Criminology - Listen Now: 48 Hours

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

One of television's most popular true-crime series is now adapted for your ears with the "48 Hours" podcast. Every week, award-winning CBS News correspondents investigate the most intriguing crime and justice cases. Here's a preview of a new "48 Hours" episode, "The Night of the Idaho Student Murders". "48 Hours" correspondent Peter Van Sant sits down with family members of Kaylee Goncalves and Xana Kernodle, two of the four University of Idaho students shockingly murdered the night of November 13, 2022. You can hear the rest of this episode on the "48 Hours" podcast from CBS News. For even more "48 Hours", listen to the new "Post Mortem" series every Tuesday, where the correspondents and producers share their first hand experiences reporting on the compelling cases they cover.   Listen to 48 Hours ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery App or on Apple Podcasts: http://wondery.fm/48_CRM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey criminology fans, Mike and Morf here. Today, we're sharing something special with you. It's a preview from 48 hours, one of the top true crime podcasts. On the 48 hours podcast, you'll hear award-winning CBS News Correspondents investigate shocking murder cases and compelling real-life dramas from one of television's most watched true crime shows. I'm about to play you a clip from 48 hours. While you're listening, follow 48 hours on the Wondry app or wherever you get your podcasts.

Okay, here's the clip. 48 hours correspondent Peter Van Zandt takes us back to the night of November 13th, 2022 to the University of Idaho, the scene of the now infamous and chilling murders of four young students. Listen in as Van Zant speaks with a few family members of the victims. will forever be known as a scene of one of the most tragic crimes in American history. There's still sort of a darkness whenever you talk to people. It will be ever part of the university's history and the town's history. There are four very, very important names in this case,

Kaylee Gonzalez, Madison Mogan, Xana Cronodal and Ethan Chapin. And if you're going to remember any names from this case, I ask that it be all four. My name is Olivia Gonzalez, and Kaylee was my little sister. Everybody's going to work, and you look out the window, and there's kids running down the street laughing, and you're just like, how can you be out there playing? My daughter is dead. You know, Kayla Gonzalez is gone. Stop everything.

Everybody in the whole world stop. and everything just keeps going. My sister, Zana Kernodle, is one of the happiest, funniest people I've ever met. And I had the awesome privilege of growing up with her and I still have a hard time coming to terms with the facts that did happen. Brian Coburg is accused of stabbing these four University of Idaho students,

in the pre-dawn hours on November 13th, 2022. The murder weapon, which was a knife, has never been found. This is a type of survival knife. Brian Coburger did not make his own plea. The judge entered a plea for him of not guilty. Maximant penalties, life in prison, or the death penalty. Due to the nature of the crimes, the state of Idaho is seeking the death penalty. He was there to kill.

He came in with a kit. I believe he had to kill kit. And you believe that everything right down to the implement of destruction, this large marine knife, that was all planned. All planned. It was an inhumane. You wouldn't do these type of things to any living creature, let alone an innocent human being. In August of 2023, just six weeks before the murder trial of Brian Coburger was set to begin, he waived his right to a speedy trial. Show you what they're going to be there?

Absolutely. They would have to wait indefinitely for their day in court. I was really hoping that we could get this show on the road because the not knowing it's agony. It's agony. Steve and Christy, the parents of Kaylee, haven't left anything to chance. After the judge issued a gag order to attorneys and law enforcement, quote,

to preserve the right to a fair trial, they drilled down on their own investigation and are now sharing what they believe that investigation found. Steve says he believes transparency is the best path to justice. We're not going to just sit back and cross our fingers and pray that we're going to get justice. It has been a long and painful journey for the families of Kali Gonzalez, Maddie Mogan, Zana Kurnodl, and Ethan Chapin. Do you ever dream of your sister? Yeah, I've had some dreams of her.

There's times where I prayed and asked God to see her at another time, and I did, and just gives me some peace knowing that I know she's okay. Jasmine Kronotel, who is speaking for the first time, was a senior at Washington State University, and lived only 15 minutes away from her younger sister, Zana. Often mistaken as twins growing up, she says they were best friends. She just was always fun.

She was uplifting, and she took any bad situation and turned it into a good one. Jeff, what did you love most about your daughter? Everything. She cared about people. She was a people person. She cared about her friends. just as much as like her family.

For the first time in her life, Zana had fallen in love with fellow student Ethan Chapin, a triplet who loved his siblings, boats, and working on a tulip farm. The sweetest kid ever. They were just two happy people, and they were just seeing the videos and photos of them.

You can just tell how happy they are. They were just amazing together. Sadly, they will now forever be linked, in death. On Sunday morning, November 13th, Zana's friends started calling Jasmine, saying something bad had happened on King Road. Jasmine rushed over to Zana's house. And while you're driving that eight, nine miles over to the house,

are you trying to reach your sister then? How many times do you call her? A lot. I called her a lot, called Ethan a lot. Her next call was to her father. Jeffrey had been visiting Jasmine for dad's week. and was on his way home. So you answer the phone, what do you hear? You're kind of crying and just telling me to get back to Moscow

and meet me at Santa's house. And, you know, my heart drops. Instantly, race back down there. The house was cordoned off and swarming with investigators. As soon as Jeffrey said he was Zana's father, he and Jasmine were escorted to the Moscow police. police department. And Jasmine, what does the officer say to you and your father? I don't remember exactly just that four people passed away and that one was saying that.

The worst day of your life, this is your worst thing, man. It just happened, you know? What do you do? You can't do a damn thing. You can hear the rest of this episode on the 48 hours podcast. And if you're looking for more, go behind the scenes with the new post-mortem series every Tuesday, where 48 hours correspondents and producers share their firsthand experiences reporting on the compelling cases they cover. You can also listen to 48 hours ad free by joining Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts.