Critical Role - Witch Sesh | 4-Sided Dive | Episode 22: Discussing Up To C3E90

Episode Date: April 16, 2024

Ashley Johnson, Liam O’Brien, Laura Bailey, and Marisha Ray fill us in on their latest Ruidus discoveries, discuss character dynamics, and pull questions from the Tower or Inquiry!And as an extra sp...ecial treat, these four will be competing in a party game guanlet with three different Ravensburger party games: That’s Not A Hat, Pinata Blast, and Strike! 4-Sided Dive airs one Tuesday a month on http://twitch.tv/criticalrole and http://youtube.com/criticalrole Twitch Subscribers and YouTube Members gain instant access to VODs of our shows like Critical Role, 4-Sided Dive, Candela Obscura, and Exandria Unlimited. But don't worry: broadcasts will be uploaded to YouTube about 36 hours after airing live, with audio-only podcast versions of select shows on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & Google Podcasts following a week after the initial air date. Twitch Subscribers and YouTube Members also gain access to our official custom emote set and subscriber badges. "Let's Roll (4-Sided Dive Theme)" by Peter Habib and Sam RiegelOriginal Music by Omar Fadel and Hexany AudioAdditional Music by Universal Production Music, Epidemic Sounds, and 5 Alarm

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're so excited to share a new addition to the Critical Role family with our podcast, Midst. In this semi-improvised audio drama, journey to the small desert planet of Midst and follow the lives of three complicated antiheroes as they deal with falling moons, unsolved murders, cult brainwashing, supernatural darkness, and a whole clusterfuck of cosmic problems. Look to the Midstle of the Week, aka Wednesdays, for new weekly episodes at Midst.co, your favorite podcast app or Critical Role's YouTube channel. Welcome to Foresighted Dive, Critical Role's monthly talk show featuring a roundtable discussion about the events and characters of our current campaign, alongside a heavy helping of hijinks. Foresighted Dive airs the first Tuesday of every month at 7 p.m. Pacific on Twitch.tv slash Critical Role and YouTube.com slash Critical Role, with the VOD available on YouTube the very next day.
Starting point is 00:00:55 And of course, each episode releases right here on the Critical Role podcast network one week after the initial broadcast. Let's dive into the chaos. Good evening and welcome to Foresighted Dive. I'm Laura Bailey, your 22nd tavern keeper, and tonight it's witches night, right ladies? Also, Liam is here. I'm sorry. Now, before we get into some big juicy lore dumps,
Starting point is 00:01:25 we have a couple of announcements we need to get through. You see, on the last Foresighted Dive, we had an unfortunate continuity error in the intro. I'm sorry. After Sam Riegel heroically rebooted the bits, we showed the Tower of Inquiry reassembling itself on its own. But then moments later, you could plainly see the tower was still broken behind him.
Starting point is 00:01:47 We weren't going to call attention to it, but our legal department is requiring us to make the following clarifications. First, the Tower of Inquiry did not magically reassemble itself when Sam reactivated the beds. The truth is, the Tower of Blocks does not possess the ability to magically reassemble itself, so we were forced to fake it in post, sorry. Our lawyer slash good boy also wants us to clarify the following. We are no longer rolling for position of host on camera. The decision of who hosts Foresighted Dive is now decided via slap fight. Let's go!
Starting point is 00:02:24 Danny Carr is not actually sliding into a complex array of secret tunnels and corridors laden throughout the studio. The truth is we don't know how she's doing it. Our production's assistants have conducted many searches, but to no avail. Sam Riegel does single-handedly write every single word of Four Sided Dive.
Starting point is 00:02:41 He writes the outline, he writes the prompt to read, he painstakingly oversees the editing process to make sure all of his text is intact because this is his favorite show. Yeah, it's true. And finally, Broomy is actually not a sentient, googly-eyed broomstick. He is, I know, he's just a normal googly-eyed broomstick
Starting point is 00:02:58 that we puppeteered. Creepy Plastic Santa was also a puppet. That Reddit theory turned out to be entirely correct. Moppo, however, is actually very real. And since we cannot find his body, we cannot legally say that he is dead. Now that that's all out of the way, be sure to stick around for more Foresighted Dive.
Starting point is 00:03:17 No, for more Sighted Dive, because tonight we are competing in the party game gauntlet sponsored by Robinsburger. Robinsburger. We will be playing Strike. Strike. Pinata Blast and, that's not a hat. And whoever does the best gets a peruse.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Did I say peruse? That's a typo, no that's a typo, that should say prize. My god, someone call Sam, this is ridiculous. Welcome to Foresighted Dive. Let's do a fucking shoot! Welcome back. Let's begin the night with our open discussion segment, What the Fuck is Up With That? What the fuck is up with that?
Starting point is 00:04:11 What the fuck? Here's our menu of topics tonight. Moon City. Ooh. Moon City. Should I just go through all the topics? Yeah, why not? To start?
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. From top to bottom. Yeah. I'm just going to name the bullet points here, and then we can come back. Yeah. Moon City. These are what's on the menu tonight.
Starting point is 00:04:29 You could get Rebel Squadron. Oh. Our daily special is Two Mission Teams. And the dessert for tonight is Daggerheart. Ooh. Okay, so. Omar's excited. Wait, I do like what that says.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Discuss topics on the menu or don't, I'm not your mom. Is he falling asleep, is that what's happening? I think so. Tucker. Also, I wonder, Kyle, is it bad that he's blocking the sponsorship? Oh yeah, there we go. Just put it in front of him. Is this the internet's best dog yeah. There we go. Just put it in front of him.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Is this the internet's best dog show? There we go. There we go. There we go. Look. Now we can see it. It's okay. It's okay. There we go. You like Robinsburger, don't you? Are you coming for Sam's job? Your new sponsored dog? He's like, I don't know about this.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah. I feel trapped. You just stay. Go, boy. Yeah. I feel trapped. You just stay, good boy. All right, Moon City. Crevirus. It's pretty cool. See, now I know how it's spelled, because I think they're on paper.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I thought the exact same thing. Yep, that's not what I did. I did not spell it like this. I write everything phonetically. I do too, but. So you can say it? So I can say it, but I don't know. You know how to spell it?
Starting point is 00:05:43 I don't recognize it when I see it then later. Oh, right. Yeah, I'm like, what's this place? Have you been say it? So I can say it, but then I don't know. You know how to spell it? I don't recognize it when I see it then. Oh, right. Yeah, I'm like, what's this place? Have you been spelling it with a K or a C? I think I did a K. Yeah, I did a K. I also just hear Jack Black's voice going, there the crevasse, every time it's said.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Did we, had we gone to Kravir's on the last four-sided dive? Did we go to Kravir's on the last four-sided? No. we go to Craverus on the last four-sided? No. We hadn't yet? No. Oh God. You haven't gotten to Craverus yet, but you did get on the outskirts. Hi. Hi, baby.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Hi, baby. Sam's wine okay? How do you guys feel about Craverus? God, it's just what a cool place. It's really cool. Yeah? Yeah. I particularly like going underground of Kraviris.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I do too. I really liked, I mean, I think this is old, but I really liked seeing the elven ruins. Oh, before we got to. Before we got there. I did too. Folded in. Like what city was that originally?
Starting point is 00:06:46 I know, so fucking cool. Yeah, like obviously we imagined Martian landscapes and the stars, but Matt has found ways to keep it shocking and surprising, which includes ruins wadded up like a paper ball and thrown into the sky. And then this underground, I couldn't stop thinking of, was it, what's the David Attenborough narrated show? Was it Planet Earth where they, or maybe I'm thinking some other nature show
Starting point is 00:07:12 where they found this massive ant hill underground and they filled it with concrete. Yeah, and it was like, it was huge. It was like New York City under the ground. So they filled it with concrete and let it dry. Sorry, ants. I know. They had already left.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I saw that. Had they? Yeah, the ants had already left. They had already left for a farm in upstate New York. And then they cleared away all the dirt around it and it was just endless tunnels. Like it looked like something out of a cyberpunk metropolis. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And that's a little bit what I imagine as we spew-lunk through their city. Yeah, it's really awesome. I love, I don't know, it kind of feels like an M.C. Escher painting in my head. With the shh, shh, shh. Yeah, with everything all, and then it all being kind of like an approximation of what, well, now I'm jumping to Kravirus, but it being an approximation of what, well now I'm jumping to Kravirus,
Starting point is 00:08:05 but it being like an approximation of all these different cultures from what they've seen in their dreams. Fucking cool. Yeah, and like. Such a cool concept too. And the glass tower, with everything built around the glass tower.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And then in that model, there were multiple glass towers coming out. Does that mean there's a city at every junction point like that? I don't know. I have no idea. It's so funny. We're not going to have time to know.
Starting point is 00:08:32 We're not going to know. We're not going to know. It's so funny. Maybe the glass spikes are like Pradathos trying to get out. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Spikeys, spikeys. I pictured it as like his brain,
Starting point is 00:08:45 that was like his soul or his brain growing outward because it was so organic, the way like branches came out of it. It reminded me of like nerve endings spreading. 100%. That's a great interpretation, but that might work too. He might just have gigantic Godzilla spikes on her back, his back, its back, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I still don't think Pardothos is a thing. You don't think it's a person? I don't know why. A god? Just a mini mall down there? I think Predathos is something else. Okay. But it feels like it talks, though.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I know, I know. I don't know, I have no basis for this, or it doesn't even make sense, but I still am like, there's something, what is it? There's something else in there and that's not. So wait, do you think it is something, but it's not what they, that it is? Or like, it's all like a construct of our,
Starting point is 00:09:35 of the world's collective imagination? Yes. Okay. Matt doesn't typically run off our expectations. That's probably what it's described as. Yeah. Look at the trust game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Straight forward. He doesn't like to subvert our expectations. And maybe that's why I'm feeling that way. Cause he sometimes, yeah, he'll do the little, little reach around action. We're talking about the show, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about the show, obviously. What are you, yeah. We're talking about the show, obviously.
Starting point is 00:10:06 What are you thinking, Liam? My God, how dare you? He's behind this chair right now. Oh my gosh. Just see a hand come out. Thanks, Matt. This is saying all the knowledge gained at Moon City! Exclamation point.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Look, I know it was- I have more questions than anything else. I do, I do too. I know it was risky for us to split the party, but I'm so glad we did because we got so much more info by doing the two pronged approach. Yeah, we would have just seen one side of the elephant if we'd only gone to one place.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Yeah. Yeah. We got to see so much. Is your dad alive still? I don't know. I don't know. Cause he had gloom, gloom, gloom blot. Gloom blot.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Gloom blot. Gloom blot. Why are you so cute? I know the way he's looking, he's like gloom. I know he's gloom blot. Are you gloom blot? Are you falling asleep? Is it specifically when we say I know.
Starting point is 00:10:57 At the center of Rudas, is there just a massive, crusted over corgi? What if Predathos is a corgi? With a crystal dog harness. I mean, it's like, it's something that was created to control them. Predathos?
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yeah. Or, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, the best we know is that Predathos came and slurped up two gods, and the other gods weren't having it, so they smashed them into an Exandrian sandwich and probably took some people along for the ride, and those people, the different peoples that went up,
Starting point is 00:11:37 became who we now are meeting. Roy Lawrence? Yeah. Well, if you remember, because I was like, oh, we know information, because I was like, oh, we know information. Because they were like, we're, after a certain amount of generations, we kind of don't know where we came from. And we kind of forgot.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And Laudna was like, we kind of have information on that when we were talking to Rashina. I was like, do you want me to tell you? And she was like, maybe later. Yeah. Maybe some other time. And I was like, do you want me to tell you and she was like Maybe later. Yeah, maybe some other time and I don't know. Okay, maybe don't want to know Yeah, I mean it might it would throw your whole system out of whack to find out like everything that you've known since birth It's not the truth. Yes. Yeah, right and the fact that they were they're like, oh we want to cuz like the big thing that they They want to go to Exandria. They want to go to the Promised Land.
