Critical Role - Liam Laudna-Hands | 4-Sided Dive | Episode 6: Discussing Up To C3E32

Episode Date: September 13, 2022

Ashley Johnson, Liam O'Brien, Marisha Ray and Sam Riegel answer questions from the "Tower of Inquiry" and get competitive over a game of Crawl! 4-Sided Dive airs one Tuesday a month on http://twitch.t...v/criticalrole and http://youtube.com/criticalrole Twitch subscribers gain instant access to VODs of our shows like Critical Role, 4-Sided Dive, and Exandria Unlimited. But don't worry: Twitch broadcasts will be uploaded to YouTube about 36 hours after airing live, with audio-only podcast versions of select shows on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & Google Podcasts following a week after the initial air date. Twitch subscribers also gain access to our official custom emote set and subscriber badges and the ability to post links in Twitch chat! "Let's Roll (4-Sided Dive Theme)" by Peter Habib and Sam Riegel Original Music by Omar Fadel and Hexany Audio Additional Music by Universal Production Music, Epidemic Sounds, and 5 Alarm

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Foresighted Dive, Critical Role's monthly talk show featuring a roundtable discussion about the events and characters of our current campaign, alongside a heavy helping of hijinks. Foresighted Dive airs the first Tuesday of every month at 7pm Pacific on Twitch.tv slash Critical Role and YouTube.com slash Critical Role, with the VOD available on YouTube the very next day. And of course, each episode releases right here on the Critical Role Podcast Network one week after the initial broadcast. Let's dive into the chaos. We've seen a short story called The Jaunt, which is also would I, would I. Horrifying. Yeah, yeah. That is a horrifying short story.
Starting point is 00:00:44 What is it about? Pitch me. Do we go into it now? Yes, let's do it. I know I'm the one who has to do the dice rolls right now, but I'm really invested in this. In the future, they've created teleportation, and they're jumping back and forth between when scientists invented it
Starting point is 00:01:00 and people in modern day going like, well, we're going to Mars, so we need to go on the ship. But to do it, you have to be put to sleep. Because if you're awake when you go through this sort of portal that they've created. It's real bad? It's real bad. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:15 It's very bad. It focuses on this kid who's probably like 12, 11, 12. Child, okay. And they're going down the line, going like, all right, you go to sleep. Okay, safe travels. And the kid holds his breath. Oh!
Starting point is 00:01:26 He's like, I just wanna see what happens. That's it. All right, y'all have to roll. So kind of like Rocketman, but scary. Remember that movie Rocketman? You mean the Elton John story? Nope, nope. Is that a horror story?
Starting point is 00:01:40 Uh-huh. Okay, get ready to roll. Anyway, all right, all right, let's do this, let's do this. Here we go. Bloop. What are we trying to get, more or less this, let's do this. Here we go. Bloop. What are we trying to get, more or less? Who got the 20? That would be me.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Yay! Okay, okay, okay. Betty 20. Here we go. Wait, oh. Oh no. Get, Sam, get, get. I just sit?
Starting point is 00:02:01 Oh no, it's so tiny. Let's see what happens. This is why I should have brought my glasses. I think they're in my car. That's okay. Is she squinting? Here we go. Welcome to Foresighted Dive.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I will be your sixth tavern keeper, and boy, do we have a fun show planned for you. Oh shit, that's my phone. One sec. Hold on. Oh, hey, yes. Sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I'm shooting Foresighted Dive, but yeah, I can talk, what's up? Who's here? Ashley Johnson's here. I think she's gonna talk about like, Fae shit, maybe. I don't know, that's me. Marisha Ray is here too. And I hope she talks
Starting point is 00:02:47 more about her dolls having sex. Right. Right? No, I know. I want to know that too. Oh, oh, yeah. And Liam O'Brien parkoured into the building. Oh my God. If Orym did that, I would be losing my shit. Literally, my shit would probably be lost. Oh, you want to know who else is here? Oh, I guess Sam decided to be on the show, too, so he's here. Sam Riegel? Sam, he's the... Okay. Yeah, he plays the adorable murder bot.
Starting point is 00:03:23 With the teeth, that guy. Yes, yes, yes, yes. You got it. Oh my God, you're so right. I haven't laughed like that in so long. So long. Anyway, I just gotta, I think I gotta get back to filming.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Yeah. Yeah, talk soon. Okay. Yes. Okay, I just gotta, I think I gotta get back to filming. Yeah. Yeah. Talk soon. Okay. Yes. Okay. Talk soon. Bye. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I had to take that. That was, that was, who was that on the phone? I don't know. Who was it? It was Jerry. And Jerry, who is also my accountant, but also. Okay. Anyway, welcome to Foresighted Dive.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Let's do a fucking show. Welcome back. Let's begin the night with our open discussion segment, What the Fuck is Up With That? Aw. What the fuck is up with that? WTF is with that? What the fuck is up with that?
Starting point is 00:04:45 You know what we're going to start with? We're gonna start with the Ruitous of it all. You know what, let's talk about. You're really good at this, Ash. You're doing a great job. I learn from the best. She means me. Let's talk about the mini Divine Gate. I'm sorry, we weren't paying attention.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Sorry, I was throwing Sanrico shade. Let's talk about the mini Divine Gate. The Divine Gate Nano? The mesh gate? The mesh gate. That's weird. It's weird. The mini Divine Gate around the moon?
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah, it's weird. Is it keeping something in? Is it keeping us out? Yes. Is it, who made it? Well, the gods made the full-on Divine Gate. Why would they make a junior version? Is it like my made it? Well, the gods made the full-on. Why would they make a junior version? Is it like my first divine gate?
Starting point is 00:05:29 I think it's, I full-on think it was a prototype. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. You think the moon is the gate? I think the divine gate, the not divine, the mini gate around the moon, because according to the texts that have come out of Vasselheim,
Starting point is 00:05:47 these were two gods that were lost before. You really paid attention. Nerd alert! Before recorded history, before legend, before myth. Before the Calamity. There's no anything to them at all, and so you're saying later, when they were having problems, they said, hey, remember what we did to Larry and Stu? We gotta do it to all of us. Yes. We gotta do it to all at all. And so you're saying later, when they were having problems, they said, hey, remember what we did to Larry and Stu? We gotta do it all
Starting point is 00:06:08 of us. Yes. We gotta do it all of us. That's exactly what I think is up. So they did a mini gate first. It worked. Let's do the maxi gate. Yeah. Because, yeah, the two missing gods were missing before all the
Starting point is 00:06:24 shit went down in the Age of Arcanum and the Calamity. Right, Dani? Thank you. They weren't even there for the start of it. Wow. That's cool. I think, well, that's just. No, I buy that.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Just a theory. And we think that there are two bad gods because there's 12 prime deities and only 10 betrayer gods. Is that right? Is that right? I actually have nine. Huh? Nine betrayer gods? Is that right? Is that right? I actually have nine. Huh? Nine betrayer gods? I just looked at Dani. I stumped Dani!
Starting point is 00:06:51 No, she's going to look. Hi. Hi. Pretty sure that there's nine now, because I think there were eight betrayer gods, and then Vecna ascended, so I think now there's nine. And there are twelve prime deities, right? That I will have to double check, but I think. And there are 12 prime deities, right? That I will have to double check, but I think so.
Starting point is 00:07:10 There's more prime deities than there are betrayer gods, 100%. I don't know the exact number. I'm bad at math. But also, I'm assuming they're not like, we only have a quota. Yeah, we gotta have eons. It's like when they were forming the world, they were like, the Dawnfather got, he was team captain of one.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And then someone else, I don't know, Asmodeus was the team captain of the other. Divine dodgeball. And then someone was the last to get picked. Oh no! Oh no! So what are our theories for why? Were they just the baddest of the bad,
Starting point is 00:07:42 or were they like Dalit parties? Like baddest, like you're bad, or bad, you suck. Which you will. Okay. They gotta be super bad, right? And I assume that these folks who are working on looking through telescopes and things, it's not like they want to study them,
Starting point is 00:08:02 they want to let them out, right? They're letting them out, That's the thing, right? Letting them out or keeping them in. What does worse than bad mean, though? Because there are gods that want to destroy everything. But maybe these gods want to destroy everything while smoking cigarettes. Like, they're so bad.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Well, that kind of brings us to... Oh, segue? The city on the moon. Okay. Yeah. It does bring us to that, right? Sure. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Well, and that actually, that is an excellent point because why the fuck is there a city? It can't just be two gods, right? Yeah, if there's a city there, then why... Mm-hmm. That there's more to it. Martians. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:08:39 Martians on the moon. Mortal help. Mortal caretakers. I wonder if this has been Mars this whole time. It's red. And we know that in the past, things were much closer to science fiction than they are in present-day Exandria.
