Culture & Christianity: The Allen Jackson Podcast - Here’s How We Make Christian Content Mainstream [Featuring Davy Liu]

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

What happens when someone at the top of the entertainment world walks away from it all—not for fame, fortune, or failure, but for faith? Pastor Allen sat down with Davy Liu, a former Disney animator who is now the founder of Kendu Films. Hear firsthand about Disney's dark agenda, how God turned Liu's passion into a purpose, and why he chose to transition from working on The Lion King and Mulan to creating Christ-centered content for children.More Information:Kendu Kids: https://www.kendukids.org/__ It’s up to us to bring God’s truth back into our culture. It may feel like an impossible assignment, but there’s much we can do. Join Pastor Allen Jackson as he discusses today’s issues from a biblical perspective. Find thought-provoking insight from Pastor Allen and his guests, equipping you to lead with your faith in your home, your school, your community, and wherever God takes you. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3JsyO6ysUVGOIV70xAjtcm?si=6805fe488cf64a6d Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/culture-christianity-the-allen-jackson-podcast/id1729435597

When I write my script, we begin with prayer. Holy Spirit, what do you want to write on the wall of man's heart? For these children, today, they are taunting by the world's all this twisted agenda. Man, we got to bring holiness. If the world is marketing darkness with that beautiful art, we need beautiful art to market this beautiful word of God, the holiness of God. Welcome to culture and Christianity. Our guest today is amazing. Davey Lou, he's an animator, was an animator, was an animator,

Disney on a number of projects, probably the one you'd know the most, is the Lion King. In two years, Disney taught the whole world to sing a set of songs. They evangelized the kids of our world in two years. Surely the church could think about that and change our timeline a bit. He has a vision for impacting a generation with creativity and excellence. I'm fascinated by anybody that wants to give their very best to God, not bring our leftovers, not bring our leftover clothes and our leftover appliances and our leftover furniture, but bring the very best we have to God.

He meant so much to this guy. He quit his job, sold his house, and went all in on making content for kids, and is now helping us tell the Jesus story to kids. And the Chinese acknowledged that he had the best kids' book in China last year. He's already bought land next to Disneyland in China for his vision of a kids park. I'm telling you, I like people with a big vision, and he's done it not because life was easy. His father was a refugee from the Chinese communist fled to Taiwan, was at the point of death.

I mean, it's an amazing story of the faithfulness of our God. Folks, all of our lives have problems and setbacks and difficulties, but God is looking for people who will yield their lives to him, and he will take the mess and make something remarkable. Davey Liu is going to give all of us some hope today. Culture and Christianity is not an option. It's our assignment. and I have met somebody that's doing very well, and I think you're going to enjoy their story. Welcome to culture and Christianity.

Our goal, as you know, is to take our faith outside the walls of the church and to impact our culture with it. Our faith is more than a sermon or a song service. It's a living reality. And I'm excited to introduce our guest to you today. Davey Lou was a Disney animator for the Lion King. So if you're going to be an animator in our world, and you're going to start, you might as well go with Disney and do the Lion King and touch the whole world. Yeah, he's going to talk about that.

He did a whole host of projects and decided that Disney was not the best environment for somebody with a biblical worldview. Yeah. So now he's working for the kingdom. Davey welcome. Thank you very much, Pastor. I got to jump. We got to start with Lion King.

How'd you end up working on a project like that? So I was a struggling artist in school. I wasn't the best at it, but Disney came to our school. So I worked so hard. They said they were looking for eight kids out of the whole war. I said, I got to work even harder. So I failed three times. On my fourth years in school, I finally got in as one of their interns.

So I started in Beauty and Beast, Aladdin, and Lion King was my third film. Well, you told me how the impact the Lion King had in our world. Yes. What year it was released? Yeah, so it came out in 94. So the producer, executive producer, Don Hahn, has used the biblical gospel, Moses, to influence the story and the script. And so two years later, they did a study, 96, they did a study that every kid's all tribe and tongue can sing.

Ah, Sirenya, Hakuna Matata. It's like, wow, Disney took two years, one animated film to evangelize their message. And I thought, what if we have the same thing for Jesus Christ with a beautiful animated film that can present the gospel in allegories? Absolutely. Well, we'll talk before we're done a little bit about what you're doing. doing to accomplish that. But this notion that in spite of the great work Disney was doing, they had a worldview that's pushing them further and further away from godliness. And if they can impact our kids by teaching them songs, they can impact our kids by teaching them ungodliness.

