Critical Role - Tale Gate | Episode 3 | Discussing Up To C4E25

Episode Date: May 26, 2026

Tea is served!   Our illustrious host Whitney Moore sits down with Marisha Ray, Liam O'Brien, Luis Carazo, and Taliesin Jaffe from the Schemers Table for our next installment of Tale Gate — where the Schemers shall reflect, answer Lorekeeper questions, spotlight incredible fan creations, and pontificate on what wonders may yet unfold!   And for our dear Beacon Bits, do stay tuned for immediately following the show you shall be cordially invited to The Night Cap; an after-hours continuation where the cast answers your questions live from our Beacon exclusive Discord chat!   New Episodes of Campaign 4 release weekly on Thursdays. Learn more about Campaign 4 at https://critrole.com/campaign4/     OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN 4 CAST GAME MASTER Brennan Lee Mulligan Laura Bailey as Thimble Luis Carazo as Azune Nayar Robbie Daymond as Kattigan Vale Aabria Iyengar as Thaisha Lloy Taliesin Jaffe as Bolaire Lathalia Ashley Johnson as Vaelus Matthew Mercer as Sir Julien Davinos Whitney Moore as Tyranny Liam O’Brien as Halandil "Hal" Fang Marisha Ray as Murray Mag’Nesson Sam Riegel as Wicander "Wick" Halovar Alexander Ward as Occtis Tachonis Travis Willingham as Teor Pridesire   #Campaign4 #TaleGate #CriticalRole Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Why, hello there, Distinguished Campaign 4 listeners. I'm Sam Riegel and welcome to our new talkback show, Tailgate. In this series, we'll sit down with the cast after each table arc and spill the tea together on all things campaign for. Plus, if you're a beacon member, the soire will continue with the nightcap, a beacon exclusive segment where we answer all your questions from the Discord chat. Each Tailgate episode is streamed live on beacon.tv, YouTube, and Twitch, and we'll arrive here on the critical role. podcast network one week later. So if you ever want to join in on the live fun, check us out on one of those platforms.

All right, without further ado, let's get this tailgate started. Good evening, everyone, and welcome back to Tailgate. I'm your host, Whitney Moore, and tonight, we are unraveling the web of intrigue spun by our favorite little fingering foursome.

The schemer table. I've got thoughts about that phrase. This arc had everything. And on mold monsters. It had fraud and of course it had tities. Whose tities? King Gus's. That's right, and no one else's.

Those are the only tities that matter now in C4. Let's open the gate. Royal tities. Royal tities. Bring forth. That's it, we did it. That's it, we're done. All right guys.

Slam dunk. What happens now? And we're back? We're in it. Let's talk about them tities. Well, welcome everyone. Welcome everybody in the chat. Welcome to my schemers.

How are y'all doing today? Oh my goodness. So schemy. So dreamy. Yeah. Steamy. So steamy. Been a big nine to five day just like the schemers for us.

Yeah. We're tie-tie. I can't believe you drove home and back. Well, listen, I'm not going to make you guys think too hard. Certainly not as hard as Marisha has been connecting all of the dots in what the fuck is happening in Domachiar. I wish I could make my nose bleed on Q.

Post. What is this? What is this live show? I'm going to open it up with a question for all of y'all, which is how is everybody handling living a double life? Well, once again, just like our real double lives, it's fucking exhausting. Fake one. The employed table. We've got a lot of shit to do all the time. Yeah. Just a double life or a triple life? I'm on lives on lives. How are you keeping your stories straight, actually?

That's my question. Yeah, a Zunei. Yeah, Luis. I don't know, to be honest. I am so afraid you're going to like trip over one of your lives. Oh, me too. Oh, what tangled webs we weave when first we practice to deceive. Oh.

I made that up. I'm trying to always tell the truth, especially when I lie. Oh, diddo. That's such an actor thing to say. That's the way to get through it. Yeah, I've been making a very, very, very conscious attempt to never technically lie. That's harder.

You're a lying by omission kind of a person. Oh, yeah. Anytime it's role for persuasion or deception, it's the same number. So it literally is like, it doesn't matter. They're both correct. Lying by omission is the goaded way to lie, low-key. Or not necessarily even by omission. but often through a misunderstood choice of words.

Yeah, or even I know that they think one thing or I'll say a thing and they just don't have enough data to really put it all together. It's not my omission, it's theirs. Yeah, yeah. Well, on that towel, actually, my next question is for you, how has Boler been handling, biting his tongue about the Ozzie and the other schemers?

What tongue? Especially how. You've been sitting on some, sitting on some juice. Sit on a secret. Yeah. You know, there's this thing where, like, in a friend's group where there's just one terrible person and everyone else has just decided that it's fine.

Oh, we've been there. Yeah, I know you have. Yeah, you're just like, well, I suppose this is my life now. Wait, is this going into your, everyone has a, everyone has a worst person in the willing to know. I mean, I can go into that. I'm a big believer. Yeah, that's how I keep thinning my friends group is like I pick the worst person I'm willing

to know. And if you're below that, then you're not willing to. Well, then I just don't have time. Or if I meet someone like, you're just a little bit worse than this person. And then every year, you kind of up it. Tell us about your real life inspirations behind that. Plenty. No, it's, yeah, Thiazzi, man, I have so many feelings on The Ozzie.

And no one, everyone else is so, so bloody, hmm. That's not true. You keep saying that, but there's plenty of people who are like, you are correct. Yes, thank you. Far more people are like, oh, Fiazzi, he was amazing, but there are plenty of us that are like, I am somewhere in the middle. You are somewhere in the middle because you're a sane person in a, in a, and it's several tables worth of schmuckets, but, you know, it is, yeah, it is, it is that thing where, and I wish I had said this during the game is like, I absolutely believe that he was working towards a happy, ending in a better world.