Starting point is 00:08:53 So what's on the moon could be anywhere. Anywhere. It could be like San Francisco in 1880. It could be like... Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, break that down. You're saying that this could... It could be like Hoboken, New Jersey in 1982. it could be like. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, we need to break that down. You're saying that this could. It could be like Hoboken, New Jersey in 1982.
Starting point is 00:09:08 It could be anything, but it is an American city. Anything. It could be Chicago in 1944. It could be like Orlando. Wow. Disney Moon, I can't wait to go to Disney Moon. Maybe the gods made a city. Gods like it when people praise and worship them, right?
Starting point is 00:09:31 I think. Maybe they made a city so people could praise and worship them. But where did the people come from? They made the people. Maybe the other gods. I don't know. Maybe the other gods are like, here's some mortals. Knock yourself out.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Leave us alone. Oh, maybe it's one of the floating cities that they swiped on their way up. That's what I thought. Like, not Avalir, not Aeor. Do we know the names of the others? No, but they got banished before floating cities. Did they? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Way earlier than floating cities. Oh, yeah, you're right. I guess there could have been other floating cities. Yeah. Wait. How could they be banished before floating cities? No. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:10:07 It was the olden times. The times before that. Wasn't the divergence after the floating cities? Danny's nodding. I'm right. I'm a war master, guys. I thought it was described as way earlier. Danny's back, baby!
Starting point is 00:10:24 Tell us about the floating cities. Floating cities is age of O'Connell. Danny's back, baby! Tell us about the Floating Cities. Okay, so I think... Floating Cities is age of O'Connell. I'm not Matt. Please always remember, I'm not Matt. By the way, people definitely tune into this show to watch us get Matt's lore. We're really wrong.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Danny, please explain our story to us. Oh, God. So what it seems like, from what I am remembering, I don't have anything in front of me to double check, but from what I'm remembering, it's that these texts are saying that these forgotten gods were banished, like Marisha was saying, even before Age of Arcanum,
Starting point is 00:10:56 which is when these floating cities were around. Rose up. Yes, because Age of Arcanum... What? No, she was right. Do you have theories? I definitely have theories. In the time of Avalir, we knew about
Starting point is 00:11:12 the specific god. They were naming her. These are gods that nobody even remembers or knows the name of. New Jersey. 1970s. Because the cities rose during the age
Starting point is 00:11:27 of Arcanum. Yes. Right? That was one of the hallmarks of the age of Arcanum was the fact that they had this magic so powerful
Starting point is 00:11:34 that they even lifted cities from the ground and took them to the skies and it was another example of their hubris, essentially. But all that's being
Starting point is 00:11:44 said, floating city or no, it still doesn't mean that they couldn't have still just, like, taking a city. And that's, I think, one of the things about this revelation is the fact that we don't know yet when these gods may have left, if it was pre-Age of Arcanum or something like that, because these,
Starting point is 00:12:05 remember, we haven't seen these texts yet. We're just hearing it distilled through another individual who also hasn't seen the texts. So there could be more information in them and there could be more information because everything that we know about the Age of Arcanum is through the lens of thousands, of a thousand years later. Sure. After everything was destroyed. Yeah, yeah. So these texts essentially are changing
Starting point is 00:12:30 everything that we know about the world. And we are changing it again by getting all the world. By getting everything wrong. Yes. When you look at it through, when we've looked at it through telescopes, when we have looked at it through telescopes, you're still seeing a globe, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:46 hovering around the planet that we're on and there is weather and environment. So even before the mesh thrown over that baseball, like, I don't understand. Like, it wasn't an astral body up there? The gods made, like, a baseball? It's a flat Frisbee, we know that. Did Dawnfather put him in a ball and then knock it into the sky?
Starting point is 00:13:11 I mean, all those questions and more will be revealed on the next episode of Critical Role. Oh, wow. They probably won't. They probably won't. But what we do know for a fact is that it's Raleigh-Durham, 1987. So what do we think about it being a, well, I mean, I know we're talking about this, a possible prison, a prison.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Seems prison-y. It seems prison-y, but it seems prison-y. Well, and also because the Flares feel like it's their way to try and reach out and communicate with other people. Because what we do know about the gods is they do need followers, and that they source their power from the more followers that they have and by rallying people on their side. So it seems not too dissimilar to what happened in the Calamity, where there were these Betrayer Gods that were reaching out to people to help do their bidding. So that's just
Starting point is 00:14:13 what it feels like, but it doesn't mean it's the same. Maybe those two early gods were pumping up their follower count with bots. Oh, yeah. Sure. Or it could be a North Korean's like they have this beautiful city, but nobody's in it because it's just for tourists to come. Seems far-fetched. Maybe like Portland, Oregon. All the American cities.
Starting point is 00:14:36 You're right. It's definitely an American 20th century city. Well, I'm going to have another hot take for you. More? Let's go. Uh-huh. Jesus. This shadow army that Imogen keeps seeing in her dreams.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Okay. Those are people. It's what if, what if it's a city of astral projected people? Are they coming from up there? Where are they projecting from? The moon. From up there? From here to there?
Starting point is 00:15:04 Or here. Well, I guess it could go either way. She's dreaming that she they projecting from? The moon. From up there? From here to there? Or here. Well, I guess it could go either way. She's dreaming that she's seeing people on the moon. She's seeing people in a storm. In a red storm. Yeah. On the moon. And they're being astral projected from...
Starting point is 00:15:15 Exandria. Like, what if... Like, what if Odahan, you know, Marquette is where she lives in Atlanta on her day-to-day basis, but she's got a vacation home in San Diego. Wait, is San Diego the moon? Well, it's only American cities.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Metaphoric. If someone just tuned in, they must think we're so high right now. What are we talking about? Is it instead that the city is full of caretakers, and they live up there in Schenectady, and it's almost like in The Last Crusade, all the people trying to protect the resting place for the Holy Grail, right? No spoilers.
Starting point is 00:15:58 They don't want anyone to know about their moon prison, so they are, I don't know if they're astrally projecting or shadowfell projecting, but they live up in Amboy, and they're coming down to murder anyone who's getting hip to the fact that it's up there. Yeah. That's interesting, yeah. Well, and I also, Danny and I had a little side conversation at one point where I was wondering
Starting point is 00:16:24 if the shadowf it for the show. If the, I know, if the Shadowfell has something to do with this. Good God. Even though that we haven't really heard, and this is just kind of a wild theory because we really haven't heard anything much about the Shadowfell
Starting point is 00:16:39 except for the assassins that Orym witnessed kind of dropping in and out of shadow and kind of also this like traversing through shadow entity as Imogen kind of keeps seeing as well and all the stuff with like the Loomis twins. All those people were like here and then they just poofed into nothingness. Sure.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I don't know. Yeah, because their form is not fully material or physical, so if somebody knocks them out, it's just and they wake up back in. Like punting Frumpkin. Nope, that's not in America, that doesn't work. No, it doesn't. Detroit.
Starting point is 00:17:18 There we go. Yes, Kansas City. Kansas. Yeah. Or Kansas City. Tallahassee. Missouri. Twin cities. Rome, New York.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Theories on Ira's plan. We're just naming cities now. Yep, we're just naming cities. Santa Fe. Ira's plan. Ira's plan. What is Ira's plan? To bust him out. He's a creeper.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah, I think so too. He's a creeper, right? He wants chaos. What kind of creature is he? He's like aer. Yeah, I think so, too. He's a creeper, right? He wants chaos. What kind of creature is he? He's like a distorted fae elf, right? Okay, so why would a fae want evil gods to come down to Exandria? Well, here's the other thing, too.