Starting point is 00:12:34 But what they don't know, or like what it seems like they don't know is that theoretically they were from Exandria. Like they started there and got like ripped away. They either got ripped away or maybe they're made of pure thought, but I think they were ripped away from Exandria. Yeah. And also, I mean, it's been how many years? They said the Hive Mind is like 500 years. Yeah, and also, I mean, it's been how many years? They said the hive mind is like 500 years, thereabouts. But that's how old Chet is. Right, it's much older, the moment of ripping,
Starting point is 00:12:56 that was back way before Age of Arcanum and Calamity. This is driving Dani crazy. I know. Am I getting it wrong? No, you're doing great. It's way earlier. No, you're doing great. It's way earlier. No, you're great. I was just coming up to Vibe
Starting point is 00:13:07 because I felt like maybe I could help. I was just coming up to Vibe. It's also super cold in the basement. Because to me, I thought, what if, what if the hive mind were the OG wizards, powerful people that thought that they could release Pardasos. Those ones that were like originally like,
Starting point is 00:13:28 let's take down the gods. And when they got ripped up, they just kept. That idea. That idea and they had formed a connection with Pardasos, so that's why they are what they are. But yeah, we know that before. But then they were saying there was a before time. It's before then, it's before the,
Starting point is 00:13:42 because the Calamity was like 900-ish. Calamity. So y'all are in 843 PD. Because the calamity was 900 years ago-ish. Yeah. And it lasted centuries. Yes. And then there was also centuries probably before then, which is when Ruidus was shot into the sky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Because Ruidus was shot into the sky at the end of the founding. Because it was at that point where, it was before the schism happened where the gods became prime deities and betrayer gods. Right. That makes sense. So Ruidus is a man-made moon.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. If we lift it up. They chunked off. Middle America. Not all, the whole of it, not like pieces of it.
Starting point is 00:14:28 No, the whole thing. The whole thing was ripped out of Exandria. They peeled a scab off the globe and balled it up, and that's why there's ruins from Exandria in it, because it took stuff along with it. And what we know is, well, I don't know, Bell's House doesn't know, but we as people who follow Exandrian lore, elves were first. So the gods kind of very much creationism, gods created man in their image kind of a thing.
Starting point is 00:15:00 The gods created elves first. Elves. And then dwarves. Dwarves, then humans. Yeah. And then everybody else kind of came after that. They were the first three that were created. And this is, of course, as Matt likes to remind us,
Starting point is 00:15:15 this is the founding myth. This is what everybody believes happened. This is what you're told. But that's right. Because even if it, cause yeah, if it's the founding myth is that elves came first, that seems very superiority driven. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So, but, and if elves are the oldest, then they would be able to tell everyone. Right. Whatever, yeah, they could, they write the history, right? So, Matt always likes to go against those ideas and concepts. Which is what a big thing that is being explored in this campaign is I've set up this world and now I'm going to tell you
Starting point is 00:15:54 that everything I've told you is wrong. Yeah. So that has been the theme of this one is what do you do when faced with everything you know could be wrong. Yes. So. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:06 We do know that Xandre is about 6,000 years old like Earth is. Kill me. Oh my god. What's it do? Oh no. You fell over. He just needed a pillow.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Oh he's in heaven now. Pillow. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. I'm being so cute. That's it, this is the rest of the show. I'm going. This is a chocolate chip.
Starting point is 00:16:24 You guys, what about the rebel squadron, the Volition? This is the rest of the show. This is a chocolate chip. You guys, what about the rebel squadron, the Volition? They're cool. They're kind of, I mean, I liked Gaz. I like Gaz. Even though Gaz might be dead. He can't be. I think he is, I think my mom killed him.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I think so too. She exploded. We tried to tell them. But it is so, we had such a short amount of time with them. I know, it's- They already had such a plan and we came in last minute. It's a big mess. It's a big mess.
Starting point is 00:16:53 It's a real big mess. Yeah. It's not donezo, like we could pull it out of the fire, but it's in the fire right now. Yeah, we definitely needed to get in good with them though, so that our crew on Exandria could have a backup army here. Yeah. They do seem a little, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I don't know, we didn't have that much time, but what's her name? Rasheena. Rasheena. They seem a little very like, Rasheena George. Yeah. Yes. They seem a little like- She's Sheena George. Yeah. Yes. They seem a little like- She's a really big deal. She's- One time she punched me in the face.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And I liked it. And I liked it. Yeah, I don't know, they seem very like, kind of like they got horse blinders, like so narrow focused on their cause that I don't know if they're thinking outside of their shit. I think about a lot is who, all the different factions and parties,
Starting point is 00:17:54 and the Volition, and the Hivemind, and Ludinus, and all of the recruits they've got, like who knows the most of all those people? Who's playing who? Is Ludinus, does he have the whole thing figured out more than these Ruidian psychics at the center of the planet? Do they both think they've got the upper hand
Starting point is 00:18:21 and they both only have a piece? Is Predathos just... Playing everybody everybody twiddling his thumbs going come on and let me out and and he's lying to everybody it seems a little like the idea that I got with the with the volition is they're very focused on like fighting the weave and don't care about Pradathos and don't care about any of that and it felt like we were trying to tell them you don't understand there's this whole other layer to this scheme but that's been going on they don't need to know it though yeah if we can help the Volition take down the Weave Mind, then that's Ludinus' stronghold on Ruidus, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Because that's who he's working with. So if we take down the Hive Mind, Weave Mind, it's chaos. And then that's... Then the civilians can rise up and do whatever they want, and Ludinus won't have any. That's interesting. I also feel like there was an element with the volition in Roshina of like, I know I wanna do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I know, I got so jealous when you did it. I did the same thing. When, like, how do I put this into words? That they're almost used to people coming in and being like, I know what the problem is. Or like, I know, here, here's something that you, and they're like, we've been here longer than you.
Starting point is 00:19:49 We know what's going on here. Yeah. But. No, that's the thing. Also, Ira going uptown with those explosives, like, way over the top. Yeah. I mean, it's good though, if he can bring down everything, awesome.
Starting point is 00:20:04 He's just, he's so. He's in revenge mode. He's just as chaos revenge. He doesn't really care what happens. No. I think you're right. He's like. He's just having fun. I think he's just having fun. I mean, really?
Starting point is 00:20:15 What if he can just escape back to the fey land whenever he wants and he's just like. Let it all burn. I'm just on. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just hanging out here because it's different. He's just gonna do something fun. Gonna pull some blocks out of the Jenga tower
Starting point is 00:20:28 and then bounce out and see what happens. Yeah, he's the cat on the table, just slowly pushing glasses off the edge. Oh, I jumped ahead. I jumped ahead from that to two mission teams. I'm following this strictly. It's Jazz, baby. Jazz is chaos.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Doing great, Laura. Two mission teams, we da-vided up. I thought. I'm doing this strictly. It's Jazz, baby. Jazz is good. Doing great, Laura. Chaos. Two mission teams, we divided up. I thought. Divided. Divided up. FCG was gonna die. I did too.
Starting point is 00:20:55 In Ashton. Yeah. They got close. Matt was very kind to let them do the hole on the ground with the blast coming at them. Yes, he was. He likes creative ideas. Yes, and it was a creative idea.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yeah, if you can try to sell them on a creative idea, I'll be like, okay. I'll make you roll for, it was a really high DC. This is a game that you're all trying to have fun playing, so I will A plus for you. Because they took half damage, it took FCG down to like two hit points, right? At a hundred and something, wasn't that the full?
Starting point is 00:21:29 That's half damage! If it had done full, and if it doubled, but also if it doubles your full health, don't you just die, die, die. If you, right, if you have 50 hit points and you get knocked down below negative 50, you die straight out.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Yeah. So he could've just been. That would've been riveting. I died. Metal shards. We would never split the party again. Yes, we would. Yeah, we would.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Because we're in a terrible situation now, but that's where, I don't know about them, but that's where we want them to be. That's where the fun is. That's where the problem is, that's the fun. The danger is the fun. The danger. I really didn't think though,
Starting point is 00:22:10 like as soon as we thought about how we divided our teams, I was like, oh no, what were we thinking? But I think it worked out actually really well. I think it worked out, but it was like both, you had FCG and then sometimes Fern can do healing. So you had like all of the healing. Well, I guess you can too. Can you heal?
Starting point is 00:22:28 Am I making that up? You're making it up. Latina can heal a teeny bit. A little bit. I can allow people to roll. It was just enough. I can allow people to roll their hit dice or their like short hit dice. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:39 If you want to. That's all I got. But yeah, I mean, I do think it was the right call to split the party beyond the fact that we got a lot more information this way. If we were all in that fucking tunnel. Half of us would have died. For sure. And if we'd have all been climbing the window,
Starting point is 00:22:57 FCG and Fern, you would have had a real hard time. We would have been so busted. Yep, that wouldn't have been great. I thought it was more fun too. I thought it was more harrowing and you know, you know you don't have the so busted. Yep. That wouldn't have been great. I thought it was more fun, too. I thought it was more harrowing and, you know, you know you don't have the whole squad with you, so it feels, it felt like there was a way bigger chance of things going wrong and things did.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Yeah. And I liked how Matt jumped back and forth. Yeah, it was fun. He was like, was it engaging? Because, you know, we'll drive home and he'll be like, Still nine years in. Yeah, was it fun? He does. Yes. I think that was the most fun game we've had in like a nine years in. Yeah. Does it have fun? It does.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I think that was the most fun game we've had in a really long time. I loved it. So much fun. I was like, even though we weren't, you would stop playing, we were still so engaged in what the other people were doing.
Starting point is 00:23:37 It was so fun to watch. Just like Omar. He's so engaged. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. He's so happy right now. Oh, I want to be.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Does he ever, does he talk in his sleep? Yeah. He'll gosh. He's so happy right now. Oh, I want to be loved. Does he talk in his sleep? Yeah, he'll sometimes do like, there are these little barks, and his little paws where he's like, you can tell he's chasing something. I gotta get a dog, you guys. I gotta get another dog.
Starting point is 00:23:59 You gotta get a dog, oh. It's time. It is. Ronan needs a brother or a sister. So he's been asking for a pug, a King Charles Spaniel, or a... What was the last one? I can't remember. But then yesterday he goes, Mom, I decided I don't want a King Charles Spaniel. I was like, oh, what dog do you want instead? And he was like, no, I want a lizard. What?
Starting point is 00:24:23 I know. And he was like, there's I want a lizard. What? I know. And he was like, there's a girl in my class that had a lizard and she was hugging it and now I want, I didn't know you could have lizards. I want a lizard. I'm surprised. I want a lizard. In love of dinosaurs, I would have thought
Starting point is 00:24:34 they would have been on that for ages. But I was like, you can't teach lizards tricks, baby. Yeah. Just because nobody has before. Maybe somebody's taught lizard tricks. No, I wonder if they've had. I'm sure there's movie lizards that have to learn tricks. There's gotta be.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Yeah, where they have to go to one of them. Omar, will you play with Sprig soon? Will you do a play date with Sprig at the beach? Do you want a baby lizard to go on your back? Oh, I think it was when they went to the beach, right? A lot of times he'll, when he hears his name, he perks up. He's sleepy now. Omar, wanna see Sprig?
Starting point is 00:25:10 Oh gosh. Yeah, he wants to see you. Yeah, you love Sprig, don't you? So wait, how are we gonna escape the moon? Space shuttle. Are we gonna go, are we? How are we gonna escape? Because we gotta get out like fast, right?