Why does everyone think it was for them? Like, everyone seems to think that they're involved in this and not specifically being thrown on the pyre, including you. Sometimes people are different people to the different people in their lives. So it makes sense that Theazi was one thing to Azune and another thing to this. Yeah, and I'm also, again,

with the sort of games he was playing, I'm perfectly, I perfectly believe that he was willing to let half of us die. and honestly planned on half of us dying in this. Well, Liam, how is Hal feeling about all this new information about his brother? Well, How's in the middle, too,

but family goes a long way to making up for, you know, wrinkles and problems. You just, you have to tolerate the problems in your family because they're your family, for the most part, in most cases, in many cases, in some cases. Love that walk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, I look forward in the duration of this story as long as it turns out to be to finding out by the end of it more of who Theazi really was. Because Brennan is by design only showing us parts of the elephant. We're all like feeling the tail and going, it's a snake, it's a snake. But we can't see the whole animal yet. I'd know. If I felt an elephant tail, I think it was an elephant. He's such a dick.

I have and you didn't know. Whoa. Welcome. God, I love L.A. parties. I love you so much. Thank you for going to. version from that game we had as kids during Halloween where you'd like

Oh, it's eyeballs with peeled grapes? You know about my... This is pack of her mask. Can the audience... Can the audience see Whitney's shoes? Yeah. Oh, my God. Let's make sure we see it. I almost flashed last time.

Good. Tadda. Look at those shoes. They're great. Oh my gosh. That's extra. Let's go to Kansas, y'all. I'm not going to take these dogs

out for you non-beacon members. Exactly. It's a beacon for that. These dogs are for beacon bits only. Dude, that's actually, that'd be a good experiment. How many subs could we get tonight alone?

Well, we have a, if we promise to show our dogs. A wiki beak. Uh, uh, outcropping. Uh, Wiki beak. Wiki beak. I mean, this is from,

from the creative director's mouth to God's ears. Yes. I am, I'm, listen. I've done. I've done worse for less. Said that you've got to do whatever it takes to survive, including showing dogs in the chat.

Show your dogs on the nightcap. How would Piazzi feel about that statement? And would he show his dogs in the chat? Yeah. If that's what it took to live another day. Who says he has to? already done half of that. That's true. That's true.

That's true. It started out. Hmm. What would The Ozzy think? It was what would The Ozzy think about Luis's or Asune's statement about doing whatever it takes to survive and that sort of mentality. He was one of the first people I said that to.

When I was 12 and he recruited me and he asked if I was willing to lug stuff around and I said to him I'll do whatever it takes. When I was 12, when he found me, when the mercenary group left me on the side of the road. He's like, oh, you've got a gray moral compass. He can't come join.

I think, well, do I have a gray moral compass? Yeah, I think I'm willing to lie. You tell us. I think the Ozzy probably learned very quickly what Azune was intrinsically like. Yeah. And I think that's one of the reasons why he, had him stick around a little bit

and maybe had him positioned the way he was. And how did Azuni feel about having to lie to his compatriots about his relationship with him? I mean, I don't think that he's used to thinking for himself in that way. I think he's used to being on an assignment and it's so embedded in him to do

whatever it takes, to be useful, if you're not useful, you're discarded. And I think he was hyper-vigilant about pleasing Theazi, getting his approval, whatever that meant. Do what you're told, do what's asked of you, anticipate it. And, you know, shut up unless you're spoken to. I mean, these are things that are not necessarily what, how Theazi, he didn't reprimand him necessarily, but I'll tell you one thing. Azune from a distance got to see how.

how close he and Thimble were. Oh, yeah. And got to see how he was towards other people, and he's observant. I think he would see what he would give others freely and what he wouldn't give me. And what he would give me and not give others. If you're not useful, you're discarded.

This sounds like so many people in Los Angeles. So many people everywhere to be there. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. It's always therapy. It's always therapy. Marisha, what was it like burying Thiazi with Hal? Was that crazy?

Roll to dig. Roll to dig. Roll to more. You know, I feel like all of us have had those moments in real life where you're like, I just started dating you. Are you sure you want to bring me to your cousin's wedding? This is, feels like a few steps ahead. This feels like, yeah, like, oh, am I really coming over?

Am I really coming over to your Thanksgiving dinner after your dad just died? I don't know if this is a good idea, but also, okay, I'm super down to be there. So. Remembering how are dating? Confirm? Yeah, how was that for you, Leah? Yeah, I don't know. I liked that moment.

I liked not, like when we did our session zero and we created a lot of ties to each other, we had nothing. Not really, just through the Ozzy. So it was a total blank slate And I've enjoyed like not knowing you And then and then and this is not his world right He's been an entertainer and a historian and a writer For a long time he's had a good life And I like that he's being thrown into the deep end

With these smart pros in town And is certainly impressed with her brain He does not feel like he's anywhere near as smarter she is And I like that that there are the shields came down just enough for him to bring her along for that super intimate private moment. I thought it was really interesting and nuanced. I liked it a lot.

Yeah, she's a real smart lady. She's got a big pair of intelligence. Of a big, big, big, big, right brain, big left brains. Her left brain and her right brain are active. Marisha, get the fuck off your phone. How rude? I know that it's Kyle texting you from all camera about something about the show.

Is he sharing me? Read it out loud. Yeah, share at the class. Should I share? We'll talk. Is it about feet in the chat? It is. Oh.