Starting point is 00:17:57 It is like that, you've got your betrayer gods, and then you've got your prime deities, but we are talking about, you're talking about two gods that were excommunicated before there was this distinction of being good gods and bad gods. And we also know that gods have their own little like petty squabble.
Starting point is 00:18:19 So to your point, maybe they're not even bad at all. They're just like, everyone just got really pissed off with what were the names you used earlier? Joe and Sue? Stu. Stu. One of them.
Starting point is 00:18:35 What if they're lovers and one of them was good and one was bad? And their romance was? And she was, oh my gosh. And the city is all, the city is their kids and the kids of their kids and their kids and the kids of their kids and the kids and the kids of their kids. They've just been up there doing it for centuries.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Yeah, they're just doing it, and it's all weird inbred people in the city. And also the city is Duluth. There's no through line. No one's not going to know what we're talking about. We're stoned. I think that's what through line. No one's not going to know what we're talking about. We're stoned. Man. I think that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I hadn't even thought of that until we were talking about it. I think that they're the secret. They're the people under the Denver airport making sure you never find out about the bunker under the Denver airport. It would put a very literal definition on Ruidus-born that we're not thinking about, that we haven't really thought about yet. Like, what if these people were really born on Ruidus, but then now there's people being, they're Ruidus-born now happening,
Starting point is 00:19:39 and I don't know, that might be too far-fetched. Maybe the flares were every time the gods boned. No, there could be something far-fetched. Maybe the flares are every time the god's bone. The cycle. Doing a great job. It's already fascinating. Oh, we haven't talked about Ira's plan. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Because the moon is so fascinating. We have no idea. Because again, what's worse than the chained oblivion that just wants to wreck everything? Well, there's also all these people who seem to get powers from Ruidus. But we don't really have confirmation that Iroh is Ruidus-born yet. So we don't know if he benefits from those powers.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Maybe he just wants to be the right hand of the king and queen. Why Ira? Why did Matt pick the name Ira? After we dealt with an Ira at the end of campaign two? Well that too, unless it's the same one. Has he said it's the same one? It can't be the same one.
Starting point is 00:20:36 We killed that one. It's not the same one. Well that Ira was also back in, yeah, in Eor. That Ira was like a mushy eyeball being. But time could be weird. Timey-wimey. Fae timey-wimey. That's true.
Starting point is 00:20:52 That's true. Does Matt know any Iras in real life? Does he have a beef with some Ira? Some Ira in middle school? Does he love this American life? I was going to say, this is Ira Glass. We don't really know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I don't know why Ira. Act one, we bust open the moon. Should I text him right now? Yes. Maybe it means... Do you know any Iras? What's your deal with the name Ira? You have Matt Mercer's number.
Starting point is 00:21:17 All right, keep us going. Okay, well, that was our first block. Yeah, that's... So what do we do now? It's too much of a mystery, Ira's plan. Like, I have no idea what his motives are. We're going to find out via text. I mean, okay.
Starting point is 00:21:30 We have more to talk about. Do I move to the next one? Yes. I read... I go on to the next ones. Okay. Also, you don't have to read every single item that's underneath the topics.
Starting point is 00:21:39 I mean, if you want to, you're more than welcome to, but they're more to, like, just guide. They're more of a guide. Okay. Yeah, you don't have to go through each one. Are to just guide. They're more of a guide? Okay. You don't have to go through each one. Are these the ancient texts? You mean I shouldn't read the outline out loud? You don't have to.
Starting point is 00:21:51 All the secrets are in the texts. This? The texts, yeah. This Age of Arcanum device that I have right here. FCG is a murder bot. What the fuck is up with that? Okay, what the fuck is up with that? murder bot. What the fuck is up with that? Okay, what the fuck is up with that? We found out what the fuck is up with that.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yeah, good job. I thought. Not really. I mean, when I assign you your roles, I give you things and expect you to surprise me, and I thought you surprised me at the outset, which was silly to think, but I thought, oh, a therapist, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah. That's really not what I expected at all. So, but what's the third layer and the fourth layer? Wait, there's more, I gotta come up with more layers? I came up with therapist? Yeah. And murder bot. I gotta come up with more? Play innocent.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Oh, jeez. So you knew, you knew he was a murder bot? I did. Okay. Well, they have mechanics set up. We have mechanics set up. Oh, jeez. So you knew, you knew he was a murder bot? I did. Okay. Well, they have mechanics set up for him. We have mechanics set up. Oh, sure, sure, sure. What were you gonna say?
Starting point is 00:22:50 Do you know what the switch is that makes it happen? I do know how it works mechanically. I, Sam Riegel, do, but I don't think Fresh Cut Grass is aware of what sets them off. And so I wouldn't presume to explain it to you all before my character even knows. Sure. But yes, there's a mechanic set up that will do stress points, and there's a limit to which he can take.
Starting point is 00:23:23 It's similar to, I don't know if I've ever said this explicitly, but in Campaign 2, at the beginning I said, I want him to, Caleb, to just go numb and shell-shocked. Yeah. Any time it was whenever he killed a humanoid, elf, human, dwarf, halfling, or whatever, with fire. And that's what triggered it. But you guys never really quite knew why it was happening.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah, I think there's something really fun in character creation about giving your character cool abilities that are new or whatever, but also giving them some drawback or cost to those abilities. It's really fun, and Matt helped me come up with the mechanics of how that would work, but it's fun to play with it. Yeah, my character almost flipped out so many times, but the one where I was the closest
Starting point is 00:24:19 was during the Deathwish run. When you glitch talked? Yeah, well, I was one point away during the Deathwish run. When you glitch talked? Yeah, well, I was one point away during the Deathwish run. So it just would have been so fun if I just went and just steered us off a cliff or something. I was praying.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I was hoping so bad. So not only was FCG at the end of their rope, we decided we were going to strap them onto the front of a rope, we decided we were going to strap them onto the front of a motorcycle. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And... Oh, that's so great.
Starting point is 00:24:49 You good, buddy? Boom, boom, boom, here we go! Oh! Oh my god. You know, honestly, relatable. You're an Aeormaton. I was, I am apparently an Aeormaton, yes. And did you know that?
Starting point is 00:25:07 No. Okay. No. You did not know that? At some point during the campaign, I did know that, but I didn't go to Matt and say, I wanna be an Aeormaton! In the first, Ugh! Because that's not how I talk to Matt.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I'm glad you don't. In the first game, were you, did you believe the dancer was the true inventor? I had an inkling that there was more to the story. But I left parts, just like we all have done in the past, I left parts of the backstory blank for Matt to fill in. Like we learned something about, God, this episode airs and we're all caught up. We are all caught up. We learned that this guy who sold me to Dancer or whatever,
Starting point is 00:26:00 D, no clue, legitimately no clue. I don't know who that person is. I think we all have a theory, but that's not what I came up with. I didn't give that to Matt, so that's all him. Yeah. I love that about this,
Starting point is 00:26:19 because you put so much into these characters, but it really is a sharesies with Matt. Yeah. A lot is us, but then it's so great to have him yank the rug and mess with our expectations. Yeah. Yeah, because another one that you can ask that question about is Fearne. Oh yeah. Who, me? Yes, you. We just turned
Starting point is 00:26:40 the questions back on the question. Yeah, we did. It's not on your card, is it? It's not. I was like, Yeah, we did. It's not on your card, is it? It's not. I was like, you looked at it. That's right. What the fuck is up with Fearne? You won't find it.
Starting point is 00:26:51 You won't find the answers down there. It's just a wine menu. Yeah, I'm curious if you knew the time discrepancy and you being with Bert or with... Bert and Ernie. Bert, yeah. Yeah, shit. Bertie and Ollie. No, the being with Bert, or with, uh... Bert and Ernie. Bert, yeah. Shit. Bertie and Ollie.
