Culture & Christianity: The Allen Jackson Podcast - “You Don’t Negotiate With Evil: Iran, Israel, and the Courage Christians Need Now”

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

As global tensions rise and the conflict with Iran unfolds, many believers are asking how Christians should respond in moments of war and uncertainty. In this episode of Culture & Christianity, Pa...stor Allen Jackson examines the situation through the lens of Scripture—discussing the reality of evil, the biblical context for confronting it, and the spiritual responsibility of the Church in turbulent times. Rather than responding with fear or political rhetoric, this conversation challenges believers to think biblically about justice, courage, and prayer while recognizing the spiritual battle unfolding in our world. It is a call for the Church to reject passivity, seek discernment, and stand firmly for truth in a moment that demands faith, conviction, and moral clarity.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to culture and Christianity. I have grown to look forward to these conversations. It's like an opportunity to have a cup of coffee and visit with some friends in a format that's not as structured as a sanctuary and certainly not as produced as a television show. So I hope it's a blessing to you. If it is, share it with a friend. Like it, share it. That helps us in many ways. As I sat down to do this or thought about doing this, We are just a few days into a war with Iran, and the president, I think, is now calling it a war and not just an action. And every day I have multiple requests, inquiries, questions about the appropriateness of it or the inappropriateness of it or Israel or the Jewish people or the Middle East. So I wanted to take a few minutes with you and see if we could respond to that and put it in a bit of a context. You know, I think that there has been a passivity from Christianity for a few decades. Now, really corresponding pretty much with my adult life and certainly with my ministry life, I think it goes back to seminaries and how we were trained. I think it goes back to the way we have looked at the world. Our emphasis on personal salvation, and really anything beyond personal
Starting point is 00:01:47 salvation hasn't been discussed. We have very little obligation to the world. You know, things like evangelism and certainly missional evangelism have been so downplayed in recent decades. They've been labeled and lumped in by secular historians with colonialism and colonial attitudes. So there hasn't been an emphasis amongst evangelical Christians for quite a season now to do serious missional work. I mean, there's some exceptions to that, some notable exceptions to that. But as a general attitude that has prevailed amongst the Christians, you know, we've wanted to get our personal salvation in place.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And then the rest of it was just kind of not our problem anymore. That's a very serious breach with, I think, New Testament expressions of our faith and certainly with historical expressions of our faith. We need to understand why. We have arrived at that place. Is it appropriate? Is it helpful? Is it not?
Starting point is 00:02:40 Well, all of that is a part of this conversation. So if that's of interest to you, maybe you want to add another 10 minutes to your treadmill or whatever you need. But I'll start with the war with Iran. You know, people have been saying to me for a day, it's kind of split. People have different opinion. Some are hate it. Some say it's awful.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Most of them hate President Trump and his team. And if he cured cancer, they wouldn't like it. So I haven't been overly engaged with that particular point. I think that the dismantling of the Ayatollah Khomeini and the brutal, violent, murderous empire he'd put together, had to be dismantled, or it was going to change the course of civilization. I think left unimpeded nuclear weapons were a foregone conclusion. If Iran is nuclear, the Saudis have to be nuclear. So now both the Shias and the Sunnis are nuclear.
Starting point is 00:03:35 We have a nuclear Middle East. That region of the world has demonstrated for many decades an inability to police themselves, to monitor themselves, to curb in the most radical elements amongst themselves. So if that was a nuclear part of our world, it makes us all exponentially far more vulnerable in the world a much more dangerous place. So I think Iran had to be addressed before they got the nuclear weapon. We had been more than four decades with the Iranian regime, terrorist sponsoring regime, and no American president had the appetite to do what President Trump is doing as we speak. So I'm grateful to him and his administration and Pete Hegseth and the Department of War. I'm still learning to call that, but in many ways I think it's a helpful relabeling.