Starting point is 00:25:26 We're like- The volition right now. What do you mean? We're not in trouble with the volition. Aren't we? No, why would we be? You don't think, did she know is a problem for us? No.
Starting point is 00:25:37 No. No? I don't. Cause if- Oh, like if the volition finds out that we- If anything is gonna prove like she, like she had no idea. If she had any idea, it would have been from me.
Starting point is 00:25:48 She didn't. But they could be like, oh, you reached out to her. Yeah, before we went. But she was like, did she know? Which means we didn't tell her. No, we didn't tell her. Wait, what did you say? You were like...
Starting point is 00:26:05 These people talk to each other in dreams. Yeah. Everyone on the planet. For all they know, she would have to leave. She technically didn't tip her off. I didn't. You said to run. If anything, it looked like I was threatening her.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Who cares about technically? It's just what it appears to be. We're not in trouble with the Vowish. If Liliana went, I knew you were coming, and Emperor executes all of them, they're going to ask questions. They are asking questions. We told them straight up,
Starting point is 00:26:31 she is way more powerful than you realize. Yes. Yes, of course, that's how we have to play it. But I think that they're on high alert. Well, we got their prisoner back, so... And we blew up their prison. Pitch it to them just like that. I will. What do you think they were doing in there? What do you mean? To the prisoners. We got their prisoner back, so. And we blew up their prison. Pitch it to them just like that.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I will. What do you think they were doing in there? What do you mean? To the prisoners. Oh. Were they gonna turn her into something else? They're all like super into like bioengineering. And then it seems like, it seems like the Rylorans have a little
Starting point is 00:27:04 like eugenics situation going on. Yeah, is it a little like Captain America Super Soldier program? Pretty sure they're all racist and have their superiority. The stratas of society, yeah. Yeah, like the Thought Eaters and the Mystics are the highest.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Like order. Even the Hul are like looked down upon compared by comparison Yes, yeah, cuz it's like a or like whatever was taken up there. They were they were still doing that was it a or They would have been no cuz it was crashed on to exandria. Yes, not it would have been another again That was we ran into freaky, crazy lab experiments in Aor, the big baby monster. That was in Aor. That whole area. And y'all found the Aor tech in Ruidus. Yes. So they are for
Starting point is 00:27:53 sure linked. They are for sure linked. But they did not make Ruidus out of Aor. Halas had a lab with oogity boogity stuff. Think about it, Aor was surrounded by water. What if back then it wasn't like a water continent? What if it was like just a giant piece of land and like everything got taken up except for that one little chunk? Wait, say again what you mean?
Starting point is 00:28:14 Aeor was a flying city. And it crashed. Yeah. Aeor was a flying city, it crashed. Yeah. In the calamity. Okay, never mind then. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Cricket. What if it was like the area that Aor was? Shut up, Laura. The sky? No, I don't hate where you're going with this. Because, like, I like this. There's something to it. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Okay. What is more likely? Hang on. I got this, Dani. I don't know what it is, but there's something to it. Okay. Well, what is more likely, hang on, I got this, Dani. I got this. Okay. Hang on. They're tuning in for. What's probably more likely is one or two things.
Starting point is 00:28:57 A, or both, A, lewdness is bringing Aortech to ruin. That tracks. Or two, they're also maybe have harvested Ludinus is bringing Aeortek to Ruidus. Or two, they're also maybe have harvested some Aeortek via dreams. Oh, maybe they've been seeing dreams that, no. Yeah, right, right. Dani, come back and I'll help.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Dani, help us again. Timeline. I don't hate that idea. You guys were explicitly told that y'all have seen, that they have seen Ludinus bringing strange devices across the bridge. Okay, so it's Ludinus.
Starting point is 00:29:35 That they have been, that the dreamers have been bringing things across the bridge that are very strange. Like little magical Cerberus engines that we don't understand completely yet. So Ludinus has been going to Aeor. Potentially. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I mean the Cerberus assembly back in the Mighty Nein. That's right, they were there. We're super obsessed with Aeor. Oh my gosh. The Cerberus assembly? Do we think that Luda had a way to get to the moon before the Bloody Bridge or? Luda. No way to get to the moon before the bloody bridge? Or, no, because we found a back door.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I don't think he would have gone that hard to get it. I don't either. Well, and also the implication is that he's been waiting for hundreds of years for this to all line up and do this. If he had had a back door entrance that whole time. Two, three weeks. What a loser. I can't wait to rub it in his face
Starting point is 00:30:24 that we found the backdoor entrance like easy peasy lemon squeezy and he'd been like trying for hundreds of years. Yeah, to suck the moon down. I was like, you know Matt, put that there for us. Wait, I don't know. But though, but though. You know, he claimed it.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Matt's so dumb, we found this entrance. Put it right there. Wait, remind me, the water portal that was in Eor. We went, did we go through that? We went through it. There was no water portal in Eor. What are you talking about? What am I talking about?
Starting point is 00:31:00 The water portal was in that little swamp town that we found. No, no, no, it was in that swamp town. I we found. Elwynn ruins your swamp town? No, no, no, it was in that swamp town. I'm so sorry, I'm talking about in Mighty Nein. There was a water portal in Mighty Nein 2? Uh-huh. What?
Starting point is 00:31:13 Yeah, there was. Was there? Walk me through your process. Okay, it was like the time we were in, I feel like it was around the time when we were going down into all the different levels. Oh, yes, in Rumblecusp. That was Rumblecusp.
Starting point is 00:31:28 No, not Rumblecusp. The portal to the Astral Sea in Aeor? Yes, the portal to the Astral Sea in Aeor. That's what I'm thinking of. Oh, it was the Astral Sea. Oh, yes, that did open another portal into the water plane, and that is how y'all got, yes, so what they had was specifically a device
Starting point is 00:31:43 that could open portals in different, what are you doing? Nothing, I just realized my mouth was hanging open and I was trying to close it. My immediate like anxiety brain was like, are y'all making fun of me? No, I'm not. I realized I was listening to you. You know 10 times more than any of us do.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I had TV watching face listening to you and I was trying to correct it. So that thing can just like open up a portal anywhere? So you have to have the key. That's why y'all had to get a key to Cognouza and everything. And so, but they had a device essentially that as long as you had the right passcode, essentially you could open a portal
Starting point is 00:32:16 to any of the different realms. Cause we were like chasing them through portals. Yes, yes. So he opened a portal to Waterplane so that y'all would get through. Yeah, I vaguely remembered it and I was like, is there a portal connection? No, there's not.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Mighty Nein was like four years ago now. It's so long ago. That we were finishing that. How wild is that? There's like so much that we have of a game that it's hard to remember at all. Are you okay? She did it on purpose, I saw.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Oh, she did it like, oh I saw. Okay. Oh, she really. Oh my gosh. I did a- Don't scare me. We were in a meeting and Rachel, our marketing lead, she was like, when did you guys start Bills Hells again? And I was like, oh, like fall of last year. And someone else was like, no, Marisha, it's been like three years. And I was like, oh, like fall of last year. And someone else was like, no, Marisha, it's been like three years.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And I was like. Is it weird that Bell's Hell still feels like new? It does, it kind of does. Yeah, it does. It's weird. It doesn't make sense. Look at this, how did I get to be on the show with the best members of Critical Role?
Starting point is 00:33:22 I won't say which two it is. How did it? Clearly Omar. And Danny's the editor. And Danny. Oh, you guys. I'm not a member. Member by proxy.
Starting point is 00:33:38 That's me, proxy bitch. Proxy witch. Hell yeah. Proxy witch. No yeah. Proxy witch. No, you're a witch. I am in my full witch outfit. I wore a witch for the witches. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And Liam. And also Liam is here. Who is calling Imogen? But that's my mom, right? That's not, there's no doubt. No, we don't know that. No, because it's lavender hair up above. It was my mom. That's what he said?
Starting point is 00:34:06 Yeah, she said it was lavender hair, so it's gotta be my mom. Why are you using a face? I don't know. I wonder if it's Rashina. Did she know? That's what I'm saying. Oh, Rashina was the one that said, did she know? We don't know, it's not confirmed.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I just assumed it was my mom that said, did she know? Why would Rashina say, did she know? Like, cause it would, I know. Back it up. Did I know that? Oh, did she, did Lillian know? Lilliana? Lilliana know?
Starting point is 00:34:34 Oh, like she's, Did Lilliana know? Yes, yes, which is. She wasn't imaging it was. Oh, I thought. They walked in there and Lilliana fucking slaughtered them. Now I understand why you were saying that. So now Rashina was like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:34:45 Did she know? Yes. Did Liliana get a warning? Maybe I should ask that other person who looks just like Liliana. Well, we don't know, though. Oh, Joe! I don't know, though.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Because you could interpret it the other way. I don't know that you could interpret it a lot of ways. Of course we don't, but be ready for that version of it. Okay, okay. Wait, wait. she know that they were coming? But be ready for that version of it. Okay, okay. Okay, but wait, wait, wait. Ah! At the end of the game, did we clarify if it was, we didn't clarify who it was that was talking?
Starting point is 00:35:10 No, he left it open. Oh, god, okay. Well, we're gonna find out. We're gonna find out so soon. And the thing is, you didn't specifically say like, hey, something's happening tomorrow. Oh my god. You should just run at some point in your life.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And Liliana killed everybody, and then, she's saying, did she know, oh no. Oh god, that's why the Volition hates us. What are we gonna do? We gotta run, we gotta get off the moon. We got their prisoner back. Could convince them.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Got the prisoner back and then we blew off the digging rig. You're really good at talking to people. Yes. Yes, you are. So it's possible to navigate. Yes. But that could go south. I need somebody to give me advantage.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Wait, wait. We sat there and we told Gaz and Rashina, like, she was going to fuck your shit up. Like, we told her that. Ugh. Freaking out. Wait, what did you, say that again? We told them, like, you don't wanna fuck with Illyana. She was hyper powerful. Yeah, which is a card we could play, for sure.
Starting point is 00:36:17 We told you. We could work that angle. We're like, we said you're gonna come in here, like, and get fucking rolled. What? Oh no, you're good. I just wanted to contribute to the conversation because I think it's really interesting. Uh-huh. You're gonna come in here like and get fucking rolled No, it's just because like yeah fully that's totally a way that you could play But also if you've warned somebody that oh, they're really powerful and then she fucks your shit up I can totally see sole survivor of that going,
Starting point is 00:36:47 what the fuck did she know? Because then it feels like y'all were gently warning them because you knew that she was going to come at y'all with big guns. Right. I don't know. I don't know. It's going to come down to persuasion.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Look, Otohan has almost destroyed us two times now. She murdered me. Right? Yeah. Yeah. persuasion. We're gonna like, we definitely understand. Look, Otohan has almost destroyed us two times now. She murdered me. Right, and. Yeah. Yeah, she did kill us. I did a die. I did a death.
Starting point is 00:37:11 She murdered me. So. She murdered all three of you. Yeah, me too, but. She did, she did. Oh yeah, she killed us all. She killed three people. It was just for a bit.
Starting point is 00:37:20 She did a murder. She did. You. Me. And we brought you back so you could bring. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. You brought me back because I'm so fun. That's right.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Okay. You're one of the best members. I figured it was. She's one of them? Yeah. Fuck. It's me. It's me.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Slap fight, Marisha. Give the people what they want. Let's talk about Daggerheart. Yeah! Yeah! Oh my goodness. Woohoo, dagger heart! The menagerie!
Starting point is 00:37:47 The menagerie. Oh, how fun was that? That was so much fun. So fun. Which is funny, because we had like fully decided another name before we started playing, and then the menagerie was like. Well, we still kept it.