Starting point is 00:27:08 No, I, the being with Morrie, I did not know the time discrepancy. I knew, well, I didn't know the reason for it. I did have in the backstory that her parents left when she was very young, and some other stuff. What's the other stuff? Wait, what else?
Starting point is 00:27:31 I don't know why I'm just getting really nervous right now for some reason. Because there's secrets left to spill. Yeah, there's secrets left to spill. Did you go to Matt and say, I want my parents to be pieces of shit? No, but I did sort of have a little bit of a description for... Because that's not how we talk to Matt, as we said.
Starting point is 00:27:53 We don't, we don't. I would never flick him in the nose. Hey, make it cool. I had an idea for how I wanted the parents to be, and I like the fact that her parents are just kind of like, you don't have to like everybody. Like, you don't have to like your parents. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And especially, I don't know, that's a fun thing, I think, for me to explore. I love my parents, and so I think... Disclaimer. Disclaimer. So I think it's more interesting to me to play something think... Disclaimer. Disclaimer. So I think it's more interesting to me to play something that's very opposite. Of course, you want to explore different facets of the human experience.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Absolutely. We were talking about this last night, just in the lobby. There are arguably more shitty parents than good ones. Yeah. In the world. In the world. In the world. For sure.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah. You know, so. Even if it's 50-50. Yeah. You know, that's a lot. We all have damage from our parents.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, even the best parents are, you're, like, stepping on landmines constantly going, ah, I could have done it better.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Yeah. Like, I don't feel like they, I genuinely think that they felt like they were doing the right thing. And that's what sucks. But, you know, in retrospect, obviously, you're like, oh, maybe I did make a bad decision. But I like that they're wrestling with that, and so is Vern.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It's fun. I have a question for someone who's not here. I have a question for Aabria Iyengar. Well, that's gonna be scary. Yeah. Because in EXU at one point, we tangled with people from the other side, from your hometown of Amboy, New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Mm-hmm. 1867. And I thought multiple times to bring it up in campaign three, but I couldn't remember if Orym was times to bring it up in campaign three, but I couldn't remember if Orym was present to hear it or just Liam was there in a moment that Orym wasn't there. So I was just like, well, I can't touch it because I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:29:53 But somebody tauntingly said to Fearne, grandmother lied or something like that to you. Yes. That was when you guys heard. So Aabria knew, had to have known, Matt must have shared a little bit. That part of the backstory about the postcards was something that I had said.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Ooh. So, it was part, I was like, I don't think the postcards are from the parents. They're probably from Grandma, because I think Grandma really loves her. I think Mari genuinely loves Fern, but I'm very excited to see what Matt does with it. I want to meet Mari so bad.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Me too. Makes me think of the witch in Rapunzel in Into the Woods. Oh, yeah. It's not her daughter, but she... Yeah, loves her, but maybe a little... Doesn't want to let her go. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Well, if Brie is watching the episode tonight, please tweet us the answer to that question with hashtag Meryl Streep. Aabria knows a lot of stuff. I know, I kind of want to pick Aabria's brain, too, because I even went back and watched stuff and I was like, what does that mean? Yeah, that was when you guys were all kind of encountering your, like, dark mirror doppelgangers, right? Yes. Leaky mirrors, seeinggangers. Yes. Right? Yes. Leaky mirrors. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Seeing some things. Yes. Don't you know what you saw there in the children's wilderness? Are you singing Into the Woods? See, I don't know Into the Woods. It's so good. I don't know musicals like you guys do. Even the movie's good.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Yeah, the movie's good. Really? Yeah. Wait, isn't Chris Pine in that movie or something? Yeah, he's playing his D&D character, basically. Oh, is he really? Yeah. In the D good. Really? Yeah. Wait, isn't Chris Pine in that movie or something? Yeah, he's playing his D&D character, basically. Oh, is he really? Yeah. In the D&D movie, you mean?
Starting point is 00:31:29 Yeah. The character from the D&D movie? He's playing him. I like that that was also his D&D character in his home game. Yeah, we're just assuming. I just saw they did it on Broadway with Sara Bareilles. Brilliant tears, just. You saw it? I saw it. Oh, when you were just in New York?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Wow. Is Neil Patrick Harris in that? This is not what the show's about, but I thought. Sure it is. It is now. Woodstock. Here's a question. Oh, great, good transition. Mostly.
Starting point is 00:32:04 You're awesome at the show. Good transition. Mostly. Okay, so who is your favorite bad robot in pap culture? Pap culture. I'm a big fan of the T-1000 from Terminator 2. Sure, sure. Moved like liquid. That's a good one. Bad robot. Bad robot.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I mean, I feel like robots are misunderstood. I feel like we always paint them in a very bad light. Or we, you know, I think they mean well. In movies, though. This seems to be a theme for me. In movies, though, they're either real cute or they're murderous. They're murderous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I mean, Hal. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. I mean, Hal. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Roy from Blade Runner. That's the character's name, right? Rutger Hauer's? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:54 He's great. I've got a soft spot for Data. Oh, good answer. He's a good guy. I don't want to call him bad, but he can be badass. I also like Dot from Spaceballs.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. You haven't seen Spaceballs? I think that's even worse than not seeing Into the Woods. Spaceballs is a classic. Spaceballs is a nice cultural touchstone. Yeah. And I feel like now
Starting point is 00:33:24 if I watch it, it's going to be too late. I'll watch it and be like, this is terrible. No, it holds up. I haven't seen it for a while. Yeah, you probably will. It's parody-tastic, so you know, it's good. Are they saying they can read off the prompter?
Starting point is 00:33:42 No, we're having a side conversation over here. Let's talk about the Decepticons, you guys. Who's your favorite Decepticon? Hey! It's time to pull from the Tower of Inquiry! One of us pulls a block from the tower, reads the number, and Dani tells us the corresponding question and who asked it.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And if the Tower of Inquiry falls, there will be dire consequences for the one who asked it. And if the Tower of Inquiry falls, there will be dire consequences for the one who ruins it. Weird, shameful, sweaty consequences. And so with that in mind. Sweaty consequences. I'm gonna go first. Oh shit! Right, you can yourself.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I love it. Sweaty consequences. Live at the Roxy. I feel like I want to do this one. Is there music that plays for this? Is there a drum roll? What happens? Oh, it's all moving.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I want to see the tower go down. Who did this? Have you seen that happen yet? Who did this? Matt and Taliesin. No, it wasn't able to fall before. Yeah, it was too sticky. So we had to make a new one.
Starting point is 00:34:46 They swapped it out. So it's never fallen on show. Yeah. But now it actually could, because it's not made by, now it's real. It's not made with honey. Oh. Oh, she's gonna do it.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Yeah, Matt and Taliesin set us up for failure. Oh! Whoa! I've been burned by that move. 10. 10? 10? She's a 10 she's a lady
Starting point is 00:35:08 she's a lady I always feel so silly because sometimes I read these for the first time I'm like that's so funny oh I have to do a thing what slogan would be on your character's morning coffee mug from hippocroctopus on Twitch.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Oh, that's a good one. That is a good one. What slogan would be on our morning coffee cup? Yeah, like, don't talk to me before I've had my morning coffee. Sure, sure, sure. I'm trying to think of something clever. Yeah, it's not going to happen. No.
Starting point is 00:35:48 It's hard. It is hard. Maybe Ferns would be like, don't- World's Best Dead. Oh, that's pretty great! That is good. That's really good. I was trying to think of something along the lines of like, yes, it's coffee, and no, it didn't come from my pores. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 00:36:07 But that's too long. World's best dad is better. It's going to be a big cup. Yeah. It's a tankard. A tankard coffee mug. Maybe like, don't bother me, I'm stealing. Or like, it's not stealing, it's borrowing.
Starting point is 00:36:22 That's good. That's good. Or I might have a sun's out, guns out. Sun's out, guns out. Yeah, sure. They're not very big, but they're out. Yeah. I would just say, I don't drink beverages.
