Critical Role & Sagas of Sundry - Quests N’ Answers | Inside Sagas of Sundry: Goblin Mode Ep. 11

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

Welcome to Quests N’ Answers, the companion series to Sagas of Sundry: Goblin Mode! ***Massive spoilers ahead for episode 11*** Join Dan Casey and cast members Amy Vorpahl, Jason Nguyen, and Danielle Radford as they break down the most shocking and emotionally challenging episode of Goblin Mode yet in deep dive into episode 11, “The Abysseum Awaits.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm Dan Casey, and this is Sagas of Sundry quests and answers. We're going to talk about the latest episode of Sagas of Sundry Goblin Mode, and to do so, before I go any further, I need to stress, there are going to be spoilers. Massive spoilers for what just happened. So if you haven't seen the latest episode, please, do not go any further. I'm begging you. Please.

Okay. With that said, joining me, as always, we have... Danielle Radford? Amy for Paul. And I'm Jason Wynn. Oh, Yay, you are, aren't you, Jason?

Look who's back at the table. I guess we'll allow it. Yeah, it's a little awkward, seeing as I'm dead and all, you know. You sure are. Yeah. You sure are, buddy. Listen, that was crazy.

Yeah. That was crazy. Yeah. Yes, that was crazy. So let's... I did have it in my notes, though, that... Murder Jason?

That Tippy would die. Yeah. Was that really... No! Scripted, scripted alert. Sounds like, that's brilliant, by the way. No, are you kidding me? Every episode, after, you don't know this,

but after every episode, Amy comes to me and says, we gotta kill him. I don't blame her. He's got to go. He's got to go. No, no, there was almost zero of that I could have predicted it or planned it in advance. And I don't know if that shows on my face

if anyone's watching the video. Yeah, severe thinking brain. And then the other thing that goes through, this is what it feels like. I'm going to paint what it feels like to kill a character. You are simultaneously, you're like the tiny, like seven-year-old boy in like a Game of Thrones scenario where there's this bad guy who came and harmed your family.

And your dad goes, well, you've got to learn how to do this someday and hands you the sword to decapitate the guy. And you're like, I'm just a kid. Like, I can't do this. But then the dad's like, no, you must. Like, there's no one else, actually. And then you go, I am not read. And you're both of those people in that moment as a dungeon master going, I couldn't, though.

How could I? And then the other part of you is going, well, no, you have to. Like, there's not another way around this. So I'm having this dialogue with myself. Oh, it's something that I appreciate about you as a storyteller. And also just like the act of the collaborative storytelling that is D&D or playing a tabletop RPG is that actions must have consequences. Yeah, actions must have consequences. And y'all's roles were saving you for the most part.

Like you could tell that none of you were out of harm's way and at all, ever. Like never. You just weren't. And all of you for lack of, you had some good roles, some middle roles, some bad roles. And then and then it's just like, well, if you're going to make. a big splash like that. Nothing felt low stakes in this episode. Yeah.

I know. I was tense the whole episode and what big props to you, by the way, as our DM for being A, brave enough. Like it does take so much to kill a character. You don't want to see him go. And I think, you know, like there was never, even the moment I rushed off initially, I was like prepared for the worst. I was already so tense and like, this is not, this feels overwhelming.

We're only level three. You're only level three. And narratively, goofs have worked. Yeah. You know, they've worked up until. Goofs and guffaws and gaffs, they've all worked. The heist was so fun. The marked was pretty fun.

And everything has been fairly balanced and pretty cool. And then it's just the side of virilia is a big, Yeah, a death cult. It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, there's one scary person, and that's Kaya. And here, Kaya is such a, like, a little aunt. Kaya's being tortured.

Kaya wasn't just torturing, she was ripped asunder in one of the most horrifying scenes of the entire show. Yeah, so far. Terrible, so far. I'd say for me the most horrifying, definitely so far. And it is like, this is the moment where, you know, we're halfway through the series,

and like, for a better, for lack of a better term, This is where shit gets real, where it's like, yeah, like, it's fun to joke around. It's fun to have fun. But, like, in a story, you get to a point where it's like you really have to start, like, like you said there have to be consequences. Like, there have to be things that can't just be as much fun as we have doing Scooby-Doo and silly things and fun chases. I can't minor illusion my way out of this.