Starting point is 00:37:56 We did. We just made a tiered system of titles. We could make it more tiers, too. We're the, what was it? We're the menagerie of the Grim... Of the Grim Wardens. The Grim Wardens of Lockspire, which is the name of the world.
Starting point is 00:38:11 The land. The land, yeah. I will die for Oppie. Oh. I will. Don't. No, I will. We can... God, these characters were fun. Good name, good visual description.
Starting point is 00:38:24 So great. Was it? Good voice. Did you do oppy beta heart so it would be like open beta? Yeah. Yeah. I was like, well, because since we were like riffing at the table and then like even sort of going through and re-watching our session zero to see like what I had said, make sure I get everything down.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Your full description, you had so much. I know. Already like, you, cause you were sitting there and there was just like 10 minutes where you're just like writing. And I was like, oh she's got a whole story already. It was so much, like, we, I had nothing. We were roll-easing for our frickin'.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Yeah. And then afterwards, I thought about it, we should've just both been Ribbits, because we could've been just regular sisters then. Then we could've. No, it's funnier this way. But then I think- Yeah, no, I know.
Starting point is 00:39:17 But I just love the fongirl. I love the fongirl. The fongirl's great. So cute. And what if Sweet Pea, maybe Sweet Pea was a ribbit and then turned into... Oh, like what if my whole family was actually ribbits? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I don't know. I hadn't thought about that. We're making up new backstory. Yeah, as we go along. I thought ribbit came to us as like a little tadpole, like swam up into our village. It's so cute too. Help me! I'm just saying it could work.
Starting point is 00:39:49 It could work, it could work. I have ideas. I have ideas for a backstory. But it was also so much of just like, well we'll see what happens. We'll just put this out and show a session zero and then play the game. And I was like, wait, but this is fun. Oh, you get to go to school again, right? I just love the session zero of a Daggerheart game. It's so fun.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Yeah, character creation is awesome. The reception. That guy slept so good that night. There's so much leading up to it. And you're like, whenever you put anything out into the world, and especially because we have so many creatives on board who have been, like, pushing their whole life, yes, their whole life essence into it, and you're just like,
Starting point is 00:40:34 please, I hope people like it. Please, people like it. Menagerie aside, the one shot aside, I'm so proud of everyone who's worked on it in every respect from top to bottom because people have been at it for a long time behind the scenes. Like we've known about this for ages. And, you know, there's all that like opening night buildup to like, we're going to show it to the world and to, you know.
Starting point is 00:40:56 It's scary. It's scary to like put, it's always, it doesn't matter how long we do this. Like whenever you like take something new and like put it put yourself out there I'm you know in this case dozens and dozens of people putting themselves out there. It's like It's scary. Yeah. Yep, so Pretty it was good. Yeah, I'm stoked. I already want to make other I just want to make a slew of characters I know. With every class, with every species. What are we calling it?
Starting point is 00:41:28 The back of people being like, I've already made 15 characters. I mean, yeah. Just awesome. I'm just doing Irish monkeys. The only Irish monkeys. I like to pick an accent and work backwards from there. I usually take a lot longer to come up with a voice.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Like, I don't know. Like, I feel like when we create characters for our like core campaigns at post Vex, because like when we all did our originals, I think we just kind of like- It was a whim. Yeah, it was, which is, I think what made the Menagerie so fun,
Starting point is 00:42:02 cause it turned out to be like, it was a whim character again. Like, oh yeah, this is not gonna do, we're not gonna actually play with this, probably, but. Yeah, and then you're like, oh shit, I really like this really fast character they created, I wanna dive and find out everything about them.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah. Yeah, because we were like, let's just do this one, we'll see how it goes. And then we like like in the one shot and it felt like a, like a war room press moment where it's like the young man in a flat cap runs in. He's like, we got the results. Everybody loves it.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And I was like, oh fuck. Oh God. But Matt left it so open. It like begged to be played. We gotta play that again. I know. Also the night before on our decade old text, I was like, should we,
Starting point is 00:42:52 I guess we should probably come up with like a name for these guys because people might like them, I guess, right? Just in case. Just in case. Yeah. But I mean, it's a bug and a monkey and a mushroom and a frog. Yeah, that's probably. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:43:06 It doesn't make any sense. Think about how long we took to come up with Belltel. I know. Yeah. We were just like, uh. So many lists. Yeah. So many lists.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Generations, yeah. So that's funny that we were just like right before the game. I did. We're the menagerie. Another thing that I saw people being like, I really like Daggerheart because like force it like the game calls for like a session zero and I
Starting point is 00:43:34 Wonder what it would have been like if Bells Hells had done a session zero and I'm like we did We did have you got if you all remember we came in Like Mike me and you came in together FCG and Ashton came in together. Obviously, the Crown Keepers came in together. We did a whole miniseries. But it's, we, which is why we wanted something like that in Daggerheart, is because that's something that we already do and like doing. And, you know.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Yeah, it's kind of codifying what we've been doing. What we already do, because like so much of what Daggerheart was meant to be was us kind of like putting all kind of collectively putting what we want to see out of a tabletop RPG into a game. Yeah, so we gravitate towards and Correct, and here's the tools to do it. Did we do it at the studio, our session zeros,
Starting point is 00:44:23 or did we do it at our houses? We did it at the house. I remember, like, me and you were at your house, and then I think, like, I think Sam and Taliesin did theirs here at the studio. We kind of, like, broke up into pairs. I still remember vividly my Caleb and not session zero. I remember, like, our Bo, Jester, and Ford one. Bo, Jester, and Ford came in together so much fun
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah, walk through a field of grass and Knowles popped out and went really badly for me. Yeah Cuz in our session zero we Did you do it? Did you do a solo I know Probably yeah Is he blowing his mustache? I know. Probably. You were still right on the blind spot cusp at that time. Yeah. Yeah. Even with that dog.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I know. No. Is there cellophane by his right foot? I think so, it is. It is, it looks like. What happened? Oh, it probably came from the box. Oh, it's a sticker.
Starting point is 00:45:22 It's a little sticker. Oh, he just moved his tootser in. Should I move to the next section? It's a Tower of Inquiry! It's time for a question from the Tower of Inquiry. According to legend, when someone pulls a block from the tower and reads its number aloud, a bespeckled lady will read you a question.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Bespeckled? Are you bespeckled today? I don't have bespeckles today. Well, shit. And if for whatever reason the tower should fall, there will be terrible consequences for the person responsible. Lam!
Starting point is 00:45:52 Is it a good brick or a bad brick? All right. I'm not a brick at all. Okay. Are you a good witch or a bad witch? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Oh, I'm not a witch at all. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:46:05 That's easy. Easy peasy middle witch at all. That's easy. Easy peasy middle. Happy St. Patrick's Day. That is far-teen. Far-teen. Far-teen. Far-teen. Far-teen.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Far-teen. Teen. From Knight of Rohan. Nice. If Bell's Hells met the Menagerie, which members would they get along with the most? Oh my gosh. If Bell's Hells met the menagerie which members would they get along with the most? We would get along with Xerxes I bet That's Travis's character right no kecks and kicks and yeah, there's a series is calamities care. Oh
Starting point is 00:46:40 yours Zarlo I Feel like Fernwood fall remember the. Zarlo. I feel like Fern would fall in love with Bunny. Yeah. I feel like it'd be like, what girl, all of it? Yes, yes, yes. Just working it. Working it.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Just working. Just into it. Both fawns. Both fawns. Fawning over each other. Yes. I also feel like Fern would love Sweet Pea. Cause can you break? Oh my gosh. But you try to like catch her and like, I also feel like Fern would love sweet pea. Cause, give me a break.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Oh my gosh, but you try to like catch her and like, just one small bite. Just hang out on my pocket. I just have a small bite. Just a little niblet off the top. You'd see endless fencing with Orm and a turtle. Oh my gosh. Yes. That's great, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I think Laudna would be obsessed with Oppie. Yeah. It wouldn't be a problem. You have to meet Pate. And then go stay in the birdhouse. Grab him and shove him in with all your other birds. I would. You're coming with me.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Oh, all right. Well, okay. Still figuring out the voice. Just a tongue. Yeah. One of my favorite moments was you were just hanging from a tree, and you described how you were slowly sliding. Oh, so good.
Starting point is 00:47:55 So slippery. Yes. Just a slimy oppy. I forgot about that. Re-adjust. Shit, I'm so slimy. Ashley, speaking of slimy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Go. Okay. Speaking of your slimy face. I'll be getting the staff, getting your staff going. Oh, sorry. Sorry, Omar. Omar was like, why? I was nothing.
Starting point is 00:48:20 What do I want to do? Do I want to do a tough one? Yeah. Josie, please. Do it, do it, do it? Do I wanna do a tough one? So sleepy. He plays with yogurt. Oh! Oh my gosh, if he knocks on the door fast. That made me scared. Oh, dough.
Starting point is 00:48:35 39. 39. Oh, he's ready, he's done, I was bothering him. 39. Oh, buddy. You need to come sit to my lap. Look at me down, mama. Here he comes.
Starting point is 00:48:44 I don't like it. Oh, doy You want to come sit in my lap? Look at me down, mama. Here he comes. I don't like it. Oh, do you? Good job. Step away, step away, step away. From frangus underscore, Matt has alluded to an underwater society on Exandria before, with possibly more hidden. What would be your dream hidden society
Starting point is 00:49:02 to visit in a campaign? In any campaign? In a campaign. A campaign, in one of our campaigns? No. Any campaign. Well, just because we were talking about Daggerheart and Lockspire, we gotta figure out what this chaos dog
Starting point is 00:49:18 is about tied to the mountain. Yeah, yeah. That's not really a hidden location. That's some dumb shit Sam said, but it's so amazing. Sububi, I would like to get a look at Sububi. At Sububi. Yeah, Sububi. After the seep.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I wanna go to the underwater mermaid world. I do too. I do too. So bad. There are probably even more creatures and things that are in the world that we could also add. What if you want to be a mermaid? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:54 But I guess you can only be in the water. I don't know how that would work. Maybe it'd be like Splash. You know, you come out of the water, you grow some legs. No, that's not Splash. Splash kept a fin, didn't she? That's an old movie. That's H20. Tom Hanks., that's not Splash. Splash kept a fin, didn't she? That's an old movie. That's H20.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Tom Hanks? She had legs in Splash. Did she ever get legs? Daryl Hannah. Daryl Hannah, yeah. Oh, I love that movie. Yeah, she got, okay, Splashmore. When she dried out. Yeah, she would get legs, but then if she got any water on her,
Starting point is 00:50:18 she would have the fin again. So I just very vividly remember Daryl Hannah huddling under a tunnel while it rained. It was very intense for me as a little girl who loved mermaids. So pretty. Their orange tail. Did you guys ever watch H20?
Starting point is 00:50:32 What is H20? Halloween? Isn't it like a mermaid thing? What? Hold on. I don't know that one. Sorry, goodbye. Oh, I would have you pull Marisha,
Starting point is 00:50:43 but there's an Omar in your lap. I can pull that. So, thank you, Knight of Rohan and Frangus underscore. If you have a question for our Tower of Inquiry, you can enter it at critroll.com slash tower. It's, what?
Starting point is 00:50:59 Oh, go ahead. No, I was just going to move on to the next block. Johnny, come lately with me, answer that question. It's to the next block. I'm Johnny-come-lately with my answer to that question, and it's not exactly the right answers, but there's things in Exandria. Tell us about H2O. Yeah, this is what's important, Liam, so be quiet. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:17 This is H2O, or wait, no, that was an addition. Just add water. What? What? That's a clothing store. Kind of a weird thing to say. Just add water, isn't that was an addition. Just Add Water. What? That's a clothing store. Kind of a weird thing to say. Just Add Water, isn't that the bathing suit store? Aquamarine, not H2O.