Our head of Beacon is like, do we make a discount code to only use for tonight? If we show dogs. I mean, sure. I'm not going to share personal stories. I'm going to, I'm going to, if we're doing that, I'm taking my shoes off now so that I don't have ugly sock marks. Like sock lines?

All right, well, we'll just prime them. And you a little dirty featsy pals in the chat. You never said we don't do anything for you, all right? Now back to the questions. All right, Marisha, let's talk about Pimli Morn. Pimli Morn. Pimli, she told you that she was rusty in dealing with the criminal underbelly of Don't Like Yard, but then she aided in bringing down

this notorious thieves guild. So is she really so rusty? Do you think that she's more capable than she's leading on? Is Murray rusty? No, Pimli. Is Pimli? Oh, is Pimli? Yeah, Pimli.

No, it's, is Pimli a man or a woman? Pimley was. And here it says, does she agree that she's rusty? So it's not my fault. I don't remember the gender. Pimley pointed us toward. I thought Pimley. Is that who you rolled initiative with in the bathroom?

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But they were mistaking your intentions in that bathroom for a moment. I remember that. Yes. Oh. Yeah.

Every now and then, someone from another table would be like around while we were recording. And they would watch us have our conversations over dinner during the break of everything we're doing. And they would just be like, I took a note in like one of our last games. it was just dogs. Like, we can't, we have too much info. Yeah, no, it was Robbie. It was Robbie. Because Robbie was looking at my notes,

and he was like, do you want to see mine? And it was talking dog. Talking dog, that's right. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was the comparison of the soldiers table and everything that you guys are up to. Oh, yeah, talking dog. What a nice day.

What a time we're having. I like, I almost filled an entire notebook just from our seekers, or our schemers run alone. Like a note that would normally take me like half of a campaign and I almost filled it entirely. There were so many names and so many places and so many things happening all at once, all the time. Do you guys have, this is maybe jumping ahead in my notes,

but do you guys have a favorite NPC that you've met? Yes. Oh, good, great. Gus? I mean, Gus almost doesn't count at this way. Gus is great. Yeah, I love guys. I do love Demetis, Blix.

This is great. Blix is great. Yeah. My daughters are my favorite. Oh, yeah. It's so weird because you have to say that. You're their dad. I do.

I don't want to hurt their feelings. Temelor. Temelor. Temolo. Timolo. He's named. She's awesome. Temolo, Gus.

Tata, daedatta. Demetus is awesome. I think that fucking Taconis is safe. I am in love. This is great. Primus Tacoma is great. The crazy. So much fun.

Who's your theater director? Oh, shoot, shoot. It's been too long, I know. What's her name? Neveda. Yeah. Neveda, and I can't remember her last name. Nivia cream. Yeah.

Nivia cream. I'm going to pull up my troop, as you were. And I have a question for you, Tau. What was it like for Blair to terrify, speaking of great NPCs, a fey entity like Lami? into lao me, lao me, into retreating. You were so scary. The mold monster. Oh man, I mean, that's, that's,

that's his bread and butter is just, oh. It is, it is, well, it's that thing of, I can kind of let loose for a minute, I can stop working so hard, and I can just be an absolute piece of shit for a moment. And really his power comes from tearing people down and making them feel bad about themselves. That is kind of, that is kind of his,

purpose. Yeah. He is, I mean, his whole thing is, yeah, he's just very like, I'm just going to say some stuff that's true enough that it's going to hurt. Wow. And it will kill you. Dude, I love being so good at negging that you're just to... Oh, I've had to re-learn how to gaslight so hard

for this character. Like, I've been like going back to high school shit. God. You had to relearn the old ways. You said, relearned. I was a teenage boy. You forgot the old names. Oh, Luis. The people, my document, want to know, what is your sorcerer subclass? Oh, I think I keep that to myself for now still. Oh, secret, secrets.

What if I showed you my feet? Would that do anything? I've already seen your feet. I know, one's out. I've lost all my, I've lost my chips. Honestly, I've got to say from previous experience, the other one's the good one. It's true. So you are still...

It's covered in diamonds. I think it gets revealed. The left one is far superior to the right. Yeah. Oh, you think since then it has been revealed? I think it will... I think we touch on that very vividly. Oh, yeah.

I'm trying to remember the context. But it's coming. It's coming, yeah. So I like... It's good to keep you... Keep it a little mysterious, even though I think to some people it might not be. Yeah, well, let's hear everybody's guesses, too.

And then, Luis, you can wink if you see it. I'll definitely tell you some nose if it's... Great. Then they'll... Yeah, process of elimination, yeah. It's hive mind, they're hive mind. So the class is Baja blast. Someone is a genius.

Don't, thank you. Don't give the critters any hints because they will figure that shit out. That's what we got some... That's what's running through those angel veins. It's Baja Blas. It is that color. He is very Baja Blas. He is.

Oh, my God. It's so cute. My theater's name is Neveda Anza. She's our Grand Dame. And she direct. I don't direct, she direct. Yes. You're more of the show runner.

I'm the writer and I'm the owner. Yeah. Yep. But she runs the show. She calls the shots. Right, right stage, stage left, upstage, downstage, all of us. All of us.

She says all of those. Upstage, downstage. You name it. She knows them all. Liam, what was it like for Hal to take up the sword again? Is there a part of himself that enjoys being back in the thick of danger? Or is it too complicated for joy? You know what's fun about Hal for me is for a decade of critical role?

I played Vax. I played Caleb. I played Orm. And I've heard from different people like, oh, you don't need tragedy to make a D&D character. You don't need to lean on tragedy. And, you know, Vax fell into tragedy. Caleb was designed to be tragedy.