Yeah. No, you can't. It was a really calculated decision to make everyone pretty anonymous behind hoods and cloaks. Like, that gives you some leeway. but only some. Yeah. And look, like, as a player, it was so hard for me to be like, it's, you know, my mind goes to like, okay, what's the MinMax way of doing this?

Like, how do I make sure I achieve success? But I think things really shifted in my brain when busy through the dart. I was like, well, now there's really no way out. And she's being captured and my friend's going to die. And I think there was a part of me, I know it sounds dramatic, but a part of my brain was just like, you're not Jason anymore, you are Tippy,

you have to save busy, you have to do something now because your bullshit is not working at all. So he had to have his little moment. And did I think I would die? I wasn't sure. You know what I was, you know? I mean, how would I know? I don't know.

It's not like, like I said, it's not like I have it written down, like, okay, if X, Y, and Z happens, Everyone dies. I feel like there's a scenario where it's like, if you'd been like, let them go and I'll get you the chalice. Like, I have the chalice and I can get that to you. Oh, interesting.

Like that's, that's an avenue we could have perhaps taken to sort of bargain with this death code. Yeah, but Tippi's an agent of chaos. And the dice were not in our favor. No, the dice are not. And this is one of those times where it's like the dice tells the story because had the dice bit in our favor more so for other things,

we would have had that wiggle room for negotiation. And we would have had room for like other story avenues where we would have been able to like stealthily get out of that before our friend was like, shoot up murdered. But we just didn't, again, the dice decided it is act two and we're about to make things really hard for you. It was such a sick moment where you throw this dart and you crit.

You crit on the big boss, like the most important guy there. Just wanting to do a distraction in my dice when it comes to rolling attacks isn't like trying to get me crits. So I was like, oh, yeah, I'll know this. It'll be a distraction and it'll be like a small thing. And then we'll have like room to be able to figure out how to like get up to the stage stealthily. And then it was like, nope, like hits, does damage. Exactly.

You crit on him and he just turns and is like, sends this enforcer to go try and psychically dominate you. Yeah. And it's so scary because you're like, that was nothing to him. He just lost 14 hit points. and he's just like, this is like a fly landed on my shoulder. Exactly. And when that sinks in, you're like, oh, we are so out of our element with this guy right now.

We are not equipped to handle this man. And there's a version of this where Thresh prepares you a little better, and it didn't really go that way. What happened during the preparation phase? No, don't worry about it. But they're going to be running on. No, I mean, the version is basically more of a little bit like, oh no, this is, you know, a big deal.

The high stakes, very scary. But I just kind of decided, look, Thresh sees that you're part of Unzug's Lair is impressed. You kind of are, you know some stuff. There's something going on. And she's just like, you know, I'm scrappy. They're probably scrappy too. And I love how it turned out. But yeah, this, this, to me, this is kind of like.

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Well, I don't know. You kind of know what you're dealing with now and it's not, if you thought you would, would be fighting this group right now in episode 10, you know, like right after the Fiends Union or whatever, it's like, oh, there's just no. Oh no, it's something I love about stories like this.

And it reminds me of like my first experience playing a game, like Eldon Ring, for example, where you face this gigantic boss and you're like, well, they put it here. I'm supposed to fight this creature and I'm supposed to defeat this creature. Or, but in just getting our asses handed to us so definitively is such a humbling moment as characters and it's just like, oh, total rewiring of the brain and realizing, wow,

it's like when Luke Skywalker gets his hand cut off in Empire Strikes Back, you're like, that's not supposed to happen to the main character. To the hero, totally. Yeah, and now it's definitely, obviously for like the audience and for us, like there's like the real stakes of like, oh, like the world is like genuinely, like in this episode we've got so much lore and we learned so much about what the plan is and how bad it's going to be. And this one, this isn't even close to the plan being the plan. This was just evil people doing evil stuff they could do whether or not this goes, and it's awful.

So now everyone has this idea of like, oh, the world is like, we are screwed. Like, if this is what they can do on this small scale before they've even achieved their goals, we got to, this has to be stopped. Like, this cannot be allowed to happen. And for a reference, you could easily Google this, but for reference, a dragon turtle's challenge rating is 17. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, when you described that this like whole areas

was just plunged into darkness because of the scale of the creature, I'm like, oh, this is clearly some kind of terror of the deep. It absolutely is a terror of the deep, yeah. To me, it goes to show like how lucky we've been as these minions to have gotten as far as we have with our hijinks, right? And it's like a very sombering lesson in stakes. But I feel like I understand that I'm a chaotic person and player. And I understand that sometimes I make decisions because I just feel like Tippy wouldn't have it any other way in like sort of a hijinks situation.

