CyberWire Daily - The skills pay the bills. [Research Saturday]

Episode Date: May 30, 2026

Today we are joined by Marco Giuliani, Vice President & Head of Research at ThreatDown, discussing their work on "GachiLoader adopts AI skill lure." Threat actors are now using fake AI agent “skills...” as highly convincing social engineering lures, with a new campaign disguising the GachiLoader malware as a legitimate OpenClaw tool for automated Polymarket betting. Victims are tricked through fake installation guides and polished Electron apps into downloading malware that deploys the Rhadamanthys infostealer using fileless injection and blockchain-based command-and-control infrastructure. Researchers say the campaign marks an evolution in cybercrime, turning AI skill ecosystems into a new phishing-style attack surface. The research and executive brief can be found here: ⁠GachiLoader adopts AI skill lure Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:03 Thanks for joining us. It's a progen which is dropping additional malware into the systems. So it's a kind of entrance point to the infected system and allows malware authors to drop additional malware in this specific case that we detected. It's the Rodhamant is Infostiller to collect sensitive data by hiding it inside what looks like an AI agent skill coming from a legitimate developer tool of encloat. That's Marco Giuliani, Vice President and Head of Research, at Threat Down. The research we're discussing today is titled Gatchelotor, adopts AI skill lure. Well, the research describes AI agent skills as a new lure. What makes that such an effective
Starting point is 00:03:07 delivery mechanism? Oh, that's actually, you know, the key point, you know, it's a very clever multi-step social engineering campaign. So the key point here is the, the, the trust. Traditional, I keep saying these multiple times, the traditional endpoint security, you know, has got very, very good lately in the last, you know, 10, 15 years. So also the attackers needed to look for, you know, blind spots. Right now, the biggest blind spot that we have is the AI agent ecosystem. So what we are doing right now is monitoring.
Starting point is 00:03:56 My team, the research team is monitoring all the EDR detections and triggers which come from the AI world. What does that mean? If we find something which is connected somehow to AI tools can be agentic. be agentic systems, can be open clow, can be Gemini, the common line interface, clothe, desktop, or whatever. If we detect some suspicious activity happening through or coming from those specific tools, then this is definitely ringing a bell to the research team and that automatically get upgraded to the high-guess security level investigation need from the research team.
Starting point is 00:04:50 In this specific case, that's how it happened. We were monitoring the suspicious activity. We are monitoring constantly monitoring suspicious activities strictly connected to those tools. And in the specific case, we detected this specific attack. Well, let's go through the user experience here. But what does the victim see and what convinces them to go down this path? Cool. You know, once it was the email, fake email, phasing email.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Now, let's try imaging. Let's try and imagine a developer today looking to, let's say, had the new capability to the AI agent. They come across a skill package. Inside there is a file called actually what looks like a legitimate skill package. And inside there is a file called REMME before instant. HTML. This isn't just a simple text file.
Starting point is 00:05:58 The developer opened it looks like a telegraph blog post, convincing legitimate looking piece of documentation. And this document instruct the user, the developer, to download the dependencies from GitHub release page, legitimate, you know, GitHub. Everything comes from GitHub, you know, should be safe. That's what developers assume today. But that GitHub page is entirely fake.
Starting point is 00:06:29 It's completely dressed up in using the OpenClood brand. But it's not that. It's just a fake open, fake open clue page. The funny thing here is that, you know, that's the victim, which is starting every single that reading the manual, going to GitHub, clicking download, they are, you know, they are letting their guard down. That's not, you know, something that the attacker is doing. That's funny, but that, you know, that's the usual social engineering trick, just changing
Starting point is 00:07:03 the tools, just changing the ways, but that's always the same problem, the same security program that we are trying to fix, you know, for a long time. Since the security, you know, IT security started, you know, kicking in, the user is, you know, willingly invite the malware in. They are thinking that they are just installing a standard, you know, skill dependency. Well, the lure talks about real services, things like weather forecasts and prediction markets. I guess that realism helps make the attack believable. Exactly. That's the world plan. The world plan is making a strike.
