Criminology - The Connecticut River Valley Killings Part 2

Episode Date: June 22, 2025

In Part 1, we outlined the bulk of the cases connected to this series and discussed how many of the instances were remarkably similar in some ways, and how the areas where the crimes occurred often ov...erlapped with each other. Join Mike and Morf for part 2 of the Connecticut River Valley killings. In Part 2, we will discuss a couple of additional deaths that may be part of this series, or at least were once thought to be connected, possibly. We will then delve into some possible suspects in the murders. You can help support the show through Patreon https://www.patreon.com/criminology For news about the podcast, old episodes and more, visit our website.  We'd love to connect with listeners on social media. We are available on the following platforms: Facebook - Facebook Discussion group - Instagram - Threads - X Formerly Twitter - Blue Sky - Youtube - Twitch - Tik Tok  Find all of our social media in one place at: https://linktr.ee/criminologypodcast   Criminology is an Emash Digital production hosted by Mike Ferguson and Mike Morford. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In the suburbs of D.C., a woman fails to show up for work and is found brutally murdered. I wonder what's emergency? We just walked in the door and there's blood in the foyer. For the next two decades, the case remained unsolved until new technology allowed investigators to do what had once been impossible. A new series from ABC Audio in 2020, blood and water. Listen now wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Josh Maykowitz, and I hope you'll join us for season four of Dateline Missing in America. In each episode of Dateline's award-winning series, we will focus on one missing person's case
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Starting point is 00:01:40 I'm Mike Ferguson. And this is Mike Morford. Mr. Morford, how you doing, buddy? I'm doing pretty good. How you doing? I'm doing great. Celebrated my wife's birthday this week. We went out to dinner and, you know, at this age, she doesn't want to kind of do too much.
Starting point is 00:01:57 for her birthday. We grabbed some bun cakes. I don't know if you ever had nothing bun cake. I don't know if you guys have those down there. They're really good. But no singing, no nothing. She doesn't like it. Yeah. Well, I mean, sometimes as you get older, you just want the relaxing birthdays and not the exciting action-pack birthdays like you used to have when you were younger. Yeah. I mean, there's no checky cheese or anything like that, obviously. Let's go ahead and give our Patreon shout-outs. We had Jarnah Jokie Kuzmanit and Linda Jackson. So great new support. We really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Thank you so much for that support. It really helps us out for anyone else that would like to. You can get started supporting the show by going over to patreon.com slash criminology. All right. Let's go ahead and jump right into this part two of the Connecticut River Valley killings. In part one, we laid out the bulk of the cases connected to this series. and talked about how overwhelmingly many of the cases mirrored each other in some ways, and the areas where the crimes happened often overlapped each other.
Starting point is 00:03:08 We concluded part one by talking about one brave woman, Jane Boroski, who was a would-be victim and fought back to not only save her life, but the life of her unborn child. In part two, we're going to talk about a couple more deaths that may be part of this series, or at least at one point were thought to possibly be connected. And then we'll dive into some possible suspects in the murders. On June 24, 1989, a motorcyclist near the entrance to Mount Grace State Park found severed limbs from a woman in multiple spots near Route 78 in Warwick, Massachusetts, less than a mile from the New Hampshire border.
Starting point is 00:03:50 This consisted of a set of legs and arms. The remains were found in decomposed condition. and it was believed that someone had dismembered the entire body before disposing of it. The torso and head were never found. A medical examination led to experts to conclude that the woman was the victim of homicide. She was thought to have been white of average height with a somewhat athletic build. For years, the remains were unidentified until finally DNA led to answers in May 2024. That's when she was identified as 65-year-old Constance Bassignani.
Starting point is 00:04:25 It was last seen on Memorial Day weekend, 1989, in Woonsock at Rhode Island. Her husband William is considered a suspect in her murder. When she went missing, William had told friends and family that Constance had left and moved to Hawaii and that she wasn't coming back. William died in 1993 and was never charged with his wife's murder. And I can see more of why some people could possibly think that this murder, you know, could be related. to the Connecticut River Valley Killings. You have the geographic location, obviously. You have the gruesomeness of the murder,
Starting point is 00:05:06 dismemberment with only the legs and arms found. I mean, those type of details. They get people's attention. I think what kind of might lead someone away from thinking that this is part of the series is finding out that, her husband told friends and family that Constance had just left and moved to Hawaii. I guess my question to you is, was that something easier in 1989? Yeah, I think it's clearly possible that back then it would have been easier to tell someone,
Starting point is 00:05:47 you know, so-and-so moved across the country. And since they don't have, they didn't have social media, they couldn't be. posting stuff, it'd be harder to track them. Now, I don't know about you, but if somebody I cared about a good friend or a family member suddenly disappeared and their spouse told me they went to Hawaii and they're never coming back, I'd be curious. I'd be making inquiries, calls, whatever I could do to try and verify that because that just sounds kind of far-fetched that they're leaving their nerve coming back. You're never going to hear from them again. So I, I, I don't know if that was done.