But the running off in the beginning was really like for the stakes for Tippy. he already said, like, I don't care about this God stuff. I don't care about this chalice stuff. I care about saving Pecora. 100%. And to know that she was chained up and there's this death cult and they're on their way to do this. In his mind, the worst is happening.

She's been sacrificed. He had to go, right? It had to go, right? Of course it made sense. You got pretty far. I will say you got pretty far. You actually kept getting, and it's like at some point there is this inflection point

where people are clocking. I got on stage. You got on stage. You shrunk the dais, you grew the dais. There's just stuff. The dais shrunk. Oh my God. The just like, oh my God, the pain of realizing that I keep forgetting we're underwater.

Because I hear dome and I'm like, oh, there's no water in here. But realizing we were underwater and then everyone just stays put after I try to drop the floor from under them, I'm just like, okay. All right. I wasted one of, I just got level two spells. I know. I think that's where you as players and characters were, which is like, okay, I'm going to try this cool thing. Oh, my God.

Like, that couldn't have worked even, like, further from what I meant it to do. Oh, okay, I've got this other cool thing. Absolutely not. And it's not that I built this. This, if I were to say what the CR for this encounter was, it'd be too much. Like, you know, you don't put a CR-17 monster anywhere. near. We're not meant to fight our way out of this.

Right. No, no, 100%. But it also is like at every point, it's like, well, these guards, I don't know, it's, it was a risk. It was such a risk to plan this out. Like, literally, each of us on our way in, beefed it somehow. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you,

you're seahorse catering manager. I can't wait until Varsish comes back. Varsish. And tries to find Pizzy. Busy. So I had to step out and... What happened?

Oh, I don't know. Just a little thing called under the weather. You know, eight blades going into Tippy's body at once, maybe. But like, for you guys, what was that like? Like, what was going through your heads, you know, for the rest of the encounter? Or when that happened. Yeah. Well, it's just shocking because it's like, again, before, like we've been, even when things have had stakes,

it's always been like, there's a little bit of fun. a little bit of like silliness, and this was like, drop the hammer, like, no kids, you are in real life, like you are no longer in, these are not like playground rules. No plot armor. Yeah, you have entered the real world

and even a part of the plot of this, of the overarching thing, and that many characters have said over and over again, is it's weird that because of like how lowly our position is, even in the dungeon that we're in, there's no reason where we are, as you said, like we are code, we are nothing,

We are walked back and forth. We shouldn't have even been able to make it out of the dungeon. Yeah. And so, and there's always been, like, it's been weird that we've been able to do as much as we have. And I think now, like, we've brushed against what in universe has already been so weird. And it really, and it's like, no, you're not,

no matter what, like, the plot, you know, the on-purpose plot armor was that you were having through all of this, that isn't going to, go forever. And it really is, so much of this is not just them. Like, this is, I mean, it really is kind of a coming of age story for all of these characters. And so this is one of those big moments where it's like, we are going to have to grow up quickly because we do have things that we are starting to learn and care about that are on this plane. And this plane is now in danger. And again, we haven't even seen the worst of it. And we know that the rest of it is

coming. And so then when Tippi, like, dies right in front of us. And obviously, we've seen death. We've been around death. We did live in a dungeon where people were tortured. Also, our reaction to Kaya's torture compared to the way that we would have reacted the first episode was this was, like, disturbing and upsetting. And as we are growing and growing empathy and, like, learning about a life beyond, we didn't like Kaya. We don't want, and we even joke like, yeah, oh, you can kill her. That's fine. And we didn't want that to happen to Kaya. That was like genuinely disturbing. That's what Throft said.

They may be one step ahead of you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For me, I mean, incredibly well put, especially with that parallel to episode one where we conducted the exit interview on people being tortured and left them on the rack as we left Eunzug's lair.