Starting point is 00:04:28 A lot of languages manipulated and I don't like it, but I think that relabeling has a purpose. I think maybe fundamentally, since this is a Christian podcast, war is awful. I mean, there's no other way. There's much harsher language to use, but that's the most family-friendly language I can use by definition. death and destruction. And it's an awful thing. It's obviously a last resort. When everything else fails and evil continues to destroy and to plan increasing destruction, then war becomes a legitimate consideration and response. It's not just my opinion. It's not just a military opinion. It's a biblical opinion. I can show you that. I can do it briefly. We could do it in an amount of extensive
Starting point is 00:05:08 detail. So you can't simply look at a war and go, God wouldn't be for that. There are, are just wars. And there are times, it's not only a possibility, it's a necessity. And again, I'm going to substantiate that from scripture here in just a moment. I want to take a minute with Islam and violence. Christians have lost our, the polite way is heart, the more just, you know, we've lost our guts. We have lost our chutzpah. I mean, whatever you say, you know, we want to just say, well, you know, you can believe whatever you want to believe. And, you know, maybe. it has a little difference on your eternal outcome, but our worldviews are really all the same. The problems we have are because religions compete.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I've heard that ad nauseum, particularly in academia. You know, academia in America, as it currently stands, the overwhelming majority of it is godless. And it isn't just godless. It's anti-Christ. It opposes biblical principles and scriptures. Now, there are exceptions to that. There are pockets that should be celebrated and should be lauded, and I'm very grateful for them. I'm an advocate for education.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Up until recent years, I always told younger people get all the education you can afford. I mean, I believe that. I love to learn. I'm grateful to, but our academic settings right now are godless institutions. And so what's come out of that is this notion that the religions are the problem, because religions aren't passive enough. If we were just more passive, the world would be a peaceful place. What a bunch of garbage.
Starting point is 00:06:42 You're smarter than that. I've been asking you now for months and months, years actually, to watch, to listen, to think, and then to act. The reason there's conflict is not all religions represent the same worldview. They don't have the same fundamental beliefs about humanity, of God, of our relationship to God, our relationship to one another. We are different. It's convenient for those that stand outside to lump us all together. Those are the same knuckleheads that said men and women are the same. Remember them?
Starting point is 00:07:17 PhDs, universities supported. There was no difference between men and women. What a load of garbage. My father was a veterinarian. I've helped lots. I've helped hundreds of things be born. You can tell the difference. And then you can tell the difference when those same animals mature and grow,
Starting point is 00:07:36 the difference between male and female. What's the ball game the other night? It happened to be a women's game. There's a difference in the... Everybody involved is an athlete, whether it's a men's game or a women's game. Everybody's an athlete, but there is a difference in the... in the athleticism. I mean, it just is.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Well, in the same way, those same knuckleheads in the universities are trying to tell us there's no difference between religions. Don't believe it. The reason we believe Jesus is the answer for the world today, to borrow a line from a... song from a whole other generation. Thank you, Andre Crouch. Is Jesus bring something to the human being and to the world that no one else can bring? It's why I call him Lord. It's why I serve him as king. It wasn't because I couldn't find another day job. And so one of the fundamental differences between Christianity and Islam is Islam in its current version. And the world today is a global sponsor of violence. Now, there are peaceful Muslims. Not all Muslims. Not all Muslims.
Starting point is 00:08:41 are terrorists. But the Islamic world has either been unable or unwilling to police themselves and to address those amongst them who are sponsors of terror. And Iran has been, for more than four decades, a global sponsor of terror and violence. Thousands upon thousands of Americans have been killed because of Iranian sponsored violence. Hundreds of thousands of other people around the world have been murdered. And there's no apology. There's no hesitation. There's no reluctance. In fact, what Iran has continued to say is we will secure nuclear weapons so we can wreak violence on a much grander scale. They have said repeatedly, repeatedly over many decades that they intended to destroy Israel, a little Satan, and America, the great Satan. I think we have to
Starting point is 00:09:35 pay attention. You know, you don't have to look far to see that our economy is in real turmoil. Our nation is $37 trillion in debt. Inflation rates made it hard to buy and sell a house, even a car. We're all feeling it. When you go to the grocery store and you spend an extra dollar or two in every item, that gets personal in a hurry. Well, the most important thing we can do during uncertain times is to invest ourselves in knowing God better. Read his word, pray. That's the only place we're really going to find stability we need for the disruption that I'm pretty certain is ahead of us. Beyond that, it's just plain wise to make the way. It's just plain wise to make the best decisions possible in our daily lives with our investments.
Starting point is 00:10:19 When you think of all the options out there, gold is an investment that has stood the test of time. That's why I work with preserved gold. They've treated me with honesty, integrity, kindness, every step of the way. They're offering a free wealth protection kit, and all you need to do is text Allen, that's A-L-L-E-N, to 50-505. As a bonus, you'll get up to $15,000 in free gold and silver with a qualified purchase. Go ahead and text them today. I want to talk about the Iranian people before we go. I think there's a parallel to the Iranian people in the modern-day church in America.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And I'll see if I can highlight that for you. But I don't think that there should be animosity for the Iranian people. There's been a very small group of people in Iran that have controlled that nation in the most brutal fashion. And I'm grateful that President Trump had the courage to say, now is the time to do. do something about it. It would have been much, much easier for him to have looked away, for him to not have noticed. He could have taken a vacation to Hawaii and then soaked up some sunshine and enjoyed some fresh seafood and pretended like he didn't notice the Iranian evil that was there. That has certainly been the habit of many who had preceded him. And his political future,
Starting point is 00:11:40 in many respects, I think the future of this second term he has in office will be linked. to what happens with Iran in these next few days and weeks. So it was, from my vantage point, a courageous choice to try to bring a different stability to the Middle East and the people there. I pray that we don't get involved. I think that ultimately, if the new regime is the responsibility of the Iranian people, they'll choose their government or they'll choose their leader. There is no record in the current Islamic world of self-government, of democratic, democratic, egalitarian, one person, one vote, the kind of freedom that we imagine, there's no record of that in the nations that are predominantly Islamic. So I don't imagine that's what's coming to Iran.
