Culture & Christianity: The Allen Jackson Podcast - How a Hollywood Actress Found Jesus [Featuring Jennifer O'Neill]

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

“I was forced to have an abortion. I had my daughter when I was 19. I wanted this baby, and I folded because I was told lies. I paid for it for many years and nine miscarriages later,” Jennifer shared with Pastor Allen, "I received my forgiveness when I came to Christ. It took me ten years to receive it about my abortion. I thought somehow what I had done was bigger than what Jesus Christ did on the cross." Jennifer O'Neill joins Pastor Allen to talk about how she found healing from her abortion, why it is important for Christians to unapologetically speak truth on cultural issues, and her role as Ronald Reagan's mother, Nelle, in the new film, Reagan. She is a model, actress, film and television star, spokesperson, producer, and author. She started a ministry called Hope & Healing at Hillenglade, which offers equine therapy for active military members, veterans, and first responders. In this podcast, Pastor Allen and Jennifer remind us that God gives us all unique talents and opportunities to glorify Him and speak the truth of His Word. No matter what your occupation is, your presence in this world and testimony have a greater impact than you can imagine!—More Info:Hope & Healing at Hillenglade: https://hillenglade.org/REAGAN Movie Official Trailer (2024) - In Theaters Now: https://youtu.be/njLPMG8qZ5M?list=TLGGjtC6d2aZ6vcyMzA4MjAyNA

When I came to the Lord at 38, you couldn't shut me up, as you can imagine. And I had a pastor that reminded me of you, actually, because I found myself on the Mori Popovich Show, talking about being born again when I had just come to the Lord. And my pastor, I went that Sunday, and he pulled me over, and he said, Jennifer, I know you're not a little kid, but I really suggest that you take five years and study the word because you are a celebrities, quote unquote, and they're going to gobble you up. And you've got to know what you're talking about.

All right. Well, welcome back to culture and Christianity. The point is really to talk about the intersection of our faith and our culture. It's not politics. It's how our faith impacts the world around us. And I'm excited. We have a very special guest today. She's Nashville, but she's a guest to our podcast.

Jennifer O'Neill, welcome. Thank you for her. having me. I don't read resumes very often, but they gave me a summary. I got to walk through some of this. This is great. Internationally acclaimed model, actress, film, and television star, spokesperson, producer, author, fundraiser, proud mother of three, grandmother of four. Oh, no. There will be a test. But what an amazing career in life the Lord has blessed you with. Well, it's so interesting that he gives you a platform. And I had a crazy, crazy life and didn't come the Lord till I was 38 years old.

Wow. Wrote my autobiography, appropriately titled Surviving Myself, which I was barely doing until I met the lover of my soul, and moved to Nashville. And God is good. And it's given me a platform from all that craziness, 40 movies working around the world, to addressing some important issues. Absolutely. But in an industry that doesn't always celebrate faith.

Yeah. I mean, from Hollywood to modeling, I mean, that whole gamut of places where you have not just survived, you have flourished. You have a bold faith that is known. What else is there to do? And let it be known with everybody. Everybody has that niche, as you always say. I just have to compliment you. I'm sorry.

Oh, we'll take plenty of time for this. I've just overwhelmed by what you do in the effect you're having and how honest you are and addressing the issues and the foundation of. the issue, which is our faith and our heart. So thank you for doing that. Well, you're very kind. But it's a, we're at a pivot point, I believe. Oh. And I think we're either going to speak up or lose the opportunity. Absolutely. And so I have pastored a good while, but there's an urgency that I feel on the inside of me. Absolutely. Spot on. And so we're honored. You have a new film coming out. I do. On President Reagan.

Yes. If you blink, you won't see me, but it doesn't matter. It's a very important movie. Dennis Quaid plays Reagan. John Voight is in the movie and is through his voice the story is told. And I play his mom. And she had an enormous amount of effect creating his character, his ethics, his strength. She's faith-based. She told her mom that she wanted to be a disciple of Jesus Christ. And she instilled that into her sons, and especially Ronald, Ronnie, she would call him.

