But that has to hit you kind of hard when you think,
hey, I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. I'm doing a good job. Who has a problem with me?
Yeah, and the letters weren't really accusing her for any wrongdoing, doing anything bad or
reporting her. They were just more of a, they seemed, as you mentioned, Patty, just to make fun of
her or paint her in a negative light.
So these letters were pretty easy to ignore at first because it was brushed off as just a
coworker who didn't like Joanne and they would eventually get over it or confront her to her
face.
They seemed harmless at first with messages like, seems to me she's bored and perhaps she needs
a challenge or a little disciplined.
Joanne in an episode of Forensic Files said, I just wanted to know who it was.
And I thought it was a thing that you could, you know, sit down with that person and talk it out, fix it.
It didn't take long for the letters to become much more personal and much more dangerous.
The letter showed up at both Joanne's home, at work, and even in the mailboxes of other teachers at the school.
The tone moved from simply disapproving of Joanne to wanting to destroy her.
The writer threatened, I can get you in one train.
cry. The one will ever prove it. I'm smarter than all of you, you stupid bitch. So we just got done
talking more of about how, you know, these letters seemed pretty petty. Okay. Who is this?
It's annoying. But now they have jumped and escalated to a whole new level. And if you're
receiving these letters, now you have to start wondering, is there somebody after me?
me? Is this person dangerous? Should I take them seriously? So that had to be, you know, extremely
nerve-wracking. In one letter, Joanne was accused of bringing marijuana to work and basically very
casually showing it off to the employees who were in the faculty room at the time. The letter was
anonymous, but this was a very serious allegation at a school and in the early 90s, marijuana use was
still very stigmatized and seen as a heavier drug than it is today. In March of 1994,
Another letter instructed the reader to check Joanne's desk in her classroom, where Jack Daniels could be found.
When Joanne checked in her desk, drawer, there was a bottle of Jack Daniels whiskey.
The writer wasn't just accusing Joanne of bringing marijuana to work.
They actually managed to apparently plant evidence that would strongly suggest that she was drinking on the job around children.
Another letter was really over the top.
Someone had taken a photo of a nude woman and put Joanne's head on the body.
and photocopied it multiple times.
The photo of Joanne was cut out of a photo that had been stolen from her desk.
Around the same time that the Jack Daniels appeared,
not only was this sent to the principal and to parents of the children who attended the school,
a copy was taped to the door of a local store.
At one point, when Joanne sat down at her desk and then tried to adjust her dress,
she realized that her hand was covered in feces.
Someone had smeared it all over her chair and the underside of her desk.
The writer not only humiliated Joanne in the letters, they soon physically harmed her.
One day as Joanne went to get into her car, her finger was sliced open by a razor blade
that had been taped in a hidden spot inside her door handle.
The cut was bad. It required eight stitches.
According to ForensicFilesNow.com, just over a week later,
Joanne received a letter that read,
You're Sliced.
I think at this point, this letter writer has crossed a line.
You know, it went from harassing letters to now they're coming on school property,
getting into the classroom, leaving alcohol.
If they can do that, if they can put razor blades under Joanne's car door handle,
now they've proven to be dangerous.
and with kids in the mix in a school,
this had to be very concerning for the school staff.
Well, and for Joanne as well.
You know, the one thing that kind of crossed my mind was,
you know, it's one thing to know that someone has a problem with you.
Let's say you're feuding with someone,
but you know who it is.
It's another thing completely when someone has a problem with you
and they're doing things to you,
and you have no idea who it is.
I think that would be very, very scary.
By this point, Joanne was living in fear.
The letters had gotten darker and darker,
and now Joanne had been harmed.
Joanne told forensic files,
I said goodbye to my husband,
like I wanted him to remember me saying goodbye.
She braced herself wondering what each day would bring,
saying,
I lived every day thinking that it was truly possible
that it could be my last.
The writer kept very busy.
letters were sent to parents claiming that Joanne was a lesbian,
which was less accepted in the early 90s,
or that she had AIDS,
which was far less treatable and much more stigmatized at the time than it is today.
Some of the letters also falsely informed the parents
that their child had been molested by Joanne
and claimed that school administrators were aware but could not prove it.
It was clear from the subject matter in the letters
that the writer wanted to ruin Joanne.
By the summer of 1994, officials at the Cool Ball Learning Center were ready to get to the bottom of things.