Absolutely. So when I started at Disney in 1990, in the internship program, Disney says, we're not here to teach you how to draw. We are the massive marketing company that we don't sell product. We only sell stories. And our stories has, our, stories are very expensive to make. It takes 60, 70, 100 millions to make our stories. And it's called animated film. And our objective is to get kids before they turn 10s. If you can get kids before they turn 10, they'll remember the songs, they'll remember the buy the products, and they'll tell their children of children. Wow. And it reminds me of that verse that Jesus says, let the children come to me. Because kids are vulnerable. They're 10, before they're 10,

they're like a sponge, right? So that's when I thought, wow, man, the kids need to be young when they're early that they can engage the biblical gospel. So surely the church can be as effective as Disney. Absolutely. For sure. We have the help of the king and the Holy Spirit. Absolutely. If the Lion King is being impactful, how much more so a king of king, pastor? Yeah. You've done some incredible work. I've got a book here that's fascinating to me. It's called The Giant Leaf. Take a Giant Leaf of Faith. And it is a first-class product. This looks like something Disney would produce. Yeah. So when I make that book, I want to be just beautiful. If you look at it, for whatever reason, there's just a beautiful book. But lo and behold, so I wrote that stories after the Lion King for Disney. Except when I pitch it on the Disney's top floor to the executive, they want two gay turtle going into the arc. I said, no can do. Those are the battle that I had working for Disney. I knew that these woke agenda began in the mid-90s. And then when I saw that they were invested millions of millions of millions.

of the money to develop a boy, want to be a girl in 1998 when I was working in Atlantis. That's when I knew. There's a difference of dream job of a blessing from God and a nice 401K and also a success in the worldview of winning an Oscar. That was my Christian view of like, okay, you know, as a Christian before I die, I'm going to have an Academy Awards on my tombstone, right? But lo and behold, God says, you know, if I save you from burning hells, and if your life is just reflecting of one man's appraisal of statues, you know, I'd rather have you bring one child to heaven than a billion on Oscar. You know, when you say it out loud, I understand the words, but it's stunning to me to think about a company that has the kind of impact that Disney does that has a corporate objective to sexualize our kids.

beyond the influence of their parents. I mean, that's an unsettling notion to be pushing. If Christians were doing that in some sort of a secretive way, they would call us all sorts of terrible names. Yeah. So where I work in this building in Burbank on the top floor, there's about 50, 60 of us, and we all come up with the greatest idea of how to make billions for the millennium to come. Now, these 50, 60 of them, I would say about at that time in mid-90s, I would say about 30% of them, they all had an alphabet lifestyle. So as you can see, right now, I heard this even higher now. It's almost like this is part of their criteria for you to have that kind of lifestyle to live up there.

And for some reason, I don't know what it is. The creative people always shift toward that kind of mentality. So I recognize that battle. It's their lifestyle. And they think that's a normal family lifestyle. And again, they sincerely think that this is their mission. Right. And I get it, and I get it.

Well, you know, it isn't helpful to me to spend our time raging against the darkness. I like to turn up the light. Yes. And I think you're doing that in such a beautiful way because you've launched this whole new project now with Ken Do Kids. Yeah. Which we're going to out Disney Disney. Yes, that's right. Don't complain how big Goliath is, right?

Let's look at how large, how awesome is our mighty God for children's. And I think to get to that story, it's helpful to get a little bit more, to get to the Ken Doe Kid's story. I think to get a bit of your story. Thank you. Your families. Yeah, I grew up in Taiwan, as you can see, I wear this cowboy hat because God told me, don't be a cow, be a cowboy. Don't follow the world, but lead the world.

So I grew up in Taiwan. I've, you know, I'm the youngest of the seven. I have five siblings, five sister, one brother. They all have straight A's. Like, you're born Chinese, naturally straight A. I'm not me, man. I was born dead before I came out of my wound. I was 10 days dead in my mother's wound, and my dad prayed me back to life.

So I came out, my dad always tells me you're a miracle baby. My dad decided to keep me because they injected needles into my brain for that 10 days. And then my dad knew that I was going to struggle here. He just didn't know that I was going to struggle that much. So I had a straight F grown up in an academic world. And then I came to America in 1982. And then our teacher gave me a sheet of white paper and I drew something and it won top 20. And that's when I realized that, hey, maybe God didn't give me a gift to make straight A,

but gave me a gift to draw straight lines. And then I pursued art with all I knew how. And so I went to art school and then God opened up this amazing door to me to start in this film industry with Walt Disney. So God brought momentum to your life through Disney. Yes, that's right. I so appreciate them. They gave me this opportunity for me to shine. So they were a great company to work for.