Starting point is 00:12:27 There'll be some form of authoritarian leadership there, more than we would certainly, I hope, be comfortable with. But the people will have to use their opinion. They will have to do what's necessary to see that emerge that won't come from America or Washington, D.C. But to come back to this notion of warfare, you know, in biblical terms, war is judgment. There are some exceptions when war is just seen as an expression of evil. Some of the nations that attacked Moses and the former slaves of Egypt in their journey to the promised land. God saw that as unwarranted aggression and punished those nations historically. So when the response to their aggression was given in God's terms,
Starting point is 00:13:15 the war that was launched against them was his judgment. But as a general principle, just wars are expressed in scripture as judgment. I think you should know if you don't, because we tend to think, people talk to me, they say they don't like to read the Old Testament because it's so harsh. Folks, the God of the Old Testament, the God of the New Testament, or the same God, or our faith is illegitimate. You can't bisect that. You can't talk old covenant and a new covenant and act like you voted in new leadership. Either the God, Genesis 1 that created the heavens and the earth is the God in Revelation that will establish a new Jerusalem and a new heaven and a new earth.
Starting point is 00:13:54 That's one God, or the whole story unravels and it's incoherent and it makes no sense. So if you've been living because of whatever reason with kind of bifurcated, you know, you had a God of the Old Testament, God of the New, I would invite you to begin to prayerfully, don't just take my word for it. Get your Bible out. Begin to prayerfully. Holy Spirit to help you. Reconcile that God of the Bible is the God of the Bible. But we meet in the Hebrew Bible, especially the Lord Almighty is a phrase that is used in English frequently, particularly
Starting point is 00:14:25 through the book of Psalms. And the literal translation of that is the God of the armies. The word that's translated Almighty is the modern Hebrew word for the modern army, the Israeli army. So he's literally the God of the Angel armies. Now, the word angel isn't always in those places where it's the Lord Almighty, but it's clear typically from the context that he's the God of the armies of heaven. So God is willing to present himself in the context of warfare for his purposes in the earth. In fact, most Christians, not all, but most evangelical Christians at least are willing to have a conversation about spiritual warfare and principalities and powers and the battles in the heavenlies. Why would you imagine that there's spiritual warfare and that God would
Starting point is 00:15:13 always remove himself from physical warfare. It's illogical. I think much of the physical warfare in our earth and the present age has a lot to do with the principalities and powers, the spiritual forces that lead us to that. But be legitimate enough in your faith, be integrated enough in how you think about God and your Bible and what you trust God for to imagine the strength of God engaged in changing the course of nations and peoples. God's not. God's not. God's just passive. God sends his people to war. Most of us are familiar with the concept of the promised land, a land that flowed with milk and honey. When God was ready for his people to occupy the promised land, it was already occupied. There were people living there. They had walled cities and vineyards.
Starting point is 00:16:07 They had the whole thing. In fact, when Joshua sent the spies into the promised land, they came back and they said, it is true, what you have said and what God has promised. It's a land that flows with milk and honey. But the people who live there are giants. We look like grasshoppers in their sight. And they said, it's too hard for us. We don't want to do that. And God was so angry with them because they didn't have the courage to go to war
Starting point is 00:16:31 that he was angry with them. And he said, you'll all die in the desert. And your children will go to war in my name, and they will occupy the promised land. God was sending them into the promised land knowing it was a conflict. He engaged the first city they conquered after they crossed the Jordan River. And he stopped the Jordan River the same way he parted, or in a similar way to the way he parted the Red Sea. So the conquest of the promised land begins with God supernaturally stopping up the Jordan River at flood stage, which is a significant event, so the tribes of Israel could cross. Now, I've studied in liberal theological institutions.
Starting point is 00:17:11 They change, they don't like the conquest. They hate the word because they don't like the imagery of it. They don't like that part of the Bible. They do everything they can to diminish it, to say it was ineffective, that they didn't really conquer the promised land. Yada, yada, yada, yada. They hate the idea. When I was in graduate school of religion, we had chapel services.