And this was just, this was visceral in comparison. Like that felt like loony tunes, like in episode one in terms of like if you think back and compare it, compared to you. what we just witnessed, it's just truly wild. But for me, when that happened, it was just, I went through like all five stages of grief where I'm just like, I'm shocked. I'm like, I can't believe what's happening.

I'm angry at Jason for making this decision. You took you away from us. I'm like frantically looking through my spell sheet to be like, what spells do I have? How can I interrupt this? What can I do? I don't have that level, of trickeration up my sleeve.

And then I'm just accepting that he is dead. And trying to be like, okay, because I'm like, can I get his body out of here somewhere? Busy's still in chains. Pecora and Crandall are still in chains. I have not been discovered yet. I don't know what to do. And then it was honestly the mechanic of

the chaos with the death frenzy. If we didn't have that, I don't know. I was like, okay, the best I can do is to try and hope to get busy out of here alive and we will try and figure out a way to rebuild or rescue Tippy at a later date. We'll try to find his corpse, assuming it doesn't get... But when he's like, oh yeah, they're feeding corpses

to the giant murder monster, I'm like, okay, well... I got shit. I'm worried. Back there, I was like, they're doing what to the corpses? Yeah. You're now cheapy. You're going to... be dipping.

Yeah. Shiffy and ditty. I don't think I've killed a character like this. You know what I mean? Where it's just, and it reminds me that like, well, I thought about this many times in my life, how a verb can be. It's so short. It's like, what, four or five, maybe seven letters or something. And that's it.

And then that's the verb. Like, die. You die. But it, like, it's bigger, you know, like, it should be more words or it should take longer to say that. And like being the person who's like, yes, you are dead. It's like, excuse me, like, we don't have like a 24-hour song to sing, you know, that means that. It's like, oh, no, it's just, you're gone. Yeah, it was, you know, you were rolling the dice, and it was like, that's one dice, that's two dice, that's three, that's four, that's five, that's six.

And then I was like, there's no way. There's no way I'm going to survive that. She just keeps peeking up dice and rolling them. I did the math and double-checked and you're right. Like, Permadeath is what, you know, when you roll more than your hit points plus your constitution. So, yeah, I was dead. And there's nothing I could do about it. I get it for folks who play and want their characters to have that plot armor,

want their characters to have, like, that level of survivability. And I understand, like, you don't want to just, there are some systems that lend themselves to, like, intense PC lethality, like a morcborg or a call of Cthulhu or something. like that. You expect your character to probably bite it, like old school cyberpunk or something like that. With D&D, like you're this hero of legend. Like, you expect them to kind of survive to live another day. So when a character finally dies, it has that like visceral impact, especially after so many episodes of seeing Tippy's growth to see it just like cut short like that in this episode is just like, it's shocking. It's very shocking. It's very shocking.

Which was wild because we kept making jokes before that happened. I don't remember if it was in this episode or in the episode previously, but we kept making jokes, oh, it was in the previous episode, I think, where we would keep making jokes about, like, oh, you know, I don't know about what, you know, oh, you keep mentioning like a live thing, because I don't know what alive things are. We're dead and, like, joking like, ha, ha, we're dead, we're dead. Tippy's alive, but we're dead. He-he-he-he-h-h-h-h-h-h-h.

And it's like, Tippy's dead and we're alive? You know, like, that weird inverse of, like, that feeling. Yeah, this was definitely going through. that joy of coming through and crossing the planes and being hugged and embraced by magic and leveling up and discovering all of these... And it's light and many colors. Yeah, these new things about ourselves. And then, you know, in the end of this episode, now

everything is just like dark and uncertain and scary. And we had all of that hope. We had a magical girl transformation for goodness six. And now you're carrying your dead friend's body going down a water slide with my buddy's corpse. Yeah, the whole thing about Earnker Fathom is that it once was really special and magical and like used for good and then and then you get the sight of Aurelia inside it and it just, yeah, becomes toxic pretty quickly. And what's fun about the visuals of being underwater

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It matters where you stay. Hilton for the stay. I mean, just planning it was like, oh yeah, what does blood do in water? Like it makes a cloud. It doesn't just... It was great. It was just... It was just... It was painted such a gruesome visual.

And like the... Obviously this cult is made of like fanatics whipping themselves into a frenzy and like... And killing each other. Like it's... It is a death cult. Like, I mean... I mean, that's all you know. I mean, you can do the math that like the guards on the end were going to keep closing in until...