Starting point is 00:06:26 We don't have enough information about the case, but it seems logical that that would be something someone close to her would do. But much harder to try to track someone down, right? In 1989, like you mentioned, no social media. I don't know that many people had cell phones in 1989. I certainly didn't have one. But the social media aspect to me is a big one. I mean, I watch a lot of true crime shows.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And in the case where someone goes missing, in a more recent case, social media is always brought up. You know, the fact that someone is a user of Facebook or Twitter or Instagram or whatever it is, and then all of a sudden, they just stop posting or replying to posts. That's a big deal nowadays. And back then, without a daily update on Facebook or Twitter, whatever it is, you don't really know what's going on in somebody's life unless they're close enough to you that you see them or talk to them on a regular basis. And sometimes the only thing you have nowadays to see what's going on with someone is what
Starting point is 00:07:41 they're posting. So without that, you know, there may have been people that didn't know that she was even missing in the first place. Yeah, because obviously you have close friends, you have family. but then you also have, you know, tertiary friends, people that, you know, you know, but you don't get an update from daily or maybe even weekly. Those people are not going to suspect probably much in 1989, whereas today they might, just from the usage of social media.
Starting point is 00:08:18 You know, it took till 2024 to get confirmed answers, what actually happened. happened to her, at least her family has, you know, some answers. And hopefully maybe one day they'll find the rest of her remains, but at least they have some inkling of what happened to her. The next and final person mentioned in connection to the series is Carrie Moss of New Boston, New Hampshire. On July 25, 1989, the 14-year-old left home on her bike to visit friends in Goffstown, a town about seven miles northeast, to go swimming. It's not clear from news reports whether she ever met up with her friends. But what is clear is that when she didn't come back home, her parents quickly became word.
Starting point is 00:09:04 According to oakill research.blogspot.com, Carrie was not reported missing until late fall two months after going missing. And then once she was reported missing, her family had to file new missing persons reports for her over the next two years. because her name kept getting removed from the missing persons' case list. Carrie was originally thought by her family to be a runaway and that she left due to a minor marijuana charge she was facing at the time she vanished. According to that same website, Carrie's family tried to hire a private investigator, but were discouraged from doing so by police as they claimed it would interfere with their investigation.
Starting point is 00:09:48 On July 24th, 1991, almost two years to the day, after she had gone missing, skeletal remains were found by a boy on a bike in a wooded area in New Boston, about a mile from the Moss home. The remains were identified as Carrey's, and her death was classified as a homicide, although due to the state of the remains, an exact cause of death could not be determined. Carrie's case remains unsolved today. And more of to me, this has elements of, you know, a lot of the different unsolved cases that we've done through the years, especially ones that go back to, let's say, the 80s, the early 90s, and beyond. You have a young person who goes missing. And we don't have all the details,
Starting point is 00:10:42 but it's clear to me from what we do have that, You know, it wasn't taken all that seriously in the beginning. Maybe some of that was due to the fact that, you know, even her own parents thought that she might have run away. We know the police in a lot of instances treated some of these as runaways rather than starting out with the theory that it was a missing person's case. And then you have this kind of strange fact that her name kept getting removed from the missing persons caseless. Yeah, I think due to the delay in her being reported missing followed by the her name dropping off the missing person's list that seems to have hamstrung developments in her case, maybe potential for it being solved. And I don't want to blame the parents. Maybe they had their reasons.
Starting point is 00:11:38 but if it was my daughter, whether I thought she had run away or not, I would have gone to the police and reported her missing right away. And then they may have back then said she's probably a runaway, but at least they'd have that on file right away. And I'd be voicing my concerns. Yeah, that was one of the things that jumped out to me. I mean, when you're talking about a 14-year-old who doesn't come home, and like you said, you know, we don't want to run down the parents.