And I think that's important because Christians sometimes we get so dug in. Yeah, yeah. Or we're so occupied with what we're against. Yeah. God can take the most broken places and use them to bring momentum to our lives. Yeah, yeah. I look at Daniel and look at Joseph, right? I mean, they don't live in their homeland, but God has often used as formed places to build us.

And I never thought about dreaming, work for Disney, but I was like, this is too good to be true, you know? So your dad always told you you could do all things through Christ. Yeah, so when I feel discouraged, when I get straight F, my dad always tells me, you can do all things through Christ. I said, yeah, right, easy for you to say it, you know, because my dad was a very, very successful businessman. But before he was, in 1951, he'd treat from China. He has no friend, family. He was a soldier. He had a TB.

And the doctor says, you have four months to live. And doing that four months to live while he's waiting to die, a missionary from America gave him a Bible. And then this Bible has changed a trajectory of his life. And God, he was TB. And I just celebrate his 100th birthday last year. That's unbelievable to me. Your dad's fleeing Chinese communist to Taiwan. Yeah.

Has a deadly disease that there's no medical cure for. That's right. An American missionary just randomly gives him a Bible. Yes. He reads the gospel of John. He has a revelation of Jesus. Disney couldn't make that up. No way.

And then he founded a bread company? Yeah. So he has a very famous bakery store on the bread company's apple bread. Super famous. If you from Taiwan, everybody ate our bread, it's kind of like really well-known. And then in our story, still today, you will see in that city, and the story's slogan is Jesus is the bread of life. So I grew up with that slogan. I wasn't sure if my dad was selling Jesus for selling bread. I think I know the answer to that. Yeah. So tell us a little bit about Can Do Kids and what your vision is for that.

Yeah, so after when just leaving Disney, I had an opportunity to work for George on Star Wars episode one. And doing that two years, the Holy Spirit is kind of put that in my heart. It's like, when are you going to give it everything you got, right? So, George Lucas, right? Yeah, George Lucas, yeah. We don't all call him George. Oh, we don't call him George? Okay.

Some of us, he's like. He's far away. Yeah. Okay. In a galaxy long ago and far far away. So doing that two years, that's when I have the revelations that, you know, You can't just complain how big this giant is, right? I can run away from my job, but what about, what about my talent and gift?

Can I, can I use it? Can God use me one person to make a difference in my culture, that I knew this freight trend of darkness is coming to our world? Could I potentially provide what I did in Lion King, except for the King of Kings? Could I take the Bible and make it to a mainstream? I see these poor kids on Sundays, and they're just watching cucumbers. and tomatoes all day long. And I'd say, there's got to be something bigger and better.

It can't just be church. It has to be mainstream. It has to be excellent. It has to be like Michelangelo. It has to be so beautiful like Bach. It has to be excellent. And that's who God is. And that's when I left my full-time gig.

I said, God, I'm going to give it all I have. And I was 31. God says, I did not die of retirement. My son died for you in his prime. I said, you want to be in your eternity being safe? and knowing that you give God your leftover, I said, no, God, no, I want to give you my very best. So when I was 31, I left San Francisco, moved down to Orange County, California, and then that's when I began.

And I sold my first house, because that verse, I love what Jesus says that this guy saw a land and saw a hidden treasure and joyfully went home and sold everything he has. And that was my thing. It's like, man, that's it. I found my joy. And just given everything I got, it's not a sacrifice. It is the success of when in one soul has far more value than winning the world's a praise. So you've started, you've got this vision to use animals to tell the story of the Bible.

Yeah. So as ADD, HDD that I had, I struggle. So I, you know, I can't read this. These are too many words. So as I read it, you know, sometimes I have to listen to audiobooks and I see pictures. I saw like the verses, like, you know, the animal came to the ark seven day before the flood. well, what did they saw? 120 years. Maybe they saw the animal eaters. For 120 years, they ran away. They didn't want this animal eater came and destroy their forest. But those who took a giant leaf of faith

when inside the animal eaters valley found out it's an animal savior. And that's exactly how, what happened to the Hebrew. They saw Jesus as animal eaters for those who accepted Christ found out his animal saviors. So that God's is beginning, gave me this parable of allegory, because Jesus preaching 57 parables in New Testament. None of them were religious. They're all allegory. But Jesus says that those who have ears and that these ears see and hear. I saw that you got to explain.

So if the Lion King, if I can sit here, can you imagine Pastor Disney has Lion King? And if every church in the world would do a Hakuda Matata VBS or Sunday school, every church would be so packed. And that's what God wants. I think God wants his message theme in mainstream. There's an happy religious. So these books, these beautiful picture books in the last 20 years, I have made, you know, the animal perspective of Noah's art, fish perspective, Moses, part, and the rest of the lion perspective of Daniel. And also I did Christmas and Easter animal perspective that Jesus became the ultimate animal sacrifice.