Yes. Yeah. You know, Reagan broke in for most of us to our awareness when it's as a president. Yes. But he had a pretty colorful life before he got to the White House. Well, that's what's lovely about this film. It takes him, it's about his entire life, not just the White House days. From once he came, who he was, why he was.

He was good friends. My first movie was with John Wayne. And he was a good friend of John Wayne's. And he always had, I love horses, we all love horses. And Reagan used to say the most important part of the inside of a man is the outside of a horse. And I always say God was in a good mood when he makes horses. And John Wayne had a lot to do with him becoming governor. So he was an actor.

His mom did a lot of films in church, not films, excuse me, but acting plays. So she put that bug into her son, I think. they were best friends. And then, of course, he had Nancy Reagan. I always say she came after me as the influence. Well, I want to know a little bit, but this is off track, but John Wayne. John Wayne is everything you think he was in a bag of chips, too. And I have to tell you a horrible story.

I was such a snob at the time I was asked to do the movie with him. I had just finished studying at the neighborhood playhouse. And I wanted to work with an actor, you know, Al Pacino, someone like that. And it was the year he won his Academy Award for True Grit. And he was the nicest man and the best person to work with and gave the young actors. I was 21, I think. A lot of grand advice that I held near and dear for years. So I always have to say what a legend he was.

That is. So were you riding horses when you did that movie? was, and the director was Howard Hawks, who did Man with the Golden Arm and Real Bravo. And so another funny story, if I may, Hawks was actually retired in my age. I'm 76. And he said, I need you, the character, Shasta, to get on this horse and ride out of town fast. I showed English and hunters and jumpers, but I can ride. And I said, sir, you don't, he said, I'm going to crank the camera.

I said, you don't need to crank the camera. I'll ride out of town fast. He cranked the camera. We went into Russia the next day, and everyone was hysterical because it looked like the keystone cops. I was riding so fast as it's going like this. So we had to reshoot it. That is so fun. Did you do any other westerns?

That was the only one. Well, after John Wayne and Howard Hawks, what are you going to do for... Who could follow that? Where are you going after that? That is amazing. Yeah. I knew you'd been in that movie, but I'd forgotten it. Well, it was real lobo.

It was kind of the poor man's real Bravo. I remember. John Wayne wrote that Appalusa. Yes. Yeah. Woo! You remember. I try to pay attention to important things.

So when does the Reagan movie release? It's going to be this month on the 30th in all the theaters. And there are pre-sales. And it's just a really important movie for such a time as this. When he took his moment. mother's Bible to swear on in the inauguration. And her favorite scripture was Second Chronicles 714. And I'm paraphrasing, but for those who are called by my name to turn and pray and change your evil ways, and I will hear you from heaven. This is God talking to us. And I will heal your land and forgive you.

And of course, we all know that because we hear it all the time now. Very similar times when Reagan was in presidency and now. And that was her favorite thing. And she wrote a note in her Bible and she said, Ronnie, this might be a good scripture for you to keep in mind during these days. And I think it's right on now. No, I agree. I don't want to press the parallel too much. But he was in many respects a populist candidate.

And we see that in Mr. Trump. Yes. And they were both in seasons of their life where they could have easily. enjoyed their life. Exactly. And not made the sacrifice of politics. It is a sacrifice. It is huge.

What you do, being a politician, especially a good one, or a real one. So I'm a Trump girl. No, and I mean, I think he's leading with values. Not that he's always lived up to them, but I think since he stepped into the public arena. Given what we've got? Yes. Yes, we need him very badly. I pray that we can wake up and recognize that.

But it's up to us, as you always say. It's up to us to go vote. It's up to us to be heard. We have allowed... My dad was a war hero. That's why I love the military. That's why I do what I do with the equine therapy for the military. But in World War II, I have to remember, he was only 23 years old.

He was a captain of a B-17. He was shot down and in the prison camp. They made the movie The Great Escape About for two and a half years. Went back afterwards and got my mother who was English and they were madly in love. And they were like a movie. They were like Ronald Reagan and Nancy Reagan. And I grew up with Victory at Sea. That's what we watched.