Starting point is 00:12:08 but I think you do have to ask the question. Why did it take two months to report her missing? Now, again, was some of that because they thought, you know, she had run away because of this marijuana charge? If I'm with you, regardless of that, I mean, I'm going to the police. I got to find out where my baby girl is. And I think we all know that teenagers at that age can probably tend to overreact to things that aren't. all that serious, like a minor marijuana charge isn't something that would have probably gotten her in a lot of trouble. But in a 14-year-old girl's mind, I could see her being, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:51 worried and upset and not thinking it through. So I could see why someone might consider her runaway. Yeah, I do get that point. You know, something that would crop up to you and I, or to most people listening, that might be worrisome to a 14 year old can sometimes seem like the end of the world. We know that. We've talked about it before. You just think about breakups and things when you're you were 14 years old. It seemed like oh my gosh, my life is ending. I'm never going to love again. I mean, little do you know that you're going to have, you know, a whole bunch of different relationships probably that aren't going to love. last long and then eventually you're going to find someone who you settle down with. But at 14,
Starting point is 00:13:44 your mind just doesn't work that way. And it's sad to know that she was literally less than a mile from home all that time too. And the parents were probably wondering where she was at, wondering what was happening to her. And the whole time she was right down the road. But does that fact of her being found just a mile from home in your mind have a bearing in, any way on whether this could be linked to the series or not. I think the area certainly fits into our general area that we've been talking about all these cases happening in, but maybe the fact that it's that close to home, unless she just happened to run into the wrong person, maybe it indicates that someone
Starting point is 00:14:31 in her orbit or her circle might have been responsible for her death. In total, there are generally 15 victims tied to the Connecticut River Valley killings, the ones that we've touched on over these two episodes, but other people have put that number closer to 20 or more, because some of those other cases vary greatly in ammo, details, or locations. We won't be touching on those ones. Despite the scary moniker used by a lot of people, the Connecticut River Valley killer, not everyone in law enforcement circles thinks that one single predator
Starting point is 00:15:04 was responsible for all the attacks. But for those that do think there was one, there are a lot of commonalities among many of the attacks that they point to. Most of the victims were stabbed and stabbed at least 20 times in some instances. Additionally, most of the women were alone and outdoors when attacked, and the attacks often happened at night. At least one detective, Detective Thomas O'Clear of the Vermont State Police, believe that there was indeed one suspect responsible for the murder.
Starting point is 00:15:34 In 1988, he told the Rutland Daily Herald, if we had six homicides that involved multiple stabbings, and if six different people were doing that, we'd be tripping over bodies. And I think, you know, some of that for me goes back to the question that you ask a lot more, what is scary to have one person killing, let's say, 10 or 20 people over a period of time, or multiple people out committing serial murders in the same area at the same time.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Now, you could also look at a lot of these as one-off killings, not a group of serial killers. Maybe there's one serial killer who's responsible for a number of murders. and then however many others were killed by one person. Either way, it's scary, right, when you think about that stuff. There's a lot of people losing their lives and either one or a number of people taking them. And it makes me wonder what's easier for law enforcement. Would they be more able to identify and catch?
Starting point is 00:16:56 one serial killer that was doing all of this stuff, or would they have a better chance if it was several people, maybe one of them slipping up and then them identifying that person? Statistically, most people are killed by someone they know. They're not running into a stranger, a serial killer. So although it does happen, the majority of people, that's not the case. Which is why I always believe that a true serial killer is harder to catch.
Starting point is 00:17:26 You know, if that person has no known ties to the victims and the victims are really selected at random, that's got to be tougher to solve. Hey there, it's Wayfair here, where delivery and setup are as easy as a few taps on your phone. You're relaxing in an old hammock, scrolling Wayfair's app, when you spot it, a brand new patio set. Next thing you know, Wayfair delivers it right to your patio and sets it up. Oh, you need a new grill too? All right, Wayfair's got you covered. With Wayfair's room of choice delivery and fast experts set up on qualifying orders, life gets a little easier. Visit Wayfair.com or the Wayfair app.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Wayfair, every style, every home. In the suburbs of D.C., a woman fails to show up for work and is found brutally murdered. I wonder what's emergency. We just walked in the door and there's blood in the foyer. For the next two decades, the case remained unsolved, until new technology allowed investigators to to what had once been impossible. A new series from ABC Audio in 2020. Blood and water.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Listen now wherever you get your podcasts. If there really was one perpetrator that was responsible for all of these attacks and the info Jane Barowski gave was accurate. And it seems like police would have a lot to go on and a solid foundation to work with regarding a suspect. But was Jane's attacker responsible? for all the attacks. If you recall from part one,
Starting point is 00:18:59 Jane said that her attacker seemed confused and was upset accusing her of attacking his girlfriend. What if it truly was a case of mistaken identity? Jane's assailant was leaving until she yelled at him about her windshield
Starting point is 00:19:15 being cracked and only then did he turn around and come after her. If this was a serial killer, would he ever have attempted to leave before trying to finish her off. It's possible while being a very bad guy in his own right, he was not the killer of all the victims we discussed. If that's the case, then maybe police don't have as much to go on as some people think.
