Culture & Christianity: The Allen Jackson Podcast - The Olympics, the Truth about Toxic Masculinity, and the War with Hamas

Episode Date: August 9, 2024

Cultural norms continue to shift at a rapid rate. Organizations and people openly mock Christianity—even at the Olympics—putting persecuted Christians at even greater risk of harm. Hamas raped Israeli women, murdered babies, and took hostages, but Israel is called "evil" for fighting back and defending their nation. Men are being emasculated and are told that the qualities and desires God gave them are "oppressive" and "toxic." In this podcast, Pastor Allen offers a biblical perspective on these topics and more. "How do we integrate our Christianity with our culture? There are too many voices that say they shouldn't be integrated; they should be separated. That's insane!" Pastor Allen declared in this podcast. Share your thoughts on these issues in the comments below!__ It’s up to us to bring God’s truth back into our culture. It may feel like an impossible assignment, but there’s much we can do. Join Pastor Allen Jackson as he discusses today’s issues from a biblical perspective. Find thought-provoking insight from Pastor Allen and his guests, equipping you to lead with your faith in your home, your school, your community, and wherever God takes you. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3JsyO6ysUVGOIV70xAjtcm?si=6805fe488cf64a6d Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/culture-christianity-the-allen-jackson-podcast/id1729435

Welcome to our culture and Christianity podcast. Today, I'm the guest. I want to talk a little bit about some things that are happening in the news and happening in the world that I'm living in, that I think are relevant to what's happening in the culture around us. The challenge remains, how do we integrate our Christianity with our culture? And there's too many voices that say they shouldn't be integrated. They should be separated. That's insane. If your faith is not impacting the culture in which we live, you have a theoretical faith and it's useless.

A theoretical faith won't help you when you step out of time into eternity. A theoretical faith won't help you when you face an almighty God. A theoretical faith remains just that. It's an idea that's never been implemented in your life. And so I think we have an assignment for our faith to impact the world in which we live. That's the nature of the experience. and I think far too often, it's either a lack of awareness or just cowardice that causes us to be reluctant to do that. So I want to walk through some things that are going on.

The last week I had the privilege of being at a turning point event, Charlie Kirk's organization, a faith event, and to participate in a discussion on masculinity in that context within the Christian community. And then God willing, this next weekend, I'm going to be at a Promise Keepers event. which there's kind of a reboot taking place with that. And so I'm grateful to get to be a part of that. But it's made this issue of masculinity be kind of forward in my thoughts again, which I think is appropriate because it's such an issue. We'll talk about some cultural things where it's going on.

But the definition for toxic masculinity, masculinity is not toxic. And it's a bit of, can you imagine talking about toxic femininity or toxic blackness or toxic Asian? I mean, to segment some part of our culture and just say it's toxic, if it's too present, it's difficult for me to imagine that we've accepted that. But here's the definition, and it's not some random from some crackpot. This is in the journal of the School of Psychology, which may be a group of random cat crackpots, but that's for another podcast. So they use the following definition to explain toxic masculinity, the constellation of social. regressive, masculine traits that serve to foster domination, the devaluation of women,

homophobia, and wanton violence. It's stunning to me that you can have a worldview that if someone disagrees with you, they're toxic. It's just unacceptable. Unfortunately, it has gained so much momentum. You know, they go on to say this harmful concept of masculinity also places significant importance on manliness based on strength, a lack of emotion, self-sufficiency, dominance, and sexual virility.

Again, I think they're putting labels on things that are extraordinarily difficult. Even Elon Musk weighed into this. He identified himself in public not too long ago as a cultural Christian, which I think is an interesting part of a journey towards faith. You don't declare yourself Buddhist or Muslim or agnostic. You kind of stand within that Christian tradition or Christian. Christian worldview. I think it's pretty self-aware to recognize you're a cultural Christian, even though you still haven't decided what you're going to do with the Lordship of Jesus.