And this is how you honor your country and you lay your life down if need be. And we've just, I think he would turn in his grave. Or I think of the Duke turning in his grave. Just looking at what we've allowed, the erosion of our faith, of the word of God, of the yardstick of right and wrong. it's not somebody's opinion. So just to get back to that in any way, shape, or form, it starts with us. Yeah, I think it's happened so swiftly. And we've, living in the midst of it, I think we don't understand how dramatic it's been.

If we awakened them and showed it to them, I don't think they would believe it or they would believe that we'd accepted it. But it was a slow boil. It's like putting a frog since the 60s with our educational level that happened in the Soviet Union into, I would say, to talk about that our education. So our youth, really, they don't know the truth. And they don't, they don't appreciate. I don't think, for the most part, what we have here are our freedoms and our safeties. Well, they're being taught the opposite.

You have presidents elected that say there's nothing great about our country. Which is unthinkable. But it wasn't that quickly. And if you really look at history, of course, has gone on like this through thousands of years. So no big surprise. everyone, but we've got to wake up. We have to be more courageous. You mentioned your dad in World War II at 24.

Yes. I think about that a lot. Those young people that waited ashore on the beaches of France. Yes. 18, 19, 20 years old. I mean, that's just almost impossible for me to imagine today. I have a grandson who's a Marine. And people who are willing to step up.

And we don't have any other choice. We have to wake up, and it is our call. And now I'll shut up about it because you do it every week, three times a week and more. But congratulations and your voice being heard so loudly. Thank you. You mentioned your mom. Yes. She was British.

Yes. And you told me a little bit before we got started. Yes. About some training she gave you. She did. My mom was being English. She was a stickler for language and to eat properly at the table. And she said, I have three kids and grandchildren.

And she said, no matter what I do, whether you use it or not, I'm going to teach you how to eat properly and what fork to use and so forth. So I brought this along because I think it's fun. I don't know if you saw it, but it's when I went to the White House, and that's Nancy Reagan. And I was there for a state's dinner. And I called up my mom afterwards, and I said, Mom, I knew what fork to use because there were 16 forks on one side and 16 knives. and so I was very appreciative. Moms, you have a huge influence. Family does, but many, many single moms.

And she virtually, Nellie, Reagan's mom was virtually single because her husband had a alcohol problem, and she raised those boys herself. And it was an honor to play her. But I think that's so important for the moms to hear because when you're parenting, sometimes it seems pretty thankless. Oh, no, it isn't. Oh, my gosh.

It's all we have. And we have to, and so many families without dads, which is very sad. But we who are believers, we have to stand up again for the family. We do. It starts at our kitchen tables. You know, I wanted to start in the White House, but it starts at our kitchen tables. That's correct. I have two brothers. And when we were young and at home, my father was a veterinarian.

So, you know, we'd be having dinner and somebody would call and their cow would be trying to have a calf. my dad would start, had that discussion at the kitchen table, and my mother would roll her eyes and just say it's hopeless because the three boys would, you know. But I remember she brought in this tutor to teach us some fundamental manners because we weren't always as receptive as we might have been from her. And I've always been so grateful for that. At the time, I didn't appreciate it, but it made a difference in my life.

Well, look at how you turned out. Well, that's still a work in progress. You know, not so. But that's from once it came. I think that that's a great upbringing. My husband had a great upbringing, very family-oriented and so forth. And I just marvel at the way the family acts compared to other people that I know if they have that foundation. It makes all the difference in the world.

I want to know a little bit more about the equine therapy you do. Oh, well, I started to work as a cover girl model at 15 to buy a horse. My parents were city folk and didn't understand my passion. I think I came out of the womb, loving horses. And so I know what they've done for me, my whole life. I bred them for 40 years, so I've seen a lot of them birthed as well and showed the A hunters and jumpers and McLean metal, not Western, but nothing wrong with some good horsemanship all the way around.