Starting point is 00:19:41 If Jane's incident was a one-off type of incident, then what that person looked like, what vehicle he drove would not really be of much help to police and trying to solve some of the murders. Jane's the only victim that we know of who was able to escape and tell her story. And this all comes back to the frustration of is the guy that attacked Jane involved in these other crimes? Because there it is, they have a vehicle to go on, they have a description. they have a number of things that might help identify the guy, although it hasn't happened yet.
Starting point is 00:20:23 But if he's not, then what do police really have? They might be able to tie him to Jane's case, but then that still leaves them behind the eight ball trying to identify the person responsible for these other attacks. We talked earlier about some of the commonalities in these attacks. Another one is that most of the victims were found near or long Interstate 91. and some were even last seen on the highway. Some were driving along it.
Starting point is 00:20:51 One was hitchhiking along it. Four of the victims were found along the Sugar River, and two of those discoveries were just 500 feet from one another, those separated by time. In each of the attacks that are generally considered to be part of the Connecticut River Valley killer cases, where it was possible to determine the cause of death. The victim was not only stabbed,
Starting point is 00:21:12 but their throats had been cut. The location of the stab wounds are said to make a VP, pattern over the neck, chest, and abdominal areas, and in many of the cases, the thighs. These are the kinds of things that have some people convinced that one killer was likely responsible. And I do think more of, you know, those are the types of things that do cause people to, you know, try to group cases together. You know, you have geography, but then you have not only.
Starting point is 00:21:46 stabings, but in most cases, a large number of stab wounds, the cutting of throats. And then when you start to talk about this V pattern, well, that to me is even more specific. Yeah, it doesn't seem like a more a frenzy type of stabbing where there's stab wounds going all over wherever the killer can strike. It seems very deliberate and precise to make. that helps build the case that there is one person, and we don't have all the information about what kind of knife was used, but maybe investigators know that there was a very similar weapon, a very specific type of weapon that causes injuries. There was a seven-month gap in the series with no activity from the killer or killers
Starting point is 00:22:37 between Barbara Agnew's disappearance and Jane Boroski's attack. It's at least a time when no known victims have been tied to the series. If there were victims during this time period, they remain undiscovered. Whether or not there was a single Connecticut River Valley serial killer or multiple killers, there wasn't much movement in any of the cases over the years. But in 2006, it seemed like there was a big break, and police finally felt like they had a strong suspect, Michael Nicolao. And as you'll hear, whether or not Nicolao was responsible for these attacks,
Starting point is 00:23:11 he was really a disturbed, violent, and dangerous man. In 2006, Jane Boroski participated in a press conference that identified a potential suspect, Michael Nicolao. He was one of the top three persons of interest that had been identified over the years. Michael Nicolao was a Vietnam veteran. He was honorably discharged from the Army after getting multiple medals, including a Purple Heart. But it was likely to get him out of the military before he caused any further trouble. He and seven of his fellow soldiers were charged after shooting civilians from helicopter.
Starting point is 00:23:51 At random, though the charges were later dropped, he experienced PTSD symptoms after his service. In 1982, Nicolao and his first wife, Susan, divorced just three or four months. After Jane Boroski was attacked, Nicolao's girlfriend, Michelle Ashley, disappeared. And he left the area with their two children. Michelle was last seen alive at her sister's wedding in November of 1988. Months earlier, she had told her mother that she was afraid. Nicolao was going to kill her and that she was planning to leave him. She also worried that he would take their two children, Nick and Joy, and mistreat them.
Starting point is 00:24:34 So she told her mother that if anything happened to her, someone needed to find him and help the kids. At the time, they lived together in Holyoke, Massachusetts. In December 1988, Michelle's family arrived at the home Michelle's share with Michael to find no one had been there in some time. Everything was still inside the home. The fridge was full of food, which had started to rot, and books belonging to each of Michelle's children were there. Even the Christmas tree had rat presents waiting underneath it.