Starting point is 00:36:39 This would damage me internally. Or the coffee mug would just be fresh cut grass because you keep your coffee in. Oh yeah. This is true. I still think that would be a great thermos. It would be. I think FCG needs to be a thermos. It would be really cute to have a coffee mug
Starting point is 00:36:57 that was like FCG's head or something. Bring back those shitty plastic character mugs that we had in the 90s, remember? With the heads, with the tops? Heck yes. And there would always be mold that grows on the inside in weird crevices that you can't really wash. I like that.
Starting point is 00:37:19 The straw would flick up. Yes. Those, yeah. I did not have those. I had glass Star Wars glasses from McDonald's. Oh yeah, those were great too. I had the Lion King set when that came out. That Lion King set was dope.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Thank you, Hippocrocolips. Dope, dope, dope, dope, dope. Wow, they got Hippocrocolips in the project. Oh no. That's quality. Wow. And if I have a forever green
Starting point is 00:37:51 question. For our Tower of Inquiry, you can enter it at critrole.com slash tower exclamation point? Oh yeah. The exclamation point's supposed to be there? I don't think so. That's just excitement. Oh, that's part of the...
Starting point is 00:38:08 You're Ron Berman-ing it. critrole.com slash tower. Okay. Slash tower? Disappointed! Question mark there. Okay. Nailing it!
Starting point is 00:38:22 You're doing great! With that, let's slide into the deep dive! Dani, what is on the menu for our deep dive today? Ooh! It's tankards. It's tankards! It's always tankards. Okay, we're gonna take turns pulling questions
Starting point is 00:38:38 from our tankards, and since I am the tavern keeper, Tavern. Thank you, Boo. I'm the tavern keeper. I will be kicking this off. Well, I just kicked off the tower. Well, you can do whatever you want. I'm gonna tell somebody else. That's keeper, thank you, Boo. I will be kicking this off. Well, I just kicked off the tower. Well, you can do whatever you want. I'm gonna tell somebody else.
Starting point is 00:38:48 That's true, you can change it. Okay, let's go. You can do whatever you want. You know, I'm really partial to Soundwave because it's such a strange idea. This was, they were showing us the future and he's this giant robot walking around. He's got a cassette tape player.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Cassette's the size of a Winnebago popping out of his chest. But they really worked. You could really use them and play them back. I've got them. Ravage, Laserbeak. Got them. Laserbeak? Laserbeak.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Grumble. Yep, they're great. What do we got? Orym has taken a shine to Imogen and encouraged her to step up as a leader. What does he see in his new friend to spark such direct encouragement? Well, she seems, Imogen,
Starting point is 00:39:32 man, she's just got it together. She's really intelligent, obviously intelligent, and wise and well-meaning, but she's got a ton of baggage, and I think he watches her, like, give in to the dark side. Yeah. And he's seen that before with other friends, and doesn't want that.
Starting point is 00:39:58 He sees the best in her. He sees the best in all of them, and thinks that she has the potential to be great in life. Seen that before with other friends, meaning like just in Orm's past? Or are you talking about like EXU people? Dorian. Dorian. No, that's right.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And currently Opal. Yeah. And she's, you know, she's powerful and coming into her own, and he's just hoping, you know, like, I think Orm is aware that power has the strong potential to corrupt any of us, and she's coming into her power, and it's not his journey, but he hopes that he can act as like a buffer against things that would, you know, sort of not his journey, but he hopes that he can act as, like, a buffer against things that would, you know, sort of knock her off course
Starting point is 00:40:49 and tumble into darkness. It does, I don't know, maybe I shouldn't. This is not me speaking for Laura, but it does feel like Imogen is the one who's, like, most susceptible to most susceptible to her actions being reflected by her emotional state. I don't know. Is that weird to say? No, I get that vibe from her as well, yeah. You know, if she's caught up, because she's been through so much, and she's having night terrors every night.
Starting point is 00:41:23 It's just chasing her through her life. And so that shit gets overwhelming and sometimes it's easier to give in to those bullies, to those overwhelming feelings. God, I can't wait to see what happens when she gets in front of Odahan. Oh my God. Might happen pretty soon. I know.
Starting point is 00:41:43 We're close. It makes me nervous. Me too. But I'm also excited for know. We're close. It makes me nervous. Me too. But I'm also excited for it. I think Odahan's going to recognize her. I think Odahan's going to be like, I've seen you in my dreams. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I've been waiting for you. What if Odahan only sees Imogen in her dreams and they're like, I don't know. I know you. I walked with you once upon a dream. Let's rewind to the theory, the unconfirmed theory that the shadow army, the shadow assassins
Starting point is 00:42:18 are from the moon. What does that make Otohan? Is Otohan the ambassador on Exandria for them? Yeah. What if that's what that thing on her back is? It's like some space... Oh, yeah, man. Jetpacks. Yeah, future shit. Jetpacks.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Because Moon City, we don't know what we're talking about, but Moon City could have been there forever and during the Calamity when all those cities got wrecked, Moon City just kept going. With nothing to slow its progress down. Oh, that is interesting. So it's got cool tech. That is interesting.
Starting point is 00:43:01 And weird gravity. Just like San Antonio in 1932. That's too long ago. That's too long ago. And Boston today. Would you like to answer a question out of your tankard? Sure, I would. This is for Sam.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Therapy and emotional healing are deeply important to fresh cut grass, but they clearly take a deep toll on them. Is therapy something that Fresh Cut Grass truly enjoys, or does it feel compulsory since it is his designation? I think it gives him great joy to
Starting point is 00:43:39 be helpful and to do therapy. And especially in recent episodes, he's learned maybe that it wasn't just programmed into him by dancer, but it's something that was inherent to him from the beginning. Now it is complicated a bit because what we learned was that he was programmed as a Trojan horse to be an assassin, so anything good that comes out of him
Starting point is 00:44:09 was just to be a ruse to get him in the door somewhere to kill someone. You're Jason Bourne, and someone... As simple as that. There's gonna be one more. Sounds as simple as that. I don't know. Someone's gonna utter nine words to you,
Starting point is 00:44:23 and you're gonna be like. Oh, why are you Pinocchio? Why are you the robot with a heart of gold? Because I probably needed to kill someone who was really nice. And they wanted me to get into their good graces. I wonder if I succeeded a thousand years ago in killing that person that I was sent to kill.
Starting point is 00:44:43 You killed your target? Yeah, Did I succeed or are they out there or is there, do I have to kill all the generations of their family? Oh God.
Starting point is 00:44:51 I wonder if this was your body. Wait, what? Originally. Oh, the one that I, my chassis? Yeah, your chassis. That was my original murder bot chassis?
Starting point is 00:45:00 Well, that's the Trojan horse. It's, I'm adorable. Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But, to's the Trojan horse. It's, I'm adorable. Yes! Yeah. Oh, yeah. But, to answer the question, I think he does really genuinely like doing therapy.
Starting point is 00:45:13 It brings him joy. It's not just something that he does because he's compelled to. Follow-up question. Oh, yeah. FCG seems to doubt continuously that they do not have a soul, but you, Sam Riegel, believe that Letters has a soul.
Starting point is 00:45:29 I thought you were gonna just ask if you, Sam Riegel, believe that you, Sam Riegel, have a soul. I do, too. I don't think you believe you have a soul. In fact, that's a whole other show. What I'm unsure of is the game. Speaking of therapy.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yeah. So, sorry, your question was does Fresh Cut Grass have a soul? You believe Letters have a soul. Does Sam Riegel believe that Fresh Cut Grass has a soul? What I'm unsure of is the game. Speaking of therapy. Yeah. So, sorry, your question was does Fresh Cut Grass, does Sam Riegel believe that Fresh Cut Grass has a soul? I don't know! He's got a glowing thing in there that could be pure dunamis, that could be a chunk of moon rock, that could be a battery that was made in a shop.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I don't know if it's a light. I don't know what, what is a life? What is a, what is a? Great question. Well, people are, just have things called like hearts and at its core, it's just a bunch of like protein. We're a very complex program in the machine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Yeah. There's not like a soul organ. But like this, you're totally right. But this is a question I think that goes beyond just a four-person talk show. This is a question that philosophers have been trying to answer for thousands of years. I think we can solve it.