Starting point is 00:51:32 H2O was the sequel. Aquamarine with Emma Roberts. Yes, I have seen Aquamarine. What? And JoJo Siwa? Sarah Paxton, yeah. What, no, really? Yes, so good.
Starting point is 00:51:45 It was like a Disney movie. It can't be that long ago. Not that long ago, but like. This was in Aquamarine. It was, no, not JoJo Siwa. JoJo. I don't think you, I don't remember. I watched it a really long time ago.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I was like 17 or something. Okay. I don't remember. I'm really old now, guys. I don't know who I am. There's Block B we could go into. Where am I? Wait, where did you wanna see?
Starting point is 00:52:09 What were you gonna say? Exandria. The chaos. I think I'd like to see where the chained oblivion lives, his spoopy dimension. All the bad ones, all the scary ones. Scary ones. Creepy. And I'd like to see more.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I would like to somehow have us go back to the Folding Halls of Halas and continue to explore. There was so much more to explore, but it was also so dangerous to explore. That's my Roman Empire. I think about the Folding Halls of Halas a lot. This was a great idea. What all was there?
Starting point is 00:52:44 I know. And the shattered teeth, I feel like we haven't barely scratched with your sword. Well we have, we've only been to what, two islands? Yeah, and there's like 50 or 40 or something. Yeah, they're always shifting. I know. My Roman Empire is the Roman Empire.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I'm such a himbo, you guys. I think about the Roman Empire all, like I literally actually think about it a lot. How often? Like in a week? Like literally probably once a day. Really? But also I watch so many history docs.
Starting point is 00:53:10 You do, you watch a lot of documentaries. I do, I love history docs. Everybody has not seen Alexander the Great. It's a great doc. It's like a series where they have acting in it, which is kind of a little weird. But then they also have like the- Like Unsolved Mysteries?
Starting point is 00:53:26 Like Unsolved Mysteries? Unsolved Mysteries is the shit! And it's back, baby! Is it really? Yeah, they're doing new episodes on Netflix. JoJo. Are they gonna bring back Forensic Files? JoJo is the,
Starting point is 00:53:39 Yeah, yeah, it's a little too late. It's a little too late, it's a little too late. No, I don't know what I'm talking about. Little too late? No little too late, a little too late. I don't know what I'm talking about. A little too late? No. This episode is wild. And also, I really got my ADHD on display right now. Okay. ADHD.
Starting point is 00:53:58 It's time to slide into deep dive. Dani, wherever you are. Can we get those taggered questions? Can we get those? Oh questions? Come on, come on. Oh, my god. Tanks! Yeah, okay. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:54:11 So once she brings in the tankards, we're gonna go around the circle. No, take your time. You're coming. It's no rush. We're gonna go around the circle and take turns pulling some questions. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:54:21 If you haven't watched this show before, that's how it works. There's questions indeed. Tanks. Here you go. If you haven't watched this show before, that's how it works. There's questions indeed. Thanks. You make them. Um. Ashley, you're gonna go first. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:32 This is just the most beautiful. I love it. Getting so much use out of that crash pad. Okay. Ooh. Please give us an interesting and unknown fact about Oppie of the Menagerie. Oh, cute!
Starting point is 00:54:50 Okay, so, still sort of working with some stuff with Oppie. I have an idea that I still have to talk to Matt about. I kind of talked to you about it. You told me about it. Oh, you can't, no, you can't. I can't give it away. I can't say it just in case. But I do have an idea, but also maybe something that I can put out there.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I, the way I am hoping, like I feel like Oppie's staff, little cigarillo, little vape, I feel like I want to eventually find out who that belonged to and who just threw it away in the river because it is magical. Don't litter! Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Hey, quit it, litter bug. I feel like, I mean, it is magical. Yeah. What if it isn't? It had to have belonged to somebody. What if Oppie is just that magic and he just doesn't know it? Yeah. You know, it's one of those things.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Is it the staff or is it Oppie? Smoke? Yeah. That he just threw it off when he or she was finished with it? You know, I don't know. I feel like, trying to figure out the backstory with the cigarillo. That's not really interesting. I didn't trying to figure out the backstory with the cigarillo.
Starting point is 00:56:05 That's not really interesting. I didn't really didn't give anything interesting. We've only played these characters. I know. It might take a minute. Yeah, I think that's pretty good. There is some stuff I'm toying around with that I'm very excited about.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Yeah, Liam. Okay. Okay, what's this one? This one says, oh, please give us one interesting and unknown fact about Zarlo. Oh my goodness. I think Zarlo, we haven't had a chance to flesh this out yet, but I think that he
Starting point is 00:56:36 likes to place dogs with new owners. I think that he gets attached, acutely attached to dogs for a certain amount of time, but he can't keep all the dogs, so he helps place them with family. So I think by the time we get back to Zarlo, he might not have those dogs. He might have a different dog.
Starting point is 00:56:56 He fosters dogs out? He's a foster dad? I think he's kind of a den mother. I see Zarlo as probably cooking for this group and putting band-aids on their scuffed knees and making sure everyone's okay. That was also one of those things that I just tossed out and I was like, why do you still have those dogs?
Starting point is 00:57:14 And you just yes and-ed me like a pro and then the dogs were with us. It's in. That you just stole some dogs. Marisha, why did Lotnick choose to sacrifice the Will Master to Delilah? And why is she keeping this from Belle's house? Why haven't you told us? Good question. Why don't you know?
Starting point is 00:57:37 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Are you possessed in the moment by Delilah? Yeah, I think it's, I don't know! I don't know. You're possessed in the moment by Delilah? Yeah, I think it's, I think, because like, because Imogen was like, are you lying to me? And like, Laudna is full,
Starting point is 00:57:59 and then like Travis is also being like, why does bitch be lying? But I think Laudna in her head is like, she is not. She's trying, she being like, why does this bitch be lying? But I think Latina in her head is like, she is not. She's trying, she's like, she doesn't really know what's going on. She's not trying to hide it. Maybe she's a little in denial. Yeah. I might be all in denial.
Starting point is 00:58:18 So I think she's like, what? I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything. Because I think she's just not sure. But she does know that she's like, well, if Delilah, this bitch, has the opportunity to make me more powerful for the fight ahead, then I want to like, you know. And I guess I've been talking to Matt, and I was like, I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:58:41 And he was like, mm-mm-mm-mm. But he did say, he was like like I will say you're like close to the edge the edge of like like yeah oh my gosh so great me is Marisha I want to see what I worry about yeah I want to see what happens you need a more powerful you need a gem just like FCG. We got to know when you're going to go off. You're going to go full Ghostbusters on us before we leave the moon? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:08 No, no, no, no. No, not before we leave the moon. But you've gotten cool, powerful stuff. You've gotten cool power stuff. You've gotten cool, powerful stuff. And so a lot of it's kind of like, you got some cool, powerful stuff. Yeah, but like new stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:23 New boosts. New boosts that aren't like leveling up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like outside stuffs. Yeah, but like new stuff. New boosts, new boosts that aren't like leveling up. Like outside stuffs. I want stuff. Time to get some stuffs. We got stuffs. I barely have any stuffs. That's why I got a little stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Barely any stuffs. But I got some magics, because I have no magics. You don't think my brain isn't going into Caleb mode under the surface the entire time, going like, I used to be able to pull the sky down and fold reality on itself. Now I'm like,
Starting point is 00:59:52 Now I gotta stick it with the point and. What are you, we watched you do like 80 pack flips. I know, you can action surge. Yes. You just like, move, move, move. You do like 25 things a turn, it feels like. Move, move, move. How's he doing all this?
Starting point is 01:00:04 I'm gonna use my last dice. I'm enjoying it, but I miss the re, what's that? Nothing. I just miss the reality bending. I miss bending reality to my will. Yes. This is for both of us. Oh!
Starting point is 01:00:20 What has it been like for Fern and Imogen to experience being Ruidus born on- Ruidus itself? The flares. The flares. The flares have been pretty cool. Yeah, they're in sync. And also that ability that we're gonna lose as soon as we get off the moon where we can share sorcery points and spells. Oh, that's right. Have you guys used it? We haven't even used it yet. Yeah. We didn't? Didn't we do it one time? You better do it. Don't further it away.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I think you gave. No, we keep forgetting to use it. I think we keep forgetting to do it. I will try not to forget next time we play. I also just want to suck it out of somebody else. Oh, that's right, because you can do that, right? That's kind of cool. So you can like.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Maybe. Maybe we'll come down to it. The thought eaters or something? I mean, it's really. It's. It's. mean, it's really... Yeah, it's cool. I mean, I feel like we haven't fully seen... I just still have so many questions.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Yeah. You know, Matt has gotten really good at crafting names now so that we can't twist them, but Thott-eater really flew under his radar. I just got that. So it flew under my radar as well. And now it will never go away. Nope.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Yeah, but I don't think that the sharing of spells and stuff like that is for the Rylorans. I don't think you can do it with the Rylorans. I think it has to be like other, yeah. Okay. Because when we'll open up our minds, we don't connect to Rylorans. We only connect to people from Exandria.
Starting point is 01:01:59 What's that mean? What does that mean? So you're Ruidus-born, so you've got these powers. You're obviously a very focused dose of Ruidus stuff, whatever that is. So are you just sharing the same stuff that the Rylorans have? Or is it like, maybe, is it like part of Predathos?
Starting point is 01:02:20 Or does Predathos see a difference between Exandria and the Spinner? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Like, did Predathos send, is that how he's getting, like gods can send miracles basically or blessings through the divine gate still, right? Is that the way Predathos is getting himself or herself through is?
Starting point is 01:02:40 Well, Predathos is in a mini gate too, we've kind of hypothesized, right? Yeah, yeah. But the flares, is that the only way that he's, like, when he, like, sends energy out like that? Yeah. So it was part of his energy or soul, like, within the Ruidusborn? Gosh, yeah. Is that, like, the interchange of faith between God and faithful except close proximity?
Starting point is 01:03:03 Yeah. Also, now that, because you just said something, refresh me, did we get a little pronoun drop on Prodathos? Didn't someone say like, she? I feel like somebody said she. And we were all like, oh. Prodathos. Yeah, yeah, I think somebody did. What if Prodathos is like the mother of the gods?
Starting point is 01:03:27 I mean. Yeah? Mama bear? Mama bear. And the gods outgrew her and didn't want it anymore. Shamed her and outcast her and painted her to be awful and a god eater and a witch. That's what happens to parents. Don't say that.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I'm gonna go to the next question. Maybe she didn't eat them, maybe she reverse birthed them. Ew. Oh, I mean, she's a god, who knows? Isn't that in American Gods? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh really?
Starting point is 01:03:57 They can suck them back in? Did the biggest kegel you ever saw? It's a thing. Oh, it's a thing. Yeah, it's a thing. Yeah, I was gonna act it out, but why would I do that? It's a thing. Yeah. It's, yeah. I was going to act it out, but why would I do that? Get back in there.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Okay. Fern saw Sorrow Lord Zathuda, but didn't get a chance to talk to him. Does she wish she had? How does she feel about Ira saying that Zathuda was disappointed with her?