I thought Orham was already in recovery. But different, you know, that's a spectrum. And so I'm like, all right, bet. So I made Hal whose life is great. I mean, the city they live in and the political landscape and everything is dicey, but his life is great. And I told Brennan, like, I love combat. I love adventuring.

I love exploring dark places. So he was going to have to knock Hal sideways. So you're seeing the beginning of this, of how not wanting to let go of, you know, raising his children and being a part of this troop that has meant everything to him. He's got wonderful women in his life. Everything is great. Liam loves the complications, though.

I don't know that Hal loves being in danger. I think when he was a young man, a boy still, was just too young to become a soldier, and Theazi was way too young. And they both went in too young, and he saw his brother. The game told me, I didn't make this in my backstory, the game told me that I saw my brother almost die in the muck, just like almost bleed out and dragged him out. And that was enough. He was there. He did his time. It was not great. And he would love to keep things where they are, but the times demand action. I love the way that you insinuated, like, oh, you think that Hal's sad now? Get ready. The trauma has only just begun.

Well, I mean, there's a, there's a, there's a term in the theater for tragedy, which is called act two. Yeah. I mean, it's just kind of yeah. Yeah. Yes, it's where it's complication is inevitable in storytelling. Also, it feels like the roller coaster is starting to move fast, but I don't feel like hell is broken into a thousand pieces yet. Yeah. Not at all. Well, that's the sort of a, you know, you know who your brother is, maybe not all the way, but to have him die tragically,

like that's a normal adult thing that many people experience. And so I feel like Brennan's got a lot, he's got a lot of treats for you, if you like being traumatized. I do, slap me around, but I, you gotta play on like you did it. Yeah, yeah.

I achieved my life's greatest goal. I got that theater up and running. And as far as the Aussie goes, I think Hal's been bracing for that moment for years. Yes. Because of the life that the Aussie lived. Yeah, yeah. Well, we mentioned Demetus Blix earlier.

Marisha, Tal, you guys are both connected to this character. What was it like to almost lose him? But you rescued him and are you worried about the future? Or you got bigger things, bigger fish to front. I'm worried about all of my real-life friends who are street performers. I mean, it's a rough life. Thank you so much. My silver guy acts is just doesn't break it in anymore.

It is a terrible idea. Nobody should be an actor. Not a great idea, guys. No, like, get into STEM. I always say that. There's no money in STEM right now. There will be. Shut up, Talasin.

I made her... Trying to tell kids to do something smart with their lives. Oh, God. Yeah. Well, you know, I specifically started running a museum for a reason, but yes. Yeah. Yeah, it is, he's a... Gosh, he has potential. I loved Dimidus. I loved him, too.

Dimminous is great. I think Diminus has, like, a purity. I really liked... Well, hang on. I want to make sure I'm not getting too far ahead of myself. Well, you, I mean, like, I can say that Bollaire's relationship is just, like, I think Belair loves camp and is a big fan of the art form. The sillier and especially the more childish, the more delighted that it is it is candy for him.

Like the big, the big beautiful stories are life-changing, but you need a break every now and then you need to watch some schlock. And good schlok, not crap. But I think that he just sees talent and yeah, there's such a, there's not enough talent. in the world. And you just need to keep it safe and let it mature. I want, you just gave me an entire idea for a subplot, which is I want, I want the hallowed round to be having drag shows and schlock and camp. Like, bring that. I'm getting claps. That's happened, that is already happening at the rookery.

Great. We're not deep diving into every single night's programming, but yeah, that's already happening. And when I say I'm getting claps, I'm getting the clap, I'm getting the clap. getting the clap from Kyle off stage he loves he loves camp um the rigoury definitely though

like there's there was definitely and I kind of I alluded to this in game like is he a little naive sure is his naivete the reason that he got into the situation he got himself into not really

and there was an immense amount of guilt coming from Murray it I think it like that really locked into Murray because she her biggest fear was that this kind of infiltration of the sundered houses

and Dean Cora coming in and the Cormoray's coming into the Pentevral was going to put these students especially the more disenfranchised or in the more like you know lower

class students in a position of risk, I don't think both Marisha and Murray thought that it was going to be that literal of risk in the way the

Demetus was. So it's like, oh yeah, you came in, you fucked with my school and you were here for like four days and now one of my kids is in chains, like tied up, kidnapped in a sewer with the, like, what the fuck

just happened? Yeah. So it's, It made it like very real on like a whole other level. On the other, I mean, on the other side as someone who was really, as, you know, Bel Air was kind of on the other end of this relationship, it was one of those, oh, they fucked with the wrong kid because he was like, they underestimated him. And it was part of that underestimation that brought them down. They saw, you know, they saw a naive kid and like, you are not seeing the whole picture and it's going to, it's going to be part of your downfall.

is that you are not looking, you are not, you are not paying attention. Don't fuck with those scholarship kids. It's so interesting hearing your perspective on this because I feel like my only real responsibility has been Wicander, which is stressful, of course. But you guys have everyone. Like you guys have just people that you're not related to

that you are sort of stewards for in this context, and that's so much scarier. Yeah. Yeah. That was the big intimidation factor about even sitting down at this table. Like I was excited, but I was also like, Oh, geez, we've got to know a thousand make-believe people in places and institutions,

and we all have institutions that we're defending and families and workplaces to protect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's say, what time is it? 727. We've got time for one more before break, right? Let's see. There's some great gifts coming up. We have gifts.

This is like company slack happening right now. I'm really enjoying this. Luis, Azuna is gathering soldiers and a sandsenia. building an independent army, right? How does he feel knowing this many people are waiting on his orders? Similar to sort of what we were just talking about, of so many people sort of counting on you. Is this similar to his role as a revolutionary guard?