The definition makes sense to me. But within days of claiming to be a cultural Christian, he came out with a comment on the opening ceremony of the Olympics. And he said, unless there's more bravery to stand up for what is fair and right, Christianity will perish. And I think he's exactly right. We have been coaxed into believing this thing that the 11th commandment is thou shalt be kind. And there are times God is anything but kind. And there are times his people have to be something other than kind. Otherwise, we are going to lose our freedom and liberties. We have an open border right now. There's millions of people that have poured across our border illegally, illegally. And we're told we should be kind. I don't know when illegal behavior

should be met with overwhelming kindness. Let's stop doing things that are illegal, and then we can talk about a kind way to solve the problems we have. But we are being invited away from almost any expression of masculinity. So the question comes up is, what does a God-strong man look like? And there's not a single model for that. Every one of us are unique,

and it isn't about how much weight you can bench-pressed or how fast you can run a mile. But I think there are some biblical assignments, the greatest assignments of our lives as men is to be a godly man, godly husband, and godly father. And if we fail in those assignments, we fail no matter how much we accumulate or what we achieve or what awards we may garner or what degrees we might earn. Those are our assignments. And I think godly men have some really simple. It isn't complicated or complex.

It's not hidden. You don't have to read Greek or Hebrew. I think there's three simple things to go with being a godly man, a God strong man. You've got to lead. Doesn't mean you're the only voice in your family. It doesn't mean you're domineering. It doesn't mean you're overbearing. But there's a need to lead.

Someone once told me something with no head is dead. And something with more than one head is a freak. And men have an assignment in our lives, in our homes, in our families, to provide some leadership. And there's some simple ways to do that. You don't have to be a biblical scholar. You don't have to profess to have achieved moral perfection. There's some simple ways to begin imagine leading as a Godstrong man.

How about taking your family to church? I mean, this isn't that complicated. Church attendance is abysmal since COVID. We'll watch it online. We'll watch it on our phone while we're on the boat at the lake. We will watch it during halftime of a ball game. We'll fit God into the cracks of our lives. But we've walked almost totally away from this notion that to keep the Sabbath holy.

Now, I'm not arguing for specific date or a specific block of time, but taking your family to church. And if you really want to take another step, I'm done. Let's just stop the Sunday ball tournaments for all the kids. We've turned it into a day of recreation and we've forgotten God. How about leading with your faith? Now, I understand. There may be some extraordinary circumstance. Maybe it's the World Series.

But right now, as a matter of habit, we've set God aside. We treat him as if he will tolerate us working him in when it's convenient, and everything else is a greater priority. We need the men to lead. We've been quiet and timid for too long. You'll protect the opening of hunting season, or you'll protect the concerts you want to go see, or whatever your favorite hobby is.

Let's lead with our faith so that our families know it really matters to us. And then secondly, we have an assignment to provide for our families. It may not be the only provision. I'm not suggesting that. But I am telling you, we haven't, the Bible says that if we don't provide for our families, we're worse than an infidel. It's worse than being unfaithful to God. So this isn't optional. And we've walked away from this.

You know, at one time in our history, in our recent history, the idea of an outstanding work ethic was associated with Christianity. We used to talk about a puritanical. work ethic. The Puritans, those Christians that were a part of the formative years of our nations, had a work ethic that set them apart from other people groups. They were more determined. They were more self-disciplined. They worked harder. That idea is really disappearing. It's almost evaporating. Now we think we should have life experiences and life should be an adventure. Well, if you've made the decision to be a godly man, you have a responsibility to embrace work. When we meet God in the opening chapters of the Bible, he's working. And he worked a

six-day week, if anybody was taking note. The line, the phrase that I bump into consistently now, whether I'm doing interviews or talking to people or in the literature, I'm a pastor, so in the literature that I read, the line that is just so prevalent is this notion of life, work, balance. Everybody is so concerned that we keep our life, work balance in the appropriate place. Well, I have an idea. If you haven't embraced the idea that you have a God assignment to provide for those that are dependent upon you. And oftentimes that extends beyond just your immediate family. If you're an employer, you have a God assignment to a productivity and provision for the people who are dependent on you showing up and owning your place.

Well, I want to suggest you take your life work balance, you put it in your MERS, and go play from the first. front teas until you decide you want to grow up and be a man. You know, in the literature that I read around my profession, there's all the talk around the need for sabbaticals. You know, we need a summer sabbatical. We need the month of June off to recover and to be replenished and to be renewed. Can we stop for a minute? We're not coal miners.