I'm not summoning the angel for Axis. Yeah. In your head, did you... Were you ever were... that there'd be a party wipe, like, that we may all kick the bucket in this episode? I did text earlier today after we shot another episode. I just texted one of the story producers, what if they fail, question mark? So that's as far as I went, honestly.

We turn back into a bone pile. Right, right. But so, like, there was a version where I was like, you know, you start playing and you're like, oh, yeah, like, I didn't build this according at all, according to challenge rating, the way, the way that D&D says, you know, third level care, the math doesn't check. I didn't build this at all like that. Maybe I should. I'm going to change, maybe I change some of these monsters.

Maybe some of these are commoners, you know, like, and I'm doing that math and, like, moving. like trying to just go backwards and go, maybe not, maybe not Amy, maybe we flew too close to the sun. Maybe I shouldn't take them to the Demon King Stadium. But it was so, like I needed that too because I needed everything has been not easy for you, but it's been fairly smooth sailing.

It has almost felt like you have plot armor on some level. Like you've earned your stripes, but then it was like, but here's what you're up against. And if you're going for it, and that is where Pekara is, then we're showing, we're going to show you what you're up against in season five. You know, in season five. Like, not this time at all.

This is us walking away from, like, the burning building, like, that's exploding, and then we step on a landmine. Totally, totally. Except, yeah, pretty motivated, too. Like, I will say, like, that character moment. The way things were going for you, once it started, I don't know if you could clock over my facial expression, but I was like, there's going to be an inflection point,

and I do not know what I'm going to do when that happens. There were several points during the episode where I looked at you, and you were just like, that's what you're doing? Yeah, okay. Yeah. All right, you set it out loud, and you're not taking it. I know, and I wish I had more of a poker face, but it is like, oh my God. But we're all confidently making these choices.

Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah. Like even when, like, even when I like, something as innocent as me realizing, oh, that's not how this spell works in water. Right. Yeah, we're not reconning. We could easily be like, oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, let's take that, but let's not do that.

It's more satisfying to be like, well, that didn't work. Yes, exactly. How can we make this work? Yeah, so fails, like, you know, every failed dice roll, I think, that last episode made me go, fuck, like, damn it, every single time. Good. I, I, myself was going, was clock, I'm going to have to cry after this because I was going, we don't have time to cry. Don't cry. Why would, we're not crying.

We're not doing that. So we're actually doing a show, so we're not going to cry. And I can't cry because I've got to keep the story going. But, but like after this freaking talkback and we all go home, like, I'm going to need an emotional release. Right. Actually, seeing you, like, so you left the stage, and we do these talkbacks right, we do these talkbacks right after the episode, but when you came back, it was like maybe, I don't know, 30, 40 minutes later. And I was like, oh my God, it's Jason.

Yeah. Dude, you all have that. I was like, oh, oh, he's okay. There he is. He's right there in front of me. There's definitely, like, I was definitely in shock for a little bit. Like, when I am anxious or scared or shocked, all I know how to do is laugh.

And so like a maniac, I was in the corner of being like, ha ha, I'm dead. I died. I really like Tippy. Oh, no. Yeah, all I wanted to do was keep cracking jokes. Yeah, yeah. I was getting to do it.

We're already on the gallows, so gallows humor is what comes next. That's it. And then, you know, I got really worried for you guys. I got really scared that. I was like, well, she killed me. She's gonna kill. She'll kill another one of you.

Run! Run! Run again! I've got the taste! I've got the taste of layer blood! When Kaya was getting ripped apart, I was like, oh no, guys, dip right. No more hijinks. Dip, let's go.

I was already trying to figure out an escape route when things accelerated in an extreme manner. Beginning with the dart herd around the world. Yeah. We might need a warning for body horror. Yeah, we'll probably put a content warning on the world. a content warning on the previous episode, just to give people a heads up. On a lighter note, what were your thoughts

when we all split up at the very beginning? Yeah, some of it seemed by design. You know, we knew that Busy wanted to be a server, but then, yeah, you shot off in the dark. And I, I purposefully, I don't know. Like at that point, it's kind of like, well, you did it, let's see, let's, you make your bed, let's lie in it. This isn't something that I haven't,