The letters had gone way past the point of being a harmless joke or prank.
A surveillance camera was placed inside of Joanne's classroom capturing footage of her desk in case the writer tried to take or leave anything else.
It was at this same time that the anonymous person stepped up violent threats against Joanne,
a pink box was left in front of the school.
Inside, there was a Barbie doll that had been styled to look like Joanne.
The doll was wearing a blue dress that resembled one of Joanne's,
and its long hair had been chopped short in a similar style to Joanne's haircut.
There was a razor blade stuck in the doll's throat,
which was covered in red paint.
A death threat accompanied the doll.
By the fall of 1994, the letters,
with Joanne's face pasted onto a new body, read, it's not over. You die.
One of the letters informed Joanne that they, whoever they were, had multiple chances to poison her coffee
and taunted her with the idea that it may have already happened. One letter read,
I had four chances to drug your coffee this week. Or did I drug your coffee? Bitch, you make me sick.
Looking back at the video from the surveillance camera, multiple staff members had been inside Joanne's room while she,
wasn't there, but only one of them had grabbed her coffee cup off of her desk and walked out
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The person caught on tape with the cop was Joanne's fellow first grade teacher, Paula Naraqi.
She had been working for the Pocono Mountain School District since 1975. Her method of teaching
was a lot more old school than Joanne's, and she was much more strict with her students.
According to the Allentown Morning Call, Paula Noraki had a record as clean as a new chalkboard.
Maybe she wasn't the most fun or joyful teacher, but she was effective and known to be good at her job,
and she had worked for the school district for two decades, with no issues.
Other teachers at the school became suspicious of Paula Noraki because one of the letters mentioned a specific nickname for Superintendent David Krauser.
It referenced Colonel Clink.
the character from the TV show Hogan's Heroes.
In the show, Clink ran the POW camp that the show centered around,
and while he always thought he was tough and smart,
the show's heroes always outsmarted and duped him.
Chester Holmes, who taught sixth grade at the time,
told the morning call that Paula Nauraki once said
that Superintendent Krauser's nickname is Colonel Clink.
More than one teacher also remembered that Paula
found the water fight Joanne when had talked about upsetting.
It wasn't so much a friendly battle,
as it was an ambush-style prank on the administration.
She didn't approve of it.
So I can see why people would start to be suspicious of Paula.
It is obvious more if that the two, Paula and Joanne had very different styles of teaching.
Paula was a little more old school, strict, stern.
We all had those kind of teachers growing up.
And then Joanne was a little more progressive, maybe, new school.
we most of us probably had one of those teachers as well then you have paula being seen grabbing
joanne's coffee cup and this reference to colonel clink pretty easy to see why people would think
it possibly could be paula making these threats writing these letters doing these awful things
and we talked about how this was a small community so it was very likely that word about these
letters was spreading and as soon as there was a name to go with it as a possible suspect,
you can imagine what the people were saying behind the scenes talking about Paula and bringing her
name up in relation to these letters.
The local authorities set Joanne up with a hidden recording device, often called a wire
and asked her to talk to Paula about the harassment, hoping to catch her off guard and get
her to incriminate herself in Paula's conversations with Joanne.
She didn't say anything that made her seem guilty.
She only expressed her sympathy for Joanne due to the situation and how inspiring her strength was.
In one recording, Paula said to Joanne, we're all amazed, Joanne, that you can be surviving through the whole thing.
I can't imagine how this person can do what they're doing.
When Paula learned that she was a suspect, she volunteered to take a lie detector test, thinking that it would prove her innocence.
In her mind, she had nothing to hide, so taking a polygraph exam couldn't do any harm.
She knew she didn't do it and was sure that none of the other teachers there could be responsible for their harassment.
She told forensic files, I was positive that it wasn't anybody in the building.
There was just no reason for any of them to attack Joanne like this.
Paula was upset by the entire situation and all the suspicion and rumors.
And when she found out that she herself was the main suspect, she was shocked.
And we've talked a lot about how Joanne must have been feeling, you know, scared, who's doing this to me?
But now you have to kind of look at Paula.
You know, if all your fellow teachers, if other people in the community, if the authorities start to believe that you're the one doing this.
And like you said, more of people are probably talking about it, what does that do to Paula?
How is she feeling?
And it's got to be a terrible feeling if you know you're not the one doing something you're accused of, but everybody else is starting to point the finger at you.