We're not on the front lines in Gaza going down into tunnels, trying to root out terrorists. We're responsible for crafting ideas and inviting people towards better behavior. We work in air-conditioned buildings. We wear clothes typically that are clean. People bring food to us more than we need on a rather frequent basis. And we have to have a sabbatical because our life is too difficult. We've got to grow up, fellas. It's embarrassing the attitudes that we, if we want to be lazy and slothful, the Bible says more about laziness and sloth, and it does drunkenness.

So I want to encourage you. We have to lead. We have to provide for our families. And the third thing we have to do is we have to protect them. It's our assignment. In this attempt to emasculate men, and I think it's more than an attempt, I think it's pretty prevalent.

We have redefined even what that means. You know, we imagine that to protect our families these days means we buckle our kids into the car seats until they're old enough to drive the car. We terrify them. You've gotten in a car lately with a child that wasn't appropriately buckled in. If you start the engine, they start to scream. So we've learned to buckle them in their car seats.

We put a helmet on them when they're going to go ride their bicycle. And we're determined that they won't go outside the house unless they have sunscreen on without the appropriate SPF protection. It doesn't mean we've protected our kids. I'm not opposed to those things. I think they're relevant and they have a place. but we send our children into schools where they teach DEI and CRT. And we have professors and faculty members and school administrators and teachers teaching our children that socialism is a better way to understand the world.

It's unbelievable to me. Then they show us pictures of the moms that are at school board meetings, and they say it, talk in glowing terms about the mama bears that are defending their kids from the pornography in the libraries. and I'm watching those clips thinking, where are the men? You take children I'm responsible for and you try to convince them to get engaged with pornography, sexualize them at an early age, and fill their mind with DEI, I'll show up at your office.

And we will have a biblical conversation. It's nuts. We need some God's strong men. We get more agitated if our favorite sports team loses a player or a coach does something we don't like, then we do about our responsibility to protect the families that God has given to us and the culture in which we live. You see, if we ignore the culture in which we live,

thinking all I have to do is protect me and my own, we're making our children incredibly vulnerable to what's coming around us. We live in this broader world, so there is an overwhelming need for a, change of heart in the men who sit in churches. We're going to have to lead, we're going to have to provide, and we're going to have to protect in ways that candidly we've stepped away from for far too long now. And everybody won't cheer. I'm going to get email. But I still believe it's biblical, and I think more than that, it's necessary. You don't have to be overbearing. You

don't have to be violent. You don't have to be vulgar. There's a difference in being a godly man and being a permanent adolescent. I'm a little weary with Hollywood's help and convincing men that we want to live as adolescents for most of our lives. I'm okay with the things that go with being teenagers and the things that are a part of growing up and maturing and forming our emotional lives enough that we can accept responsibility and be men in the world. But once we cross that threshold, we've got to leave childish things behind us.

That is biblical, if you haven't noticed. And this notion that we want to get together with the people we knew when we weren't yet ready emotionally or physically to be men and recreate those days leads us to some very ungodly places. We called the World War II generation the greatest generation. That group of young people that waded ashore on the beaches of France into withering gunfire. I don't know that we're prepared for such a challenge today. and I honestly believe we have a challenge of equal magnitude in front of us if our children and grandchildren are going to know liberty and freedom. So let's not accept the cultural definitions and the cultural labels around toxic masculinity.

Let's decide we're going to be God's strong men, and we will lead and we will provide and we will protect. I'll be back with some updates. See how this works out at Promise Keepers. I want to transition for a minute, something that's been owning the headlines for the last few days. As I'm doing this, the Olympics are wrapping up. And I've always been a big fan of the Olympics. They've occupied a lot of time in my life when they were being presented.

This year has been a deviation from that. Not so much because I'm not interested in athletic competition. I enjoy it, honestly. I like the effort that's involved, the self-discipline, the training. But the opening ceremony at the Olympics this year was a blatant, brazen mockery of Christianity. And in the way they presented the Lord's Supper. Now, there's been some debate back and forth around that. I think it's probably been pretty much settled by this point.

Some tried to argue that it was about a Greek feast, a feast of Dionysius. I'm familiar with that. I've been places in the world where that Greek feast was celebrated in mosaics that were very artfully created. But at the center of what the Olympic ceremony presented to us was a person with the halo, drag queens, mocking the last supper, that one of the most sacred times Jesus ever had with his disciples. He washes their feet. He identifies Judas. He reminds them of what's in front of them. He institutes communion.

