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hello and welcome back to sagas of sundry quest and answers I'm Dan Casey and we're here to
Talk about the latest episode of Goblin Mode.
Folks, it was a doozy.
I know I say that like every episode,
but this episode was legally a doozy.
You find any tort lawyer, whatever that means in the country,
they will say, this is a doozy, and they will back me up.
But it's not just me.
I'm joined once again by my amazing cast.
Daniel Radford, that wouldn't be tort.
Sorry.
I shouldn't know that, but that.
I'm Amy for Paul.
Hi, I'm Jason Wynne.
And our special guest.
Hello, I'm Ifiwadi Way.
I am so stoked to talk about this episode,
but as always, folks, there are spoilers here.
There'd be spoilers.
So watch out if you haven't seen the latest episode
of Goblin Mode, tread carefully because otherwise,
no, blame yourself.
These are your choices and they led you right here.
But for everyone else is sticking around,
let's talk about this episode.
First and foremost, we gotta welcome the amazing captain
to our midst.
Yepy, we're so stoked to have you here.
Tell us about your character
and like the creation process.
working with Amy to have him join us this episode.
Yeah, no, it was real great.
I mean, Amy made it so easy for me.
I have all these notes because just had a breakdown of the world
and basically where, like, Ray Tel comes in play.
And, you know, super easy because you made it just this stat block.
So really, all that stuff's just squared away.
So really is just kind of fleshing out where Ray Tel stands.
and, you know, I imagine, you know, we'll find this out more and more as we go along that he's a kind of aloof person, but he's very, he cares more so about the well-being of the crew and make sure everyone is their truest selves, because I just imagine that since he's, you know, the captain of this crew that has nowhere else to go, he wants people to just kind of live in their truth, which is why I feel like he really kind of, kind of,
of like, needleed in on Tippy.
I was like, no, you're gonna say how you feel.
We're not gonna let it be hidden and be scared
of who we really are.
I love that.
In your character creation process, at what point
were you like, I'm gonna make this character
the hottest character so far to come along?
What's the deal?
Nine feet tall, full of chest hair, stacked, you know what I mean?
Meanwhile, that's just how Oni's look.
You know, I really just.
Big Blue Buff and Hoaree, let's go.
They're just like super giant nine feet tall, you know, horned guys that are muscular.
So I was like, yeah, I think the only change I really made was make them have, you know, locks instead of, you know, straight hair.
So they came hot pre-made.
No, I would say onies are not customarily hot.
I think we, I think it's like when you mix Iffy with any monster, you're going to get some sort of daddy vibe.
When you multi-classes in your feed becomes canonically high, it makes sense to me.
When I mix in, I get a sweaty goblin.
You know what I mean?
It's a Jason guarantee.
I will say, like, what you said, Danielle, as busy when you were like, well, one of them's frowning, which was smelly, and one of them is smiling, and that is Captain Raytel.
I was like, that was like, that was like, that was like, oh, good, they, like understand the dynamic of who actually Captain Raytelg is, who is this beloved.
beloved character who, you know,
you can tell may or may not deserve by the smarts
of the captainship, but as far as the mascot version
and the leadership, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, like when you kind of were talking to me
about the kind of smelly dynamic,
I really, in my head was like, okay,
he's like Duke Senior for all on his Shakespeare
and it's out there where, you know,
he's leading off of charisma.
Like people like them because they want to follow him,
not necessarily because he has the best plans,
but he is smart enough to surround himself
with people who can get things done.
And the wielding of the glaive too.
Yeah, glaive confidence.
It's a step above gun confidence.
And when charisma fails, there's a glaive.
But no, he's clearly got that emotional intelligence as well,
which is important to keep a crew aloft.
I also loved the whole kind of corsair vibe
that we got from this airship,
because to me it felt very different
in flavor than the rest of the marked
in a very cool way because of course
the people piloting their airship
would be just this like badass
group of sky pirates so I dug that
in particular. Yeah, I will say
there when
when I learned about Sundaris
which was very little just presented to me
and what the theme of this show
would be it was
I made it my own pretty fast
but there was
the marked as part of the faction
that I was like, oh, there's something
here that I want to tap into.