I was just creating this book to be beautiful for the investor to see what animated film, from this to that. Well, long and behold, I went to China. Sometimes you forget your Chinese. You grew up in America, so I was invited to do a TED Talk in China. And, man, I can't believe it. Seven years ago, our entire story of the Bible books won the best children's book in the communist China. Wait a minute. That's right.

You've animated the story of our faith. Yes. And you took it to China. And it was the number one children's book in China. Yes. Yes. So I got invited by the Billy Graham's staff and talk about how in the world, right? All the Billy Graham people got invited out from China because I looked like them.

And my stories are so inspirational because I kept talking about our ancestors were creative people. They were not knockoff, pirating, manufacturing. They were innovated. You know, Chinese invented the paper compass, great walls, fireworks. What happened to us? Why are we the cow of the east? We should be a cowboy. So they love that.

So I became, they published my biography. I keep, in my, in my TED talk, I said, God saw, my mom saw me as marble, but God saw me as diamonds. So these books, when it got published, and also pastor, by the way, we even got a land in China right now, right by Disney, in Shanghai, that we have a land endorsed by the government. So our film comes out, we're going to build a whole slate of theme park based on these books. I wish you'd get a bigger vision. I'm sorry that you only wanted to reach all the children in China with the gospel. Yeah. And you found a way to do that.

That is incredible to me. So the books and the publishing is kind of a non-profit segment. That's right. But your real goal is to turn this into animated films. That's right. Yeah, as a mainstream film. And then you'll market that in the mainstream. That's right.

In a way of introducing people to faith without announcing that you're doing that. That's right. That's right. You don't need to. You know, like Jesus with a fried bread and two fish. There's no crossword John 316 on it. You see? It's just a beautiful buffet of five bread and two fish.

Just make your work excellent, and people will know that you'll glorify God. And that's what I want to do with animated films for Jesus, for the mainstream for Christ. So while California is having his mass exodus, I think we have more Californians in Tennessee than you have in California. I know. I heard. God has left you there. Yes. To be not only salt and light, but to use the tools that Hollywood has created. That's right.

And the microphone and the megaphone that they have to shot the good news of the gospel. Yeah. Well, creativity, I have to say, it's God's first attribute. The Bible began in the verse one, in the beginning God created. And we are all created in his image. So that creativity, Hollywood, has its own by Almighty God. You notice Disney and all these major studios, they're running out of creativity. And I'm glad because why?

They're revamping all the old stuff. It's part three. They don't have original ideas. The original ideas comes from here, man. I have the best created team that my team is the Holy Spirit. I mean, can you imagine our creativity. When I write my script, we begin with prayer. Holy Spirit, what do you want to write on the wall of men's heart?

For these children, today, they are taunting by the world's all this twisted agenda. Man, we got to bring holiness. If the world is marketing darkness with that beautiful art, we need beautiful art to market this beautiful word of God, the holiness of God. the holiness of God. The question I'm asked most often is, how do I know what God wants me to do? If I just knew what God wanted me to do, I would do it, whatever it is.

Well, our offer this month I think will help. It's by a good friend of mine, Rob Morgan. The Lord is my shepherd. He's going to unpack the scripture that tells us how to follow the Lord's guidance and understand his abiding presence and his comfort. It'll help you chart a course and know the path that God has for you.

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charting our path, and watching over us. Request your copy of the Lord is My Shepherd when you donate any amount at allanjaxon.com. So where are you in the process of getting your first film out? Yeah. So I am on my first one, Animal Perspective, Noah's Ark. We are animated film. Full budget is $35 million, and that's $4,000 theater release here in North America.

So far, I have raised the investor of $17 million from a very famous burger joint in California. I heard they're going to be moving to Nashville. So I am continued using through these podcast wave to live. let investor know that you can invest in the kingdom assignment. So somebody's interested. How do they find you? They can just come and find me here and can dokids.org. Can do kids.org. Reach out to me and can do kids.org on our website.

So when you get your funding in place, what's the timeline? How long? So Disney, it takes four years for them, three year in development, one year in productions. So because we're all way ahead of right now, so a whole production now, it's only take 18 months. So once the money is in the S-core, it's seven, studio in Canada, one in Texas, seven studio total will be working on this one animated film. It takes about 2,500 animators to animate one animated film. I know it's an army. But remember, our character

never dies, right? The live action, Tom Cruise eventually will not be here. But our animated character, it's our missionary, right? I turn Noah into a fox. I turn Moses into a fish. I turn Jesus into an animal because these animals become our missionary. And if Chinese people want to arrest any of my figuring or my imaginations, good luck, right? They can't arrest them, right? And that's what I want to do is create this beautiful animated character and they become the missionary for millennium until Christ return. This is amazing. You know, one of the things I enjoy the most as we have talked is you have this commitment to doing things with excellence for the Lord. Yes. And that resonates with me.