Starting point is 00:46:34 We're a computer simulation. Yeah, well, we're just electric stimulus, right? And then when you pass, the body, like Caduceus tapped it with his pinky, just decomposes. And that circuitry is gone. But that's just the most complex computer game that has ever been created. It's just a series of experiences and routines.
Starting point is 00:46:57 It's true. It's true. And even though our bodies are organic, you're right. It's all just electronic signals and neurons. Bioorganic. Maybe we're all dead. are organic, you're right, it's all just electronic signals and neurons firing. Yeah, bio-organic. It's going choo-choo-choo. Maybe we're all dead.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Maybe that's the lesson of this episode of Foresighted Dive, is that life is meaningless and free will doesn't exist because we're just a series of inputs and outputs. Life needs things to live, but we're not actually living. Yes. We're dying. Is this show just not?
Starting point is 00:47:24 So if you take away life and live, we're just things. Marisha. What would you like to pick from your tankard? I would, before I do, though. That's the promotional clip. Before I... Suck it, Sigmund Freud! That's right, we figured it out.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Oh, you got a text back from Matt Mercer? Matt responded. Oh, the ancient texts! I said, hey, baby! Yep, thousands of years old, love you. Wait, now you're actually reading the text and it doesn't answer your question? I said, what's the deal with the name Ira?
Starting point is 00:48:04 Do you know an Ira? And he said, what do you mean? Well, you heard it here first, folks on Foresighted Dive. He goes, hang on, he goes, I do not. Here's the, what do you mean, I do not? Are people upset that sometimes things share a name in the overall history of the world? Oh, he's insecure about it.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I am far from the only Matt. Oh no, he made himself conscious? Oh no. I like it. I love the name. I love the name, too. I just wondered why. There are lots of Iras. There are. Keep texting back and saying it's okay.
Starting point is 00:48:43 It's okay, you're wonderful. It's okay, you're wonderful. It's okay, you're wonderful. I'm glad that other people are drafting my texts to my husband. It's okay, you're great. Just a dumb four-sided dive question. Ugh. Oh no! Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:49:10 It's just a unique blend of, I don't know, I just feel like I haven't heard a name like that in a fantasy story. It's true. Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna, I'm gonna. What's it going to be? Laudna seems to...
Starting point is 00:49:30 Did you forget I was here? Yep. Laudna seems to truly believe that her dolls are alive. Where does this belief come from, rather than assuming their movements are pranks of other Bell's Hells members? Yeah, so, and started just embracing it the more I played Laudna and discovered her deal. But Laudna has a bit of a rested development.
Starting point is 00:49:59 She was already a late bloomer when she was a kid, and then had her young adulthood robbed from her and then she went and lived in a hut throughout the world where a dead woman talked in her head and then met her best friend who sees people in dreams and can shoot lightning from her hands. So, all that being said, I think Laudna has this real belief that, you don't know, maybe they are alive. There's literally nothing that has told me in this world that they couldn't be alive. And I think it just kind of speaks a little bit
Starting point is 00:50:46 to her arrested development and kind of a little bit of her gullibility. Hopefulness. She also saw those marionettes come to life. And then she saw marionettes come to life. Yeah. In the museum.
Starting point is 00:51:02 You know, so she's like yeah, this all seems seems plausible to her. I'll make my own, and maybe they'll come to life. Maybe they'll come to life. You don't know, shit was weird in Buffalo, New York in the 90s. Why is it all in New York, though? I mean, I guess everything's in New York.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Because I hail from upstate. I know. I know the best. But yeah, she's, you know, I think with warlocks too, just something as like a philosophy, the way I look at warlocks as a class, it's hard to play a warlock and not have your character be a little impressionable
Starting point is 00:51:41 because that's a little bit of the point of warlocks and so i think that impressionability not only speaks to delilah but also kind of follows her in other aspects of her life makes sense yeah that's why well have you pulled one. Your mug might be my favorite. I love this. I love it. Thank you. Was it your choice to make Fern's sweet Nana Morrigan a hag? If so, what inspired the name Morrigan?
Starting point is 00:52:20 Ooh. Yes, it was my idea. I'm the greatest. So much of that. Okay. I'm trying to think of the best, the quickest way to explain this. So, and I always end up talking about my mom
Starting point is 00:52:38 because she's very, during COVID and this whole sort of lockdown, my mom started building. This is all going to come back to the question in just a second. She started building birdhouses out of just scraps she would find. My mom finds like stuff that is trash, metal pieces. She used to make like a lot of like steampunk little characters. And so she made this one birdhouse that is so cool. And it was like this very creepy, it looked like a hag house.
Starting point is 00:53:17 And also sort of during lockdown, we talked a lot about, it was kind of my first time sort of sitting down with her and really kind of explaining this game because so much of it, she's like, I don't get it. She's maybe seen like a couple episodes. And we, okay, so the name Mori is from an old cat that we had that was probably 35 pounds, massive cat. That's a- probably 35 pounds, massive cat.
Starting point is 00:53:45 That's a... Morrigan, her full name, there's just... There's a lot of sprinkling of fairy tale stuff and folklore stuff in Fern's backstory because a lot of it was also inspired by growing up a lot of Scandinavian folklore, which is fucking creepy. So there's just that sprinkled in through Fern's story. Some of it leads somewhere, some of it does not.
Starting point is 00:54:18 But it's sort of, this is my version of a really fucked up Guillermo del Toro fairy tale, which is what I was, you know, which I think Matt and I have been trying to build that. And yeah, so, Morrigan could mean something or it could not. So it does. So.
Starting point is 00:54:42 If we go and do a deep dive into Scandinavian folklore, will we maybe stumble onto some stuff? Because if so, I'd like to outsource that to our audience because I don't have time. Yeah, there's, I've put some, I've sprinkled some stuff out there that I've, maybe some things that I've said, maybe some things that I've put into the playlist things that I've put in to the playlist.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Ooh, these are clues. Not maybe I did. I'm in, guys. Yeah, it's all like, it's really sort of weird. It's not all, yeah. I mean, so many fairy tales are all the same. They have so many of the same fairy tales across all of them. But yeah, the ones that I heard growing up were just
Starting point is 00:55:28 always like, I don't know if I want to go to bed after hearing that. I'm scared. Morality lessons by traumatizing your child. Yes. And some of them you're like, I don't know what the moral is to me. Because that's
Starting point is 00:55:43 disturbing. If I play in the woods, I'm going to be eaten? Yeah. Dude, Hansel and Gretel, if you read the original, there's no lesson. No. It's just parents are bad, and you might survive, or you will be shredded into beef jerky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:00 That's the story. But I wanted the hag to be her grandma, because I think it's so funny that I just pictured just a hag being like, you got to eat. Come on, where's your food? You know, like just, I don't know. But we'll see when we meet her.
Starting point is 00:56:14 We'll see when we meet her. I'm very excited to meet her because there's a lot of fun stuff there. What's first, the Feywild or the moon? Fwild. Fwild? Moon. God, I don't know. Okay, let's do another round.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Should we do a speed round? Yeah, let's do a speed round. Yep, start with Sam. Oh, wait, I was just, we'll go around. Yep, you start. Sam, Marisha, Ashley. How much did you know about Fresh Cut Grass' backstory? We did that one already.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Yeah, we did. We kind of covered that. Fresh Cut Grass reunited with Dancer, but it was not a particularly joyful reunion. How are they doing after that interaction? Does Fresh Cut Grass hope to one day return to Dancer's side? I think so.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I think ultimately, maybe not return to her side, but get her approval, get her forgiveness, get her to be able to look at him the same way, maybe there's something that Dancer needs or some way to prove that he's better. Maybe you guys can fix him and then he can go back to her and ask her if she wants to be friends again. Because they had such a good time.