And making them all
lichenthropes or the theme of
monster and human
or both or neither was something
I really thought, oh, that'll be what the
marked is. And so, yeah, if
he was going to be
this only who could shape shift
just backwards, kind of. I lost
my mind when you turned into a baby.
I'm like, did they pre-plan this?
Yeah, I was like, how
as possible.
Yeah.
No,
Oni's by nature,
I mean,
it's one of those,
it's one of those
just kind of monsters
that just goes back and forth
and I don't know,
there's lots of shape-shifting monsters
in D&D,
but I thought, yeah,
like, yeah,
Ones are specifically on theme,
but, you know,
the photonegative version
of Lichenthropes in the Marked.
Yeah, that was great.
And I loved all the stuff with Smelly.
I think for busy in particular,
like,
Ellie is just the pirate version of Busy.
I did not know that was going to happen.
When you started bonding with her, I was like, oh, yeah.
Because at first is that thing of like when you see yourself and Busy's like,
oh, I hate her.
And then it's like, Busy's like, oh, like we're the same.
Like the way that she, like, the deference she treats her captain,
the way that she wants to be taken seriously, like the way that she needs validation.
And so Busy was immediately like just two middle managers just like coming together.
To do middle management.
The goal was smelling was just because I knew I was packing a lot of lore onto Iffy
just coming in for a guest spot.
And I thought, well, what's a character that could support him?
And also really, like, to me, someone who's, like, over-emphasizing what the stakes are all
the time does have, like, have a stick up her ass.
So that was just the onus of the character was just going like, oh, I need to support Iffy
and go like, this is important.
kind of for everything.
And it's a good thing we had a character like Smelly
because we did learn some pretty campaign-shaking lore this episode.
Oh, yeah.
You know, the death cults, the scythe of Aurelios,
who resurrected the Demon King Faraxis
and one of the most significant events of the entire campaign,
the searing.
So, you know, just some minor things for us to maybe follow up on in context.
Yeah, I mean, look,
It's very, like the Fains United is connected, highly connected, in a way that you're just now learning
it is very important in a very important way.
Well, we got confirmation that they hire the gallantlings and like it's official that they're, yeah, we hate them.
And they're an umbrella, they're part of an umbrella corporation, which to me screams that they're not really a union and this is astroturfing.
That's what that says to me.
It is 1,000%.
I mean, look, even their leader is lying about who she is.
Kyah.
Yeah.
Now I feel extra not bad.
Yeah.
About blowing up their mansion?
Yeah, yeah.
It had to go.
It looked really cool.
We have our priorities
and our priorities are what goes, boom.
Well, and also it's like you,
this information may or may not matter to the mark.
You have no idea.
But as far as your characters,
it's like there's a lot there's a lot there,
especially with your loyalties to Unzug.
Still.
Yeah.
I mean, definitely still feeling a deep sense of loyalty to Eun-Zug,
but kind of questioning things as well because we don't know.
It seems like everyone knows Eun-Zug in a way that we don't,
because we're so far down the ladders.
Yeah, they've seen him at the grocery store.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They, like, know him casually outside of work,
and we're just, like, that is our god king,
and everything he does is amazing.
I want to say that I was prepared to offer some of this,
information to you. I was not prepared to offer as much as I did if you couldn't tell.
If you had rolled a net 20.
Oh, no, no, no.
And then I, and then I kind of, God, I think I'm correct that none of you all have
abyssal. And in my head, I was like, I mean, like, this is one of those magical dungeon
master moments where you're like, okay, I just have to make a call. It's in abyssal.
And then Danielle the Bard, it just comes all the way in with comprehend languages, which means
I had decisions to make.
I mean, on a natural 20, you want to reward that, right?
And so there is very much lore that you found out
that I was really, really not prepared to have you find out
in episode seven.
My brain is tickling with all of this new,
like the information about being unskeletoned.
I'm sure there's a better word for that.
Deboned.