I mean, no, he's not used to having that responsibility. And I think even early on when a conversation that he had with Varen, he was already telling him to know who Murray is, because you might need to follow what Murray tells you to do. Because I think that he, Azuni thinks that his, you know, his life can end at any moment, any wrong step with his conversations that he has with Lord Einfosssen and that could be the end of him. So he's thinking ahead of passing things on, yeah, to someone that he trusts and

someone that he thinks is smart and can handle that responsibility. But part of it is because I don't think he, he does not think that he can handle that responsibility. Even his position as a lieutenant in the Arcane Marshals, he never went out of his way to establish rapport with the people that were underneath him because he was just waiting on whatever the Ozzy needed him to do. Doesn't have much of a relationship with them

and is I think starting to realize that he needs to become his own person. Yeah, there's a difference between being able to do anything in order to not get the chop and do anything to survive and have people be led by you. That's a huge difference. That is not comfortable for him at all. And I don't even know, I don't think that he, he might not really understand it in that way.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what's the worst that could happen? Right. Right. Heavy is the head that wears the guillotine? I love the dichotomy in Azune of the professional and the personal.

because he's very good at what he does. That's what we've seen. He's been very savvy and pulled off some very nuanced, smart moves. He's a real bag of broken glass. Yeah. Inside, it seems like. You're holding it together.

Yeah. It does feel like I'm playing different versions of the same person, almost like different characters in one person, but they feel cohesive. I feel like I understand the thing that's underneath them. Very relatable.

Everybody, Matt, Everybody puts on, you know, is different people to different people, and I think that that's something that you guys are all doing in different ways. For sure. Fascinating stuff. Hey, before we go any further, we need to pause for a moment because it's time for Noteworthy Notables. What we're celebrating. Notables. Lunches. Where we celebrate the brilliant works of those within the critter community. We have three incredible pieces to get through tonight, so let's get into it. Noteworthy Notable One. Our first Noteworthy

Notable tonight comes from Kai S at Gross Chat Fate on Tumblr. Sorry about pronouncing that. You know, I'm taking theater classes from now. Can we see it? Can we see it on the TV? No. We have

dual chat going. Oh, there. I love to... There's a magpies are there. There's a magpie sitting on Murray's head. I love it. There is. Oh, that's so, yeah. I love one on, it's like this chibi style.

It's so sweet. This is really cute. It's so adorable. We all look, you, like, I think you and I really, really, chibi really suits us. Yeah. Yeah. It's great.

It's that hat. Well, thank you for the art. Let's go to Noteworthy, notable number, Noteworthy Notable Number two. Now Marisha started singing. Whoa. Oh, hell yeah. This one is from Kit Carnell at Kit Attack.

Let's see it. It's freaking beautiful. I've had this one so a while on my phone. And horny. Not a metaphor. It is a little horny. A little. Not a little.

Is Boler strip before this? Yes, because I don't want to get my suit dirty because I'm going to have to put it back on again. I don't want to cover it in blood. Shunk. So. Very practical. I mean, like, I've got a system. This happens.

He's grabbing the blade. Yes. Yeah. This is not. I can only back out of it so much. No one can ever tell me that horror movies and knife stuff isn't inherently horny. This is, penetration is at having,

listen, I'm not gonna defend my post, you figure it out. I said what I said, and everybody else agrees. Robbie says you're gonna horny jail. All right, our third, noteworthy, note-worthy, note-worthy, note. is from Laura McKenzie at KiwiDrawer.

Incredible. Wow. What are we all looking at that. Beautiful, the burbs. The lighting. The bright future. You're looking at the future. I like how the light

really actually just has a curve around your titty. Really, that's the only breaks. It's the highlight on the cleave. You still, uh-huh. You still gotta get the shine. So every single person in that image is thinking, what the fuck did I

tell that person? What's my story again? Who am I to the foot? What are we doing? Eight. Let me check my notes. Why did I write like this? Yeah.

Wow. Fantastic art. Thank you guys for sharing. And if you would like your fan art or your cosplay featured on Noteworthy Notables, go check out critroll.com slash submit. Submit to me! Oh. Okay, let's get back to the questions.

I like that they're now aware that this is just you, by the way. What do you mean? That this is who you are. This is, there's... It's been me all along. I caught myself in the monitor and I forgot that I looked like this. And I was like, huh. Your eye makeup is killer.

It is. Dre. Drey, baby. Shat up to her. She's so good. All right. Let's get back to the questions. Liam?

Actually, actually. Well, I asked him that question already. I got to scroll down. Oh, actually, I do have a question for Liam. How tempted were you to put on Bowler's mask? Oh, Liam, super tempted. It feels inevitable. It's got to happen.

eventually, it just shouldn't happen the first time, because you have to tease it out. It almost did, though. Yeah, and the dice can say, fuck you. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I mean, that feels inevitable talking about the table, but we'll see how we get there. Yep, I want to see what's inside that.

Oh, I know exactly what you're going to find in there, so. You dirty, budd. Oh, yeah. It's feet. Speed all the way down. Oh my God, do we actually have a code? We have a code. We have a code.

Ooh, wait, where? Where is it saying that? I just saw, I saw Beacon Deacon talking about it. All right, well, I guess we're, I guess we're I guess we're sorry, I'm still doing, we've committed to a code, so you're welcome, everybody. Code feet is now active through Friday. Through Friday. Fuck, all right.

It's gonna be foot Friday. Don't get too close on my needed pedicure. Um. Friday. Um, okay. My parents are so proud. Marissa. Really?