Starting point is 00:17:34 They weren't mandatory. They weren't that committed to chapel. but they still had authority over the chapels. They wouldn't allow us to sing the classic hymns of the church like onward Christian soldiers. Any language that had battle or conflict or warfare in it, even if it was a historic hymn of the church, was not welcome in a chapel service. So what I'm talking to you about is not something new. It's not like the woke church that's arisen since COVID. We have been protecting this in our midst, this bad theology, this passive approach,
Starting point is 00:18:07 to faith, the ambivalence towards the uniqueness of Jesus is our Redeemer and King for decades. The first city they came to when they crossed the Jordan River, you thought I forgot, was Jericho and the instructions where they were to walk around Jericho once a day, and at the seventh day to walk around at seven times, and then shout, and God would topple the walls. God was engaged in the conflict to the point of he made the city vulnerable, And then the instructions to Joshua and the Israelites were to go into the city and kill the inhabitants. There's a Hebrew word for it. It's Herm, H-E-R-E-M.
Starting point is 00:18:47 It means to devote to the ban. It's as if the whole city was offered to God as an offering to him. You know, see, God said that the Canaanite inhabitants of the promised land had to be removed because they had filled up the cup of the vengeance of God. They had been given decades and decades and decades to reconcile. themselves to God. You don't have to have a preacher and a church to reconcile yourself to God. How far afield am I going to wander today? Romans chapter 1 says that every person knows there's a God, that it's revealed to us from God's creation and from his unmistakable power that is made available to every human being.
Starting point is 00:19:31 So every human being in the earth today and throughout history has had a revelation of God. Now, the Bible alongside that says that we'll be judged according to our knowledge, that to whom much is given, much is required. So I'm not saying that those of us that have access to stacks of Bibles and argue about translations and have churches readily available to us and Christian broadcasting and Christian podcasts and all the things. I'm not saying that the standards won't be different than those people have little access to electricity.
Starting point is 00:20:01 But every human being has an awareness that there is a God and has given an opportunity to choose to acknowledge him. And the Canaanite cities, if we go back to Joshua's conquest period, had filled up. They had exhausted the grace of God. God's grace is not infinite. There's an end to the grace and mercy of God. If that weren't true, Jesus wouldn't have had to die on a cross. If there was no end, if God's grace and mercy were limitless and he could just always say,
Starting point is 00:20:29 oh, don't worry about that, it'll be okay, I forgive you, just go on with your bad self. Then Jesus wouldn't have had to die on a cross. Jesus had to die on a cross because ultimately there's an end to God's grace and mercy, and there's a consequence to ungodliness. This is a message for the American Christian community, far more than it is for anybody else in the globe. God's involved in the war in Jericho. He tears down the walls. He sends the Israelites in to murder the inhabitants, to kill the inhabitants of the city.
Starting point is 00:21:02 The word is herm. It's been devoted to God. And that word is used multiple times. Things committed to God that have to be addressed. The principle, and it's not subtle in the scripture, that if you allow the evil to flourish in your midst, it will corrupt you and bring destruction to your children and your grandchildren, so you have to address it today. And wherever a generation has given that assignment, and they fail to address it,
Starting point is 00:21:26 and they tolerate it, and they accommodate it, and they make peace with the evil that God has said to remove, it brings destruction to their children and their grandchildren, the generations who follow. Now, I'm not trying to say that the war with Iran is a holy war. I'm not trying to drag God into this at all at that level. But I am telling you from a biblical perspective that if you negotiate with evil and make peace with evil and let evil grow in greater power, you are trying to ignore the difficulty of the challenge and you're forcing your children and your grandchildren to deal with it. I'm grateful for President Trump and his courage to do. address the destructive evil and hate of Iran.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I believe it will bring something better to our children and grandchildren. And again, I'm not trying to equate the conquest or the defeat of the Iranian Ayatollah with the conquest of the promised land. But I am saying that you can't simply dismiss war or something which God has nothing to do with or that he's unaccustomed to. That's a level of ignorance, willful ignorance, disobedience, You're simply hiding the facts. So please don't give into that. Almost everybody I know wants to be healthy or healthier. And I think most of us would like it to happen to us by accident.