You've got to feel like the walls are closing in on you.
An attorney probably would have told Paula that it's never a good idea to take a polygraph when you're upset, which if Paula was really falsely being accused, she would rightfully be.
The test can't tell if your heart rate and respiration changes because the idea of being blamed for something.
something like this makes you sick, or if it's because you're nervous, that they will know
you're lying about being innocent, all it can tell you is that you fail. And this is all that
Paula learned after taking her test that she failed it. Paula told forensic files of the test
failure, it was very upsetting. I couldn't believe that it was making things worse instead of
better. But police weren't just interested in polygraphing Paula. They asked Joanne to take a light of
her test to make sure her story checked out, and she passed. All the other teachers who were asked
to take polygraph exams, just to rule them out, also passed theirs with no issues. Paula cooperated
with the investigation, trying to clear her name. She agreed to let investigators search her home
without needing a warrant to do so. They took her typewriter to compare the letters to documents it
produced. It was determined that the letters had not been prepared on her typewriter. Joanne was still sure
it was Paula, despite authorities not being able to find the typewriter in Paula's home,
that actually made the letters. When a car ran Joanne off the road on Interstate 380,
Joanne made direct eye contact with a driver. According to Joanne, it was Paula and O'Rocky.
Joanne told Forensic Files, she was looking right at me. I will never forget that look.
After the Interstate 380 incident, finally authorities felt they had enough evidence to act.
In January 1995, 42-year-old Paula Naraqi was arrested and charged, with 100 total counts of harassment, stalking, simple, and aggravated assault, making terroristic threats, and recklessly endangering life.
Despite her clean record, the community quickly turned on Paula. Paula's husband, Leonard, told forensic files, basically, we were isolated people.
It was just Paula, Leonard, and their son.
against the judgment of the world.
Leonard also said,
we felt like there wasn't a friend in the world.
When she tried to return to work,
other teachers would ignore Paula
and refused to socialize with her
during their lunch period.
Even school administrators gave her the cold shoulder
when she attended a school basketball game.
According to Leonard, they just seemed to scatter.
It wasn't just Paula's coworkers
who wanted to get away from her.
Parents of one student requested a class change for their children.
They didn't trust Paula to teach anymore.
Unable to do her job without causing trouble, she was eventually suspended.
At first, the suspension was with pay, but eventually she was fully suspended without pay.
Articles at the time were treating Paula as if she had already been convicted.
Paula told the morning call,
Every time you guys sit down to write an article, up at the top of your paper,
you ought to write the statement in capital letters, innocent until proven guilty.
and go from there, keep her perspective street.
Paula's husband would later say,
my first thought was,
my God, how did the newspapers find out about this already?
I mean, it was like less than 24 hours after she had been arrested.
The Narakis didn't realize just how much attention.
The case would receive in the news,
it stretched way beyond their small community.
After her preliminary hearing in February 1995,
they were hounded by the media on their way
back to the car. It started as they exited the district attorney's office. Leonard told the
morning call, as soon as I go to open the door, there's a camera right there. I would have parked
closer to the building. Paula said that people were interested in it was something that was
unbelievable. The Narakis had to change their phone number due to repeated hang up calls and
inquiries from nosy reporters searching for the scoop, including representatives from Jerry
Springer and the Montel Williams show.
So here we have this small town mystery and it grows sort of out of control from outside
the community to now you've got Jerry Springer and Montel Williams show reps calling you
to try and line up an appearance.
So that just gives a sense of how much life this took on.
Well, and I can't help but think of it from Paula and her family's perspective.
You know, if as she said, she didn't have anything to do with this, their life was completely
turned upside down. They went from, you know, living a normal, I don't want to call it boring,
but every day, you know, life going to work, eating dinner, to now being hounded by reporters
being accused of doing something pretty nasty. It had to be.
have been a really rough time in their lives.
There had been no more letters or any issues with Joanne since Paul was arrested.
This pretty much solidified the idea that Paul was the culprit in most people's minds.
But why would a respected, professional, and well-like teacher suddenly turned into such a
monster of a co-worker after so many years with a clean record of perfect behavior?
The only motive anyone could think of was that Paul was just jealous of Joanne for some reason.
Joanne was newer in the district and quickly became extremely popular with staff and students alike.