All that said, I moved to, my husband and I moved to our farm. about 15 years ago. And I thought, okay, God, I'm a little old. I don't bounce. I'm not going to show anymore. What do I do with this passion I have for the country, a passion for horses, and of course, pro-life as well? And so we started doing the equine therapy, something completely new for me, groundwork. And we have served over 4,000 military first responders in their families since with miraculous results. testimonies. It just really makes a difference. A horse is very different than a dog. It doesn't wag its tail. It mirrors your presentation in life and can really do some deep

healing that talk therapy can't. That is amazing. So how do you find the people you help or do they find you? How do we? Well, I work with Fort Campbell, Operation Standdown, the VA, many of whom, in the Reagan story, or even your friend Chad. Okay. He had Robes Show. Yes. He came back from his heroics, nine times, I think, or eight times. And then banged into life hard. To go back into the private sector is really something to deal with.

And we lose over 22 heroes to suicide every day and divorces. So it's the aftermath that the public has to stand up and really. open their hearts and their homes and their barns, if they have, to be able to do this and help. So many of the individuals that came, we had a program where they would come after a suicide attempt or multiple suicide attempts. And they ended up staying on for two, three years. So we have a program now to train them, have them go through. It's called the Harvest Program and then to go around the country and teach what we have learned over the last. 15 years is so helpful, not just the trickle-down effect of PTSD, hypervigilance of our heroes,

hits the whole family, and the whole family has to be addressed. Those people that stand watch on our behalf, whether these first responders or military, it's the whole family involved. And they're thrown right back in. And the whole family goes to war. And the whole family is on high alert all the time. So brief aside, when you talk about the veterans, you know, one of the things that's in debate in the current election is health care and how it's going to be funded and government,

finishing the takeover and eliminating private insurance. The government, as far as I'm concerned, has no business even looking at our health care. And we already have government health care for our veterans, and it's not the best. No, it's horrible. Until it becomes the best health care available in this nation, they shouldn't talk to the rest of us. Well, it's a very, very important issue. But on a light note, my mother being English, They, the government is their health care.

And she always used to say, everyone over 50 who has dentures has the same smile. So if you want to be an individual, don't want that happen. Socialized medicine has not been a success. No, no. No, no. No, we have the best country and we need to get our act together. And we need to love each other and get our strength and our voice back. and put God at the head of the table.

It's the only way it's going to work. At one time, Hollywood was such a powerful voice for patriotism and some of the better values that we have in our nation. And that's seldom true any longer. Well, when I came to the Lord at 38, you couldn't shut me up, as you can imagine. And I had a pastor that reminded me of you, actually, because I found myself on the Mori-Povit show. talking about being born again when I had just come to the Lord.

And my pastor, I went that Sunday and he pulled me over and he said, Jennifer, I know you're not a little kid, but I really suggest that you take five years and study the word because you are a celebrity, quote unquote, and they're going to gobble you up. And you've got to know what you're talking about. And so I moved to Nashville because I was blackballed out of the business. and I moved here and I studied for 10 years before I started doing women's conferences and did my first book. Because it's important to know you get lost in the shuffle. It's like what happens to our kids when they have a foundation in Christ and then they go off to college.

And then my granddaughter came back and she was a different person and she lost her faith. So I have a program called Glitter Girls that I want to solidify the foundation of, of their faith for 13 to 17-year-old girls before they go off into the world in college, yeah. She's not unique. A lot of those young women, young people go into college and there's an assault. So what's glitter girls? What do you teach? What's the background? I may need to line on. I may need a little. Well, I had, I did women's conferences, women of faith and so forth, and I did a conference for women and girls called All the Glitters. and I have a novel that is called All That Glitters.