Starting point is 00:22:52 But that hasn't been my experience. So what do we do in a world where there's so many options and diets seem to be like fashion trends? They change with every season. How do we respond? Well, I want to tell you about something that I trust, something that has worked in my life. Ancient nutrition gives you a whole menu of supplements, sources for protein and collagen that I have found made a difference in my life. You know, I decline most of sponsorship invitations, but this isn't something that is just an invitation to be a sponsor for something. I've actually used it in my life and it's made a difference.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Jordan Rubin happens to live in the Nashville area, so he and I have become friends long before I was doing this podcast. and his coaching has helped me lead a healthier life. And I have found those ancient nutrition supplements to be very valuable, whether it's the multi-collegin or now the new multi-protein. It's hard to eat enough protein sometimes as you age to maintain the muscle that we want to maintain. And those supplements have been very helpful for me. They've been gracious enough to give those of you who are listeners to our program. If you'll use the code fuel 26, you'll get a 26% discount,
Starting point is 00:24:02 site wide on ancient nutrition. That's ancientnutrition.com. Let's make choices to be healthier, and maybe we can limit the pharmaceuticals will be dependent upon. That would be a God thing. God's moving in the earth, and we can be a part of it
Starting point is 00:24:18 by what we put on our fork and not just the pills we take. The book of Revelation is God's judgment upon the nations. Have you read Revelation lately? It's not a peaceful book. It really isn't. I brought you one passage, which I know is incomplete.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I don't have the time in a single podcast to unpack the whole book of Revelation. If you want to do that, we'll do that on another series of podcasts. Revelation 6 and verse 15. I'm going to read three verses, 15, 16, and 17. The kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Hidden caves and among the rocks of the mountains, they call to the mountains and the rocks fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the lamb. For the great day of their wrath has come and who can stand it. That's really a pretty good thesis statement for the book of Revelation. Do you ever think about the Lamb of God?
Starting point is 00:25:17 That's Jesus in the Book of Revelation. You ever thought about a wrathful lamb? We always see them in such pastoral settings. You know, a shepherd as a lamb draped over his shoulders. We think of them in a peaceful way. The most powerful people on planet Earth are hiding and begging the rocks to fall on them rather than face the wrath of the lamb. That's our God.
Starting point is 00:25:40 That is our God. Again, we've had a squishy attitude about God that has not helped us maintain attitudes of holiness and purity and godliness. You see, if you believe in the wrath of the lamb, you'll talk to the people you love about the truth of God and obedience and humility and repentance. We've lost that for too long. We've had too much sloppy agape. Pray for our president. Pray for those young men and women in our military who are in harm's way. Pray for their families.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I can't imagine the stress of that. Their willingness to walk towards trouble, to walk into trouble, to face hatred and violence and brutality so that other people can know greater freedom and liberty and so that you and I can know a security because of their courage and boldness. How dare you hide behind some farcical understanding of Scripture and not take your place and pray for them on a regular basis? Are you fasting and praying?
Starting point is 00:26:46 Are you seeking God? Don't sit at a table and listen to nonsense. Somebody said to me, somebody I respect, somebody that has tremendous biblical knowledge. So there's going to be a horrible repercussion from President Trump because he's been so crass. And I listened to them with their threats
Starting point is 00:27:09 and I said, well, I agree with you on one point. I think there will be a response to what President Trump has stood for, but not because of his language has been coarse. Because he has stood against principalities and powers and spiritual forces of wickedness. in the heavenly places. And if the people of God don't fill that space that President Trump has opened by being willing
Starting point is 00:27:34 to say marriage is between a man and a woman, that there are only two sexes, that we shouldn't mutilate our children and our teenagers, if we're not willing to stand in that space and hold that at our kitchen table, in our holiday table, in our communities, then there will be evil unleashed on us. But it's not because of his language. There's another piece of the war with Iran I'll take a moment with. I don't think you should understand it or I should understand it. Principally as being about Israel, which is a popular thing right now.
Starting point is 00:28:05 You can get clicks. You know, hating Israel and hating the Jewish people has been a bit of a tsunami in recent weeks. I don't respect it. I think there'll be enormous repercussions for that. But we've talked about that in some other settings. I'm not going back to that today. Will Israel benefit from the Ayatollah Khamani being removed? I certainly hope so. I mean, he has been a sponsor of Hezbollah, of Hamas, of the Houthis, of ISIS, all terrorist organizations. He has not only helped recruit for them, he has fund them, he's provided weapons for them or the regime has, which has cost thousands and thousands of Israeli lives, has cost enormous amounts of time and effort. Four decades of death and destruction have resonated after the Ayatollah secured his place. They're reliant.
Starting point is 00:28:53 relentless sponsorship of murder and terror being removed. You see, those things being removed from planet Earth, that's not primarily about Israel. That's for the well-being of all of us. All of us. More than 1,500 Iranians are known to have come across our border during the Biden administration. They are lost in the country. No papers, nothing legal. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:16 We don't know if they are representing Hamas, Hezbollah. If they are terror cells, I think one of the challenges, we'll have in the days and the weeks ahead is there will be expressions of violence in America from people that have affiliations with the Ayatollah. We'll have to continue to pray and seek the Lord. The reason I ask you to pray for our young men and women that are on the front lines is you're going to want God's protection for you and your life. And saying if we hadn't done anything with Iran, we'd be safe.