I don't like sloppy Christianity or leftover Christianity. I don't like it when the corporate world does things better than Christians do things. That's right. And so I'm captivated by your commitment to do these. Even the books you print. I mean, they're beautiful. And the paper is not what you would expect. I won the best of the best, you know, because Disney train us.

You know, this is Mickey Mouse. We do nothing but the best. And if they think like that with their stuff, I can't imagine. how God would think about his voice for children. Well, he gave us his best. He sent his son. That's right. He sure did.

So we can surely give our best to the Lord. Yes. So you are making a circuit. You'll talk to people and tell them about your story so people can be involved. Yeah. So I love, I just love the fact that, you know, we walk by faith, not by sight, pastor. There's surprises that I didn't know these books were going to be published in China. I just thought about just create.

if I can't make films, at least make the book beautiful. So these books are in multiple languages in different countries and Portuguese, and they're all in multiple languages so that they can learn English. And while they learn English, they come across with the biblical gospel. So that one's our new ones, a whale perspective of Jonah, and that whale behaved just like Jonah. And so I never mentioned Jonah, right? But the name, the fish called Jonah is to fish with no tails.

And then I have a whole world mermaid that represents Nineveh. And so this whale behaved just like Jonah. He is not friendly with the littered mermaid world, but long behold, he doesn't realize that if he doesn't save these mermaid worlds, the whole shun is going to be toxic and it's going to be killed, and even he will die. So thinking back, Pastor, like, I can't make straight hate, but God gave me this brain that when I read the Bible, I think like a children. Like, you know, how does children think? Right? If this takes adult for them to go to theologian school to study this. But Jesus, with this parable, how can I make this so simple that children, when they're five and six, they can read this thing? And the parents can come out with this.

So I just came out with a homeschool curriculum because homeschool is so big after COVID because all this woke stuff is in public school. So we just came out with the curriculum to help the parents to explain each of these parables. So it's a 12 weeks Bible study that kids are, you know, it doesn't take 18 years. I mean, when I realized that North America kids that go to church for 18 years, Sunday school in VBS, less than 4% retain their faith, it doesn't take 18 years for them to understand Genesis. Noah's Ark saves animals, Jesus save souls. Kids get it. It's us when we think that kids is not that. Kids are smart.

They get it. Yeah, they know all the Disney songs. They do. Once they see it one time, they memorize it. I remember a parent came and says, Davey, please, I'm having like the nervous breakdown. My daughter is singing this song. Let it go, let it go.

And I added, I can't stand it anymore. I mean, kids just love beautiful presentations of music and songs and animations. You know, so. Well, it's a gift. It is. To families and children and to the body of Christ. Yes. Your efforts are going to bear some amazing.

Amazing fruit. Those funds will come in for that. I want to go to see the movie. Thank you. I want to step back just a little bit. It intrigues me. You had your dream job. Yeah. I mean, you had a platform. Most of us would have argued, you know, maybe I don't agree with everything they're doing with the platform's too big to step off of. But you, for the sake of the kingdom and the values, you chose to take your talent and invest your energy. There's a lot of vulnerability in that, a lot of risk in that. I mean, you did, you did. You did. sell everything to go by the pearl of great price. Yeah. How'd that feel and how long ago was it and how do you feel about that now?

Well, I always think about the rapture is coming up anytime, any moment. And if I can't invest right now, God didn't promise I'm going to have 50, 70, 80 years, right? I said, what if rapture comes back in a year and how am I going to use my talent that God's allow me to invest? And then at the same time, so this is what happened when I was up at George's studio, George Lucas Studio, George Lucas Studio up in Lucas Ranch. And man, one time, this is what it took, Pastor. I had this vision. So I bought this really happened. I went to Costco, bought this big bag of cookie.

It's way too sweet. I didn't know. So I threw in the trash. And next day, in my dream, this is the vision now. I saw myself when to pick out that trash. And I saw black ants, white ants, yellow ants. Every ants came with their vehicle to dissect and to bring back this glorious. pyramid, all you can eat, or a cookie. And I thought, man, last night there was not one aunt,

but it took one aunt, probably a Chinese aunt with his GPS and found this bag of cookie. Can you imagine the legend, the story that's going to write about him, the accomplishment, right? Usually they'll find a crumb. This dude found a whole bag brand near. And I said, if I can talk to him, I said, Mr. Ant, that is amazing. What a great, great resume. But I mock at him. I said, you don't even realize that bag of cookie, my eyes like a bag of trash. In my house, in the kitchens, I have this thing called refrigerator. You open it up, I got more than cookie. I got sandwiches, ice cream, steak.