Starting point is 00:07:41 It's a, you know, building a drill, trustable style. Sometimes they also, you know, invite you to do that, and they promise you to that you're going to make a lot of money. Just, you know, sitting in front of your PC. I mean, everybody sometimes, you know, everybody wants in a while, once in time, you know, hope to do that. I did sometimes as well, you know, you sit in front of your PC and you hope that what you're doing is making you, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:11 It's going to make you money, a lot of money without doing anything. Who is not, you know, hope that at least once in their life. Right, right. Well, let's break down the two tracks here. The research talks about two different ways for this to be delivered. Can you take us through that element? So, yes, absolutely. So what happens is once the, you know, execution begins,
Starting point is 00:08:38 what the actors, the track actors do. they immediately deploy, or actually I would say the victim itself deploy the Gaki Loder, you know. And the very interesting thing here is that actually, you know, it's not new, but that's the most used way to drop malware as a day. Gakiloder is being dropped using file as injection techniques. What does that mean is that they are not dropping traditional, you know, executable, easily scannable, executable onto the disk. They are actually injecting the payload directly into the memory of legitimate processes using, you know, what they are using, you know, the kind of attack that's, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:30 leaving off the land attack. What does that mean? Attackers are not using any more standalone, malicious executable. Why would they are not doing that anymore because it's easy now detecting, you know, executable, malicious executable. That's what, you know, AV are doing for the last two decades, it's not three decades. How do they skip this kind of detection from traditional anti-malware solution by using legitimate tools? I'm using legitimate tools, let's say Python scripts, let's say every interpreter, PowerShell or whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:07 what they do is they trick the user into running a script into running whatever looks like legitimate, but it's coming from a legitimate tool. So even an anti-m malware, a classic, a traditional security product, cannot easily detect what's happening because it's happening from a legitimate tool. And this makes incredibly stealthy attack and hard for the classic AV tool to catch. And that's the first part how it gets installed into the system. What's the really fascinating part, I will say, is the command and control infrastructure that Gakey Lodder has set up. Usually, you know, what's the command and control is basically the server, the centralized server that the malware is connecting to receive commands, you know, the next steps that it needs to execute.
Starting point is 00:11:02 how usually that, you know, get blocked by anti-malware or security companies, security products, or also law enforcement, they go to the server, they go to the high speed, they block the connection to that specific IP, blacklist the IP, they get the server down, and that's how usually a common and control infrastructure is disabled, is switched off, turned off. That's not for gagged. loader because they are now utilizing a blockchain-based company control mechanism. That's really fascinating in my, I mean, from my point of view, because right now they are
Starting point is 00:11:46 hosting their communication pathways on decentralized blockchain network. And by doing so, the infrastructure becomes highly resilient for defenders, for AV companies, security companies, it's incredibly difficult to simply, you know, take down a server as it was easy, as it was before. And the combination of fileless execution locally on the system, on the infracted system, and the decentralized command control, which is basically distributed globally across the world world, it's a tremendous, it's a tremendous and dangerous mix that can you know, that ultimately in this specific case,
Starting point is 00:12:36 ultimately drops the Ramadan disinfestiler to steal steal credential and sensitive data, but in the end, makes this combination extremely resilient against security product and also for law
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Starting point is 00:14:20 You mentioned the Rotamonthe's Info-Stealer. From a defender's perspective, what makes this combination of Gatchelotor and Radamonthus particularly dangerous? As I said, security product, AV, they are not, the classic security products, are not able to see to see this attack. They cannot find anything running on the system because it's everything running in memory. They cannot detect
Starting point is 00:14:54 the eventual command and control connection because they are not connecting through classic IPs. So they are completely, the security product is completely blind to this attack. And this allows attackers to do whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:15:12 This is incredible. incredibly powerful for the attackers. And if you look from a defender perspective, that's very strong int and sign that we as a defender, but we as a security company, but also every company need to switch their attention to not just detect malicious activities,
Starting point is 00:15:37 but it's more detecting what is not normal. to your system. So it's a completely, it's a different approach. That's what an EDR product is, basically, not detecting what is malicious, but detecting what is anomalous enough for that system to be, you know, to be reported and to be reported and being carefully taken into consideration. It's a completely different shift of, it's a different part of me. It's, that makes the security, uh, way more complicated. It doesn't make sense what I'm saying. It's more like, you know, not anymore saying,
Starting point is 00:16:21 hey, this is bad, but it's more like, hey, this is anomalous from my system. Technically, it shouldn't do that. By doing that means that we need to know for a fact what is normal on the system. That's what an EDR product is, basically. Understanding what's normal on the system and reporting what is suspicious enough to be not included in the normal activities of that system.