Starting point is 00:57:21 That's tough. That whole, when Dancer came out, she leaned on the door and just that whole when Dancer came out she like leaned on the on the door and just that whole I loved it yeah tough reunions
Starting point is 00:57:32 tough reunions tough reunions yeah not necessarily joyful ones and with everything that went down with grass
Starting point is 00:57:41 on that night she doesn't owe Fresh Cut Grass anything. No, she doesn't need to, but you would still want it. Yeah, and I also would love to hear some more details from her perspective of what went down that night,
Starting point is 00:57:56 but it was just... Yeah, can you tell me how I murdered your friend? Yeah, it's not a great... It's not the most traumatic night of your life. Not a great night for her. Speed round. Oh, God, I pulled your friend. Yeah, it's not a great, it's not the most traumatic night of your life. Not a great night for her. Get it. Speed round. Oh god, I pulled them all.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I pulled them all. Just answer them all. Just one. Oh god. How is Lawton dealing with the doubts of Delilah that Delilah sows in her mind? This is one of the first times
Starting point is 00:58:18 we've seen her really listen to Delilah and be deeply influenced by her words. Yeah. Yeah. It's tricksy. Delilah and be deeply influenced by her words. Yeah, yeah. It's tricksy. Slodin is trying so hard to get away from Delilah and her influence. Long story short, it's not that simple.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And once again, when you have someone who's kind of impressionable and doesn't know, and I'm also just trying to stay true to what the juice that Matt is serving me. Matt juice. I should have seen that coming. Oh! Through the hair.
Starting point is 00:58:57 And trying to mercenary? Delilah's getting a little bolder, right? She's kind of picking at the guitar strings a bit more. God, what is she eating, warming up? That's also why I originally with Laudna, I was like, okay, she's got her points in Warlock, but I want to just strive to build her up as a sorcerer to try and get her away from the Warlock,
Starting point is 00:59:17 but then all the shit went down with the rock, and then all the shit with the other rock that went down in the hideaway and everything, and I felt like it was narratively appropriate to drop another point into Warlock and then all the shit with the other rock that went down in the hideaway and everything, and I felt like it was narratively appropriate to drop another point into Warlock, because she's gotten more powerful. Like, she's shown more of an influence,
Starting point is 00:59:33 so that's why I went Warlock in my last level. Ooh, boy. Nice. Sometimes the story tells us what to do. Yep, 100%. Yeah. Speed round. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. More of a medium. Was Fern tempted by you's offer to take them back to the Feywild straight away?
Starting point is 00:59:51 Of course. Of course. Really? Of course. I think. To turn over her parents? Dang. Not to turn over her parents,
Starting point is 00:59:59 but I think the initial offer, which I think is maybe what is being referenced in this question, of when you was like, you want to come back? Let's go back. Let's go back right now. I think there was that brief moment of, God, I do miss it there. And I think at another time, Fern might have said yes.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Been like, yeah, let's go back. I've been out here and I haven't accomplished what I thought I was supposed to accomplish yet, but turns out it all came together in that moment. You made me so mad. I made you mad? No, you did. Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:00:40 You made me mad too. Speed round. Speed round. Orim had Imogen reach out to Keyleth to update her on his mission. What was that interaction like for both Orym and you as a player? I've almost done it two other times
Starting point is 01:00:57 and even started mapping out the verbiage for the message spell being short enough in my head. But then he didn't have enough to go back with. I also, as a player, I'm like, well, I don't want to drag in one of the most powerful people on the planet and be like, fix this!
Starting point is 01:01:15 The Bells Hells are having their story. Right, right. But at a certain point, the Asshari have to plan for something that seems to be involving the entire planet. Sure. It's not localized to any one thing. I love the world.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Liam loves the world that we've built and all the characters we've made. And I love getting bumped by the Cerberus Assembly coming back in. And I love hearing about the Dorolos. I love the Ashari. Sure. I love reincorporating. So I love the Ashari. Sure. I love reincorporating.
Starting point is 01:01:46 So I hope we get to a meter. I do, too. I have this, like, my headcanon is that when Orym left on his journey, Keyleth was like, whew, thank god he's gone. What a buzzkill. No. Look, I'm just. Look, you got to go on a really long,
Starting point is 01:02:09 really long journey to find yourself. Really long. No. No. Malwa, she would not. No, she would not. She's not like that. She loves people. They weren't besties or anything. She was, in my imagination of it, they weren't close.
Starting point is 01:02:33 If anything, she was closer to Derrick. But to Orym, I think she had sort of like a vaguely leaderly maternal, one of many people that she had to care for and gave him some solid advice and he took her on. Yeah, like a mentor who's like, I'm real busy, but I can give you 30 minutes. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:02:54 You know, it's like no secret service agent is best friends with the president, but they might have a rapport. Sure. A working relationship like that. He'll delete his texts for him. Don't put anything in writing. What do we do now? a working relationship like that. He'll delete his texts for him. Don't put anything in writing.
Starting point is 01:03:09 What do we do now? Silence! Oh! All of you! It's time to pull another question from the Tower of Inquiry. Oh. Samuel Riegel. Yep, bring it down, baby. It's your turn. I'm on it.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Wait, what's your middle name again? Samuel Brent Oscar Riegel. Brent Oscar? That's a weird name. I don't know if I know that. I don't think Samuel Brent Oscar Regal. Brent Oscar? That's a weird name. I don't know if I know that. I don't think I ever knew that either. Brent Oscar? Brent Oscar. Technically, my middle name is Oscar.
Starting point is 01:03:32 My first name is Samuel Brent. No. Here we go, super fast. Nope, that's not going to work. Is it like Samuel Dash Brent? No, it's just Samuel Brent. My mom wanted me to be called Brent. My dad wanted me to be called Brent. My dad wanted me to be called Samuel.
Starting point is 01:03:46 So there's a part of my family still that, oh fuck. Jeez. There's a part of my family still that actually calls me Brent. No! That's weird! There's a couple people in my family who are like, oh hey Brent, I mean Sam. There's a space between the Samuel and the Brent though.
Starting point is 01:04:03 A space between, or a hyphen. There is nothing that's going to budge. Maybe this one. He says, finding one that will. Yeah, but it's like the only one. Oh, God, it's stuck. Oh, shit, you're committed now. You're fucked, boy-o.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Pull it fast. Pull it really fast. It's stuck. Oh, God. It's stuck. I can't touch anything else? Can I go back the other way? You could try. You could go back the other way? You could try. You could go back the other way, sure.
Starting point is 01:04:27 You can move that anywhere you want. I'm gonna jiggle. I'm gonna jiggle. Oh my god. So many concerns. I've seen this in my mind countless times. Look at this, it's moving. Look at that, it's moving.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Oh! Wow, you've had practice. 27. No, you gotta put it on the top. I gotta put it on top. I'm gonna put it on top. Could you imagine if it was that dainty? Wait, are we talking about my penis?
Starting point is 01:05:04 Hey, y'all. Oh. I'm not supposed to be standing here, am I? You can stand there. You can go wherever you want, buddy. I'll stand here. What is your favorite magic item in D&D from Trevor Apple? What is my favorite?
Starting point is 01:05:18 Oh, it's for all of us, not just me, right? That's right. Magic item in D&D. It can just be about you, Sam, if you want it to. I mean, the portable hole is pretty dope. That portable hole is amazing. It's pretty great. Because it feels like a cartoon.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I haven't used it much. I hope we start using it. No, well, we lost our list, right? This is why you guys should not have put me in charge of it, which I think is hilarious. Did you not find your notebook? I can't find the notebooks. Did you take it home?
Starting point is 01:05:42 So we lost our shit. Probably did. I just, I thought I find the notebooks. Didn't you, did you take it home? Probably did. I thought I left them here. We couldn't find them, and it's my fault. I'm not going to blame it on anybody else. I know, I'm sure I picked them up and was like, let me put these away for safekeeping. And I hid them too well.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I like that love potion we used that one time. That's always fun. Wand of Smiles is fun. Wand of Smiles is great. Gotta give a shout out to a good old immovable rod. Sure. A lot of practicalities with the immovable rod. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Deck of many things is no slouch. Yeah, yeah. For my home game, I make up magic items sometimes. You do, like what? That's not allowed. I made up glasses that make you look super, super nerdy. Like they're big. Coke bottle glasses.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Coke bottle glasses. And so your intelligence increases by one just for like a few minutes. Oh, that's awesome. And then I made some other stuff, too. I made fake poop, which I guess I didn't invent fake poop. But I made it into a DNC item. Your home game.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Yeah. Not the Scanlan, yeah, the Scanlan strike. No, no, no, just like fake poop that makes somebody slip or get distracted. Like a banana peel or something? Yeah, basically. Wait, oh, make someone slip. Like you put it down and they slip and poop.