Starting point is 01:04:20 Okay. Me, Ashley, I wish I had a chance to talk to him just because I want to get to know more and see what that's about. I think as Fern and also being disguised, I had enough sort of... I think with Fern it was like, I know I need to shut the fuck up in this situation
Starting point is 01:04:45 or I'm gonna fuck everything up. So. What a growth for Fern. I know. So I was just like, I'm not gonna meddle. I'm just gonna, we're gonna go with this mission and I'm not gonna just be like, you know, throw a little chaos bit in the middle of it.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I was impressed during that whole demolition like I was a good girl You were you weren't like really you weren't pushing the buttons that I feel like you normally would know because I was just like I it's it's We need to not fuck this up and I think it's also There's so many other lives that were're almost responsible for right now. Yeah. So it's like this isn't a time for fun time fern. It's like, okay, we're getting down to business here because it's like this isn't just funsies. Like going around and meeting all the people in Ruidus and all the different towns.
Starting point is 01:05:45 It's like, oh, so many people are affected by what's happened and kind of what our lives are in Exandria and kind of how not great some of their lives are. That's such a huge thing for Fern. I mean, you know, we'll get there. I risk saying Zathuta was disappointed. I actually thought that was really funny. And I feel like, that's right, he was being a little bitchy. But I think that Fern understands that type of behavior
Starting point is 01:06:19 because they're both fey and they're both used to just that kind of like... jabbing and pushing buttons yeah so i i think yeah at least that's how i'm feeling about it right now yeah we'll see we'll see unless yeah i think it's just like a ha ha ha that's funny i love you i love that you didn't give him anything back on that i was just like whatever you're give him anything back on that. I was just like, whatever you're after is not happening right now. Yeah, I was just like, what are we supposed to do?
Starting point is 01:06:49 What's the mission here? Like, don't be all Faye with me. Take the stage for a second, I'm gonna get some water. Go get water. Enjoy. Clear your throat. Enjoy the dive. Oh no, oh no. Bye.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Bye. Save yourself. What if I ask, what if I just start answering Liam's questions? He was holding in a cough, his little eyes were watering. I know. Don't you hate that when you're like, I gotta take, I just start answering Liam's questions He was holding in a cough his little eyes were watering Don't you hate that when you're like I gotta take I'm gonna suck it in It's like if that door closes he's gonna be like
Starting point is 01:07:10 We'll hear it Poor Liam How does Laudna feel about Liliana Does she See any hope for her or does she want Imogen to let her go? I don't think it's that
Starting point is 01:07:29 Laudna wants Imogen to let her go. But I don't know. I mean, I kind of said it in the game. I think it's hard for Laudna because she's like, but bitch, you left. Right. Like, you left. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Like, you left and then you haven't really, I don't know, you could be even just like a little bit more clear with some of your answers. Like, you owe that to your daughter that you just kind of abandoned. But also, Marisha gets it and is like, you know, who knows what happened and she might be trying to make choices
Starting point is 01:08:10 to protect Imogen out of love and clearly there's still like love and concern there and is trying to like throw up these walls and these boundaries um you know I think there's so many instances of that in real life where parents have
Starting point is 01:08:27 to be the bad guy be the bad guy in order to protect their kids and to like keep them from getting involved in like shit that maybe like they got sucked into so i think like i get it but it is i mean it's it's a complicated relationship it is it is it would be so much easier if it was cut and dry and she was bad yeah you know i don't think she is but i don't think she is no i don't think she is no i hate like writing her off and being like well if we have to let her die then we gotta let her die no because in my heart i'm like in my heart, I'm like, in my brain, I still feel like we can save her. It still feels, I don't know, still feels like there's an opportunity
Starting point is 01:09:10 in like the thing that I do, I think I might have mentioned this, that I do actually, I'm like, there's some interesting points there with her being like, I need to be here because I am keeping Ludinus from flying off the handle even more than what he already is. And so you're like... But then it's like, those are excuses too.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Like how much more would you be able to stop him if you left and fought him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But maybe she sees how powerful he is from the inside and knows. It's just like us warning the Volition, right? You don't understand what you're up against you will be wiped out if you go try to go against liliana yeah they still went like she's warning us you don't know what you're up against he will wipe you out yeah and we're still fucking going going anyway yeah we're single-minded very fair right it could also be all the thousand little lies she tells herself to keep her world view in one piece totally But she's probably right. I mean it does feel like those people We've mentioned this in game. It does feel like those people who get like sucked into cults
Starting point is 01:10:13 Yeah and like at a certain hole is strong the pull is strong and you I think you often reach a point where you feel like You've you're past the point of return mm-hmm. So you're just like Yeah,, can't. I don't know how to get out. I'm in too deep. Yeah, do you damn, do you cast that light on all your past decisions and choices,
Starting point is 01:10:33 or do you go in all in with your chips and justify everything? Yeah. So that you don't look back where to go. What the fuck was it all? What was I doing? Yeah, wasted. It's like, what are you supposed to do
Starting point is 01:10:44 when everybody feels like they are all? What was I doing? Wasted. Yeah, wasted. It's like what are you supposed to do when everybody feels like they are right? What is? Yeah. That's something I wonder about with what releasing Predathos means. Like I've decided Orym's viewpoint is there's no way with,
Starting point is 01:10:57 their opening gambit was murdering people with no cause. So he's, that's his viewpoint on it. And he knows everything that happened with Vox Machina and the sort of uncontrollable destruction that comes with the kind of stuff that's going on. There's another layer going on. Laura, this isn't a question. Happy belated April Fool's Day.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Go pull another block from the Tower of Inquiry. And then I unfolded it. Hi, Laura, this is Kyle. Disregard the above, non-question. It was Max's idea and it was terrible. Wait, is there a third one? No, he just folded it up so that I would see it. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Disregard, disregard. The one that was more, yeah. Oh no, there is more? It's like a script. Oh my god, this is Max Shapiro again. Disregard the above order from Kyle. You must pull another block. Do not listen to Kyle.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Do not believe his lies. Hi, Laura. Kyle again. Disregard that order to disregard my order for you to disregard. Max Shapiro has been fired. April Fool's Day is a fake holiday. Apologies for the inconvenience. Please tear up this piece of paper
Starting point is 01:12:06 and continue on as if you never read any of it. Oops, sincerest apologies. I can't rip it. The show is full of you. April Fool's is a fake holiday is my favorite addendum. I like that Kyle's like, no, there's more, keep reading. What does Imogen think, think well of the volition and their desire well and their desire to assassinate liliana we kind of covered this does she regret not going with them
Starting point is 01:12:34 or is she glad she stayed away i'm still struggling i'm still struggling i feel like... I can't tell you how much I struggled in game to not send a message to Liliana while we were going after... Everona? Everora? Yeah, Everora! Yeah, I wanted to send her. So annoying. You're so annoying. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:13:11 I've never been accused of being annoying on this show. Yeah, that's right. I read your comments. Still here. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Still here! Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, I don't, I don't, fuck. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Like if I'd have gone, if I'd have sent her a warning, if I'd have gone, would I have saved everybody's life in that moment? If I had gone, would I have saved Gaz's life? I don't think you, if you went for that. And kept Liliana from exploding? If you would have gone, I still feel like you would have been at risk of pissing somebody off.
Starting point is 01:13:51 One side or the other. I think if... Oh, God. I think that's one of those situations that you would not know what you do until you were in it. In it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Like, if I'd have gone, would the whole group have come with me? Yes. You all would have come with me? I mean, well, I probably would. If you had gone on that mission? Like, would we have split the party? Would we still have split the party?
Starting point is 01:14:13 No, I mean, we were trying to, you know, get in good with a volition, so we really just needed to do right by one. I mean, Aurum would have followed you there. I think Aurum understands how delicate and important a piece to this whole puzzle is. And I think Aurum believes that mom still has love for her daughter there and that it could be reached,
Starting point is 01:14:41 but knows how thorny a path that is. Fuck. Yeah, and if we had gone to her, there's no way the Volition would trust us ever. Like, we would have lost that time. Oh yeah, that was an instant deal breaker. And we need the Volition. We need the Volition. Strixie.
Starting point is 01:14:57 But if I'd have gone, would we have been able to get Liliana on our side? I don't think so. I wonder what the plan was for Matt if you had have gone. I know, you had to have had it. Or what that part of the mission would have been like, if that would have changed a lot of things. I'm sure he, oh God, I wish I would know.
Starting point is 01:15:13 I know, I wish we could slide indoors and be like, well, what if we did that one? No. What would have happened? Well, you remember, we tried it in rehearsals. We decided that wasn't the best. So we did the rewrites. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Yeah, it just didn't like, Oh, God. Back to the writers. Now I'm so in my head about, I didn't even realize it was Roshina that, Me neither, actually. Yeah, might not be. We don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:34 God, but it probably was. That makes so much more sense. But Danny, didn't he say, didn't he say like purple hair floating around? Yeah, it's definitely Liliana in the sky. Liliana in the sky. Liliana in the sky. She exploded. But we don't know who screamed.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Yeah, Liliana killed a mess of people and supermanned into the air. And then Rashina went, how did she know we were coming? Or Liliana. Or Liliana. Or Liliana. And the psychic flare that we heard in both our heads. Yes. Like Matt said, that was Liliana.
Starting point is 01:16:03 The scream was Liliana. My hands are so cold. Yeah. Yes. Like Matt said that was Liliana. The scream was Liliana. Your hands are so cold. Yeah. Yeah. It could have been your mom saying, did my daughter know that people were coming to kill me? Yeah. So both are kind of. Easily could have been that. Yeah. I'm, I was presenting another theory. Fuck. Um. And Matt's a little stinker and didn't say who it was. Yeah, little stinker. But yeah, no, no, the scream that you heard was definitely Liliana. She's in the sky.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Yeah. And then you heard another voice. But you don't, it's not been clear yet which voice it was. If I had, because I asked Matt, do I see the music hall? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:40 When we were on our way. And he said no. If I had seen it. You might have gone. I might have split. I might have left our group. Oh, branching timelines. And it was destroyed, right?
Starting point is 01:16:55 It was so that it was gonna get in the orchestra. Yeah, it's busted out of the tub. Did, like, who all died? Did she just like blow up in like a flare of psychic energy like when we were- Like a little Akira nuke? Yeah, and all of the new recruits are also dead? Did she just everything? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Ah! Next question. You missed one. Oh. Oh, that's right. You did. Okay. Sometimes I pay attention. You be the host. Nah.
Starting point is 01:17:20 I never got it. Orim apologized to Imogen after she spoke to her mother. Where is Orim's head regarding the assassination attempt and Imogen's effort to reach out to Liliana? I think I just answered that question. I think that he thinks that there's like a 1 in 20 chance that Imogen can get through to her mom and knows how important it would be for her. But that's such a personal choice.
Starting point is 01:17:53 I don't know. I think he would, depends on what's going on around us, I think he would back that decision and go along. Might have to change plans in the moment as things go south. But he wants that for her because he had a real happy childhood and great parents and and wish wishes that his friend had that as well which like okay i want to talk about that for two seconds because most tabletop characters, at least that I make, parents are dead or they're an orphan.
Starting point is 01:18:30 I have a greater destiny, who am I? You know, what made you decide like, I'm gonna have a happy family, I'm gonna have a happy life? Well, he doesn't know his biological father, but he still had a very, very happy life. I wanted to do the opposite of things I'd done before we decided together that mom was gone and we all know what happened with Caleb's parents
Starting point is 01:18:56 they got a timeshare in Florida and are great for Caleb and for Orem there are things that I either wanted to explore or things that I needed in my life at the time. And Orem, both, like, I wanted aspects of him that I really loved and felt love for and felt really happy. And I wanted to think about a family that everyone loved each other. And then he's also like everything is so hard, but he doesn't ultimately lose his heart or his intention to do right and do good and is not letting the world scrape him down to nothing. And I'm doing that because I feel like I need that
Starting point is 01:19:45 to set that example for myself. Cause life is, cause 2024 is so fucking crazy. What do you mean? Yeah. Should I pick one? Yeah. We did, we do three rounds. We've done two rounds.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Okay, there's two questions. Let me see what we got since it's the last one. Make sure I didn't already answer it. Oh no, there's, have you answered two already? Yeah, I did. Okay. Okay, I'm gonna answer this one because I have questions about it.