Uh-huh. Welcome. Welcome. I would love to just show my parents a clip of this. And they'd be, I know exactly what they'd do. They go, that's so great. Are you having fun? Are you having fun?

That's great, sweetie. Wow. I'm not like you watching right now. What's D&D? Yep. I will find out if my mom's watching. If I get a text saying hi to you, then we know that she's one.

I remember back in the day, back in the beginning, hearing multiple times. And what is it again? And what is it? Still to this day. Still to this day. I got to blast through this

anecdote really quick because it's not about me tonight. When I got this job, I told my parents and my mom was with her friends and she described it and she was like, okay, Whitney has a job. And they asked her,

her to write her own part and it's a really big deal. And I was like, it's not wrong. I'm not the only person that's making a character, but. Jesse's parents came over. And they were like, over to her house, and they were like, what is happening? What do these people do for a living? It's like, it's very good question.

We're all playing with dolls going, she's a demon girl. And she's not this priest guy. Kiss, kiss, kiss. Yeah, try having to explain it in Spanish. It's a little harder. Let's hear a little of that. No.

Yeah. Mijo, but what is what is the dragons? It's out saying, what is it again again? Whoa. What is what they do? So, what's done in the mess? And that's all.

What's Dungeons and Dragons in Spanish? Uh, oh, oh my God. I actually have its own name. Dungeons. Dungeons. How do I say Dungeons? How do you say dungeons in Spanish? Now my brain is having, somebody in chat

is gonna know how to say dungeons. Somebody let us know. Help us out. Help us out. And I used to know what, Dragones is so fun to say. I was trying to pick the accent again. My accent is a weird,

if I go to the East Coast, they think my accent is Mexican. Sometimes around here, they'll be like, are you Puerto Rican? But it depends. And it depends on who's casting. This is California, so it's like, oh, it depends on who's casting.

Very true. You're going so fast. It's like, wait a minute. I don't hear you do that very long. I'm waiting. Okay. They're gonna look it up for us. Marisha.

What are we? Let's talk about Murray's visions. What are her visions like for her and is it difficult to keep the various threads clear in her mind? Did anything in particular inspire you to take on divination? Inspire your take on divination? Inspire my... What was this? I, so when I first tried to figure out who Murray was gonna be, at first I was like, oh, do I go like,

artificer with her. There was a world where I was like, do I go like warlocky? And Brennan literally yelled wizard in my face several times until I was like, all right, I guess I'm a wizard. So yeah, that was in our, remember our session zero, everyone just kept shouting wizard. Yeah.

Until I became a wizard. We really wanted to see you do a wizard. Yeah, do a wizard. Do wizard. Do wizard. I've seen you do a wizard. I've seen you. I've seen you do a wizard.

You do it good. Yeah, you were with me in Calamity where I was a wizard. But that one was so weird because we all started at level 20. I know, like 20,000 million. So it was like, you know, a... We want the long climb up the ladder.

Yeah. Did you evocation? Wizard? In Calamity? Yeah. Yeah. That was the other thing, because you was like she had access.

She had like her own library of Alexandria. So, and Brennan was trying to break us. So he was like, I give you permission for Pasha just to have access to every wizard spell in the spellbook. Because I had my little orb. You were the

wizard. Yes. So anyway, talk about her visions. So her visions. So yeah, with because a lot of what I wanted to play with Murray was that like

if the shapers are gone deities are gone but also that magic has to still exist in some way shape or form so can you science what other people in the past

interpreted as divine so a lot of it kind of started from there which is how divination wizard ended up kind of being the path that I took. It has been great. It's been great. I wasn't sure.

I wasn't sure at first, but it's been great. All the flavor and detail you were using is so much fun. It's the coolest fucking character. It's so cool. Love, love, love. But yeah, it's been great. But it's kind of this, the thought that I had in my head was like, how could you science,

miracles more or less and kind of reverse engineer it. So we'll get more into that later, but yeah, and a lot of, also I was a little skeptical of, not portent, because that's my class ability. What's the fucking spell? Augury. I was skeptical of augury because the way it's written in the book is like, oh, you ask the DM a question about the future.

And he says, hand or wheel or hand in, it's like, it's good, it's bad, or the eight ball is like, I don't know, check back later. And I was like, that seems lame. No offense, no offense. But I talked to Brennan and he was like, no, no, no. We can like make this cool and lean into it. and especially from a narrative way, and I can work with you on this.

Yeah, it seems like on the page, it's a little ho-hum for, like, you know, like league night or something. But if you have a game runner who's invested in making it cool with you, then it's been so cool. Yes. And now I'm going to jump on a soapbox. Go, let's go. To be honest, like, the mystery of magic in the world

isn't meant to have everything already figured out. Like, even when you cast a spell, detect magic, this is a 2014, rule thing and it's a little different in 2024, but it says it gives you the school of magic if there is one to give, which means that that magic is boundless. And like when you're trying

to tap into arcane energies and you find a language for it, a somatic gesture, a component, a verbal component, and you call it this thing. It's just like language, just like you can, another language can find a different word to express that same thing and it means

something slightly different. That's That's what we're playing around with here, I think. 100%. This is a different, another language's way of saying augury that now feels like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we've said this before, but all the rules, be it Dungeons and Dragons or Dagger Heart

or whatever game you're playing, is, I mean, you can play this game just like nuts and bolts for sure, like a chess game and stick to those rules. Rules is written religiously, which is great and fun and fine, but obviously what we do is use that. stuff as a skeleton to be creative and that's what Murray is

just all about being creative. The rule is not serving you is serving the game then why have it? Yeah. Yeah for sure. And if you want to have more rules, man, they're available. I will say it's been a lot of pressure though especially like anytime I do Augury and when we were in the theater and getting that and it's like trying to bend

the rule and it's also like Brennan's like what's the question you want to ask the universe and you're like fuck. I don't know there's so much. It's It's easy to see how augury can be a step towards legend lore. It's, you know, it's on that scale. A step towards what?