And the rest of that sentence is All That Glitters is not gold. And I had a life that looked like All That Glittered, but it was not gold. And it wasn't gold until I found Christ. And so I do a conference, and I show a lot of cover girls and movies and all the fame and fortune and accoutremae that life can bring you. And yet my life was, I was bumping into life hard, almost died four times. I was shot with a 38. I have PTSD. I've had more marriages. I have to tell you this. Now, I have to encourage your audience that true love can happen no matter how late in the game. And when I wrote Surviving Myself, I sent the book to Elizabeth Taylor. And she called me up

because I was married more times than Elizabeth Taylor. And she called me up and she said, Jennifer, we have a lot in common. And I, I said, yeah. And she said, well, we didn't date men. We married everyone. And we're both hard to kill. So I thought, well, at least if she heard about Jesus, I hope I'll see her later. But the fact of the matter is that the influence of Hollywood has turned something totally around. And it's a little bit better now. And by the way, the Reagan movie is not a Bible bumping, boring. movie. It is top-notch entertainment. It's real. It's the real deal. It's who the man was and where he came from. And it's an exciting piece. I heard an interview with Dennis Quaid that said Facebook had been censoring it. They will censoring it. Because they said he would influence

the election. That's right. Because God forbid Facebook should influence an election. Absolutely. But is that crazy? That is crazy. I'm a little curious. You've alluded to coming to faith later in your life. And I don't know the story. So is there, can you tell us a bit how that happened? You had, I mean, you were born again to the bone. I, I, you know, I grew up in the East Coast in New York. And I always believed in God, but I didn't have a clue who Jesus was. And my mother, because she was English, said we were Episcopalian. So I did what everybody did. I christened my kids because that's what you did. I got married in church. But I had no faith. I didn't know who Jesus. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I studied Eastern philosophy for 10 years searching. I was always searching. And so when I found Christ, it was at a very odd time. I was married to a Vietnam veteran who was 100% disabled from PTSD.

But he kept talking about this guy named Jesus Christ. And I said, and he would rage. He never laid a hand on me, but he would rage. And we didn't even know what PTSD was then. And I said, well, whatever you have, I don't want because you're so angry. But he loved the Lord. And while I was pregnant, I have 20 years between my first and last kid. And I had nine miscarriages along the way and had the abortion situation.

So I can talk to you about that firsthand. But he kept talking about anything in small measure. No, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. It's just like my, I said to you, your eyelashes are stuck to your forehead. my eyelashes are stuck to my forehead. So, so during, people say, how did you come to Christ? And I said like a slow motion cleral ad.

I just, while I was pregnant, I started to read the Bible. And I started in the Old Testament. So it's a miracle that I came to the Lord because I loved animals and I thought God was mean. But by the time I had my son and we dedicated him, I got baptized and then I never looked back. That's remarkable. Yeah. How God can change the life. But I didn't hear about him.

That's why I say everybody has to talk. They do. Tell your friends. Yes, whether it's at the water cooler or wherever you are, you've got a platform. The verse in Revelation 12, which says, we overcome Satan by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimony. Absolutely. Our God's stories. Yes.

And just know that you don't have to close the deal. It's the Holy Spirit that closes the deal. So you don't have to be a person of many people. words, just tell your story and let the Holy Spirit take the rest. Because it's irrefutable. Yes, you can't deny it. Yes, exactly. They can't argue with you.

You can accept it or not, but this has been my experience. And that's such a powerful thing. Yep. Opens the door. It does. It changes everything. Well, I know you're also a strong voice for pro-life. Yes.

And I don't want to leave that out because that's such a front and center issue for us right now. How could anyone call themselves Christian and be pro-choice? is beyond my comprehension. And the reason I know, and again, I found myself on the view talking about abortion and being the spokesperson for Silent No More and just saying, it's about being educated. Now that we have the advent of the ultrasound machine,

we can see the humanity of our baby. I was forced to have an abortion, but I say that I was pressured. I folded. And I was told by my doctor, that what I was carrying was just a blob of tissue, a cluster of cells. They can't tell those lies anymore. And they can't tell the lies in Planned Parenthood about the aftermath of abortion.

And what it does to women, women are hurt by abortion, not just the baby. And yet our youth are 70 plus percent pro-life. And this is just a personal observation. I think it's because they turn around and look and think, you know what, I could have been one of those 60,000 plus babies that were just, we were all in the womb once. There are so many alternatives, adoption. There are so many beautiful crisis pregnancy centers that will help you. So just make sure you're educated before you make a decision.