I got stuff. You don't even have any words for it. Instantly, I humiliated him. Right there in that vision that I saw, God says, that is a great analogy. Well, what your thought that end, that bag of cookie. Well, your Oscar, your Academy Award, it's like that Oreo cookie.

Only if you know in my heaven, I have this thing called Super Costco, the glorious crown of Jews of the precious, priceless rewards for those who seek him and invest in in my kingdom, I am going to shower them with as glorious in their eternity to come. When I have that perspective, pastor, the worldly fame, whatever you call the beautiful 101k, the verse treasure, treasure in Matthew 1621, where your treasure is, that's where your heart is. God saved me from the pit of hell. He did not save me so I can go to church on Sunday and do nothing. I want to do something. I want to build a

kingdom that would not be shaken. And as my father said, I can do all things through Christ. There's nothing I cannot do. I cannot think about what I are able to do. I'm 31 years. I only have a house to sell. Well, guess what? If that's what it takes, so be it. But what if rapture comes back the next day, it would be a decision. I would never regret. I have to live like today is the very last day. I have to be that eager and passionate because the world is taking kids down by millions. And I got to have that fire because Jesus had that fire from me on that cross. What'd your dad say? Well, my dad thinks he's on a nut. I'm 31. My first wife left me. My dad says, you're not going to make money. Come back to Taiwan. Take over this apple bread. I went back to

Talk to my old man, I said, Dad, I have a call. I said, I can't sell your bread, but I can sell your Jesus through my creativity. I said, I can't take your business. No matter how much money there is, there is a really clear mission in the rest of every breath that God's giving me. I'm going to create till the day I die. It's amazing to me. And you're using the gifts and the talents and the abilities he's given you. Now you're not preaching sermons.

No. But you're taking the toolkit God gave you. Yes. And with an amazing courage, stepping into an arena that doesn't want you. Yeah, it's all right. You told me you were in a coffee shop there that they're having a conversation.

Yeah. And you didn't get the best response. Yeah, we were in the coffee shop. This is very normal every day in L.A. You know, when I started my nonprofit, Kendi Kendi kids, and I was presented to another ministry, says our Kendo kids is promoting wholesomeness, no sex or violence.

You want to promote the wholesomeness of biblical gospel, one boy, one girl. We don't want kids to be engaged with LGBTQ stuff. And, man, ten minutes later, these men has met in the coffee shop for 20 years, all because of my big mouth, they got kicked out by the owner, said that we are the hate group. This is two years ago. And this is the stuff that we fight every day in L.A., every day. Well, you were making an impact for the kingdom of God,

and you were encouraging children. And the children have a special place in Jesus. his economy. That's right. You know, it has always sobered me that Jesus said, if you cause one of these little ones to stumble, you need to go find deep water, a big rock, and a short piece of rope, because that's the best thing that's ever going to happen to you. That soberes me. Oh, man. I mean, that's the only time I would say Jesus mentioned suicide. That's pretty serious, right? If you hinder one child, I mean, you hindered me. And that's why, you know, when Disney says, get them before turn 10, why are they copying what Jesus said? Jesus says, let the kids come to,

that the children come to me, right? Don't hinder them. And when I saw, when I, you know, I grew up, my dad always, always live the word. He's not perfect, but it's just, he's such a powerful figure for me to really who Jesus is in his marketplace, even though he's a baker, but he lived as of this is his ministry, you know, so. Well, I'm excited to see what the Lord's going to do with you next. When I stack all this up and your dad is a soldier fleeing the communist, battling TB at the point of death, God intervenes, your own story.

I mean, dead in your mom's womb. Yes. A difficult academic life. Immigrate to another country. Yes. I mean, it's not just a single generation or a single problem. It's a story of overcoming. Yeah. So it sounds a lot like my biblical friends. You know, Moses had a lot to overcome, and David had a lot to overcome, and the Apostle Paul had a lot to overcome. And I think if you and I are going to make a kingdom difference in the 21st century, we're going to have to be more overcomers than we are whiners.