Joanne was just more fun and less stuffy, while Paula was described as someone who rarely, if ever, strayed from traditional teaching methods and followed rules verbatim.
Joanne believed in a classroom without desks and had an unconventional approach to teaching.
Maybe Paula was resentful of Joanne.
She had such a different teaching style.
Paula could have felt her methods had no place in their school, or she could have even felt angry,
that she couldn't find it in herself to be the carefree, fun and unconventional teacher.
These were the theories some people had, but Paula never expressed any of this herself.
She was completely blindsided by the accusation that she was stalking Joanne.
And before any of this happened, she thought they had a friendly relationship.
Despite having only circumstantial evidence and a very weak motive, the case against Paula went to trial.
Paula told the morning call, someday I'll be able to gloat when everyone finds out it's not me.
Paula, who made just $55,000 each year as a teacher, spent $7,000 to get evidence against her tested for DNA.
She also paid for a defense team and a private investigator.
Her character and reputation were at stake here, and in her mind, no expense was too great.
The envelopes with the threatening letters had minuscule amounts of DNA on the flap, where they were sealed,
as well as on the back of the stamps where someone had licked them.
To get enough of a sample for comparison, the DNA was amplified using the PCR process.
There was no match to Paula or Leonard Nalaki.
This revelation was not enough to convince prosecutors to drop the charges against Paula.
though. Luckily for her, the defense team she hired was able to dig up some interesting information
about Joanne's past that would help her.
The Carbondale Police Department disclosed that Joanne Chambers was known for reporting
various crimes. She had called about things like burglaries or fires multiple times in the past
few years. Paula's private investigator Jim Anderson told forensic files, they said every crime
that she's been a victim of has had some weird.
weirdness attached to it. Paula's attorney Phil Lauer told the morning call.
Ms. Chambers on 15 or 16 occasions has claimed to be a victim.
Former co-workers of Joanne's from the Lackawanna Trail School District felt that these
allegations were all too familiar. Nearly a decade earlier when she worked with them, and long
before meeting Paula and Iraqi, she claimed that another teacher had threatened to burn her
house down. Perhaps most damning co-workers there remembered specifically that she had claimed
someone smeared feces on her chair. And my thought morph is this had to be a pretty big revelation.
Now, what does it mean? That still has to be determined. But when someone says that you've claimed
to be a victim on 15 or 16 different occasions, that's a pretty high number. And then,
you have these teachers saying that Joanne had made similar claims in the past.
And specifically, the one about claiming someone smeared feces on her chair.
I mean, that is so very similar and odd.
Yeah, you have to wonder, what are the odds that yours later in a separate school district
that someone would do that exact same thing.
So I think this probably opens some people's eyes to the fact that, hey, maybe there's more to this story than it seemed like maybe Paula is innocent.
News that Joanne had claimed to have experienced such strikingly similar harassment at her old school district who was eye-opening.
When speaking to the morning call, Joanne's former co-worker, Jane Pardue, said of Joanne.
she carried tales that weren't true to the superintendent, and she tried to get us in trouble.
Another former co-worker from the Lackawanna Trial District, teacher Lois Rinda,
recalls that Joanne told wildly different stories about a time that she had claimed to have broken her leg.
Both versions of the story include the injury being caused by jumping out of a window,
but in one version, she was forced to jump out of the window due to a fire at Marywood College,
and in another version, she claimed that she had been studied.
to become a nun and was eventually forced to jump as she was escaping other nuns who wanted
to force her to stay at their convent. The details supplied from Joanne's old co-workers were
alarming, and if true, cast doubt on Joanne's claims about what she was experiencing at her new
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In an attempt to find a match to the DNA on the envelopes and stamps, which didn't match Paula or her husband,
private investigator Jim Anderson rummaged through Joanne's trash can after she placed it on the curb on collection day.
He collected a straw, used tissues, and a Q-tip with earwax on it.
The DNA samples taken from items pulled from Joanne's trash.
Match the DNA on the envelope.
that contain the threatening letters.
Jim wasted no time, getting that DNA connection put into evidence.
Joanne had an explanation for the presence of her DNA, where there should have been DNA from
her stalker.
Once, when she had been allowed to look over the evidence, the stamps fell off.
She simply licked the stamps to reattach them.
That's all.
That doesn't really explain how her DNA was on the flaps, where you lick the glue to seal the
envelopes, though. She would also
claim that she used a glue stick
to reattach the stamp, since
it's actually pretty
impossible to reattach
a stamp by licking it.