Starting point is 00:29:47 That's insanity. If you have violent, murderous, terrorist amongst us, You will never placate them into becoming good citizens. They have to be addressed, dealt with, removed. You don't negotiate with evil. You don't bargain with evil. The only thing evil will yield to is a power greater than itself. I've said it dozens and dozens of times.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And so I think what President Trump and the Department of War have done in Iran will bring greater security to us, greater security to our homes and our communities to our churches. We shouldn't be afraid in our own nation because of the threats from violent extremists in other places in the world. We've accepted that as normal. We should not. When I've said to you in the past that we're a Judeo-Christian nation, isn't that we've ever been uniquely Christian? Or that we want the government dictating our religious beliefs. That's not at all what I'm saying. But the values that framed our founding documents, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution,
Starting point is 00:30:54 the values that framed our legal system, our historic educational system, have all been distilled, derived from Scripture. So they express a set of values that is dramatically different than Islam. You can't maintain Sharia law and be a good citizen of the U.S. because you can't succumb, you can't yield to the authority of our Constitution and the Sharia at the same time. We've got to be a bit more sophisticated, not more angry, not more belligerent, not more violent, certainly. We've got to be willing to engage the evil that is amongst us. Again, every Muslim isn't violent or a terrorist. I'm not suggesting that at all.
Starting point is 00:31:37 But there has to be an expressed willingness amongst the Islamic community to deal with that portion amongst them who are. I think you should also know that there are difficult days ahead for Israel, biblically. Then I'm not going to take the time to unpack this, but I'll give you one snapshot. The concluding chapters of the book of Zechariah introduced us a series of scenes. It's like we're given a scenario, and we don't get the context. We don't get the preamble. We don't get the conclusion always. It's as if you're looking through a window and you can see something through a window.
Starting point is 00:32:13 And a lot of those phrases are introduced, you know, a day is coming or in that day or at that time. Now, here's the challenge. The scenes are not arranged chronologically. It's like you went up in the attic at your grandparents and you found a box of old pictures and you dumped them out and you lined them up and you said, oh, this is a historical narrative. Well, not unless they were numbered, it's a jumbled set of snapshots. Well, the conclusion of the book of Zechariah gives us such a collection. of snapshots. And so there's some difference of opinion. I'm not trying to be controversial or start a debate. But in Zechariah 14, the first two verses, my opinion describes something that is
Starting point is 00:32:56 yet ahead for the city of Jerusalem. Let me read it to you. Behold, the day is coming for the Lord, when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you. I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle. And the city will be captured and the houses plundered and the women ravished. and half of the city exiled, but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city. I mean, I find no joy in that. I'm not saying it's judgment upon them for something they did in the first century. I think it's far more current than that. But I do think there are some difficult days ahead for Jerusalem.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I don't know. I have no idea about the timeline of that. You know, I'm always more than suspicious of people that feel like they have downloaded God's calendar. And I would encourage you to be as well. Understand what God has said he will do in the earth and hold it so that when you watch what's happening, perhaps it gives you insight and understanding. You know, I have lived long enough to know that ministers, and I am one, so I can speak to that with a little more clarity, I suppose. You know, it's easy for us to use agitated. and fear to mobilize people.
Starting point is 00:34:18 When I talk to people that live in the media world, the news business, they tell me that conflict, whether they instigate it with their reporting or it's instigated in the world, are great drivers of viewers, whether it's clicks or audience, cumes, whatever they may be. Well, ministers have figured that out. So I think oftentimes there's a temptation to live on the cusp of agitation and conflict. And so we look for things and we try to use them to engender fear. I don't want you to be afraid. I promise you, God is faithful.
Starting point is 00:34:49 He is our protector. He is our strong tower. He is our fortress. And no matter what comes to the earth, if we will walk with him, with the desire to honor him and be upright before him, he will watch over us. I trust him.
Starting point is 00:35:02 But I do believe there's some difficult days ahead for Jerusalem. You know, around the world, people are searching for truth. And together, we're doing our very best to help them find it. When you become a ministry partner with Alan Jackson Ministries, you're joining a growing community of believers who are committed to strengthening the church and sharing God's word through every available channel. Television, radio, podcast, books, Bible studies,
Starting point is 00:35:31 digital resources, conferences. Your monthly partnership helps us to equip believers to reach new audiences and to take the hope of Jesus to people who may never have heard the gospel otherwise. Together, we can stand firm in our faith and make God's truth known. Right here at home,
Starting point is 00:35:49 and around the earth wherever God opens a door. Let's keep gathering his people and building his church until the day our king returns. You can find more about becoming a ministry partner at allanjaxon.com slash partner. Now I've got a couple of minutes. I want to wrap this up. I told you a few moments ago
Starting point is 00:36:14 that I thought the best future for Iran would be determined by the Iranian people. I know there's other voices involved. I know that's awkward, but for decades they have been systematically dismantled. Their weapons confiscated. The general population in Iran doesn't have access to weapons. They had no way to defend themselves against the Iranian Guard or the mullahs and their brutal.