Yeah. No, I don't want to, I don't want to complain. I don't want to complain how big this challenge of Goliath of our nation is, because I don't hear that in you. I just know that God has a solution, and he wants to demonstrate how efficient and how, how, how, how, how, how he's, how, how he's, how, how, how, how he's a way. wants to provide for us. I just don't think we need to be stuck in this kind of thing. And I, when I go to homeschool convention, I see parents with their tears, is Davey, my kids, even though I told them don't watch Disney Plus, they go behind my back and watching other friends' account. I mean, you just can't stop it, right? If we're going to complain how big Goli is, and we've got to provide a substance, we've got to provide an option, right? Because kids, when I was book signing with my books one day in Barnes Noble, these are secular bookstore. A kid

came to me, he says, Uncle Davy, thank you for making your book, doesn't look like a Christian book. This is an eight-year-old. They know. They know when the church product comes out. They know when Disney product come out. They don't have to go to art school to recognize excellence. And that was the best compliment.

And that voice continued to be part of my heart. It's like, for that boy's compliment, I'm going to keep fighting because he says, Davey, he said, Uncle Davy, I can take your book and share the gospel with my friends in public school. They need tools, man. They do, and you're giving them to them. I just got this box set. These are beautiful.

Oh, thank you very much. The invisible tale. Yeah, the invisible tale. The word invisible came from Jesus, you know, in a parable. It says Jesus, he always preach without, you know, nothing that is not a parable. So it's invisible to those who can't hear. So that's where I get this invisible. They can see it.

Yeah. So what's the royal feast about? That one's a lion perspective of Daniel. So that lion behaved just like Daniel. And so he was captured and he was captured into the lion's den. But on this way that he was saved by Daniel when he was in a King Abercanazer. So he saved him. So he saved him.

So he remembered him. So every lion's den, when the food comes down from the king Nebuchadnezzar, they call it the royal feast. So when Daniel came down, it was this main character lion. And he's the one who explained to all the lions, says, we're not going to eat this royal feast because he has saved me from the, from the, his fire got caught up in the shat ride, Mishat and Beniggo on the way there. So, yeah, so I got this idea from Forrest Gump. It's like, Forrest Gump, if you want to remark American history, you watch Forrest Gump, you got all the American history in the background. So that came out in early 90s. That's when I got this idea says, man, make every animal of Forcump.

And then put the biblical stories in behind all the stories so that every. kid, they would ask, why are these foreshadows in the cave caught on fire while this lion's wagon caught on fire? In our film, we're going to do the same thing, right? We never mentioned Noah's Ark, but the story keeps going. So our story, Noah's Ark, the T-Rex, they've been bombarding all these mammals, and they say, there's no such thing as flood. We're too big and mighty. We're, no flood's going to kill us. But the, the Kandu, the fox. He says, Kendu says, I saw in my vision, the only thing that saves is the giant leaf. It covers every mountain, every forest, and even your little cave is nothing.

So, Ken do this little fox. He's our mascot, the fox. So the fox idea, I got it, is like, we got to be as wise as a serpent, not just a dove. And the fox represents that beautiful, majestic of a wise as a serpent. So Ken do is our main character. So Ken do all went to this force and encouraged the animal to take a giant leaf of faith. and then surely he called all these animals and went into the animal eater's belly, and they realized their name are all written in the, in the Ozark.

Every one animal going there, they found their name in the stall. So I talk about, you know, predestinations. God knew every animal by names. Yeah. You said R.C. Sprole paid your compliment. Yeah, R.C. Sprole, I met him 2008. And so I grew up with him. my daughter dated his son in the seminary. And so when he saw I was doing this stuff, he was having

me helping draw some of his picture books because he saw how quality the quality. He said, he gets it. So he calls me, I'm the Chinese C.S. Lewis. I said, you know, you got it. I said, you know, we got, we, we have no excuse with the artistry, with the technology. We can't, we can't let this just be words and ink, right? They have to be visualized, right? If Hollywood can make all this fictional Marvel superhero character. They're men-made. This is not men-made. This is the Word of God. This is life, right? But that does require skillful people that draw, make storyboards, animating, building it. I mean, this still takes skills. I love what King Solomon did. If you look at King Solomon when he built the temples, you look at it, right? We're talking about

massive. These are people. He did everything. The best lumber. the best architect, the best. He didn't say, I hire only those Hebrew. No, he hired the best. And there were hundreds and thousands of them. All they do is are masonry. He hired the very best to build the temple of God. I think it's that reverence that I want to take for these films that I'm making.

I want to have that kind of reverence. I want to hire the best to make this film for the king. I don't care if you know Jesus or not. if you are the very best. If Disney think that big, I want to think bigger for Jesus Christ. It has to. You've already got some property in China? Yeah.