However, analysis of the stamps
showed only the original
adhesive. There was no glue stick
residue present.
There was a very slim chance that
a third party had licked the stamps.
The odds that the DNA
was someone other than Joanne
was one in 14.4.4.4.
14,925 in a small town in the Poconos, that's enough to say. It was definitive, but it's a lot
smaller of a number than we hear in many cases today. A lot of times nowadays more, if we're talking
about one in 32 trillion or something like that, that's just how far DNA is advanced. Yeah,
But even at this smaller number, it's literally twice the size of this, the residence of this community.
So it's still a pretty big number for this scenario.
But in spite of that, the trial continued.
The jury was initially on Joanne's side.
One of the jurors told forensic files, I felt so bad for this woman, this poor thing,
to have had to go through all these terrible things.
But once the defense presented their case, things weren't in Joanne's favor.
Paula told the morning call of the evidence against Joanne.
I couldn't believe that I was sitting there hearing what I was hearing.
After two hours of the deliberation, the jury returned a verdict of not guilty.
They did not believe it was Paula who had threatened Joanne.
As they exited the courtroom, some of the jurors actually hugged Paula and gave her words of encouragement.
Or hurts her with you, one juror told her.
Some of the jurors felt that investigators had botched the investigation from the start.
juror Harry Astana told the Pocono record, obviously she paid a very, very high price.
And there's no doubt that Paula paid an extremely high price.
Now, she was vindicated in some respects.
And the reason I say that is because as we've heard many times, more, you know, once you're accused of something,
and especially once you're charged and,
you know, tried for something. A lot of times, that's all that people remember. They may not even
know that you were acquitted. And so, you know, does that stigma completely go away? Yeah, to people who
really know her, but all around town, maybe not. And then the other thing is, you know, the financial
price that she paid. And I think about this a lot, you know, people, you know, people,
can be charged fairly easily and taken to trial fairly easily. And yeah, it's great if you
beat the charge, if you're acquitted. But you're not getting your money back for, you know,
paying for your defense and, and all of that. So even though you're acquitted, it takes a terrible
toll on someone to have to go through this. Yeah, Paula paid the price financially. She paid with her
reputation could never be the same. And then you probably still have that group of people
who, despite the not guilty verdict, probably whispered behind the scenes, oh, I think she really did
it, though. So you probably have some of that going on. So it seems unlikely her name,
her reputation would ever be back to what it was before all this happened. So Paula had been found
not guilty, but this wasn't the end of her troubles. Despite being found,
not guilty in a court of law. She still had her employer to deal with. In 1997, she was the subject
of an investigation by the Pocono Mountain School Board due to supposed immorality, accusing her of
school code violations. According to the morning call, there were months of school board hearings
that were peppered with audience cheers for Paula Noraki and jeers for Joanne Chambers. Finally, Paula
cleared her name and was allowed to return to work.
Paul filed a lawsuit against Joanne, the Cool Ball Learning Center, and the Cool Ball
Township Police Department asking for $9 million in damages.
Joanne settled, agreeing to pay $25,000.
She claimed to want to move on with her life and she didn't want to pay for the defense
team it would take to fight the lawsuit.
This is something that Paul could certainly understand, having been forced to pay $100,000
for her criminal defense team, a private investigator, and the DNA testing.
If she hadn't fought, she would have faced five years in prison, not just a hit to her bank
account.
The school also agreed to settle, owing Paula, $600,000.
First, they suspended her when she was ultimately the victim, and they failed to end their
investigation into her when it was decided in court that she was not guilty.
The evidence in that courtroom, the DNA, and the prior claim.
of threats should have been enough to investigate Joanne for immorality and school code violations,
let alone enough to bring the investigation into Paula to a halt.
At the time of these lawsuits, both of the women, Paula and Joanne, still worked for the same
school district.
Paula was a third grade teacher at Pocono Mountain Elementary Center, and Joanne was a
reading specialist at Pocono Mountain Intermediate South.
Joanne still being employed by the district made their missteps glaringly obvious, despite
it being quite clear that Joanne was responsible for these actions, which included sending
what was considered pornographic material to parents who had children in the district.
They didn't place her on leave.
They didn't suspend her pay.
She faced no disciplinary boards.
So what were they punishing Paula for?
really if the true perpetrator had zero consequences.