Deboned.
Deboned.
Deboned.
But you know, there's all that information
about that and Kaya and then just I'm putting things together because going back a couple of
episodes when Busy had her pre-death like flashback and and what kind of that could mean about
like what you know that could mean about her death we do know that she was involved in with a
cult of some kind so is this the only cult or the like other like evil cults is like this involved
is this, and that was kind of like, for busy,
that was the first thing she thought was like,
well, I was like probably part of an evil cult
when I was living, so like, is this my cult?
Excuse me, sir, are you my cult?
Well, that one was an eye on fire with a halo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's why I was like,
can I look at the logo?
Yeah, no, different cult.
Different cult.
Not my cult, sorry guys.
I'm having a lot of fun, because I know this is The Year of the Mind,
with sigil descriptions,
descriptions for different factions and what they mean, but also for the Sundari.
And the fact that y'all are picking that up is really special.
That's like that's also why I just want to ask a bunch of clarifying questions just for my own edification.
So I'm like, wait, how high up are we?
So I don't, I'm like, I jump off the side.
Seriously. Oh my gosh, I can't imagine.
It would be funny though.
I'm just curious if who survived that, that explosion.
at the beginning of the episode.
I think Tippy is very curious about that.
If they know what's us and how bad they're going to be.
Yeah, that's a big, I mean, let's talk about that because that...
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It's just a middle ground of morality, actually.
Yeah, I think it was definitely like a crossroads
for Tippy to sort of decide what kind of goblin he is.
And I think for any sort of, you know,
like he's never seen the world, much less blew it up
with a bunch of explosives.
So I think it would have hit differently
if he hadn't seen a cobald right in front of the explosion
explosion as it happened and I think that's sticking with him a little bit.
Yeah, the eye contact. Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. So I guess my question for you as the
DM is at what point did you realize you were going to have Piccarra get captured?
Yeah, look, that's a tricky one. I don't want to answer that question.
That is something, I mean, there's like lots of math that you're doing.
You try to prepare for as many hypotheticals as possible in between the episodes.
And that's all I'll say about that.
But I do know, I will say, the one thing that I will say is that I had no idea that there would be such an emotional attachment to Picara.
A pekora.
It's a pecorra.
Come on.
My accent makes it, but cool, raw.
But I, so there's a lot that's driven mostly by, yeah,
what the players do and who they're attached to.
So this Pekara attachment is definitely turning into something.
Well, if you're going to put another goblin tinker out there that's like,
you know, the only goblin of the opposite sex that Tippi's ever seen,
then he's going to fall in love.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he knew this not to me.
That's all the tank.
When he made out with a statue, if he were.
Yeah.
As a new baby out in the world for the first time.
I'm not a baby.
Sure.
You are baby now.
Also, can we just get for your lower thirds now from Rob from Phibs?
Can we just put not a totally dumb skeleton?
Oh, no.
I loved your weird like deduction ace attorney like moment.
That was incredible, actually.
Oh, no.
I got it.
I didn't see that at all.
Sometimes you're just talking.
You just talk and talk and say things and it affects people.
But one thing that happened with Ify that was just this magical moment of just improv was when it was an inside joke, right?
Dungeon Dollars? Just an inside joke.
But you offer it to Captain Rattelk and the look on your face when they say dungeon dollars is like, what are you talking?
Which is perfect because, yeah, in the world, that's nothing.
Yeah, you're like, huh?
I also loved that they had their own version of sidebar, which is corner conversation.
Yeah.
Incredible power move.
What is that?
Like, as a player, because I know you've done so much tabletop before, like, what was it like coming into a group that had so many hijinks and inside jokes?
And, like, was it easy to pick up on, or did you feel like you were trying to, like, catch up all done?
Well, I mean, like, you know, I think it's not lost on the Internet that we're all friends.
So that's true.
So one, that makes it very easy, but two, you know, kind of like watching before I even hopped in and seeing the way that y'all were kind of like playing and the jokes that you had, I was like, okay, cool, I kind of know where I'm going to stand and all this.