I mean, it is a very, very serious component of our faith mocked on this global. stage. What was, is troubling to me, though, is what the Olympic Committee signed off on was the response of Christians. And I don't spend a lot of time in social media. I'll go out and check because I do some things that get posted in social media. But the Christians that were bantering back and forth, it was kind of like we'd drawn lines in the sand. And one group was saying, well, you know, we have to respond with kindness and tolerance. And we shouldn't expect everybody to embrace our faith. Well, I'm an advocate. for praying for our enemies and forgiving those who falsely say all manner of evil against us.

I got it. Those are Jesus' instructions, and I'm more than willing to go along with that. But God is not always forgiving, or there wouldn't have been an Exodus generation that died in the wilderness, or we wouldn't know the story of Ananias and Safira, and I'm not suggesting execution, but I do think our response is a little misguided. The Olympic ceremony, the opening ceremony of the Olympics, this global, celebration of cooperation and unity from all these different countries and these different worldviews where often there's great divisions and we unify around athletic competition.

Well, the opening ceremony of the Olympics is one of the largest platforms on the globe. So there's a messaging there that is important throughout the whole earth. And at the center of that messaging around the opening ceremonies, the choice was to mock some two billion Christians that exist in the world. Now, for those of us who live in the United States, it's not such a big deal. We still have a good deal of protection around our faith in the sense that if I stand up in public

and deliver a message about Jesus, I'm not an immediate threat of imprisonment, my family is not another immediate threat of physical harm. Christians in our culture, we may suffer some things, but we're not uniquely vulnerable. But there are many places in the world where the Christian communities are under assault. They are very, very vulnerable.

And when you take one of the largest platforms for communicating an idea or a principle to the global community, and you mock Christianity, you make those people around the earth that are vulnerable, vulnerable because of their Christian faith, exposed to those who hate them, because you have given permission on this enormous platform

to mock Christians. It's simply unbelievable to me. And because of that, I would submit to you that those of us that have freedom have to use our voice and stand up and say it's reprehensible. Imagine mocking any other subset of our culture in that way. Imagine if the opening ceremonies of the Olympics

mocked Native Americans, or if they mocked some racial group, or if they had mocked Islam or Mahan, I mean, you choose the group. We all understand intuitively how wrong it is, but the Christians for some reason were dithering. And if that weren't bad enough, when we got into the further competition of the Olympics, the gender confusion has emerged. We have men and women boxing competitively with one another. Now, I understand there's some dialogue around the details of that, but the essence of it is not confusing.

Every cell in our body identifies us as male or female. Those are the options. And to have men in a boxing ring competing against women is wrong. Hard stop. We've been taught my entire life, appropriately so that there is no excuse for a man being violent with a woman. Acts of violence or aggression against a woman are wrong. Period. We've worked really diligently to try to establish that principle in the hearts of our young people, no excuses, no justification for the protection of women.

We've been working on that for decades. And the Olympics, this global stage for messaging chooses to mock Christians and let a man beat up a woman. It's simply unbelievable to me. it is simply unbelievable. But because it's chic to support global cooperation, once again, it seems to me that the voices in the Christian community are dithering, having a great deal of difficulty finding an opinion, I hope we're paying enough attention to the spirits that are being celebrated in our world,

a spirit of Antichrist, a spirit of violence against those who are vulnerable amongst us. You know, you can put fancy language around it, and you can use conventional wisdom and chic social mores to try to justify it. It is reprehensible. And we are exposing our children to some very destructive momentum. I pray the church finds the courage to use our voice and a biblical worldview to stand up for the vulnerable amongst us and not fall. to some of this cultural momentum. There's one last bucket, and this one,

it won't be a surprise to those of you that listen to us frequently. It's Israel. They're not only in the news again. They stay in the news, but they're awaiting as I speak and attack from Iran. Now, that's a little misleading, because Iran attacks Israel every day. They just do it in the cowardly way

of attacking through their proxying. the people they recruit, train, and support financially, Hamas in the south from Gaza, and Hezbollah from the north in Lebanon and Syria. There are tens of thousands of Israelis who haven't been in their homes or their cities or their communities for almost a year now because of the daily rocket attacks that are coming from Hezbollah in the north. There were thousands, hundreds of Israelis murdered, brutally murdered by Hamas on October of the United. seventh. And the world has been demanding ceasefires. Almost from the inception. Well, I sat last week with Chad Robesho. In fact, we did a podcast. You'll get to hear soon. And Chad's been into