Starting point is 00:16:49 As I was reading through the research, there was a statement here that caught my eye. You describe skills as the new fishing attachment. What does that shift mean for how organizations should be thinking about user risk? That's actually a great question. Thanks for asking that. The attack surface is right now is shifting. It's quickly shifting as the world world is shifting to AI. It usually happens, you know, happening also in the past. I'm actually in the security industry for almost 20 years now.
Starting point is 00:17:29 So I'm lucky enough to have seen multiple things, you know, wars, fishing and, you know, root kids and etc. And I always seen that every time we have, shift to a new technology. Everybody's run to catch this new technology, but the risks of threat, the risks of the new technology are not immediately taken into consideration. And that's the blind spot, you know, for every new technology. What that means is that, you know, new technology, new AI, everybody is shifting into the agentic AI so that you can instruct your computer, your endpoint to do stuff for you.
Starting point is 00:18:17 How to make it, you know, for the agentic AI, you already, you know, have something that makes your work easier and, you know, faster. How you can make it even faster? You go to a repository and download your skills. What are AI skills? Basically, they are just instructions, pre-built instructions to your agentic AI, very basic text files that contain instructions to your agentic AI that can execute for you. So you go to a repository and, you know, you find a new skill that monitors for you, the weather forecast for the next three hours, up to 24 hours, every hour. and then alerts you in case there is some, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:10 some sign of bad weather coming in, kicking in or whatever. I'm just, you know, giving you an example, a very basic example. You could do that yourself, but you also, you can also easily instruct using a GEN-TKI to do the stuff for you. And why not downloading an AI skill that already contains all this structure to do that for you? So companies are looking into digital. new world more and more. And the problem is that there is no, there's no way right now to
Starting point is 00:19:44 vouch the skills that you are downloading. That's probably the biggest risk that the companies are missing the people using AI companies are risking more. So they think that, you know, you can monitor downloads from specific websites. You have a firewall, you have whatever, your monitoring, fishing websites. But you're still not considering that AI skills, repositories can be a vector to introduce malware. So AI skills are just, you know, text files that can be used on your AI desktop software. You are not considering, you're still, companies are not still considering that as a vector.
Starting point is 00:20:29 So we urgently need that company. get attention to this and start vouching also the AI skills that are being downloaded from repositories because that's not anymore free and safe, secure world. Just to give you a basic example, one of the skills that we, AI skills that we detected, malicious AI skills, and that's outside of the research that we are discussing right now. just telling you this story. One of the AI skills, the malicious AI skills that we detected was very funny because you downloaded it and you also started looking at the text file inside the skills and it was
Starting point is 00:21:18 a perfectly legitimate skill. So we started looking into this because we got some our automated systems reported this this skill as potentially malicious. So we started to manually look at the AI skill, my team, and look at that and say, in the beginning, the text was completely safe, just, you know, very, very, very safe instructions. They were doing what the AI skill was supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:21:48 And so, you know, even for the basic people, the basic user that wants to check what the AI skill is doing, that would have bypassed the energy, every kind of simple, you know, a simple check. At some point, at the very, very, very end of the text of the skill, there was one command telling the AI to completely forget what was being said since the beginning of the text file and execute what was going to happen, what was written after that. And everything was written in non-English language. I don't remember if it was Chinese or
Starting point is 00:22:28 or Russian and or anyway, it was some, you know, or Japanese. I don't remember exactly what language was that. And, you know, that was going to bypass every simple check from every customer, every user, average user looking at that. So, sorry, that was a very long description to tell you that this is incredibly risky work right now that we need to immediately take action on. Our thanks to Marco Giuliani from Threatdown for joining us. The research is titled Gachi Loader adopts AI Skill Lure.
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