And then really it was like once I got in the seat and waited to see how y'all reacted to me and then what I was going to give back.
So I think, you know, kind of seeing that when y'all were like, he's so cool.
And he's like, well, then I can't do the same thing
as y'all have to come up with this cool, different
version.
We don't sidebar up here.
We have cool.
We have one. It's very different.
He's so cool.
Immediately cool, captain.
Well, it's also, it makes sense as well
because we clearly respect people in positions of authority
based on our, coming from an overlord structure.
Like, Lee's the captain, so we got to pay homage.
Yes.
What was it like to have, I mean, it's such a small moment,
you made a meal of it a bit
is to have the...
That's the campaign in a nutshell.
Like, hey, Ed, right behind this door,
there's like 30,000 gold.
We're like, yeah, but what if we stayed
on some bullshit for 15 minutes?
I had three moments planned, and we have 20 episodes.
It was when you
got the go-ahead to be the one
revealing the loot.
Oh, that was...
Yeah, it was unexpected.
Because we were all sort of like talking
about it, but then we kept talking up to the point
of showing the loot and getting distracted,
which is very us.
I don't know, I like that we were able to
do it as a team. It felt fitting.
Also, getting to touch Unzug's ceremonial
sheet. He slept on that.
Yeah, he did. And he'll sleep on it again, because he's still
out there somewhere. That's right. Can't believe he
is coming back. Daddy's coming back for us.
Can't believe he didn't pack his sheets in his own
bag that he packed.
That's right. Deeply disillusioning
moment.
Well, I mean, if he did, then people would know what he's up to.
I'm very excited to learn more about some of these items,
especially hearing their full names mentioned,
like the Chalice of Kiercon, the staff of Robert,
the documents.
The documents.
The readme.p.D.F. I'm very excited.
I want to know iffy.
I want to hear a little bit more about y'all's back and forth,
you and Tippy with the romance.
and like and the wingman and like also suggesting that oh there's another like getting to the heart of it with the suggesting there's another man at play oh oh yeah that's great yeah I just I because I feel like in that moment you know
Ray Telg is it knows what's going on like he's on to you and he's almost kind of trying to get it out of you instead of just taking you at your word because like I said you know he's the he's the he's the
of this group of people that he wants to finally be able to live openly and truthfully.
So like any version of like hiding your true self or intentions, he's going to attack immediately.
And you know, there's going to be like bigger reasons and things at play is that I will spring on to Amy in the moments of future episodes as to why Raytell has this philosophy.
But that's for other episodes.
I love it.
I love it. Oh no. That sounds like a threat.
That's a promise.
You need somebody like Ray Tal because, you know, because these, we share a bond that's so, like, quick that it's like if Tippi's like, I'm fine, they're like, okay.
You know what I mean?
You know, because to get like super and this is probably just going to flesh out more, the more I think of about being Ray Tel.
The more I think about his philosophy and where they stand within this world, he's probably looking at y'all as, you know, these former servants of a big boss.
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You don't need to be an arm of the man.
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And I mean, that just goes to, I gave you a list of, like, loot that the,
that the marked does just have on hand.
And for you to make that decision that, oh, they could take the challenge.
with them, that did surprise me.
That was one of those like, okay, okay.
Like, that's why Smelly herself was like,
really?
We're gonna do this?
But the way you explained it, I mean, makes perfect sense.
Like it is dangerous to keep it up here.
They might deserve it, they could use it,
and it does seem to be a big player
in the grander scheme of things too.
Yeah, because I feel like, you know,
the way he looks at it is
with everything that was revealed
in that great, you know,
Nat 20 roll, there's an element where it's like, oh, he just found out that he has something
that can bring more issues than need be. And I feel like his utmost, you know,
ideas protecting like everyone in the mark, everyone at the wretched cove, he wants to make sure.
So having this item that he knows that essentially this death cult is actively searching for,
It's only a matter of time before they figure out that they have it, and then he has to defend himself against them.
Or give it to these adventurers where in my head canon in stories like this, the NPCs or like guest players are aware of adventurers and how they are just bouncing around the world.