Ukraine more than a dozen times. There's over been a million casualties or more in the Ukrainian war. And you don't hear any routine calls for humanitarian ceasefires in Ukraine. the numbers involved in Gaza and Israel are much, much less, and the world has lost their mind, including America's most elite universities and our own Congress, in many instances, declaring the need for humanitarian ceasefire. But there's a bigger picture I want to invite you to, because as of this moment,

the Iranian missiles are not once again raining down in Israel. I wouldn't be at all surprised that they are before the end of the night, but the bigger picture, if we could step back from the immediate circumstances for just a moment, I think what we're watching on the stage, and we're on the brink of a war in the Middle East that could involve the whole world, two or three circumstances tipping the right way, and this is a global conflict. But I think the trigger for this goes back to our withdrawal from Afghanistan. When the current administration came to the White House,

they orchestrated a withdrawal from Afghanistan without appropriate preparation. We abandoned the most strategic air base we had in the world at Bagram. We left billions of dollars of equipment and armaments in Afghanistan that the Taliban collected. When I was in Israel just a few weeks ago, my Israeli friends said the Taliban is stronger today than they have ever been. And they're stronger because of U.S. weapons, equipment, technology, and dollars. We signal to the world that we were no longer standing watch in the Middle East. Well, we are currently giving the Taliban, the terrorist in Afghanistan, more than $50 million a week, a week from the U.S. government.

On top of that, we withdrew any meaningful sanctions from Iran, which turned on the spigot for them to have the financial resources. When the Biden administration came in, Iran was teetering on financial collapse. And we canceled the sanctions. Let the money start to flow into Iran. They start selling oil again to Iraq and others. They're wealthy enough that they're back funding Hamas and Hezbollah, who are attacking Israel. In essence, the United States and our policies, through these proxies and our international decisions, we stepped away from Israel.

we painted a target on them and have given hundreds of billions of dollars to those who have said they intend to destroy Israel. You don't have to be very clever. The Prime Minister of Israel, Bibi, Netanyahu, came to speak to our Congress in recent days and several members of our Congress refused to attend his speech. One of those who chose not to participate or be there was our current Vice President Harris.

She was too busy to attend the speech of who we've always said was our greatest ally, not simply in that region, but arguably in the world, certainly the only democracy in that part of the world. If you're not in the habit of praying for the peace of Jerusalem, I would encourage you to start to cultivate that habit. Not just an absence of armed conflict, but a peace between the Israelis and the God who watches over them. That's ultimately the only thing that will secure their future.

But you need to pray for our nation as well. Because both the promises of Scripture and the evidence of history suggest, God said he would bless those that bless Israel and curse those who curse her. And I could walk you through several chapters of history where that has happened. Maybe one of the most blatant from relatively recent history was the British Empire. Between World War I and World War II, at the end of World War I, the British found themselves with control of. that region in the Middle East that included Israel.

And they made promises that they would work towards an independent Jewish state in the Middle East. And then as World War II emerges and the circumstances that are coming out of that, when the world was forced to recognize the Holocaust and what had happened, the British betrayed the promises they had made to the Jewish people. They even tried to keep the Jewish people that were really without a country. They'd been driven from their homes, their property confiscated throughout Europe, and none of the European countries wanted them back. You know, the Holocaust is horrific enough, but on the heels of the Holocaust,

none of the European countries were particularly anxious for the Jewish people to return home. If they survived the Holocaust, they had nowhere to go. Somewhere in the midst of that, God was moving for the birth of the modern, and state of Israel, but the British betrayed those commitments to the Jewish people. And the line that historians used were that the British won World War II, but they lost their empire. When World War II began, it was said that the sun never set on the British Empire from India to Great Britain.

They were a global force. They were a world superpower. And by the end of World War II, they survived the war. London was intact to be rebuilt, but they had lost their empire. And I believe I have many friends, British friends, British Christians who would say to you, they think the impetus of that was because of their betrayal of the Jewish people. I tell you that, because right now in the United States, we're standing in a place where we're betraying the Jewish people and the commitments we've made to them. And you don't have to be particularly discerning to see that.