Starting point is 00:25:06 But Michelle, Michael, and both of the children were gone. her family reported her missing to the police. To this day, Michelle Ashley is still a missing person nearly 37 years later. And I can't even imagine more as a family kind of arriving at the home and finding out that everybody was gone. But not only that, you're doing it with the knowledge that Michelle had already said. She was afraid that Michael was going to. to kill her. I mean, I think that there's an added element there. Yeah, I think investigators' ears probably perk up when they have a detail from someone that says, hey, if anything ever happens
Starting point is 00:25:54 to me, look at this person and then something happens to them. I'm sure the police, that's the first person they consider. Michael, Nicolao bounced around the United States with his children living in multiple states, including Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Hampshire, and Virginia. Sometime in the late 90s, Nicolao met and began dating Eileen Bowman, and they got married. Things weren't always great in their relationship. They argued often and used drugs in front of the children. While Nicolao was building a new life with his wife, his former girlfriend, Michelle Ashley was still missing and her family was looking for her.
Starting point is 00:26:39 They hired a private investigator named Lynn Marie Cardi in 2000. They hadn't heard from Michelle or the children in 12 years. Cardi is actually the one who called authorities about Michael Nicolao in relation to the Connecticut River Valley killings because she just couldn't shake the idea that he was connected after all of her research and the information that came from it. At the time, Jane Boroski felt sure Nicolao was indeed her attacker. In 2001, when Cardi tracked Nicolao down, he was living in Lutz, north of Tampa, Florida, with his second wife, Eileen. She called him from information as to the whereabouts of Michelle,
Starting point is 00:27:26 and he claimed he didn't even know Michelle. Carty was persistent, though, and eventually Nicolow dropped the act and admitted that he knew exactly who Michelle Ashley was. but he didn't have anything nice to say about her. He also claimed that she had left him for a Colombian drug dealer. This was the story he gave to a lot of people, but it wasn't the only story. He told other people that Michelle had died. Even his children grew up believing that their mother had abandoned them
Starting point is 00:27:52 and that their dad was a devoted single father, struggling on his own until Eileen came along. Well, let's face it more of what man hasn't been left for a Colombian drug dealer? I mean, that's just routine. It happens all the time. It's reminiscent of the case we were talking about earlier where the husband says, oh, she went to Hawaii and she's living in paradise and you're never going to hear from her again. I think that sometimes the stories just seem too far-fetched.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Yeah. And to me, when they do, it makes them seem less believable, right? Because you don't have to go outlandish when you lie. But a lot of people do. They go over the top. And I think in many instances, it just gives away the fact that they're lying. But I want to go back to, you know, Michael saying to the investigator at first that he didn't even know Michelle. She was the mother of his two children.
Starting point is 00:28:54 It just seems like such a strange thing to say. Yeah, and I think it just goes to show that if he could lie about something like that, what else might he lie about? Well, at the very least, right, knowing that it's hard to believe the rest of the things that a person like that would set. Shortly after speaking with the private investigator, Nicolao and Eileen moved to Georgia.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Their marriage didn't last much longer. In December of 2005, Eileen fled the state of Georgia to get away from Michael after he broke her shoulder. Some reports state this injury occurred while he was beating her, while other states that he tried to run her over with his car. Whatever the scenario was, she had had enough. Unfortunately for Eileen, she was not free of Michael Nicolao for long on December 30, 2005. Nicolao dropped his son, Nick, off at a friend's house for a sleepover.
Starting point is 00:29:55 The next day, he drove to the home of Eileen's sister in West Tampa. where she and her young adult daughter from a previous relationship were staying. He took two firearms with him, a semi-automatic pistol and a 30-caliber M1 carbine rifle. Michael Nicolow got inside the home. It's not clear whether he forced his way in or was let in, but they ended up in one of the bedrooms. It seems like it was the former because Eileen's sister, Audrey, called 911. One. Authorities ended up surrounding the home, waiting for their next move. Sadly, they couldn't save Eileen. Michael Nicolao shot Eileen and her daughter before turning the gun on himself,
Starting point is 00:30:39 taking his own life. When authorities entered the home, Eileen and Nicolao were pronounced dead. Twenty-two-year-old Taron Bowman, Eileen's daughter, was a lie but unresponsive due to a gunshot wound to her head. She died at Tampa General Hospital hours later. Police sorted through Michael Nicolao's past and saw a lot of troubling things, but they were left wondering, is he a serial killer? Was he responsible for the Connecticut River Valley killings? There were many things about Nicolao that kind of lined up with whoever committed the Connecticut River Valley killings. He obviously had a temper. He was thought to have killed innocent people for no reason from a helicopter. Nicolao would have been familiar with Interstate 91.