So he's like, I'm going to just give this to y'all.
And if need be, you know, the way that the marked are spread out, he'll be able to have tabs.
on like where y'all are traveling and going.
And like if y'all ended up dying,
then that's when he makes sure that someone goes and scoops it.
If y'all succeed, you know, it's like, to me,
like once you said like, oh, the marked is spread all around,
I was like, oh, then this is a very connected person
who doesn't feel the need to have to micromanage
every piece of like the chessboard
that he's actively working on.
See, that's so smart.
That's why you're the captain.
Yeah, it's so smart.
That is not how smell I would run thing.
And also to me, when you mentioned, like,
and we'll give you membership in the marked,
I'm like, that is also, like, calculated to be like,
okay, well, you're going to be part of our group,
or we're going to leverage that loyalty,
because clearly, you know, these are people who are loyal to their previous master.
If they're formally inducted, they'll presumably be loyal to us.
They won't explode our mansion.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
And this isn't the first faction you've come across either.
I think you've come across at least someone pretend,
or a woman who was a vaunted.
Wanted, that's right.
You ran across the Fiends United, of course.
Yeah, there have been some other factions, too,
that you've at least heard of.
And so you don't, yeah, there's a lot you don't know.
Auctioneers Anonymous.
Auctioneers Anonymous.
Yeah, auctioneers, who used to be actors.
Improv everywhere.
Imprope everywhere.
Exactly.
And you got your big explosion.
Yes.
Busy was wanting.
And a thrilling opening where you almost felt your untimely undefth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was a, look, that was a call in the moment where I was like, well, actually, no, we should have a role for this.
Yeah.
I thought featherfall was the right move.
It was absolutely the right move.
It just made me laugh so hard.
that you wouldn't like reach out to hold on.
I have eight strength.
But you just like imagine like you're full areas.
I am osteoporosed.
There's no cartilage.
No.
There's no bone on bone.
Deep calcium deficiency.
That's right.
A strong, if I stand by the engine, my bones would fly off.
Yes, yes.
I do have one other question.
So you are the captain of the marked, Ray Talgas.
And so you've also, you've also,
seen that these three a skeleton and a goblin are showing up in the ship.
Like, just in, maybe just a sentence in Ray Talog's word, like, what's your reaction, I guess,
to seeing your lichenthropes partnering up with two skeletons and a goblin coming from
the Fiends United, where skeletons and goblins are usually part of that faction?
I feel like it's, this should be fun.
Yeah.
I feel like he wouldn't be phased.
He's like, okay, well, if you're like rude or a problem, you're going over the side.
Yeah, exactly.
He's still nine foot tall of Odie.
Like, it's still like.
Walk the skyplike.
Has the captain ever seen a skeleton doing a basic instinct, Sharon Stone?
Well, she had the chair.
She had the chair in front of her.
It's more cool than sleazy, like more.
More like dangerous minds.
Yeah, right, okay, all right.
We have a problem here.
Although now that that's on the table,
I am going to Sharon Stone someone.
You gotta share in.
There's gotta be an interrogate.
There's nothing to see,
it's all hip bone connected to the leg bone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I cast silent image.
Oh, whoa.
Magical tinkering.
All right, well, folks, on that note,
I am very excited to see what the future holds.
Very excited to see where the captain takes us.
And also, oh, wait, we should talk about where we left things
before we end this episode.
One man's trash is another man's terror.
That's what we're going to find out next time.
Yeah, pretty much, pretty much.
You know that the yester-dusters awoke something in the evil junkyard,
and you're about to find out just exactly what they awoke.
All right.
Well, we'll have to rescue Tippy's girlfriend's twin sister
from certain to do.
And yeah, I'm very excited to see where our adventure takes us next
into the sky, maybe down on the ground, below sea level.
Who knows?
The world is our oyster and we intend to eat it
provided they stop poisoning people in the Los Angeles area,
which is if you eat seafood in LA,
you can't get oysters.
They're bad for you right now.
As of the time this was filmed.
We can cut that out.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
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