Towards legend lore. Like, the augury in this world, in this language, articulated in this way, can see how that, I mean, legend lore, does it even exist in Aramon? If it doesn't, then this is a step towards it, maybe. Yeah. It's interesting to hear you talk about the sort of penopticon of self-monitoring, playing the game correctly, when in-game you have a really good amount of monitoring both by yourself and by others, both of you two, that you also have to account for.

So we've got House Einfossen, we've got Dean Kora. What is it like for your characters to have this level of, like, micromanaging? Every interaction is fucking stressful. Yes. It's awful. I'm almost frozen every time I have to deal with Einfosssen. It's terrifying. And Brennan embodies these, it's...

It's insane how he embodies these people that I'm like, I can see. The look behind his eyes has changed. I'm like, oh shit, now he's that guy that's breathing down my neck. Pure tyrannical authority. Just in its distilled, like, ever clear in a bottle. And Brennan has also made it very clear that anytime we are alone in a room with these people, you might as well be alone in a room with a dragon. He's made it very clear that they are all very high level.

Yeah. So in a way, like, even though the soldiers are out there fighting on the front line and the Seekers and meeting the dogs and the seekers are dealing with like other planar dimensional lore, I feel like the schemers are somehow in the most dangerous situations just by being least equipped to... In the least equipped just by being like at a conference room table. You got to use those big beautiful brains maybe. In the fight in the gala, you're like a mosquito that anyone in that room just went. Yeah. Yeah.

Because I walked in. I was invisible. And I knew. I was even, I was like looking at some of the comments when that fight was going on. And people were like, Murray's going to have to drop of invisibility and start slinging spells eventually. And I'm like, I actually fucking can. Yeah. I will die.

Yeah. I cannot. No. We have to play smarter than that. You're so good at it. This is the least, I feel like I can say, like, I can't quite make it all the way back through high school, because I don't remember every game. This is the most well-oiled, like, it's time for the miniatures and to, like, play the tactical game. I have, like, we have it together. Yeah, you do. Like, we really, like, we are a well-oiled machine. I don't know how, and I don't know why, but, like.

It's necessity. It's true. There's no room for being a chaos, Kremlin. Well, you guys have been very, very successful. I mean, you saved King Gus? Can we talk about that assassination attempt and that plot? What do we think? I mean, we know what Murray thinks about King Gus. But what was it like to save his life? An honor, a privilege.

Oh. Murray? You were all in on that. VP, they're pulling off a sick move that didn't ultimately happen and inadvertently set off a move even sicker. Yeah. Insane. Insane.

Just the, yeah. I don't know. I just keep gushing over how you went about that fight because I think I said it in the sort of talk back, how you're making choices that are not sexy on paper, but when you see them play out and see the implications of it and how utterly in the moment they actually are, it's so satisfying.

And I think King Gus is alive because you saved him. Yeah. Yep. He'd be so lucky to hang out with Murray. You guys, there's a couple more questions I really want to get through. We've got about 10 minutes left. But these are all banger questions, and there's a lot happened in your arc. So we've got through Saving King Gus.

Let's talk about Fotark Yenessa. She is risen. How do you guys think this will change the game? schemers play against the creed, and Murray, you're the only one who knows that she was never actually dead. How is she handling that? Yeah, it's a big Murray's word against the leader of a religion.

Yeah, it's not great. It's not a good position to be in. It's incredibly frustrating. How do you guys think tactically you'll move forward against the creed so I can tell Sam? It's interesting because her move, a lot of what we're doing is trying to find ways

to vie for the hearts and minds of the people of this city, like with the mercenaries that we've pulled on board. And Yonessa is doing the same thing. She's trying to increase her followers on Insta by fake resurrecting herself. I think Hal has hopes for his play when it goes up. The subject matter of that play is meant to push the needle in the other direction,

but we'll get there when we get there there. I mean, just from beyond the philosophical point of this just being someone that I am not capable of not loathing as a character. She's so scary. I mean, I'm not even,

Blair's not even thinking about scary. He is just having wonderful fantasies of all the way he would torture her for decades and generations. She is such a wonderful symbol of everything. that makes him upset. I mean, the trick is going to be not killing her. The trick is going to be figuring out how to discredit her either truthfully or untruthfully.

Yes. And then still accepting that that's really only going to get rid of maybe 70% of her base if we're lucky. Yeah. But we need to, like, pull her at least out of power for people who know that she'll fuck up again. It's fully that because you can't make a martyr out of her. No, right. You've got to, like, dismantle it from the foundation. We have to make it look like an ass.

Really, the schemers don't really understand yet just how, I mean, we're like, yeah, she's the worst she's conniving, but she's a whole other person. Like, we don't know just how deep that rabbit hole goes. Yeah. She's spooky. And they don't know, am I right to think that the schemers don't know about the angel? Or do they at this point?

We do not know. Wow. We do not know. I don't think so. No. I know that we don't know because I remember the conversation that we had with Wakander on his way out of town. And he did not say.

Anything that we should know about the halo of ours about your family? And he said, no, no. Yep, that's same. We don't know. That's Sam for you. You don't know. You were there. Not my story to tell, baby.