Police chief Anthony Flugel refused to settle with Paula and took the issue to trial.
He told forensic files,
I thought from the beginning I was just doing my job.
Flugel's attorney, Hugh J. Hutchinson, blamed the Monroe County District Attorney's Office.
While the police may have arrested Paula, they couldn't undo anything once the DNA didn't match her.
It was the responsibility of the District Attorney's Office.
to stop prosecuting someone who didn't look guilty anymore,
but they didn't.
They pushed forward with the prosecution.
The jury ultimately agreed.
Chief Lugel, the only defendant to go to trial,
was the only one who didn't have to pay damages.
And I understand that line of thinking, right?
The police put together evidence.
They present it to the district attorney.
It's the district attorney's office
who decides whether or not to move forward
with the charges.
And this idea that they kept on, even after this DNA information came to light,
you know, to me, things like that are pretty alarming.
Yeah, it's their responsibility once something comes to light to stop and say this,
this no longer looks like a winnable case because now we have evidence that sort of goes
against the person that we think did this.
So I think, if anything, the DA's office maybe should have been on this list of people
that Paula should have sued.
Yeah, I don't know if they had immunity.
Sometimes, you know, some of these groups have immunity from being sued, you know,
in certain instances.
But, you know, just speaking of like the DAs in general, my thought has always been that
the goal, the quest is for the truth.
But in so many of these cases,
it seems as though some DA offices,
it's all about the win,
not about the truth.
And I think that comes up in a lot of cases,
especially some of the older cases.
Both Paula and Joanne agreed to appear on
dateline and forensic files,
back when it was called medical detectives,
Paula told the morning call,
I still was hoping for the blazing gun that would just straighten the world out.
Explaining why she agreed to relive everything and tell her story publicly,
her ordeal changed how she consumed media.
Paula said, no matter if it sounds like they have a rock solid case or whatever,
I believe it when the verdict is in.
Neither of the women moved away after this whole situation was resolved.
they continued to live in the same county and work for the same school district, but they were
never in the same building again.
This is a case that started out with Joanne being the victim, but eventually shifted to where
Paula was the true victim.
She was suspended without pay, children were pulled from her classroom, and she was eventually
forced to transfer to another school.
It's not really clear whether Joanne set out to frame Paula specifically, or if she accidentally
became a convenient patsy.
the letters were written from the perspective of an insider at the school.
One of the first things that made people suspect Paula was that letter mentioning the nickname
for Superintendent David Krauser.
Was this intentionally meant to implicate Paula?
Was she the only one who ever said that?
So the writer knew it would point right to her?
Or was this meant to be one more thing that would strongly hint that the writer was someone
in the school and it was other employees who attributed the nickname to Paula?
If it wasn't Joanne's original plan to blame Paula, she seemed set on framing another teacher when she began sending the letters about being poisoned.
When Paula grabbed Joanne's coffee mug from her desk, she maintains it wasn't to poison her.
It was only because Joanne had asked her to grab it.
The surveillance footage also shows Joanne and Paula talking to each other in the classroom, walking out together, and then,
It shows Paula come back in for the mug.
Looking at the timestamps on the video footage,
she went back for the mug less than a minute after they both left the classroom.
From the second, Paula had that cup in her hand.
She became a red herring of a suspect,
and it undoubtedly changed her life.
Joanne retired in June 2015.
She managed to obtain national board certification,
so the case didn't appear to harm her career prospects.
However, her retirement was supposed to be temporary, but it ended up permanent when the Hazleton Area School Board decided not to hire her as they had planned.
She would have been a specialist teaching Wilson language training to students in the Hazleton Area School District.
One concerned parent, who didn't know Joanne's backstory, told the morning consult, we just Googled her name and all of this came up.
Upon being presented with this information, Hazleton Area School,
board director, Jared O'Donnell, considered it a grave concern. This incident caused another director,
Robbie Wallace, to request the position of HR director be reinstated. The position had been cut
to save money, but allowed all this very relevant background information to slip through the cracks
in the hiring process. And sometimes I think you get in trouble more, you know, when you try to save
a little bit of money. And I get it, you know, schools are like anything.
else. There's only so much money to go around. But how important is it to do all the necessary
background checks on a teacher? And to me, it's even more important than it would be in the
private sector. These are the people who are going to be spending time with young children,
shaping young children's minds. You definitely want the background check.
on teachers to be as complete as possible.