Starting point is 00:31:26 which is near many of the spots where the victims were recovered. He and Michelle drove it every time. They went to visit her family in Claremont, New Hampshire. However, this doesn't mean he would have been familiar with all those back roads in the area. More than one victim was a nurse or nurse's aide. Nicolao's mother worked at a hospital and his first wife was a nurse. There was a theory that the killer was targeting nurses and there were long Hill believes that serial killers have pent up rage toward their mothers.
Starting point is 00:32:01 He and Michelle had also been to the hospital that one of the victims Barbara Agnew worked at a few months before her murder. Nicolat was a black belt and karate, so that may have given him an advantage in overpowering women that he targeted and getting them into a position where he could slit their throat from behind, as investigators believe happened in the Connecticut River Valley Killings. as a helicopter pilot in Vietnam, he was likely able to handle pressure. James attacker calmly walked to his car and slowly drove past her as he left the parking lot. He was totally calm.
Starting point is 00:32:36 We know from all of these details that Michael Nicola was a bad guy, but was he a serial killer. As far as hard physical evidence connecting him to any of the murders we discussed, there's nothing that we know that links him. And more of I think sometimes, you know, that is one of the big hurdles, or one of the big problems in a case like this, where it's thought or believed by many that there could be one person, responsible for, if not all, a number of these killings. Well, Nicolao looks like possibly a good guy for these.
Starting point is 00:33:15 But as you said, and there's no hard physical evidence connecting him. But it's hard to discount him, right? does fit the profile in many ways. And I think there are some people that are critics of him being involved that would say that his only known victims are people that he's in a relationship with, you know, excluding the helicopter attacks he was accused of. So they, they think that sort of is at odds with the,
Starting point is 00:33:48 the possibility that the killer of all the women we talked about, was likely a stranger to them. But is it possible that this killer not only targeted individuals whom he didn't know, but also chose to kill some people in his life? I think that's possible. And I think for police, they can't, they've got to consider all the possibilities and look at all the potential suspects and until they can rule that person out. At the time of the 2006 press conference,
Starting point is 00:34:24 Jane Barroski and private investigator Cardi seemed sure that Nicolao could have been responsible for the attacks, with Jane saying, I'm totally convinced. However, Jane has since said that she does not think. Nicolao is responsible for her attack and seems to believe that Cardi swayed her opinion earlier. With so much focus on him, it seems that if there was a solid link to Nicolao and these murders, it would have been found by now. Many people still consider Nicolao worthy suspect, but many have written him off as a bad and dangerous guy
Starting point is 00:35:01 with ties to the Connecticut River Valley area and nothing more. And I think that is a big deal, right? We kind of listed all the places that he lived over the years. Well, he lived in the Connecticut River Valley for periods of time, That's another thing that probably draws people's attention to him. But with so much attention on him, it does seem as though they probably would have found something by this point to link him to at least one or some of the murders. And as far as we know, that just never happened.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Yeah, that's a good point because he had such a light shined on him, such a magnifying less after what he did that, you know, if there was anything to be found, it seems like that would have happened. But, you know, he was in the right areas. He was a dangerous person. So, you know, unless police found something solid to eliminate him, they probably had to keep him on the back burner as possibly being involved. The GLP One pill you've been waiting for is now on Roe. Yep, it's finally here. with the same clinically proven ingredient. Now in a pill.
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Starting point is 00:36:55 This is very close to where Eva Morse's remains were found, and not very far from multiple other victims. Authorities were tight-lipped and refused to comment on what they were searching for or why they were in the area. But News 9 claims to have a source that confirm the search warrants related to the Connecticut River Valley killings. The searches took place at the home of Jeffrey Champagne, who some locals apparently call the Kellyville Killer, if you believe people online claiming to be residents in the area. There might be some truth to these rumors. As Champagne himself admitted to vNews.com,
Starting point is 00:37:31 they asked me years ago about Ellen Freed. Champagne has been described by locals as a little off and different. But Champagne was not arrested. Following the search, many doubt his involvement. and believe he's just a little weird, but he's not a killer. The search is in the area wrapped up by the next day, and investigators have not commented on whether anything of interest was found. It's been over a year, and there's been no further news or public movement in the case.