Yeah, we know that somehow she pulled off this bat shit thing, but we, so we know she's got something, but we don't know what she's. Wow. Bonkers. God, she's so, the way that Brendan plays her, she's so scary, especially when she goes grandma mode and she flips. Oh, my God. It's worse. It is worse. Wiki.

Wiki. Oh, fuck. I got chills. She's a musician for the hallowed around. She's such a good actor. Yeah. Maybe that's how you get her. Maybe there's a world where everybody wins and it's all nice. Like, obviously, Taconas.

Taconis is the most scary, you know, front-facing. Yes. As his projection, he is the most scary. But she is. She's a flim-flam artist. Yeah. Yes. And a good one.

Yes. The worst kind. She's playing the game that we're the game. We are starting to play the schemer game at a crazy level. Yeah, she's like, oh, you scheme, I scheme you back. Yeah, I scheme you back times infinity. I scheme you first.

King, oh my God, nothing on me. She's got a good gig going, man. It's gonna be rough knocking that down. Yeah, yeah. Well, Louise, let's talk about your sister. Oh, Azune just discovered that his sister's alive. And part of the big assassin,

assassination plot. What were his thoughts at that reveal? Those... And did you think you'd ever see her again? So here's the thing. I think that he's really good at pushing things as far away from him as possible. And some of those things

remain distant echoes that kind of are always there and his sister is definitely one of them, but he cannot... Can't think about her. And I think that already in what we saw in that encounter, he's already actively disassociating from that. Like, those are feelings that there's no time, there's no room for that right now.

He's a compartmentalizer. Yeah. You got to be if you're that big of a liar. Yeah. You know? Yeah. You can't. You can't let that.

That truth is too much for the lies he has to tell. Oof. God, I have met people like that in my life. life where it's like, oh, you're so far into your own bullshit, it doesn't even register anymore. Correct. It doesn't even, you're just, you've locked it all in. Moment of clarity would crack everything.

Yeah. Yeah, there will be nothing left. It is. It can be a very serious survival instinct. You know, there's nothing like gaslighting yourself. Yeah. God's so true. Well, speaking of sisters, Talison.

Ah! Termina! Yeah. She's wild. Termina is very, very wild. She, yeah. She's stuck in a box. She was stuck in a box, and I don't know,

I genuinely don't know why. We've talked a little bit about the history of the Panto, of the siblings, of the Six Masks. And yeah, she was the one who did not survive. She was in the play that was put on to kill this goddess. I think I've gotten into this so I can get into the basics. She was the one who played the goddess. So we had to have like a mortal,

a mortal baseline for the goddess to be dragged down under the stage for, and she was, Termina was the no thing. She was supposed to, she's basically like the really clinging girlfriend who just kind of becomes whoever she's in a relationship with into like a, who are you? Oh, very, yeah, very, like, yeah, personality

Yeah, very personality disorder. Your favorite eggs are only the eggs of the guy that you're dating. Exactly. Remember that? Yeah. Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts. So her whole notion was to just be this very clinging thing that was hard to escape while she like,

helped perform this God and then, like, and then died doing it, because that's what happened in the play. and she was dead, and the mask shattered, and everything went kablui, and now she's back. She's the only one who's back. These are all very normal things you're telling us. But also, she's like, the mask, didn't Brennan describe it,

that the mask is still like a little cracked. Yeah, she's a little broken. She's holding herself together, and she was already really iffy. Yeah. She was not built as a character. She was not written as a particularly stable character. I think we've said her word of power, and now, I think, at this point, which is the I am no thing.

And no, this is really bad. Yeah. And now she's made friends. Now she's dating someone really bad. I am no thing. I am no thing. I am no. Yeah. The reference for Sam.

Yeah. It's bad. This fucking mask lore is so bonkers, Talasid. It's so cool. It's so layered. It's so like. It goes deeper. and deeper, too. Yeah, it's just so clear that you had so much fun.

Oh, and I can, like, I'd like the urge to just say random names out right now and be, and, like, oh yeah, we'll get into Brutal. We'll get into, we'll get into, we'll get into, we'll get into the rest of them. They don't even pertain to the story. We haven't met them yet. Rob, Bobber, Stefan. Stuart, I did, I did just say, I did just give two names of masks in the, in the Panto. Tiffany.

Oh, Tiffany. We don't talk about fucking Tiffany. Dude, if one of them was called Tiffany, I would... That would have been... That would have been pretty great. Tiffany, yeah. Termina, Buller. Tiffany.

She's everybody's favorite. Crystal from Ohio. Crystal from Ohio. Tiffany's mask is blue. We have to go soon, but I have to go soon, but I have one more follow-up question. Well, not for those beacon bits. Oh, thank God. We want to see our puppies, our puppy dogs on the chat.

But I have one little B question about Termina, which is that you, do you think that her ultimate mission is the same as yours? Well, the shattered mask kind of freaks me out a bit because I don't know what that means, but we are, I mean, on an essential level, not being real people, just being written characters, we were written to be siblings who love each other,

who also want all the gods dead. Like, so we, that is an immutable fact of who, there is no convincing her not to be that because there's nothing there. There is no argument. You would sooner be able to perform a version of Hamlet where you'd like out of nowhere convinced him to just like fuck off to Paris.

Liam could do that. I mean, yeah, it's the plays over. Like there's nothing, there's nothing there to ground it. Yeah. So I'm just worried about what that means now. Yeah. So ultimately, but at what cost? Well, and she's very susceptible to

manipulation by people and, oh no. Yeah. So I mean, it's, she's you know, she's whosoever she's with. I am glad I asked. Well, you all, this has been a very enlightening tea sash and that is the end of our time

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