run into before, but I, it's one of those, like, doing turns doesn't make sense. It was exciting to me, though, because in a way, it harkened back a little bit to the chase mechanics from an earlier episode where we were chasing Crandall through the streets of Nacbrecha. And in this case, it was like longer scenes with each person, but it's all kind of playing out simultaneously, and it's very exciting because it's cutting back and forth and we're like, none of us have that awareness of what the other's doing. especially when I was like, oh, we have the sending stones. No, we don't because

you threw it. You threw it away. I threw it and it wouldn't have worked anyways, but it would have been, I could have fixed it though. Sure. It's something I could have done. I know. I know you could have. We don't have that. I think the biggest like what you, and props to you again, because this one did catch me big time by surprise, is that moment where they were all chanting and I was like, well, I'm just going to chant along too the way Tippy would chant along.

and to be caught in that moment and be like, well, why you roll a performance? That was so good. And failing that role was like, oh. Well, I mean, Jason, it's an easy chant. I was just going, mm, mm, mm, and you went, or whatever the hell. I was like.

Well, yeah, he's not gonna do it, right? Well, that matters. I know. That matters. Yeah, but the dice were not on my side in that moment, and it was bad. No. No, I did want there to be,

especially in all of Earned Kerr Fathom, this feeling of heavily being surveilled, almost like the KGB, and like surveilling even your neighbors and people you love and going, is everyone saying the right thing? Because Sithe of Rale is no joke. And even day-to-day activities are going to be like, well, are we behaving correctly? And so, especially in the abyssium where everyone knows what to do, yeah, you're going to be. I saw a fish there last month.

They were great. Yeah, you're gonna be clacks. What was your plan when you were throwing the dart? Was it really was to create a distraction? Like what was the follow-up in your head that was going to happen after? Yeah, so it was, busy, busy was so upset by what was happening to Kaya. And even with all of the joking about,

oh, Kaya can die, whatever, it was really upsetting and just viscerally terrible. And I just couldn't stand watching it. So it was a thing of like, get him to stop doing that, Plus also then her arbitrarily pointing out people to get, like trying to save any more people from being arbitrarily killed. I'm like, if I throw this, then like maybe it'll just be just enough for him to be like, what is that? Let's go find out who that is. I didn't think he was going to automatically know it was me.

And then that could be an incident where he's like, he gets upset. He like lets her go. The pointing and everything stops. And then maybe it becomes more investigation. And then we have time to kind of slink in around under that. instead of it being, because at that moment, again, she is being horrifically tortured and also every person she's pointing at,

there's just like, innocent person, dead, innocent person, debt, innocent person, dead, innocent person, we were up to like, what, like five or six people at that point. So it was like, I want to do. They're all cyber really, yeah, but I know what you're saying. But yeah, but it's also because I think... There's no justice. It's random. It's random. And I think it's also because we've already established earlier in the episode,

like you said, so many of them are living in this way because that is the way that they have to be because of this is what's happening, how many of them are actually here of their own choice and how many of them are here because there are consequences to people they love for being there. And like how many are conscripted, like how many people like don't want to be in there and I'm just playing around. How many are seat fillers? Like did they not sell out the Abysseum? Yeah. How many of them, just on their monster stat block, just say evil without any personality to explain it. Right. And so I think that's the other thing, too, is because we'd already seen that there were so many people when Busy was talking with the Murph folks, and they're like, it's not up to us to have an opinion that sticks with her.

It's like, oh, so all these people being murdered, maybe it's not up to us too. They're also victims. And so in that moment, Busy was trying to stop that from happening, save as many of these people and see if we can disrupt this to make something else happen. Well, you paid the price as well. That did need to get punished. Yeah, and I love, I mean, I don't know, I use sleight of hand many times for like, to see if someone notices, like sometimes your spells being cast, you need to do something. It just, it's another version of stealth, but it's also like, yeah, you threw the dart. Let's just see if you were able to hide that you threw it, even in this vast audience of people. And unfortunately, yeah, you don't even know. I mean, this guy's not to be messed with.

The horror movie moment of Michael Myers looking directly at you all of a sudden. Like, oh, he noticed from the stage. Yes. He's like, you. Yeah, and then, and then go get her locker up, feed her to my little. Yeah, feed her to my little turdy in this guy. On that hopeful note, we are hurtling into darkness on the last water slide out of town. I am very nervous and very curious about what's going to happen next episode,

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