So in Shanghai, because I go there, back there often, and right now is a little challenging with this government right now. It's very shady. But, yes, we have property in China that we're going to be building these theme park in China when the film comes out. I love it. Because, you know, they're proud of the fact that I'm a. I look like them and I could be their Chinese Walt Disney. And they'll keep looking for something like this that hopefully through this they can create their own IPs and stuff as well.

But Pastor, we can build this theme park in Texas in Nashville. We can build it anywhere, right? I mean, just make the Bible. Don't make it a religious experience. Make it a fun, fun experience because that's what Jesus did. He has brought the gospel. He made it so fun, but the Pharisees want to make it boring. He made it fun.

And that's why it only took three years for these 12 men's that changed the trajectory, the way they die. The way they die. I said, man, it caused them to give up everything. And the way they die, the way they choose to die in that way. This three years that they spend with their Savior must be extraordinary. I want that three experience for me. I want that to be whatever 50, 60 years, I'm 56 now. Whatever the years I have, I want to have that three years.

journey constantly to be burning by this burning bush so that my creativity, everything I have is his. One day I'm going to have to return back to him, but he's going to ask me how well did you did with the talent I had given you? I don't want to hide it. I don't want this to be about my earthly retirement. I want this to be a kingdom retirement in his eternity. Amen. Yeah. We're not planning in to retire. No way. We're going to play all the way through the whistle. That's right. My dad, 100 years old, still working as a breadmaker. 100 years old. He's got seven kids.

None of us are worthy to take over his business. So he's doing it himself. You know, one of the things that has been amazing to me through the podcast and some of the things I've done in the media is the people I get to meet. And I regret, I feel like the church in America has stumbled a great deal. That they're not proclaiming the truth with the enthusiasm and some of the things that we would prefer. I have met people like yourself that are modern day prophets.

I mean, you're telling the truth to our culture with the vision of faith and hope and courage to impact our world with the gospel. I mean, it's biblical in scope. And sometimes the fire of hope burns low. And then I meet somebody like you and I get a whole new set of fuel. And I'm fired up again. Well, sometimes, you know, like hope or faith, Sometimes it's not this mountaintop experience, like you've seen the burning bush, you come down.

Come on. Yeah, it's not. It's often for me, I carry doubt. I carry, can I do this? Every day I struggle with that thought. But that's why I need, it's great to be out here. I love coming to the South. I mean, I, just the synergy of just the people here.

I mean, California, the faith, the Christian circle, it's not the same, man. It's like I grew up in Florida. I knew what's it like. You know, I love going to speak in churches on Sunday and just get fired up by these audience. It's like, you know, give God your very best. I mean, I grew up in churches in Taiwan. You know, I, as a kid, 13 years going to church day in, day out, right?

I never heard a sermon or Sunday school, but a sermon that impacted me is when I go to church in Taiwan, I remember in that small lot of church, there's seven broken sofa. And I asked the pastors, I said, what is all these ugly sofas doing in the sanctuary of God? The pastor says, well, some family decided to donate their broken sofa because they just bought a brand new lazy boys. That sermons from the congregation had impacted me, and that's why I was planning on the show of God after I retired. But God says, I didn't die to view retirement.

And that's why as a trial, I'm going like, I am not going to be remembering to bring God left over. I am not going to bring broken sofa. With God given talent, he doesn't deserve it. He deserved the best of the best of our life. we're going to come and bring the very best to the king. I am not going to put my leftover, my garage sale attitude to serve the church. Amen. Well, my guest today is Davey Lou, a former animator for Disney.

Thank you. Now he's an animator for the king. Amen. I want to be remembered as that. And I love your vision. Thank you. We can find all of your stuff at knduKids. Dot org, yes.

So it's K-N-D-U. Yeah. K-E-N-D-U. Yeah, can do is that Fox character and then kids. Okay. And I'm telling you, if you've got kids or grandkids or cousins or uncles or next-door neighbors, the material is amazing. Thank you.

And so I'm going to be sharing it with some people. Thank you. I hope you'll come back and give us an update. I will. I come here probably three, four times. I'll be here September. I'll be here for your conference. I want to be part of it.

Yeah. Anna told me about it, so I say I want to have a booth here. I bet we can help you make that. Thank you very much. Yeah. All right. That's it. Can Do Kids.

Culture and Christianity, folks. Yes. We're going to give our best to the Lord. He doesn't need our leftovers. That's right. He needs the best that we have. Amen. We can do it.

I will look forward. I'm going to put on my calendar today. I'm going to sit and watch the movie when it releases. Yes. All for his glory. Thank you so much, Pastor. Thank you, Davey. God bless you.

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