Starting point is 00:38:02 But that doesn't mean the case isn't being worked behind the scenes. Former senior assistant attorney general Miles Mattson told WMUR, a lot of the investigative activity that we're, engaged in is not visible to the public. And I think that's true in a lot of cases. You know, just because you don't see an updated report in the media doesn't mean there's not things happening. And we know police don't divulge everything. But as it relates to Jeffrey Champaign, you know, first of all, not great when people are calling you the Kellyville killer. And then you have locals describing him as a little off different.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Well, okay, there are quite a few people who are different. Does that mean that you're a killer? No, absolutely not. But in many towns, if you're the one person kind of singled out as being different from everyone else and a little off, as was the phrase used by some people, well, is your name going to come up when just about anything happens? And that could be the case here. I don't know. And it seems like whatever the case that investigators felt they had enough to get search warrants because you can't get search warrants by saying that the person's weird.
Starting point is 00:39:34 We want to check them out. I think they needed some kind of hard or compelling evidence to get those search warrants. So we don't know what that is, what led them to him to get those warrants, but certainly seems like they thought there might be something there. But at the same time, it also seems like, you know, they, they didn't find anything of note or at least anything that they could use to charge him with anything or they would have. And you have to feel for this guy in some capacity, because if he's ever deemed innocent of these charges or they identified somebody else and he's not responsible. And his name's out there as the Kelly Phil killer.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And how do you put that genie back in the bottle? I don't think you can ever fully get that off of your reputation and you're tied to your name. No, I don't think people do. And it's astounding how many people are kind of floated, right? as suspects in so many different cases, and it turns out that they've never done any of the stuff that people thought. And, you know, that's a tough position to be in. There's another unnamed, but very compelling potential suspect that we want to mention, who has been pointed to by those with access to the case files.
Starting point is 00:40:59 This suspect has ties to Maine and was at the Moor House the day Linda was killed, among many other interesting points that we can't confirm because the records aren't available to us. The main connection would be interesting because some people wonder whether the Connecticut River Valley killer made his way that far out of the Connecticut River Valley. In 1989, 16-year-old Jessica Briggs was found in the harbor in Portland, Maine. She had been stabbed multiple times, and her throat had been cut. In 1992, Anthony Sanborn Jr. was convicted of her murder, but it was released in 2017 after new evidence was presented in the case that cleared
Starting point is 00:41:40 him, leaving Jessica's real killer unidentified. We'll have to see if any more of a case can be billed against this last suspect or see if any physical evidence links him to any of the murders. And obviously it's tough, Morph, because we're talking about this person, but we have so very little information about him. So few details. But that doesn't mean that police don't. have a lot that they're working on. We just don't know. And I also want to touch on,
Starting point is 00:42:10 you know, Anthony Sanborn Jr. Unfortunately, we've seen this quite a bit, right? Especially as technology has advanced. It has freed a lot of people who spent many, many years behind bars for something they didn't do, which I can not even imagine. imagine how horrible that would be. But the other side of that coin is that it left whoever the real killer was unidentified because you're not searching for anyone else after there's a conviction. Yeah, it certainly leaves the real killer a lot of time to maybe cover their tracks and distance themselves from the murder.
Starting point is 00:43:02 but Jessica's murder, despite happening in Maine, certainly sounds like a lot of the cases we've discussed. You know, the stabbing's throat had been cut. So I can see why some people say this sounds a lot like these other killings. All of these cases are still unsolved. It's been decades. We can only hope there is a shred of DNA in one or more of the cases that can be discovered on another round of testing that can be done,
Starting point is 00:43:35 or a witness or some other piece of evidence will blow one or more of the cases wide open. Maybe if just one of the cases could be solved, there would be a domino effect leading to other cases being linked. It seems like the enemy to solving a lot of these cases is the time they happened in. A time when DNA collection was, you know, in its infancy.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I don't know that all departments even knew about that or how it should be collected, handled, stored properly. This is a time when not everyone had a cell phone to track cell signals in the areas of the murders, a time when we didn't have safety monitoring apps that may have helped some of these victims. And a time when there weren't cameras mounted all over the place that, might have given the authority's answers by now. It seems like a series of murders this big would not likely happen today with all of the tools that would make getting away with murders like these extremely hard. We'll have to stay tuned and see if law enforcement has any tricks up their sleep that will
Starting point is 00:44:51 one day reveal the identity of the Connecticut River Valley killer or killers. And I do think more if it would be hard. right to get away with some of these murders today with all of the new technology it doesn't mean it still doesn't happen though people get away with murders today yeah i just think it would be certainly harder but back then again we're talking in a time where there just wasn't the same types of tools you that were able to be used to solve some of these cases i mean at the very least right today police would have a lot more at their fingertips to use, a lot more tools to help them. But that doesn't mean that some of the technology today can't still be used.