Starting point is 00:36:37 That's why tens of thousands of them have been slaughtered in the streets. Well, they've been spent decades under that. I pray we're never so foolish. But ultimately, they will determine their future, the kind of leadership they want. Pray for them. Pray for them. I think ideally we would pray for a regime in Iran that would be tolerant enough and make space for the gospel of Jesus Christ to be shared amongst the people of that nation. I know there's an underground church in Iran.
Starting point is 00:37:05 There's some varying opinions, many of them very positive about how robust it is. My prayer is that we will see in the months ahead of us that the church in Iran is no longer underground. It's no longer secret. If we don't believe our faith is strong enough to compete with the other ideologies in the fresh suns, light of opportunity and liberty, then we don't have much confidence in our faith. And that's my prayer for the Iranian people. I hope you'll join me in that. I believe that will bring the brush.
Starting point is 00:37:35 It's not realistic to imagine that Islam is going to be abolished from the Persian people in the weeks immediately ahead of us. And I'm at peace with that. But my prayer for the people there is that there would be a regime in place that is reasonable enough that it would allow a free exchange of ideas. That's my prayer for this nation. So people have to choose ultimately God. And we have to come back to this realization that biblically there are consequences to evil. If you choose evil, you choose God as an adversary. I don't care where you sit on Sunday morning or what creed you can recite or what song you know the words to.
Starting point is 00:38:20 or honestly how many verses of scripture you can quote, if you choose evil, if you align yourself with evil, if you choose to practice evil, you choose God as an adversary. And I think those of us in the church have lost that. We've lost the courage to engage our family members who we love when we see them dabbling with evil because we don't want to disrupt a relationship.
Starting point is 00:38:42 It's much better to challenge the boundaries of a relationship than to relinquish somebody you love to a place of darkness. We've got to find the courage to walk forward. President Trump and his efforts to restore our nation are remarkable to me. He's tried to do it economically to bring manufacturing back to America. Even his tariff system, which everybody said was going to bring gloom and doom, trying to get something that looked like fairness back in global trade
Starting point is 00:39:10 to diminish the tsunami of globalism that demanded the diminishment of America, and the diminishment of American economic power and our energy freedom and liberty, all the things they were doing. If we thought of it in terms of a living thing, of a human being, what could I do to weaken you, to diminish your strength, to drain you of energy,
Starting point is 00:39:31 to keep you from having the ability to respond to any threat? That's what's been happening to our nation for decades across both Republican and Democrat. This isn't political, folks, it's spiritual. The diminishment of the United States, with our advocacy for the gospel of Jesus, Christ has been intentionally being dismantled for decades. And President Trump, for whatever reason, and I'm willing to, a remarkable determination on
Starting point is 00:39:53 his own part, and I believe in many respects, God has called him to a season to bring economic strength back to us, manufacturing back to us, the sovereignty of our borders. Please don't be against the deportation of people who are here illegally. It can be done in a legal and orderly manner if we would stop fighting. It's completely illegitimate to say you're a sanctuary city or a sanctuary state and then demand federal funds. If you break federal law, you don't get federal dollars. If a governor can decide that, if the mayor of a city can decide that, if a city council can decide that, why shouldn't you and I be able to decide that? Declare ourselves sanctuary spaces.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I know it's an absurd idea. We don't want to pay income taxes. I'm a sanctuary space. I'm not suggesting that kind of civil disobedience. I'm telling you, you're watching something that is absurd, and you've accepted it because it's been wrapped in some kind of pseudo-Christian something or other. It isn't. The whole initiative to rebuild our military and then to utilize it. I was a boy when Vietnam was wrapping up.