And it doesn't surprise me one bit that once all this information came out about Joanne,
the school district said, you know what?
Yeah, I think we'll hire somebody else.
Yeah, I think that there's any budget cutting or trying to trim a few dollars off someplace
within a school district.
I think most parents would be in favor of it not being.
when it comes to the person that's going to background check who's in the classroom with your kids.
You know, obviously that's very important.
And they want the person there being safe and qualified and someone they can trust their kids with.
On November 1st, 2004, Joanne Chambers passed away at the age of 76.
Her husband, Mark, passed away 13 months before she did.
Leonard Naraki passed away in May of the same year at the age of 73.
At the time of concluding our research for this episode, there's no published obituary for Paula
and nothing to indicate that she's not still alive.
You have to wonder if she still lives in that small community and if she does.
Did she ever run into Joanne at a store or restaurant there over the years?
if so, how awkward must that have been?
And we said that the town grew over time, but, you know, still, how many restaurants are there?
How many stores are there?
There's a pretty good chance that you're going to run into somebody, you know, over a number of years.
Do you have words?
Do you just glare at that person and walk on or do you just ignore that person completely?
I mean, let's face it more.
If Joanne was the one who kind of set this whole thing up,
which it appears that that's the way this thing went down,
she really altered Paula's life.
You could understand how Paula would hold a great deal of animosity towards her.
Yeah, unless she was the kind of person that was very easily forgiving.
I could understand how she would harbor a grudge
for years after what she went through.
And going back to this DNA evidence,
it kind of shows that it was Joanne sending these letters,
but she denied that.
I think up until the day she died,
but assuming that the DNA is correct,
then really the big question in this case
is why would Joanne have done it?
all of this. We may never truly know that answer. I mean, I think you can kind of work through some
theories. You know, there are some people who are, I'll say, addicted for the lack of a better term,
to attention. You know, could all of this have come from kind of wanting attention, wanting to be
the center of attention, wanting people to feel bad for you?
wanting that sympathy from other people.
We've seen things happen for similar reasons before.
What's frightening is there was that record of Joanne having similar incidents from her old
school district before she ever met Paula.
Yet somehow she was allowed to go on teaching and find herself in a new environment,
having a run-in with a new teacher, Paula.
And maybe what happened at the previous school district,
wasn't criminal, but had the people hiring Joanne at the new district known what the old
co-workers there had to say, they may not have ever hired her.
They might not have.
They might have because, again, it wasn't criminal.
You know, one of the things that I want to talk about as it relates to the investigation
into, you know, what was going on at the time, Paula being arrested.
Pala being charged.
I didn't see it anywhere in the research.
But you wonder why the police didn't go talk to some of Joanne's former teachers,
some of the people who she taught with in the past,
I think if they had done that,
some of this would have come to light.
And it would have been known about much earlier on in the investigation.
Yeah, what's frightening.
most of all to me is that if Joanne did all this the way that DNA seems to show that she did,
you're talking about having alcohol in schools, pornographic material sent to parents.
The fact that she never was held accountable, suspended, was allowed to keep teaching after all of
this, after it seems that she was the one who likely did all this, that boggles my mind that they
would allow someone like that to be teaching kids and in school because in my mind,
maybe she's not stable.
Maybe she has some underlying mental illness and should have been properly, you know,
suspended and vetted out to see if she was safe to continue teaching kids.
But I think you said the word seems.
It seems like she did this.
It wasn't proven, like, let's say, in a court of law.
Right.
She wasn't convicted of anything.
It does kind of all point to her, but would that be enough for the school board to act?
And I guess that's just the question I'm asking.
They might have thought after they had already been sued by Paula that they didn't have enough to stand on.
But you're right.
As a parent, that would be concerning that this person who's thought to have done all of this.
I mean, let's go back.
Smeared feces on her own chair.
The Jack Daniels, the pornographic pictures.
That's not someone.
If Joanne did that, it's not someone you want teaching your children.
Yeah, imagine in the fall you get that little sheet that tells you what,
classrooms and teachers your kids are going to have and you see Joanne's name on the list.
How does that make you feel and are you comfortable with that?
But again, you know, I go back to the fact that she was never convicted of anything.
I think most people believe that based on the DNA evidence, she was doing this.
She did this.
And again, for what reasons we probably will not.
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