Starting point is 00:45:45 I mean, we see it all the time. New technology being used to solve older cases. Now, there's a lot of things that go into that. You know, what was the evidence collection like? What was the storing like? Can any DNA be extracted from any of the evidence at any of these scenes? There's a lot of factors. Yeah, and I wonder, we don't know all the details of what's going on behind the scenes,
Starting point is 00:46:14 but I wonder if maybe at some point in the past, they tried to look at these cases to get DNA potentially from the killer and using the standards and the things that were in place years ago weren't able to do that. But now maybe in 2025, maybe they can. So hopefully they're always looking back at the evidence with new modern advancements, trying to reexamine it and see if there's a potential to get DNA, because that seems like it would probably be the best way to solve one or more of these cases if there is any. Yeah, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:46:54 old some of these are, I just don't know what other way it would happen. I mean, the most likely scenario to me would be something along the lines of, you know, the Golden State Killer. If this is one person or a few people who committed all these murders, you know, getting some kind of DNA hit and maybe using genetic genealogy or something along that, those lines. And I'm really scratching my head here. I don't know about what you think,
Starting point is 00:47:28 but I'm having a hard time deciding if I think this might be one person or a bunch of people because if it was one person, I kind of wonder what happened to them to make them stop. Did they go to jail? Did they die or did they just grow tired of doing it like some killers do? And if it was multiple killers, how would all of them sort of slip through the cracks and never be identified? and linked to any of these crimes.
Starting point is 00:47:55 It's really fascinating to sort of wonder what the, the true answer is here. Yeah, I mean, in my honest opinion, I think it's probably a mix. I think you might have had one or more serial killers operating in the same areas, overlapping in the, in the years. And then I think some of the murders were probably one-off type killings. most likely committed by, you know, someone that the victim knew. But I think it's part of what makes this such a fascinating case or series of cases.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Is that unknown? You know, the idea of one Connecticut River Valley serial killer. Okay, that's, that's a scary thought. That's, you know, the Golden State killer-esque. maybe not with the same numbers. Maybe. I don't know. The other thing about this morph is, you know, there's no way for us to be sure that there's
Starting point is 00:49:03 not other cases that could be connected. You have a guy like Nicolao, and I know a lot of people don't believe that it's him, but just a guy like him who lived in a bunch of different states. I can't help but think when you have someone like, like that, you know, you just asked what happened to this person. Did they stop? Well, maybe they didn't stop. They just decided to move and pick up in a different area. That's a scary thought as well. Yeah, that makes me wonder if people should be digging in other areas of the country, maybe looking for similar patterns or similar crimes that happen maybe right before these murders
Starting point is 00:49:47 or right after these murders, that this person may have continued doing what they were doing. Well, the one thing I know is that the fascination with this Connecticut River Valley killer or, you know, the series of murders is not likely to stop anytime soon. There are going to be people out there who continue to look into it.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Law enforcement's going to continue to look into it. I mean, the real question is, will we ever see some movement, like a big break in the case? Yeah, this would be a big one to solve. And if all of these cases do turn out to be linked together and it's one person that's doing this, that would be a major identification for a big-time serial killer. Yeah, no doubt about it. If you have any information about the murders we've discussed in this two-part series,
Starting point is 00:50:43 please give your information to authorities no matter how unsure you are that it could be related. You can give your tip to the New Hampshire Department of Justice by calling 603-271-3658, or you can use their online tip form at business.n.h.gov slash cold case tips slash tip. Or you can send your tip to the Vermont State Police by texting V-Tips to the number 274-637. So that's it for our series on the Connecticut River Valley Killings. If you love the show, but haven't done so yet, take a minute, go out, leave us a review, a rating. Also keep telling your friends, word of mouth about the podcast really helps us out. If you want to interact with us on social media, you can find us on all major social media platforms to search for criminology podcast.
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