Starting point is 01:20:17 What was it like for Fern to work with Ira? How does she feel about him, and why does she think he saved her with the Wall of Force? Mm-hmm. So, Dani and I were discussing this, How does she feel about him and why does she think he saved her with the wall of force? So, Dani and I were discussing this. Because part of me, it's like, oh, he saved her. But the other part is like, we're serving her up on a platter.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Yeah, dude. Nothing happened, but it was very questionable, which everything Ivar does is. I think he was saving her. I don't know. I think Ivar saved her. I think he's very interested in you, and I don't think it's, he doesn't like the Sorrow Lord,
Starting point is 01:20:54 why would he give you to him? Oh, that's a good point. Unless he's in with the Sorrow Lord. But why did he save her? Because he loves Nanamori. He wants, yeah, I think it's... He doesn't want Nanamori on his bad side, maybe? He doesn't want Nanamori on his bad side.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Because if Nanamori's on your bad side, you're fucked. Or is it because you're super cool, but you don't know it yet? He might just genuinely like you. That's probably why. Yeah, he might just genuinely like you. See, with the talk that I had with him, with like the disappointed stuff and like that kind of stuff,
Starting point is 01:21:28 I take that as a weird way of like, I like you. Yeah. Because we can both like poke at each other. He was negging you. Yes, exactly. It was full negging. Yes, full negging. He wanted you to be like, well, no, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:21:46 Yeah, I was like, don't be a bitch. Let's just talk this out. Interesting, let's think about that. He doesn't like to start a word. Say again? Your hair is very fey. It's a little out of control. You've got like, Artagan.
Starting point is 01:22:03 I know, there's bangs. The bangs are, I cut the bangs and they're like. Did you cut them yourself? Good job. Well, Bethany cut it and then I was like. And then I'm gonna keep going. And then you're like, uh oh. Uh oh.
Starting point is 01:22:23 It's getting worse. But it's just when they get to that, and I feel like I'm just gonna fly away. Or it's like the nun cap, the Sally Field. Wait, we went around three times? No, that was the start of three. Oh, because I started. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I made you start.
Starting point is 01:22:43 What's this one say? This one says, Wise Oram pushed Imogen forward as the leader of Bell's Hells? Why did Oram choose Imogen? Because you knew I had good stats for negotiating. No, because I... You have the highest... That's not why. Hugo.
Starting point is 01:23:01 That's not why. Why? Well, partially because I know that you are very clever, but also he does look at you as the leader. Yeah, you kind of are, though. He does. You are really good in those situations. So much of all this, the rudeness in what we're doing, I feel like you're so centered at it, too.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Yeah. Orm can step up as needed, but I think that it only comes in bursts and i and he sees you as while you're troubled you're intelligent and uh are able to read people really well and so not according to those roles yeah i'm not talking about the dice and the stats i'm talking about the role play uh so why not why why shouldn't the little guy push her forward? Why shouldn't she be the leader? Orm is the only other real potential candidate.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Maybe Chet, but Chet's a wild card. Yeah, Chet's a wild card. If he wasn't so unpredictable, he'd be great. Fern, also unpredictable. Ashton, unpredictable. Well, also Ashton is real bad at talking to people. He's terrible at talking. And they step up all the time to talk to people.
Starting point is 01:24:12 I know. Like, roll really bad. Yeah. Which is great on Taliesin's part. I love that aspect of like really wanting to be the speaker. Yeah. Thinking that you're gonna figure out a way to do it. And just like every time, just not working.
Starting point is 01:24:26 He knows what his stats are. Yeah, oh yeah, he knows it's like a negative two when he rolls for it. It's funny for the character, yeah. Yeah. Just because you're bad at talking doesn't mean, I feel like that's like a weird like, tabletop RPG like, misnomer of like,
Starting point is 01:24:41 if your stats are bad, then why try it? And it's like, you're the best at this, so you do that. No. You don't know your stats are bad. Yeah. That's boring. That's boring. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:50 I think just you in general, you're so good at negotiations. Like, getting into those situations and all the campaigns and being like, I know how to talk to the person in charge. Vex remains. Vex remains. Vex remains. Haggle, bitch. Haggle, bitch, haggle. Not role-playing.
Starting point is 01:25:11 No. That's why Matt always looks at me when I try to get things done. He's like, no. Falling for it. This is also the woman in your Signal Boost episode way back when, where you were like, here's how you haggle at thrift stores.
Starting point is 01:25:26 It's a flea market. It's a flea market. That's right! It is a flea market culture thing, so. Yeah, yeah. They're very good tips. She is really good at it. Like going to flea markets with you, I always get so,
Starting point is 01:25:36 I feel like we've talked about this before, but I always get so nervous, I'm like, take my money, whatever you want, I will give you the money as it says, because I feel terrible, and I'll maybe give give you more because I'm a people pleaser. And you'll be like, mm-mm. No. This is all I have.
Starting point is 01:25:50 This is what I have. I would never go like, this isn't worth this. Ever. No, you don't do that. Ever, ever. You don't insult. No, it's just I really like this, but all I have is this much. They want to make a deal too.
Starting point is 01:26:01 They want to sell it. You want to get out. You want to get their shit out there. I hate it. Don't come for me, people that sell at flea markets. I'm sorry. to sell shit. You want to get out. You want to get their shit out there. I hate it. Don't come for me, people that sell at flea markets. I'm sorry. No, no.
Starting point is 01:26:08 You're really nice about it. You're not like an asshole about it. Everybody makes a deal. Yeah. Like you said, flea market culture. I just get mad. Yeah. Laura and Marisha.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Oh. Oh? How are Imogen and Laudna feeling after their discussion about their relationship? It's complicated. I love it. Yeah, are you lying? I love it too. Yeah, the are you lying, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Are you lying to me? Woo, that was stressful. Yeah. Like I was- I didn't know, I thought like, I didn't know where it was going to go. I thought maybe you were going to be like, let's just not right now. Let's just call it quitskies.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Because, like, it could have gone both ways in that conversation. I still feel like it's, like, tenuous. Yeah, but we also haven't had any chance to talk. And also, Wadna has this dumbass idea That she's holding Imogen back. Yeah, which is so stupid. Yeah. Hey, how many great relationships have ended in insecurities and other persons feeling like they're a burden Like a lot not like definitely struggles with feeling like a burden just in general and like a literal I may have said this before too,
Starting point is 01:27:26 like send this to you. Like I'm a literal dead end, you know? So it's like hard. And a certain point you're either going to like get past that or you're not. Right. Will she grow? Will you believe in yourself?
Starting point is 01:27:39 I know. Yeah. She's starting to believe. I don't know. I, I don't, I don't think Imogen sees it that way. Yeah. Yeah. Clearly.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Which is great. It was very, I was like, she loves me. She really does love me. Boom. It was very sweet, but yeah. I was like, I don't know. It's good, it's good.
Starting point is 01:28:01 It's juicy character shit. Yeah. Thanks to Delilah. Oh my god! Don't mind me. Delilah's stuff is gonna have to come to a head. It 100% will. Yeah, and I don't know what it's gonna turn into.
Starting point is 01:28:15 I know. I know. We keep saying like, Villanork, you know? Yeah. And I mean, I don't know which one of us is gonna be the first one to give in. Is gonna go first, yeah. Can we un-undead you somehow i know that's what i keep thinking i'm like there's got to be a way what if like i don't think it's a dead end yeah if we don't how
Starting point is 01:28:35 long do you go on forever is this your third character who goes on forever i kind of think so well wait i think it, I think it has, I think they have a similar timeless body situation. Wait, does Beau live forever? Yeah, Beau is a- Well, for a long, long, long, long time. But she keeps it tight. Yeah, Beau has,
Starting point is 01:28:58 it's like, it's not an age thing. Yeah, she just looks hot for years. She just looks hot for years. She still has, like, human years, but she basically stops, like, aging. Lucky bitch. I know. I know. But she still...
Starting point is 01:29:14 Monks. She still might die when she's, like, 90, but she's just going to look really hot. Are you going to cast a spell? No, I'm going to Gattaca it. Remember in Gattaca? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gattaca, remember? Have you ever seen the Gattaca? It's so good. Gattaca? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've never seen the movie Gattaca? It's so good. I have not seen Gattaca.
Starting point is 01:29:27 I'm gonna eat it. Liam, you gotta wham. I haven't watched the movie. No, no, no, no. Hey! Delilah. Huh. Just a moish, oh hell.
Starting point is 01:29:35 But also if we kill Delilah, like Laudna's, unless we find a way to break that connection in a way that is outside of... Yes. If you killed Delilah, then you killed Laudna. Yeah. I'm pretty certain. But the only reason that y'all know,
Starting point is 01:29:55 that y'all believe that if you kill Delilah, you kill Laudna is from whom, Delilah? That's true. Maybe she's lying. She's lying! It might, yeah, she could be lying. You had power before Delilah. She acts like all your power comes from her.
Starting point is 01:30:11 No. Do you know? I don't. You don't, okay. I genuinely don't, I have no idea. Oh my gosh. Do you know, buddy? Look at this, there's more questions.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Are you a Korg-lock? Are we going home here? You're multi-classing Korg-lock? Are we going home yet? You're multi-classing Korg-lock? What was going through Imogen's mind as she attempted to reach her mother in the dream? How does she feel knowing her mother survived the assassination? I kind of talked about this a little bit too. Draw another one.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Yeah. I have one left. Please, aww, please give us an interesting and unknown fact about Sweet Pea. Yeah. Sweet Pea. Sweet Pea. Hold on, let me think.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Okay, you guys, I feel like Travis has been trying on my glasses at home because these used to fit me. And now they are so wide that if I lean forward, I mean, I feel like mine do that too, actually, over time. They're so loose. Well, these are fairly new, but, I mean. It's annoying. I'm waiting for your phone. I need one of those old lady things where it, like, holds you. but I mean. It's annoying. I'm waiting for your phone. I need one of those old lady things where it like-
Starting point is 01:31:27 The old chains. Those are cute. Those are cute. You should bring those back. Um. A little fact about Sweepy. I don't know what we've said in game. I can't remember. What's her dark secret?
Starting point is 01:31:39 Her dark secret. She's actually 50 years old. That true? No, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, for a foam roll, that could be nothing. Oh, no, I can't say that, because I have something,
Starting point is 01:32:00 but I don't want to give it away already. I know, it's hard because they're still pretty new. It's one game. One game, so it's like, I don't want to give anything away already. I know it's hard because they're still pretty new. It's one game. One game so it's like, you know, I don't want to give anything away. Any like design inspo? Ooh, yeah. I was inspired by,
Starting point is 01:32:15 I wish I knew what the style of clothing was called. It's like that, the really like loose fitting, adorable clothes like that you see a lot in like, in Japan. Japan, yeah. Yes. You know, where everything's like really flowy and I always dream of dressing like that anyway all the time. You should.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I know, I just wanna. Why not? You would rock that. You would rock that. But didn't you do, there was something you did kind of similar for Jester for a live show, right? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:32:43 The kind of, I'm kind of like, I just love that style. So I keep going back to it. But my like original, original inspiration for Jester was also that it just didn't end up there. But originally, do you guys remember that picture that I sent to you of like that sheep herder? Yes. He was walking and he was like in these
Starting point is 01:33:01 like really flowy clothes. Yes. Yeah. You were like, this is an inspo for a vibe. That's what I'm thinking. And she ended up nothing like that. But yeah, so that's kind of what I was thinking. Character creation, guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:14 I love the little eyelet with the ribbon through the eyelet. Yeah. It started out, I think what I described in session zero was just flowy, pretty high waist sort of thing. But then as soon as I started looking at clothes, I was like, ooh, I like this kind of dark academia thing as well, so I gave her an oversized cardigan and I wish I would've given her glasses!