You know, I saw a statistic that said almost half the women who have abortions have already given birth. Yes, well, that was my case. So it's not something unknown. Yes, that was my case. I got married at 17. I had my daughter when I was 19. I wanted this baby. And I folded because I was told lies.

And I paid for it for many years. And nine miscarriages later, that's another thing I want your audience to know. Not only can you have a happy marriage if you put God right in the middle of it. But if you've had an abortion, God died on the cross. Jesus Christ died on the cross for all of our sins,

including abortion. And I received my forgiveness when I came to Christ in all areas, and it took me 10 years to receive it about my abortions. I thought, and that's pride. I thought somehow what I had done was bigger than what Jesus Christ did on the cross. That is not the God we serve. And so once you receive that forgiveness, you can become the billboard for the truth.

And you can tell others so they don't have to go through what you went through. That's such an important point. Yeah. Excuse me. You know, God has done everything he's going to do for our sin. Yeah. And when we find ourselves in those places where we say, I can't be forgiven. Yeah.

What we're in essence is saying is God should do something extra for me. That's right. And you're bigger than God. And in reality, he's made complete provision. If we can humble ourselves and accept it, then we can be accepted and forgiven. Exactly. That's a powerful word. Exactly.

Just accept it. Receive it. Receive it. We're not receiving. We can't earn it. And we have to be, one of the things I think we've missed in the Christian community, because there are things that were taboo. You know, I was divorced early, and I had a lot of friends line up around me to say,

I'd ruin my life, and I should get out of ministry. Which, I mean, it's been a day or two. But, I mean, there's a whole list of things that the enemy will tell us disqualify us. Absolutely. And the reality is it's our brokenness where the strength of God is most evident. He loves to show off when we're broken. He loves to come and pick us up and say, you can't earn this love I have for you. And if you would just receive what I've done for it, it's already done if we could just step into it.

But we have to speak up. Well, it's comical when I think that the creator of all things should need my strength. I don't. I don't have any strength that can contribute to him. That's right. But he has a strength that can bring me past my brokenness. That's right. And that turns the church for me.

It's not a Hall of Fame where we come in here and preen about. because we're so correct. No. It's a hospital. We limp in acknowledging our need for restoration and the Holy Spirit begins to work in us. Amen. It's what I love about your story. For all of your success and all the doors the Lord is open and the places you've been,

in your brokenness, the Lord brought even a greater strength forward. When I fell this time in love, it's forever. And there's nothing more important. We are here at such a time as this because, we're supposed to be here. We have a mission. You talk about that all the time. So eloquently.

I just love your ministry. I really do. You'll have to come back when I'm having a bad day. I'm going to bring you back. I want to know about the women on the view. Are they nice in person? Oh, oh. You've got to show this.

No, I've got to show you this clip. It is hysterical because it was only the Holy Spirit that kept me in my seat. They were vicious. other than one, but they all, I think, had had abortions because they attacked so fervently on this. Miss O'Neill, I'm 18 years old, I'm in college, I had a lover, I got pregnant. You're not going to tell me to have that baby, and I said, I'm not telling you to have that baby. All I'm saying is make an educated choice, really understand what it is you're doing, what it is your caring. That's a human being.

and there are alternatives. But it was a crossfire. I felt like I was in Vietnam in a crossfire. And although I was very pleased to go on and be able to do that, I got more calls by the time I got to my car than ever, because we can't always stay in a comfy zone in our court. We have to get out there and tell the truth. That is such an important message.

And again, it's something I respect you for. You have stood up for the truth in an environment where that's not applauded. I mean, you got blackballed. You got pushed to the periphery. And yet, God has opened doors of great significance for you. He has. And every person that I can say, the uniqueness of knowing him, even at a late date, maybe that's why I'm so adamant about what's going on. It doesn't surprise me. Every answer, every question that you have, there's the answer in the Bible. He's the truth. He's the yardstick. It's not your opinion. And people need to know that. There's nothing else that's important.