Starting point is 01:07:15 So it's like, it's corporeal form. It's like a, I guess it's a magic item. I don't know if I'd break down what it's made of. Would you like to pick? Oh, table. A piece? Wait, do I pick again? Yeah, you can do whatever you want.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Do you want to pick a piece? Of that, of the tower? It's gonna be hard. Let's go. It's real shaky. But I just want, oh no, I don't want to be responsible for this. But I'm emotionally exhausted. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:07:47 This t-shirt was appropriate. I can't play Janga Deva. People have come in and hollowed out a lot of it. And the bottom no less. You've got to do a side one. It's going to come down tonight. I think you're right. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Oh, she might've found one. That's such a boring piece. What do you want? They're all the same! You're the one who also picked one of them! The side ones are harder. You were just here, Sam. I know.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Don't let him bully you. I hate it. I'm Jenga shaming you. Not let him bully you. Fuck, no, that's it. That's the only one that's going to move. That's true. That's the block you tap. Tick, tick, no, that's it. That's the only one that's gonna move. That's the block you tap. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. It's going, it's going.
Starting point is 01:08:30 This is good television. Uh-huh. Whoa! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 01:08:41 Oh! Number eight! Okay. What if I knocked it down myself? And that's what I'm terrified of. You also have to put it back on Okay. What if I knocked it down myself? And that's what I'm terrified of. You also have to put it back on top. What if you just spiked it? Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Jeez Louise. Okay. Terrified. Of anxiety and Jenga towers legitimately like freak me out sometimes. I'm just like, it's coming. All right. Great.
Starting point is 01:09:07 What are some of the thought processes that... Oh, this is a great question for Ashley being here. What are some of the thought processes that go through your mind when Fern opens her mouth? I know that I get both anxious and delighted to see what chaos ensues when she starts talking, but I can only imagine what it is like to sit next to the incarnation of chaos from Clinton. And then gets anxious. You're just causing anxiety in our audience. Yes.
Starting point is 01:09:33 It's called working at Christmas, you know? I love it. I love it. Even when you get stupid ideas where you're like, should I steal it, right? Should I? And everyone's like, no! Don't do it!
Starting point is 01:09:47 I just want you to do it. It just feels like a condition of the game we're playing where it's like we can plan and be careful and meticulous, but every once in a while you're going to go and we have to deal with it. It's great. It's fun. It's fun. I enjoy it. I love nothing more
Starting point is 01:10:03 than saying something at the table and hearing you all go, no, no. I'm like, yes. It's been so great to have you for the whole campaign. Oh, thanks. It's been really nice, too. It's been really nice. So nice.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Well, thank you, Trevor, Apple, so nice. Well, thank you. Trevor, Apple, and Clinton. Should, I don't know. I think Liam should pull one. I think you have to pull one too. Oh snap. I wanted to make sure I didn't forget your names. I want to see this bitch go down.
Starting point is 01:10:36 I know. Let's go. All right. Come on. This one! Whoa! No, you have to do it! This one! Whoa! Yeah. This one. This one.
Starting point is 01:10:52 No, you have to do this. Yeah, I get the consequences. Liam, no. I did it wrong. That was a fern move. You did. You ferned the tower. No one told me I couldn't do that. So what are the consequences?
Starting point is 01:11:08 Oh my god. I guess I'll do the question first, and then I'll do the consequences. I guess, let me do the question, and I guess I'll show you how to use the consequences while you're answering. Use the consequences? If Belle's Hells were in a slasher movie, who would be the first blood
Starting point is 01:11:28 and who would be the final girl? Who would be the final person? Oh, Orm's the final girl. Bruno Rosado from Brazil. I mean, Imogen seems like a good final girl. Yeah. Yeah. I mean.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I think Orm or Imogen. Theoretically, you know, it makes sense that Ladna would be first blood. It does, although in slasher movies of the 80s, didn't the most promiscuous person usually die first? Yeah. So Chetney goes out. So Chetney?
Starting point is 01:11:58 Yeah. Yeah, you've got the, his shirt off, just getting killed out in the. Yeah. Maybe it's that Imogen and Orym are the last two to survive, but then Imogen secretly was the killer. Ooh, that's a good twist.
Starting point is 01:12:15 That is a good twist. Yeah. Ruidusborn. Ooh, that's good. I would say Orym or Imogen, I don't think any of us are. Ruidus. Yeah, that tracks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:30 My character would just go outside and be like, yeah, there's nothing out here. It's totally blue. Coast is clear. Thank you, Bruno from Brazil. We're going to get to the consequences, but remember, if you have a full-throated question for us, you can enter your questions for the Tower of Inquiry
Starting point is 01:12:52 at crewroll.com slash tower! No exclamation point. None. No, but you delivered it. Lemurs, you have consequences to deal with. I guess so. Yes, you should go to that box for the consequences. Oh, there's a consequence box.
Starting point is 01:13:06 What it is. This is messy. Oh man, I feel so lucky to be here tonight. I wanted to see it come down. Watch it be full of asps. Whomever knocked over the Tower of Inquiry in episode six of Force Out of Dive must immediately put on Laudna's hands
Starting point is 01:13:22 and wear them for the rest of the show. Laudna's hands. Oh my god the rest of the show. Oh my god! That's a consequence? She's pretty cool to me. Wait, are those... You're going to have to play crawl? Yes! Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Wait, are those like scissors? Yeah, yeah. They're like the... Have you seen these? They're like mechanical. The way that you put it on. There's the thumb. I see a thumb.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Oh my god. Should we take those to the burn and paint them with glow-in-the-dark paint? thumb. I see a thumb. Oh my god. Should we take those to the burn and paint them with glow-in-the-dark paint? We gave Alex Ward a set. These are awesome. Wow. So yeah, just bug Alex. Is that the right?
Starting point is 01:13:53 Oh, no, this is the right. This side. I guess technically. Yeah. Do we? Wait, wait, wait. I think you're tangled. You're tangled.
Starting point is 01:14:04 This is riveting. Should we keep going? Wait, wait. I think you're tangled. You're tangled. Is this how? Should we keep going? I already did that. You did that part. Keep scrolling. What happens now? What do we do? Well. Oh, we're going to fast forward for this part.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Should we answer some more? Oh, yeah. That's a good idea. I don't know. Pick one out. I'll pick one. It feels real small. Since it's Laudna's hands,
Starting point is 01:14:32 I'll answer a Laudna question while we have a costume change. There you go. What does Laudna think of the conversation she and Ashton had in the dust storm? The two of them seem to be similar in a lot of unexpected ways. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Yeah. This motherfucker right here. Are you talking to me? Ashton. Oh, god, Jesus. I was scared. Taliesin! Huh? Yeah, I love he's like, oh, what are you afraid of?
Starting point is 01:15:03 You were afraid of something. And I'm like, yeah, well, you afraid of? You were afraid of something. And I'm like, yeah, well, why don't you reach out to your old boss, Joanna Hexum? And he's like, no, I'm scared. He didn't say that, but he's scared to reach out to her. So I'm like, oh, you want to play this game? Those are cool. Ooh, cool.
Starting point is 01:15:20 I actually love those. Oh, wow. I mean, it's pretty... It's very Ira. It is very Ira. This is so fun. It's kind of like how... They have a nice sound to them. That chair's going to break.
Starting point is 01:15:38 They do. Yeah. That chair's going to break. Can't wait for it to break. Oh, man. Okay. All right, folks. We're going to take a quick break, but don't go too far.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Because when we come back, we are going to be playing Crawl. Wait, there's a commercial break on this show? That's it for the podcast version of this episode of Foresighted Dive. In the video version, we wrap up each episode by playing some games, which don't always translate well to an audio-only format. Honestly, it's mostly yelling, truly. So be sure to check out the rest of the episode via the VOD for the full chaos. If you've enjoyed this deep dive into the campaign,
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