We're allowing Iran to have a nuclear weapon. we've provided them with hundreds of billions of dollars, multiple administrations, and we have emboldened, empowered, and resourced their enemies. There are American hostages being held by Hamas in tunnels under the ground in Gaza, and we're not making a maximum effort to see them returned. It's unthinkable. There is no humanitarian aid until those hostages are raised.

returned. There's no further discussion until those hostages are returned. We have no interest in protecting you until those hostages are returned. What has happened to us? You don't negotiate with evil. You don't out-think evil. You don't out-work evil. The only thing ultimately that evil will yield to is a power greater than itself. It's what makes the notion of God so important. We live in a world where evil exists. There's no question. There are some things that we see, some things that we experience that can only be understood in the context of evil. And in order to triumph over evil, we need a greater power. And we don't possess that in ourselves, in our intellect, in our physical strength, in our financial resources. We need the help of Almighty God. So our motivation for choosing

a biblical worldview, our motivation for yielding to the Lordship of Jesus of Nazareth, isn't just so that we can go to heaven at some point in the future that we don't quite see or fully understand. It's to make available to us a power and authority that will help us to lead triumphant lives in this present age and be victorious over every expression of evil. And there are times that will require more of us than tolerance. or kindness or inclusivity. I have observed through personal experience that the people who talk to me

about diversity and inclusivity are usually using that language trying to get me or people that share my worldview to surrender a place where we have gained some opportunity to be more inclusive, to forfeit something, to yield something, to give something up. They used to tell us that our biblical worldview

wasn't welcome in a corporate board setting. There was no room in the corporate world for a Christian worldview. So leave your Bible at home. Don't bring your Bible to work. Don't bring your Christian values to work. It's inappropriate. We have to be inclusive. We have to be more diverse.

And we very politely said, oh, okay, that makes sense to us. We'll withdraw. Until now we find ourselves with multiple corporate settings driving a worldview that's and the antithesis of a Christian worldview, not just through their corporate culture, through the heart of our whole culture. Bud Light would be a good example. Apple, Microsoft, you can pick your corporation.

It's not that they're absent a worldview. They wanted the Christians to surrender their place and then yield when they bring another perspective. I'm embarrassed that I ever cooperated with such things. I was wrong. I have repented privately. I have repented publicly. I intend to take the name of Jesus any place I go into any setting, proudly and gratefully acknowledging that he's my Lord and King, and I believe the world will be a better place if we would all do the same. We don't have to do it in anger or hatred or belligerence, and we don't have to be violent. But I don't intend to surrender because someone tells me we need to be more inclusive. The kingdom of God is not defined by the color of our skin or the accent with which we speak or the nation where we found ourselves born. The kingdom of God is defined by our allegiance to a man.

His name is Jesus of Nazareth. And when we choose Him as Lord, that's the first multinational, multi-ethnic. That is the ultimate global concern. It's called the Church of Jesus Christ. I'm a champion of diversity, but I will not yield the field when my, my Lord is banished from those arenas. All right. We got a truck full today.

We're going to be godly men, God strong men. We'll stand up for our Christian worldview, our biblical worldview, our Judeo-Christian worldview. On a global stage, when our Lord is mocked, we'll use our voices in our homes, in our kitchen tables, in our communities as a way of protecting those who are more vulnerable amongst us. and we will pray for the peace of Jerusalem and demand accountability from our government that we not abandon the people of the land of Israel and subject them to the terrorist nations that surround them and intend to drive them into the sea.

God's watching over us. Culture and Christianity is an exciting topic, and God chose you and me to live at this pivot point in human history. There is conflict in the earth, but I'm quite convinced that God is not frightened or intimidated or threatened. There's nothing in the darkness that he doesn't know. And we don't have to lead lives that are filled with fear and anxiety. In the midst of the instability and the change and the market dropping,

God is still presiding overall and he will care for us and take us through. Our decision is to give him first place. And that's more than sitting in church occasionally. That's more than occasionally getting out our Bible and dusting it off. yielding our lives to the Lordship of Jesus 24-7 with no compartmentalization and doing our best to honor him each day. It's a privilege for me to have this time with you. I pray for you on a regular basis that Christ in you will be more real than any challenge you face. So until we're together again, you keep taking Christianity into our culture and we'll just see what God does. God bless you.

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