Starting point is 00:41:04 But I remember the narratives of the men and women who fought in the military, and they said that war could have been solved on it quickly, expeditiously, but they weren't given the free. freedom to do so. So young men and women died and suffered and came back into a nation that showed, despised them, brought enormous suffering and pain because our military wasn't allowed to accomplish the assignment they had been given. I'm grateful at the moment at least, it looks like our military is being given permission to destroy the ability of the enemy to destroy us. That makes sense to me. Maha, what Senator Kennedy and those that are working with him to help make us healthier. They are bringing freedom and liberty to generations of young people.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I believe we'll be celebrating him in the weeks ahead. And it wasn't as if wasn't known. There was no will to do the right thing. If you know what will make a group of people healthy and you hide it, you don't speak for it, you don't work for it, you're evil. And we have watched that for decades. I'm grateful for what they have done. But in the same way, there are Israeli and American aircraft flying over Iran, as I speak.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And there are warships in the Mediterranean and in the Gulf. If the Iranian people don't stand up for freedom, they won't gain very much. And my best understanding of where we are right now is if those of us who imagine ourselves as Christ followers, if we don't stand up for the gospel of Jesus Christ, and I don't mean simply with our church, church attendance. I mean, if we're not willing to stand for it, we know to be right and wrong, good and evil. This isn't political. This is not about parties or candidates. The delivery systems for the blessings of God are seldom perfect because he works with people. King David was an adulterer, a lustful, violent man. And yet the Bible says that he was a man after God's own heart.
Starting point is 00:43:17 God recruited Gideon. And up to that point, all the information we have, he was pretty much a coward. I mean, he used Moses. He was a murderer. He used the Apostle Paul, who became the Apostle Paul. He was a violent, murderous man. God works through impure vessels. Please don't look away from what God is doing and use the imperfection of the vessel.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Look at the outcome. How does it line up with the purposes of God? with the character of God and his, is expressed towards the good of people. If we do that, I'm grateful for this current administration. I'm thankful for President Trump and for his courage and his boldness and the freedoms and liberties and opportunities that he is giving to us and to the generations who could follow us. But the outcomes of this will be dependent upon us.
Starting point is 00:44:12 If we don't take our stand, whatever victories are gained in this very brief window of time, and it is a brief window of time, will be readily lost. They will be forfeited. Please don't let that happen. May I read you one more verse of scripture, two verses Titus chapter 2, verses 11 and 12. The grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say no to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in this present age. Rather than worry about the moral fabric of others, what if we began to say to ourselves at our kitchen tables, at our holiday tables, in our spheres of influence, in our peer groups,
Starting point is 00:45:01 that we are determined collectively. We're not going to be silent with this. This isn't about personal salvation. We're going to do this collectively. Have these conversations at the table. Have these conversations around coffee and dessert. Have these conversations while you're walking or working out or whatever you do for recreation, that we will say no to ungodliness and no to worldly passions.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And we will begin purposefully as never before to live self-controlled, upright, godly lives in this present age. I can't think of a better pathway forward for us. I know too many segments of the church are woke. I know too many seminaries are woke. Stop worrying about it. Go find a church that isn't. Let's decide we will be the difference makers. There's some things you have to establish.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Biblical authority. Read your Bible. Believe it. Act like it's true. The sovereignty of God. God can do what he wants, when he wants, the way he wants, and he doesn't need anyone's permission. Establish it in your heart.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Stop saying God's not just. Well, I just don't know how I feel about God. When I feel that coming out of me, what I know is certain is I don't understand something about God. But I know he's just. So I know how I feel about God. He's just. He's faithful.
Starting point is 00:46:21 He's true. I have trusted him with my future. Let me make a suggestion. If you're going to trust God with your eternity, it's insane not to trust him with your journey through time. If you can't trust God with today, why would you trust him with your eternity? God is sovereign. You can trust him. The nature of evil.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Evil exists in the world. And it has to be addressed. You can't overlook it. our need for redemption. We need a savior. We don't need just to be cleaned up, polished. We don't need to be better dressed, our vocabulary to be more sophisticated. We don't need another course on whatever. We have to be transformed. The only thing that can bring transformation to a human being from the inside out is the power of God. Folks, God is moving in the earth. He's bringing down an evil, violent, murderous regime that's been in place for more than four decades.
Starting point is 00:47:14 The Iranian people have an opportunity for freedom and liberty they haven't known in generations. I believe the outcome of that will have a great deal to do with the prayers of God's people. Do we care enough about them to pray? Are you so hopeful that President Trump will fail? You're wishing for something else. God forgive us. God's moving in the earth. Let's determine to be the people of faith.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Let's choose to say no to ungodliness, to say no to worldly passions, to live self-controlled, upright lives. And let's see what God will do. He's moving. I want to move with him. And I know you do too. Thanks for joining me today. Before you go, please like the podcast and leave a comment so more people can hear about this topic too. If you haven't yet, be sure and subscribe to Alan Jackson Ministries YouTube channel
Starting point is 00:48:05 and follow the Culture and Christianity podcast. You can do that on Spotify, Apple Podcast, wherever you get your podcast. Together, let's learn how to lead with our faith. change our culture. I'll see you next time.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.