Starting point is 01:33:39 I just, like, big glasses! Maybe she can get some in the, yeah. If I went back now, I would give her glasses, too. Aw. We could add that. Yeah, why not? What did you guys have for inspo? For menagerie?
Starting point is 01:33:55 For menagerie? I mean, I... Like, did you think about it pre-session zero? Or were you like, let's just see what happens at the table? So I had spun up kind of like a different, not the same version of Bunny for another just like behind closed doors play test that we did. We were in the same play test, so we did earlier versions of our two characters.
Starting point is 01:34:16 And I was like, that's cool, I might do a spin on this, because it was like a bard character, and I had wanted to do, I've had this idea for like a bard a dancer bard for like a decade for forever back when we were still playing Pathfinder oh yeah and I've always wanted to do it and it just never like made sense so it was like okay cool and Daggerheart has like the flexibility to make it feel more what I wanted it to be. So I was like, cool, I wanna do that, because that has been rattling around in the back of my brain
Starting point is 01:34:54 but then design-wise, of course, a lot of the classic burlesque dancers, but then I pulled a ton of images from Sin City. Oh, yes! Very much. I sent over Sean Ellis who did our art for that, like three stills from Sin City. Cause like, remember Jessica Alba in that movie?
Starting point is 01:35:19 She's so fucking hot! Oh my god. Yes, I do remember. She had a little bit more of the cowgirl thing going on. She had like the fringe. She has like a strip dance routine when they walk my god. Ugh. Yes, I do remember. Get a little bit more of the cowgirl thing going on. Yeah, she had the cowgirl thing going on. She had like the, in like the fringe. It was like a strip dance routine when they walk in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:28 She's got the rope. That movie. That movie. So good. It's good. So yeah. That was a lovely one. I did an Irish accent.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Which I love. I've been begging you for so long to do an Irish accent. I wanted to do something that was just a lot more relaxed and happy-go-lucky, and I've been wanting to do a stint with Irish, and I thought it was my time to play the healer. I know it's our own new game system, but I've always had
Starting point is 01:35:54 it in my mind that I would play a rogue and a wizard and a fighter and a healer. Now it's time for the healer. And I just like this feckin' accent. It's so great. Such a good feckin' accent. You and Moira are both really good at Irish. No, I'm really not. Youin' accent, so. It's so great. Such a good feckin' accent. You and Laura are both really good at Irish. So good. No, I'm really not.
Starting point is 01:36:08 You are. Yes, you are. You are. What I think is that you, maybe you weren't a few years ago, but in the past it has gelled real well. Really? Yeah. Well, if we come back to Darrington Brigade. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:20 We'll be able to talk. Farrowing. Farrowing breeze. Farrowing breeze. And also, when you say you're not good at it, that is still like two miles above where most people are going to do accents, so. Yeah. Ashley's able to talk. Farrow and Breeze. Farrow and Breeze. Also, when you say you're not good at it, that is still like two miles above where most people are gonna do accents,
Starting point is 01:36:29 so you're your own worst critic. Farrow and also kinda had that flowy vibes, but once again, you ended up walking it back a little bit, I feel like. I know. It's cool. I need to stop walking it back. Cause I just wanna go. This is it, this is it.
Starting point is 01:36:43 This is the moment. Daggerheart is a moment to just follow our hearts. Our dagger hearts? Oh. Send us on. It's time for another pull from the Tower of Inquiry. You don't get to get away because you have Omar in your lap.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Give him to me. Give him to me. Okay. I'll go aside and you can pull. Give me this cake. I feel guilty. I feel so guilty. That's a good slice of cake.
Starting point is 01:37:06 He's fine. Always. Okay, okay. Woody. Oh, yeah. You've got so many hairs on you. They're not even Omar hairs. They're...
Starting point is 01:37:16 What are they then? They're Marisha hairs. Who knows? Marisha. I had other clothes to look nice, so then I was like, Ah. No. Ah. I went to Kyle and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:37:26 should I change back into my nice clothes? And he was like, why would you do that? I was like, yeah, that's fair. Oh, that's a baby boy. This one got so sticky. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Wow, that block felt like it just kept going. 28.
Starting point is 01:37:44 28, let's see here. What does this say? Is there anyone, oh, this is from Vleramuis. Is there anyone in PC or creature that you encounter during the game that you wish you'd had a chance to talk to instead of fight? Oh.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Oh. Who did we? Guess I'm curious. I mean, I don't know about fighting, but I wish we could have spent more time with Ropey. Like, I feel like he needs to be around all the time. Yeah. My boy.
Starting point is 01:38:29 My boy. My boy. I mean, your dad. Your dad. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be nice not to fight with him and just have a chat. Yeah, to really see what his personality is like, because...
Starting point is 01:38:42 Yeah, like, what if we're like super... What if you get along so well I'm like shit he's really cool Yeah, it's hard to talk Complicated parental figure or animated rope. Yeah, I'm gonna pull one. Pull one. Because I like pulling them. Oh, darn. I love you. Okay. You're so good at Jenga. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:10 What if this is my moment? I don't think it is. It is already leaning a little bit, too. She picks ones that are crazy. 32. Okey dokey, 32. A classic, love this question. From Sanzel, from Sazzle, excuse me, Sazz, from Sazzle. What cantrip would you most like to have IRL?
Starting point is 01:39:34 Classic question. There's so many. Wow. Is invisibility a cantrip? No. I know that. I was just checking to see if you guys did. Mending is great.
Starting point is 01:39:44 Ooh. Mending is great. Ooh. Mending is tough to beat. Mage hand so I could get the remote when a dog comes. Oh, mage hand. When you're already in bed and you're like, I didn't turn off the stupid light. Fuck! That or prostitutiation.
Starting point is 01:39:59 To just clean shit up? To just, yeah. It cleans like five square feet. You can just clean shit up or light a candle. Is it five five square feet. You can just clean shit up or light a candle. Is it five square feet or one square feet? Might be just one square foot, but regardless you can just. It's a cantrip, you can do it endlessly.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Yeah. I wonder if Mage Hand would be better though. Prestidigitation. That is so all purpose. There's so much you can do with it, so much. That's true, there's so much. Mage Hand! Gross! You guys have made that joke already.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Yeah. Yeah, man, I feel like... I feel like Mage Hand. Are you looking at the cantrip? Yeah, I am. Yeah, because what are you going to pick? Create water? I mean, that's really nice.
Starting point is 01:40:38 I mean, create water would be cool. That would be great. That would be handy one day. I mean, one day when- It would be really useful for other people. When we're in the water wars, yeah. Great, water would be great. Druidcraft, I like. Now that I know that I can just make endless strawberries.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Yeah, that's cool. Hang on, cantrips. You can make food. Mm-hmm. Maybe that's better than being able to give a reach around. You know? What do you want next, little baby? I mean, it's hard.
Starting point is 01:41:01 It's hard to pick. She just laughs at him. It's hard to pick a reach around. Ashley. Yeah, I think, it's hard. It's hard to pick. She just laughs at him. It's hard to pick and reach around. Ashley. Yeah, I think, oh. Yeah, reach, what? I've answered it, but I can. I haven't lived in a room with five people with a mage hand.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Who is that? Hello. Hello. Hello. Ah. Ooh, it is leaning. Yeah. Pick a good one.
Starting point is 01:41:24 Pick a questionable one, Ashley. Only one hand. Oh. This was bad. You have to- It's a bad one. I know I already touched it, so I'm gonna take it, but. I love this game. Oh, you pulled from the same side as me?
Starting point is 01:41:44 Yeah. Oh, wow. Front row. Oh, wow. Woo the same side as me? Yeah. Oh, wow. Front row. Oh, wow. Woo! Hello, Jiggy there at the end. Scary. 37.
Starting point is 01:41:52 37. What happened? Please don't fall. Please don't fall. Please don't fall. Please don't fall. It's stable. I don't want consequences in my life anymore.
Starting point is 01:42:03 Girl mood. Yes. From Ashley Edwards Comedy on Instagram, do you feel the characters you personally have played would make it out of an escape room together? I.e. for Ashley it would be Fern, Yasha, and Pike. Would they work as a team? Oh, like all of your characters together.
Starting point is 01:42:24 I think it's funny, I think this question is hilarious. I love this. Yes, like all of your characters together. I think it's funny. I think this question is hilarious. I love this. Yes, it's a great question. Interesting. Man, I would say yes if it was just Imogen and Vex, but Jester would fuck everything up.
Starting point is 01:42:34 Yeah, she would. Yeah, she would. I think you have the best trio. Yeah. Keen mind, Orm's perception, Vex's ability to manipulate any kind of... You were good.
Starting point is 01:42:44 Yeah, you would definitely win. I think with Beau, Keyleth, and Laudna, Beau would be one of those people you hate going to escape rooms with because she'd just be like, move, I got it. Yes. Just don't touch anything. It would just single-handedly solve everything and I don't think Keyleth or Laudna have like
Starting point is 01:43:10 the confidence or the gumption to like fight it. So they'd just be like, okay. But then they'd still get out cause Beau is, because Beau would figure it out. Beau would get them out. Yeah. It would just be a bad time. Laudna would just be bringing puzzle pieces to life.
Starting point is 01:43:21 Yeah. Just in the corner. Yeah, that's true. Which is this? I feel like Fern, Yasha, and Pike would not get past the first room. No. No, y'all would fuck it up just as much as Jester would.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Yes. Fern would be. Would be stealing the pieces to solve the problem. Yasha wouldn't understand why they're having to, what the whole idea of it is. Sorry, weird. It's not good through this door. But why are we trying to escape? Why are we willingly walking in here
Starting point is 01:43:47 and then we have to get closed in and then we have to escape? I don't understand. Can I just break the door open? That's not how it works. That's not how it works. I feel like Pike would just get irritated with the two of them.
Starting point is 01:43:56 And Fern would just be like not paying attention. Yeah. It would be a disaster. Absolutely. That are not supposed to be moved. Yes. She would be taking the clues. It would be a disaster, absolutely. Like not supposed to be moved. Yes. She would be taking the clues. You would be resealing the puzzles
Starting point is 01:44:08 that the other two unsealed behind their backs. Yes, just somehow trying to make vintage pearls. Put the prop down, Fearne. Wrong knife. Wrong knife. Thank you. Vieramul, vieramuls, did I say that right? Sure!
Starting point is 01:44:29 Vieramuls, Sazzle, and Ashley Edwards. And if you have an Evergreen fan question for our Tower of Inquiry, you can enter it at critrolls.com slash tower, critroll.com slash tower. And that just about does it for this portion of Foresighted Dive. Oh, that means we're done. For our podcast listeners or those watching this as a VOD, we bid you adieu.
Starting point is 01:44:52 But before you go, we got some announcements. In case you didn't notice, we're trying something new with the C-Block. From now on, we'll be streaming with the C block intact as usual. But the following day, it'll get clipped out of the VOD and uploaded as its own video. And we're calling that more sighted dive. More sighted dive. And this month, we'll all be competing in the party game gauntlet sponsored by Ravensburger. Where we'll be playing That's Not a Hat, Strike, and Pinata Blast.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Stick around for more Sighted Dive. It's the best QVC. Bye. Bye. Bye. That's it for the podcast version of this episode of Foresighted Dive. In the video version, we wrap up each episode by playing some games, which don't always translate well to an audio-only format.
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