And I also, we're both at a season in our life where there are voices that would tell us we should sit down. Yes. And I see you taking your life experience and the platforms God has given you and using them to tell the truth. Yes, absolutely. And he well for everybody. Everyone has a platform. And that was what was wonderful about Reagan. He did not, even in the position he was as a president,

He gave all the glory to God. And he was brought up with it. He was supported by it. But he shared it with Nancy. And his ethics showed it. His character showed it. But his life true, I mean, he went through his broken seasons. He had his battles with alcohol and challenges.

He did. And he came and talked to Mom. I have one scene. And after he got a divorce and he was broken. And I say as his mother, just listen to that small. quiet voice when you're alone and follow it. Because that's the Holy Spirit. And he did.

So what's the favorite movie you've been a part of? I would have to say, I did a movie in Italy with John Carlo Janini. And I would say that was my favorite. But to go back to John Wayne, he was one that said never, you know what the lines are. You know what the scene is. Every time you listen, listen like it's the first time. So when I went to Italy, everyone on the set was speaking a different language. So what he taught me, I put to service right away.

But, yeah, that was fun. What an amazing journey. Yes. You know, I think about my mom went to heaven this summer, so it's had me reminiscing a lot about life and journeys. But it's made me far more excited about what's next. I did a movie in Iran, James Michener's caravans, and I work with Anthony Quinn, and I was there for five months. And I've traveled all over the place.

But let me tell your audience, we're up against it right now. We have to support Israel. These people are really out to just destroy us. And they are an opiate-based culture. And I didn't know that until I got there. Yes, I don't even get me there. But I've been there and I see how they live and what they believe. It's not two-faced.

It's five-faced. There's such a thing. No, it absolutely is. And women are treated. Women, if you care about women or being, you know, the gay issue, you're dead on that. There are so many things that we allow and now have taken over in the wrong way. But please know, our enemy is sharp. He is, and unrelenting.

Yes. Israel needs our support. Yes. Because right now there's some waffling taking place in our nation, and it's tragic. What are they thinking? What are they thinking? We need to pray. There's some powerful voices that are Muslim.

Yes. I mean, actions speak louder than words. And if they're behaving in a way that supports the Muslim community, there's some powerful Muslim voices that are making decisions. Yes, absolutely. And I love that you bring it to the pulpit. I love that you talk about all these issues because people don't. And it starts with you're the leader of this particular band and is a pretty big band.

So bravo again. Thank you. I think we have to talk about what we see happening in our world. Yes. And then process it in terms of how do we live our faith into that? Absolutely. You know, otherwise we have a theoretical faith. We can gather and do our little polite Bible studies and then go live our lives separately.

Yeah. But, you know, that'd be like coming home at night and actually. acting like we're only married inside our house, then going acting out like we're single when we leave the house. Yeah, that's a good example. That hypocrisy's gotten us into this fine mess. And we have to take care of those who protect us, our heroes. Yeah, our first responders deserve our support.

All of them, they're all first responders, whether they're at war or they come and pick us up in a fire or a car crash or whatever. They're heroes. Well, my guest today is Jennifer O'Neill. You have had the most remarkable journey and the best is still to come. I hope. I promise. That's my boss.

I know him. Okay. I'll tell them. If people want to know more about what you're doing, from glitter girls to your equine projects to the Reagan movie, how do they keep up with what you're doing? Well, Jennifer O'Neill.com. But hillenglade.org, we're a 501c3. And those two, I'm not, I'm 76, so I don't know. I don't text. I finally emailed. But find me. If you want to know, we're right here in Nashville,

Hill and Glade Farms, and come and work with us, volunteer, help, and then bring your girls, and let's get them solid before they go away. Amen. Well, I hope you'll come back. I can't wait. We have a community of people that want to know the Lord better, and we would love to engage you in that process. I'm ready. Thank you. Culture and Christianity, folks. No matter where you are in life, if you'll choose the Lord, he will make a redemptive story out of you. We are poster children for that. Amen. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hey, thanks for joining me today. Before you go, please like the podcast and leave a comment

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